Rangers Banter Archive August 23 2020

 

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23 Aug 2020 22:44:44
Hers my opinion on our supposedly 3 most sellable assets at the moment:

Morelos - He must go now and as soon as possible. Morelos has been a great Rangers player for the most part and scored a lot of goals. Even after his poor form since Christmas until the end of last season I was very much a big fan and definitely wanted to keep him but after seeing him in pre-season and the way he has conducted himself recently I think it is time to go. I think he has made a decent start to the new league season with 2 goals and 2 assists but it is clear he wants to go and we just need to maximise what we get for him now. I can only imagine what figures we would be talking about for him if he had had a good second half to last season. Definitely 20m plus. Thanks for all your efforts Alfie but its time to cash in thanks very much.

Borna Barasic - What a player. To think a lot of people had written him off, including the manager btw. I remember he was consistently getting injured in his first season and the gaffer even called out his injury record and attitude in a live press conference. He has turned out to be an outstanding player who I think this season will be invaluable to us in trying to stop 9.75 in a row. He is going to be 28 this season and realistically next summer will be the last chance we get to receive big money for him. Selling a player in his age 29 season means that the purchasing team will not have any chance of making a profit when they sell so they would be buying for immediate impact. Sell next summer if at all would be my opinion and 15m next summer for an age 29 season player would be good business, If Borna wants to stay though I'd say keep him even past next season.

Ryan Kent - A very talented player with lots of drive and determination. Loads of people have even suggested he tries too hard. I don't buy this rubbish about his assist record. I'm not actually arguing with the stats, they are what they are but they certainly don't tell anywhere near the full story. There was an interview I read last season with Borna Barisic old manager at Osijek who explained that Rangers were not seeing the best of Borna because they were not playing to his strengths and that without the winger in front of him cutting in he has no space to get into to position to cross and create chances. Since Ryan Kent and Borna have found a bit of understanding it is frightening how often Kents tendency to cut in has created space for Borna and the ball to Borna to then supply the assist is often played by Ryan Kent. He is sometimes inconsistent but can create that bit of magic even when he is having a quiet or poor game. I absolutely don't want him to go this season but 20m and I say sell him. I just don't think we could turn down that amount of money and would be confident that our new scouting netwok would have plenty of names ready for us to go for if he was sold for that amount of cash.

In summary its basically let Morelos go and keep the other 2 if we can but at the end of the day everyone has a price and there is also a responsibility on the boards behalf to run the financial side of things prudently. If suitable offers come in we could see all 3 go and if the finances are right then you won't hear me moaning. I am realistic about things and understand the importance of balancing our books. We can't spend what we don't have.



23 Aug 2020 23:27:33
First time poster

Just got a text from a work colleague at the airport Morelos just off an easyjet steaming had to be helped down the stairs forgot his bag and passport. His value is just going to keep going down way actions like this as he won’t get back in the team.



23 Aug 2020 23:40:17
Did ye aye? . 💩.



24 Aug 2020 06:46:38
Agree with borna. keep this season offload next bring in still sizeable fee for him.



24 Aug 2020 07:50:55
Yep a lot of rangers fans wanted rid of barasic and now they have went all quiet it’s funny that.



24 Aug 2020 08:31:46
I don't think there was many that wanted rid of barasic to be fair. I think most knew that there was a player there as most agreed that you don't play for croatia if you are not any good. Most questioned whether he had the mentality for the roughness of scottish football. 👍.



24 Aug 2020 09:05:16
Is that you talking nonsense on another subject now Mr Thumbs Up?
You’re getting worse than Celtic fans at trying to rewrite history!
Barisic was vilified by the majority on here as not being good enough!
Just like you vilified Aribo last season as not being good enough to play for Rangers.



24 Aug 2020 09:41:47
I don't think aribo will fit in to a team with 2 cm if gerrard goes with 2 up top. Maybe in a 352. Aribo doesn't move it quick enough. Slows the tempo. I have my doubts👍.



24 Aug 2020 10:10:51
short memories Coldo, a lot of people wanted rid during his first year. doesn't have the bottle, always getting injured etc. Same as Morelos, i am sure you are gloating that he is off the boil and gives you satisfaction that he is so you can say told you so. I never want any rangers players to fail, i want every player to be the next sell-able asset to our club and to maximise the RTI.

Some fans hound our players out. OK so i doubt many players read what's written on here but i can assure you that the media do. they then turn 2 or 3 comments and claim the majority of fans want rid.

Maybe try showing a bit of respect and a bit of faith in our players and in turn we might yet reap the reward we deserve.



24 Aug 2020 10:11:52
Aribo will play ahead of Davis and kamara this season.
3-5-2 seems to be someone's next obsession 🤔
Rangers won't play 3-5-2 that often if at all this season.
Why would we play 3 CH's when the majority of teams play against us with one striker?



24 Aug 2020 10:37:26
Why do we play 1 St when teams play a back 10 against us🤔. We need to play two up top. 442 aribo doesn't play. 352 aribo plays. Davis showed the other day how to play in a 442 2nd half. Aribo doesn't have that in his locker, wants too much time on the ball. 👍.



24 Aug 2020 11:02:22
We didn't play 4-4-2 2nd half!
You seem to be getting fixated on formations 😉
Fit, aribo will be one of the first names on the teamsheet.



24 Aug 2020 11:21:17
But we did grumpy😉👍.



24 Aug 2020 12:03:25
But we didn't coldo lol.



23 Aug 2020 22:15:31
As its looking likely that Morelos and Kent on their way but would like to bring in 3 players
Ivan toney Peterborough
mijo caktas hajduk split
Jeremy boga sassuolo.



23 Aug 2020 22:31:20
Did Brentford not bid 10 million for Ivan Toney ?



23 Aug 2020 22:46:32
Boga we have no chance would cost way to much.



23 Aug 2020 23:29:59
well if Morelos and kent sold for 34 million, 10 million for toney, 15 million for boga and 4 million caktas and could probably add lundstrum as well 2 out and 4 quality players in. boga would be hard to get but if we want league need quality and these players be good for Europe too.



24 Aug 2020 00:34:58
Jazzy. but the buckie doon pal amdnget realistic.



24 Aug 2020 03:44:56
Boga being quoted at 35m to Everton. Nae chance he becomes a Ranger.



24 Aug 2020 04:10:18
It’s the wages not even the fee mate.



24 Aug 2020 06:39:42
Jazzy, we'd owe 10% sell on fee for Morelos and 20% for Kent.
We could reinvest in the squad but not those players. We would have to put some profit into the running of the club and try to bring in similar quality at a reasonable price.
£10m for Toney isn't reasonable for a League 1 striker.
Dont know anything about the other 2 players but, i think we need to be more realistc with targets.



24 Aug 2020 06:48:02
if we took in 30 odd mill balance books would likely be 1st not go spend another 25 mill on top of the 10 already.



24 Aug 2020 08:20:58
If u sell Morelos and Kent just say for 30million doesn’t mean u get to spend all that 30million.



{Ed001's Note - for starters 5% of the transfer fees will go to the players involved unless they hand in a written transfer request. 5% further goes to either UEFA or FIFA (I forget which it is). So that is already £3m gone before agents, solicitors, bank charges etc begin to eat into it. Added to that, you won't get all the money in one go either, it will be a series of payments.}

23 Aug 2020 21:01:51
I know it's very early days, but Itten reminds me of Erik Bo Anderson! Hopefully he will improve, but has to be soon. Roofe (Roffe? ) looks to be getting up to speed, and luckily, we can afford to put them in the team against the utter garbage sides we are up against at the moment.
Any thoughts on this, guys?



23 Aug 2020 21:19:31
Itten will come good. he's raw and learning how we play. he's showed bits and will be a playee but i don't see 20 plus striker there. hope i'm wrong.



23 Aug 2020 21:35:49
I’m thinking that it takes a bit more than 2 or 3 games to make any kind of valid assessment of a new player.



23 Aug 2020 21:48:58
Exactly dk19.



23 Aug 2020 22:18:30
Recall Bo Anderson scoring brace against Celtic.



23 Aug 2020 22:34:29
I am 50/ 50 on him but need to give him time to settle.



23 Aug 2020 23:38:31
Itten will be a great signing for us. Give him a wee bit to get used to team and Scottish football, this lad will score 25 a season.
Morelos has probably played his last game for us. A shame really but he's not committed.
If Leeds offer 16.5m it will trigger a clause in Kenya contract, although 50k a week is nice, his girlfriend is at uni here and they are settled, so it will come down to the lad.
Might be a way back for JJ if Kent goes.



24 Aug 2020 08:57:49
Pdot, well we just gubbed one garbage side and I'm fae Killie. They played 9 men behind ba even when two doon and showed their class. Plus we did nae play buffalo who's probs packing his bags anyway and good riddance because we showed we don't need such unprofessional losers.



23 Aug 2020 20:32:07
Does anyone else agree with me that SKY must be wondering why they invested money into the spl I have never seen such rubbish football on the television in all my life . If it's a Rangers or Celtic game park the bus 🚌, if it's not the standard of the game is absolutely embarrassing.



23 Aug 2020 20:57:37
Sheep v st Johnstone other night was cringeworthy totally embarrassing standard.



23 Aug 2020 19:20:34
Question chaps, some posters saying we won't win the league if Kent, Barasic and Morelos are sold. Now if they were sold for say 45 million, surely that would be a healthy budget for Gerrard .



23 Aug 2020 19:48:26
I would sell Kent and Morelos for £35m but we need Barasic for this season.



23 Aug 2020 19:49:21
Crazy post if you sell these players you need to replace them with like for like which would cost around the same fee or go with untried players who have to come here settle in and maybe not suit our game we should be keeping all our best players and add one or two especially this season.



23 Aug 2020 20:26:27
Dream land if u think he would get 45 mill to spend. That would be crazy esp with the gaffers sucess rate signing wise.



23 Aug 2020 20:39:45
Certainly not a crazy post. It's a very realistic statement. If all 3 are sold then that's a healthy budget. Maybe unearth some more gems, Morelos- 1 million etc. Maybe have change, balance the books, money in the bank.



23 Aug 2020 20:40:56
Dk19! You would sell Kent the best player creative player we have? Tell me who you would replace him with?



23 Aug 2020 21:33:33
Morelos will be gone soon but selling Kent and Barasic would be crazy, what’s the point in having x amount of millions in the bank and have to start looking for replacements a s a p then the time it would take to blend in and by that time smeltic would be on their way to number 10, surely winning the league is the most important thing.



23 Aug 2020 21:38:26
Delano, Kent did nothing last season. So far he’s had a couple of decent performances this season but nothing to get overly exited about.

No doubt he’s a talented lad but for £15m we could bring in a couple of strong players.



23 Aug 2020 21:40:08
It takes time to build a team if we sell our best players now we will be starting from scratch again as it could take new players months to settle in and realise the challenge of having to win every game. I believe if we are to have a chance we can only sell 1 probably Morelos the rest must stay and add 1 or 2 more with the money.



23 Aug 2020 21:52:27
Section red, I'd also keep Barasic and Kent but who knows what the board are thinking.



23 Aug 2020 22:10:15
The Stuck
Do you want money in the bank or win the league,? there is only 1 player to go and it must be AM. despite his goals which our new strikers would put away he won’t be missed.



23 Aug 2020 22:16:15
I'd certainly want to win the league and being financially stable.



23 Aug 2020 22:27:28
We’d demand £20m for borna, Kent might be off for £15-£17, and buff will be away for £16+ if we get offered that again there’s £53m. The difference with replacing like for like is we can’t afford the wages of a player who costs those amounts. If we lose all 3 the title will not happen, keeping bb is a must imo and I think settling in a replacement for Kent regardless of quality is playing a dangerous game in such an important season. I’d offer him £30k a week and a £1m loyalty bonus if he stays TIL at least next year and we get £15m+ for him? I think bb is happy to stay as he's guaranteed to be first choice for Croatia next summer while he’s playing with us, if he leaves he might struggle to settle and lose he’s place 🇬🇧.



23 Aug 2020 23:11:24
The Stuck - I’m afraid you can’t have both we are trying to win a league back from a team who have had years of Champions League money they have a far bigger squad than we have more strength in depth look at our bench we don’t have players to change games we need to strengthen so if you sell your better players you start again from a weaker position, we need to gamble here spend a bit more in the hope we can win that league, I think Morelos will go I’m a big fan when he’s on form but he wants out so I’m ok with that but Kent is starting to show a bit that has taken a season since his transfer Barasic has taken longer, if we sell these guys and take a gamble again the league could be over by Christmas this is the first time in years we have had player teams want that tells you we have started building a decent team but we’re not there yet I’m no manager but I’d say we need two quality players certainly a box to box midfielder and probably a right sided player so for me yes sell Alphie but unless it’s crazy money then it’s a big no for Barisic and Kent.



24 Aug 2020 06:32:16
You might find if Kent goes then Barasic may think, I'm ofski now as well.



24 Aug 2020 08:43:23
Keep trying to destroy our team guys, the Board and SG will decide if and when any player leaves, the only one likely to go is Morelos, if anybody will buy him, he isn't doing his CV any good at present. Why can't we just enjoy being top of the league just now. I agree that we need a strong attacking midfielder, and another winger.



24 Aug 2020 10:24:36
sell one high value asset each year, similar to celtic. however then our ambition will be what celtics is too, do enough to win league and anything else is a bonus. if that's what we want then fine.



23 Aug 2020 19:10:19
I would like to see us try a back 3 at some point, maybe in league Cup.

MCLAUGHLIN


GOLDSON BALAGOUN HELANDER

TAV ARIBO JACK KENT BARASIC

HAGI

ROOFE.



23 Aug 2020 19:39:06
Run it past Mr Thumbs Up first. He'll then decide if Gerrard should give it a go or not. 👍😂👀.



23 Aug 2020 20:13:02
😂😂😂.



23 Aug 2020 20:20:24
Helander is too slow to play in a bk 3.



23 Aug 2020 20:23:42
No chance as it’s a great opportunity to play youngsters like Paterson etc. and he needs to play right back.



23 Aug 2020 20:25:22
For me hagi doesn't make our best 11 with new signings coming in.



23 Aug 2020 21:16:42
352 is a no brainer👍.



23 Aug 2020 21:37:31
Why would we play a back 3 witch is effectively a back 5 as tav and Barisic are defenders we dominate games so there’s no need for 3 CBs we need more creativity going forward not more defenders on the pitch if you’re trying to accommodate Balogun then pick a CB to drop I think he’s probably our best CB and would drop helander.



23 Aug 2020 21:54:40
Yup I agree with you highlandbear81.
It's a no brained alright.



23 Aug 2020 21:59:38
brainer😉.



23 Aug 2020 22:35:53
3-5-2 in league cup I would try or even at home to lesser teams. We need to be adaptable. And give others a game.

Shagger/ Jono

Goldson fridge Bassey

Patterson Jack Kamara Borna

Hagi

Itten. Defoe.



23 Aug 2020 18:33:03
Hibs only won by a last minute penalty. Celtic only won in the 83 rd minute. We seem to be comfortable except v Livingston. We're doing well so far. Our defence v a Celtic attack looks to be great. We're not conceding and they're not very good so far at scoring. We're 4 goals in front. None against us, same as Hibs and Celtic. I believe we'll win this year and not come off top spot.

Alfie has to go. Take 16million and invest it. Kent's going nowhere. His choice. He's too close to Stevie. Itten and (roffe) will start again next week. I think it'll come out soon that we've offloaded buff. There can be no distractions this season. Tav and the lads have to take the pressure and learn to be winners. A winner takes everything that's thrown at him and rises to the top. If we lose this year, Gerrard's done, as is his favourites. But I don't think so. We'll win by 4 points. Bets are on.



23 Aug 2020 20:24:57
Kent will go if leeds meet valuation no matter how close he is to SG he will at least double his wages.



23 Aug 2020 21:56:50
Or Kent might choose to stay, have a good season and sign with a top 6 club down in England next season?



23 Aug 2020 22:32:12
Kja9 you got a right bee in your bonnet about Kent, every chance to be negative about him you’re in there like a ferret.



23 Aug 2020 22:39:02
Someone said on this site earlier Kent missus is in the middle of a uni degree in Glasgow, if they are solid enough it might be enough to persuade him to stay 1 more year and if we win league he would have champs league. Plenty time to go to epl and make the big ££££.



23 Aug 2020 17:55:19
It would be a great bit of business if we could sign Atletico's young winger Riquelme and let Kent go for upwards of £15m.



23 Aug 2020 18:48:50
I want kent here at rangers hbear simple as that for me!



23 Aug 2020 19:20:40
That Atletico lad Riquelme is some player. I thought he was a free this summer. If he is we should definitely throw our hat in the ring for him and keep Kent as well. I went to the Rangers v Atletico youth game last season and Riquelme tore Nathan Patterson a new one to be honest lol.



23 Aug 2020 19:28:53
At the end of the day Riquelme is still a young kid and will blow hot and cold in men's football as most kids do. We need pros who know how to win.



23 Aug 2020 20:25:44
The convenanter Kent blows hot and cold so your point is utter BS.



23 Aug 2020 20:58:14
All wingers blow hot and cold. They rely on other players providing them the possession. Even the late, great Davie Cooper had the odd bad game. Thecovenanter, doesn't matter that Riquelme is still a young lad. He would be free and we would sell for big money in 2-3 seasons. No matter what anyone says, that is the only way our club can function financially. Buy potential and sell for profit. Enjoy these players ie Morelos, Kent, Barisic and even Aribo who will be the next linked with a big money transfer whilst we have them.



23 Aug 2020 21:26:01
Well written post MOCBear 👌 Totally agree with you mate!



24 Aug 2020 05:27:58
MOCBear spot on Sir 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇦🇺⚽️😎👍.



23 Aug 2020 17:00:17
Amazing watching the other teams in our league play each other. Midfielders that cross the halfway line, centre halves at the centre circle and strikers in the opposition's box. Surely it'll not catch on?



23 Aug 2020 17:07:56
Teams have played that way against us and celtic for decades and we have won plenty titles before👍.



23 Aug 2020 16:32:56
Don't know if anybody has mentioned it but how bad was Clancy on Saturday? Constantly blew up for the slightest of things in an effort to break up play and booked big Itten for getting into a 50 50 tangle of legs. Shocking game he had. Also, how much of a tosser is big Clubfoot? Usually creaming anything that moves but goes down like a wet lettuce when somebody brushes against him. Absolute clown.



23 Aug 2020 16:44:17
Seeker, yip, agree with you sir. Clancy did have a poor game which was very noticeable. Is he a Celtic man by any chance ?



23 Aug 2020 16:59:41
He made one bad decision in giving itten a yellow card other than that done nothing wrong.



23 Aug 2020 17:09:48
That’s a yellow too many KJA 😜.



23 Aug 2020 17:19:50
He constantly hounded Itten. Clancy is a wet wipe and also a Celtic fan. We should have refs with no affiliation to any club in that league. I once recall sumhin abt getting foreign refs in for our games. Wouldn’t be a bad idea.



23 Aug 2020 17:34:37
I must have been watching another game. But no doubt you'll be right 😂.



23 Aug 2020 17:36:22
You must have been watching the same game as me Stuck 👍.



23 Aug 2020 18:31:23
I was watching the same game as you seeker, clancy was rotten👍.



23 Aug 2020 18:31:59
I actually made the same comment to my Son after the game, and we both thought he did stop the game a lot unnecessarily for stupid fouls, it's amazing just how much that can knock a team off their stride, he wasn't awful though by any means.



23 Aug 2020 19:35:49
Clancy was brutal. He made one major decision and got it wrong. He never allowed the play to flow, never played the advantage, always blew for the infringement. He knew what he was doing, of course, and in the second half when we were battering them he blew seven times in 3 minutes for trivia.



23 Aug 2020 19:43:30
Clancy was terrible. I don't think he's biased. Just that the standard of referees in Scotland are poor to be honest.



23 Aug 2020 20:57:43
Wasn't just me then guys! I really did think he was very poor. Wasn't prepared to let the game flow imho.



24 Aug 2020 05:34:59
You are correct Seeker any opportunity Clancy got he stopped play. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇦🇺⚽️😎👍.



23 Aug 2020 15:07:08
WE have come a long way in a short period of time fellow bears. From Lower Divisions, warburton and pedro --to steven gerard and a first rate coaching staff and players valued at 10 to 20 million pounds that include-kent, morelos, barisic, aribo, --and let's not forget our stadium that is looking top class no Ashley and a new deal with castore and 32 red Megastore jumpin everyday heavens things ain't that bad folks get behind your team as i'm pretty sure things can only get much much better .



23 Aug 2020 15:48:32
All those things are great decee but unfortuately if the team isn't doing great on the park then that's the big issue for fans. The last two seasons have not been great on the park. The positives this year are that we do look more solid at the back and that gerrard looks as though he is going to go with two up top🤞, so that's encouraging. I am glad that ibrox is not called the sports direct arena or we have their logo everywhere. Its great for our club that Ashley is gone and that we have a board that care about the club. We have a coaching structure that can only be good for the club. let's hope it brings success on the park👍.



23 Aug 2020 15:59:13
Agree coldo and thanks yes we all know the bottom line that's trophy's especially #55 on a corporate level we are strong --the trophy's will come .



23 Aug 2020 16:26:12
Lets hope so decee👍.



23 Aug 2020 18:35:21
We are top of the league in case some of the doubters haven't noticed, with no goals lost in 5 league games plus 3 pre-season friendlies, c'mon guys for goodness sake a bit of positivity, they win 1-0 yesterday and Lennon is praising them to the heavens as are their fans, take a leaf fellow bears.



23 Aug 2020 19:52:30
He's not playing a 442!



23 Aug 2020 14:17:06
A think if Rangers have any chance of winning the league Kent is a must stay, he's just going to get better by game if he continues the way he's playing he's worth double of the 14million of which Leeds have valued him at! Rangers should accept the next bid for Morelos even if it is 17 mil or so, we could seriously strengthen the first 11 with half of that money a right winger and a box to box midfielder a would maybe even buy 2 wingers, a know barker has been ok but am not entirely convinced he is the answer to be in the first 11.



23 Aug 2020 14:48:51
Good to see that he can go about his business professionally even when there's so much speculation about him.

Unlike some.



23 Aug 2020 15:05:38
Deano, Barker can be very decent, signs of this was when he was at Hibs and yesterday he played well. I think he's just short of confidence. I think he'll come good.



23 Aug 2020 15:10:31
I would definitely keep Barker, one disappointment for me yesterday was Stewart coming on and not Jamie Murphy, we all know Stewarts capabilities, Murphy deserved a wee run I thought. AS for Alfie, I'm sick of the whole situation, his agent is a twit, and he will ruin Alfie's life, but that's his decision.



23 Aug 2020 15:10:46
Kent is class. Itten and roofe up top together will be a game changer for us. The difference in our play with two up top instead of one is night and day. I hope gerrard learns that two up top is the answer👍.



23 Aug 2020 15:44:13
Who else could we bring in to strengthen the starting 11? A still feel we need 2 maybe 3 players.



23 Aug 2020 15:46:20
The stuck a definitely think we should keep barker am just not sure whether he’s the answer to get us 10/ 15 goals and assists we really need every player to chip in with goals this season but a really hope barker keeps it up.



23 Aug 2020 16:05:48
What was the difference with 2 up top Mr Thumbs Up?
In every game this season we've played teams of the park whether it's been 4-3-3, 4-4-2, 4-3-2-1 etc.
We win yesterday but we also won 3 out of 4 before that.
Are you now saying we are going to win every game this season because we are playing 2 up top? 😂.



23 Aug 2020 16:13:13
The way we play is pretty fluid. It's not a rigid 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, or even 4-4-2👍
Every season the club has improved on and off the field.



23 Aug 2020 16:30:18
We play teams off the park but we create very little chances with 433 bluebell, but with 2 up top we play better and we break down park the bus. Don't you have eye's bluebell? We won't win every game, who said that? We will win more games with two up top than we will with 433👍.



23 Aug 2020 18:15:34
If Morelos goes for decent money £15m + I’d like to see a Right winger like Olson, creative midfielder like lovro majer and a penalty box striker like maybe a Charlie Austin these guys or someone of their ilk would really have me buzzing for the season.



23 Aug 2020 19:55:01
Grumpy somebody should tell thumbs up that roofe doesn't play as a striker!



23 Aug 2020 12:48:37
Hi guys,
Just wanted to say my piece about how things are going.
I am not an enternal optimist with blue tinted specs but unlike many on here I do not feel we are doomed and going nowhere.

Are we the finished article - not by a long shot but we have improved.

Last season we lost poor goals and were a bit ropey at the back. It cannot be understated how much better we look at the back. I feel that we are looking much stronger in that area. Killie have previously caused us loads of issues but we handled them well.

People shouting that Stevie G has n plan B but he has used 3 differing formations this season already.

Yesterdays game saw some good changes. Willingness to shoot from distance (Barker, Davis, Kent) meant Killie couldn't stay too deep. Itten being a target made us unpredictable.

We still need someone out on Right I feel and a Deep lying mid IMO but we are not that far off.

I just wish we had someone who had been through a winning season in recent years.

I know it's a stretch but I would like us to bring in someone like Uruguyan Martin Caceres. I know we have CB's but he can also cover RB and CDM. Has won a league 5-6 years in a row with Juve and is an animal.



23 Aug 2020 15:07:58
Going two up top is a game changer for us. 2nd half was much better when we went two through the middle👍.



23 Aug 2020 15:59:07
Coldo we had 2 thru the middle in the 1st half 🤡.



23 Aug 2020 16:06:17
2 up top = nonsense.



23 Aug 2020 17:38:06
Coldo's right. We definitely changed it up in the second half.



23 Aug 2020 18:39:30
Seeker we played 2 up from the start.



23 Aug 2020 19:12:10
Which game were you watching?



23 Aug 2020 19:55:54
we didn't set up in a 442.



23 Aug 2020 12:02:40
Turnbull at Motherwell back playing well after injury- Could do a turn for us if we snap him up before the Celtic.



23 Aug 2020 16:36:25
Really? What has he got that we need?



23 Aug 2020 22:32:14
Nothing!



23 Aug 2020 23:52:02
Cracking player when fit and on his game, could be the quality back up to Aribo we will need when Aribo is missing good scoring record and loves a goal from outside the box which is something we are missing. Would eventually replace Aribo when he inevitably goes to epl. Pity he’s a Tim and will go to them. Great young player and also rate young Campbell beside him.



23 Aug 2020 12:00:40
If as seems likely Leeds meet valuation on Kent as in his contract who out there do rangers target. I think it has to be someone experienced as opposed to a young guy loaned around. I'm hoping Kent decides he wants to stay I think it's only way we can keep him at the club.



23 Aug 2020 12:46:36
Was reading this morning Onewaltersmith, that leeds utd are not taking no for an answer regarding ryan kent. Its reporting they will submit a £14million bid + add ons for kent this week. I still don't think that will be enough to get kent from rangers! I think somewhere between £15million-£20million will get rangers interested, but personally I hope we don't sell kent, as imo he's our best player, although money 💰 does talk and i suppose every player is for sale 😞I think if kent is sold our chances of winning the league for me, greatly diminishes 😞Leeds are going to offer kent double his 25k a week, that he's allegedly on at rangers just now 🤔.



23 Aug 2020 12:57:21
We don’t need to sell Kent, simples! He’s found a home at ibrox after several loans. He stated prior to signing he wanted to settle somewhere for stability.



23 Aug 2020 12:59:40
I also agree onewaltersmith, that it maybe our only chance of keeping kent, if he actually decides himself,
he prefers to stay at rangers for now 🙏 Because i do think leeds will keep pursuing kent, until they eventually meet his valuation 😞.



23 Aug 2020 14:04:15
I think we need him but doubling wages to 50k might persuade him to go if he feels Rangers will be getting a good deal aswell. I agree our only hope of keeping him is whether it is his wish to stay at least for one more crack at the title before going. He definitely was looking to settle somewhere and if he goes to Leeds and is unsuccessful he will end up going down the journeyman route again.



23 Aug 2020 14:32:18
If rangers sell Kent for say 15mil and Liverpool having a 20% clause then what was the point in getting Kent? A wouldn’t accept anything less than 25mil and yet a still don’t want him to leave.



23 Aug 2020 16:38:41
Onewaltersmith, how on earth do you know there is a selling price in his contract? Have you been looking at Football Manager?



23 Aug 2020 17:04:15
Deano it would not be 20% of the 15 million it would be 20% of profit of the deal is unbelievable the amount of fans that don’t know this.



23 Aug 2020 17:11:02
Steven Gerrard commented on this yest by saying every player has things written in their contracts plus if you read good sources on the know they say same. Don't Bury your head in the sand just because the words not said doesn't mean people can't read between the lines.



23 Aug 2020 17:44:13
You're wrong KJ, it depends on how the contract is drawn up. Can easily be a straight 20% of any future fee. 👍.



23 Aug 2020 18:36:09
Seeker if that is the case Wilson should be sacked.
We r not that inept.



23 Aug 2020 11:05:16
Watched a couple of minutes of the Dundee utd game yesterday, big difference from us is the opposition were taking regular pot shots from outside the box?
Why? don't we do that more often, we cannot score the perfect goal all the time.



23 Aug 2020 11:29:17
We did yesterday Kent, barker and jack all had decent shots from outside the box and if it wasn’t for a good save Kent would have scored just before half time.



23 Aug 2020 11:53:24
That has been our issue bar72, trying to walk it in. At HT yesterday we changed it and went with itten and roofe through the middle and we were much better. Our cm's and wide players had much more space to create. Long may it continue. 👍.



23 Aug 2020 12:48:06
Coldo I have been saying for god knows how long. That we don’t have enough shots from outside the box, 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇦🇺⚽️😎👍.



23 Aug 2020 13:00:05
I must have seen a different result from you Bar72 because I thought Celtic only won 1 - 0🤔
Unless you get additional goals now for the more shots you take from outside the box🤔
They’ve currently dropped the same amount of points as us and you’re creaming your pants over how well they are playing 🤔🤪😂.



23 Aug 2020 14:27:30
This season we have been hitting shots from outside the box.



23 Aug 2020 15:14:18
Deemc22. I’m not saying that we haven’t been having a go from outside the box, But not enough, As coldo stated we are still trying to walk the ball into the goals. As youngster and through to adulthood was always told have a go, Scored many a screamer, 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇦🇺⚽️😎👍.



23 Aug 2020 15:17:10
Rangers had more shots on goal and on target than Celtic, so, we did change things from previous games. I am a strong advocate for more shooting from outside the box, and stated so in a post last week, keep it going Gers, no goals conceded is also a major factor for me.



23 Aug 2020 15:22:50
BB72, hardly creaming my pants, stating the bleeding obvious, the Dun utd keeper apparently had at least half a dozen worldies and they hit the post.
An opinion doesn't need shot down kiddo.



23 Aug 2020 16:44:43
Simple coaching instructions for kids upwards: The nearer you are to the goal, the better chance you have of scoring. Long shots are a lottery as this poster proved, defeating his own argument. They scored one goal. Long shots are easier for the keeper to see and react to, and most of them end up a goal kick, thus relinquishing possession. Shooting from distance is a tactic that should be used sparingly and only if you have proper sight of the target.



23 Aug 2020 10:30:18
This was a wee reply a put on last night for krii55 Not sure he seen it as it's a few pages down now

But regarding Goldson and tav
This is my thoughts on them both

I've never said anything bad about tav or Goldson

Apart from maybe having a go if they have had a bad game And even then it must be very minimal

Goldson all round has been a Very steady player and so has tav

Alright some defensive errors from them both over time
But to be honest both of them are very professional
They barely miss a game and they play week in week out

If anything I admire them both for the hard work they must put in - in training and on the pitch

I know tav is not really a captain in such as the likes of captains of the past
But he's definitely a role model to young and old players alike
Him and Goldson obviously keep themselves in very good shape to play as much as they both do over the amount of time they have been at Rangers
And I don't think anyone could disagree with that KRi55

Might not be everyone's cup of tea

But solid solid professionals and have my sincere gratitude for the service there giving Rangers since there time here mate -

Like I say both had mishaps and we're all human
And we will come and have a go

But overall very professional guys - hats off to them both

Just would like to see a good settle team - and just get back to scoring goals and playing well like first half of last season

Think and hope we might get there soon enough

I just get frustrated too easily KRi55

And come when I'm raging At the result

But when I calm and collective like tonight 😂

I can also praise the players and manger too mate

All part of Rangers and Growing up in the fishbowl of glasgow

Doesn't help my mates are from the dark side and there stupid texts come in when there winning titles etc

Grrrrrrrr 😂😂😂.



23 Aug 2020 11:09:53
Morning Stig mate.

Cheers for the reply, its good to be able to have a good healthy debate on all things rangers. We won't always agree bt I've got respect for you n your opinion.
Unlike some others you have views on both good and bad point and you don't just sit on here n slate players.

Tav and goldons are only one mistake away from a villifying from our fans, some players get a free ride tho, jack caused Celtics goal last year, he cost us a goal v Porto also but not once was he called out.

McGregor has states many times the CG is the best CH and communicator at the club. And yes Tav isn't a traditional captain but by all accounts he's the driving force behind the team, when he goes we will see we miss him. Defensively he can improve but with how we play he is perfect for it, attacking wise.

I get frustrated too mate but some folk on here are just so negative n they will jump on players for mistakes or that but will, never pass praise on when the players do well.
That for me is infuriating.



23 Aug 2020 16:11:13
Can you confirm Stig if you have still given up for the season ( you previously chucked the league on the 17th )?
Or are you back on board and taking the season one game at a time? 😂.



23 Aug 2020 10:05:13
Ooops, I'm a bit late with that 1. LOL.



23 Aug 2020 09:30:49
I've said it before and I will say it again, Connor Goldson is the most underrated, unappreciated player at Rangers right now. He has arguably been our best player so far this season. His passing out from the back is absolutely unbelievable. The problem is, he is one mistake from undoing all his good work in a lot of fans eyes. It amazes me that he is never in any chat about club captain. The man is a leader and I wish more of our fans would get right behind him. The Iron Curtain record wasn't broken by accident.

Hamilton step right up 🇬🇧✊🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿.



23 Aug 2020 09:42:48
He's looked very assured. Hopefully it continues.



23 Aug 2020 09:48:51
I totally agree. Was impressed by his press conference the other day, speaks really well. When we think back to some of the defenders we have had over the last 5/ 6 years, I do wonder why he gets so much stick. Just remember no long ago we had the likes of danny Wilson, Russell Martin and david bates haha.



23 Aug 2020 09:48:55
C of ibrox, said all along pal that connor goldson is rangers best centre half 👌 Been saying this since we signed the big man from brighton. If my memory serves me correct, did the Brighton fans not say it was an absolute steal, rangers getting him for £3million🤔 Superb communicator in our defence and a very good footballing centre half 👌.



23 Aug 2020 09:49:33
I agree big Goldson has been great.



23 Aug 2020 10:06:45
Goldson will be the next target. 10million.



23 Aug 2020 10:13:03
Let’s be honest though all 5 teams have offered next to nothing going forward and most haven’t even tried to attack. Can’t remember ever seeing 5 teams play so negatively against us in the opening 5 games.



23 Aug 2020 10:27:08
Goldson is really undervalued and not only that . touch wood always available for selection.



23 Aug 2020 10:31:12
AND he still reminds of Bambi on ice, when he plays on plastic.



23 Aug 2020 10:33:33
you sound like sutton the mutton, i suppose they all laid down to us, got to be the worst post today, oh and by the way i hit the agree button by mistake in case you think someone agrees with you.



23 Aug 2020 10:39:00
Yes in the league the teams Rangers have played have been very negative basically defence v attack.
Let’s not forget we also kept clean sheets in the friendly matches against Lyon and Nice which must not be underestimated.
Goldson has been superb since joining Rangers for £3m and he is a leader and along with Helander, Balogun, Edmundson and when Katic returns from injury we have great options in defence.
Keep up the good work 😀.



23 Aug 2020 12:23:15
Agree, Goldson is a good defender and does organise the defence well. Also agree he is captain material. We really are looking solid in the CD area, apart from Balogun pace does concern me as that is obviously how teams will try to hurt us, counter with the ball over the top when we are pushing forward but so far we have done brilliant in controlling the game.



23 Aug 2020 14:32:36
The stuck All teams will sit back and defend against us except celtic.



23 Aug 2020 14:40:19
Biff316 you say that Rangers haven’t been tested and teams play negative, a agree they play negative but they have don’t that for how long now think the reason why teams haven’t troubled us isn’t because there so negative it’s because rangers have been really good at breaking up play and keeping teams from taking shots, lot of people moan about tav Goldson etc but where’s the praise for them considering we haven’t conceded a goal in the league yet.



23 Aug 2020 17:07:04
SGL that is complete lies from you as you have never said that.

Also Goldson is nowhere near good enough the guy is utter dug crap.



23 Aug 2020 19:19:27
KJ, you just lost the plot with the Goldson barb. Keep taking your medication.



23 Aug 2020 08:50:23
@ HighlandBear,

Im sure Morelos has only scored 3 league goals in 2020, and 2 of them came last weekend!

I’m sure we can replace those goals easily! Problem is when he isn’t performing, we’re playing with a man shirt!



23 Aug 2020 09:20:35
3 goals in 2020 that's no hard to replace.



23 Aug 2020 08:28:12
I'd much rather sell Morelos than Kent. as sg said he wants hungry players who want to be here! In my opinion Kent is part of the team were building. Morelos made his intentions clear. I don't believe we turned down 16 million for Alfredo but I think we would accept that fee at this moment. I know their are guys on here say we have rejected this and that but reality is they are guessing.



23 Aug 2020 08:41:12
Bgate

We are saying we rejected it because rangers said so and the Lille chairman/ owner said we rejected you are basing it on a guess and we are basing it on what the people involved said why would rangers and Lille lie?



23 Aug 2020 08:44:09
You say people are guessing but so are you.



23 Aug 2020 09:01:14
Keep Kent, we don't even have a replacement. Morelos punt, Stewart punt, Jones punt, Murphy punt, Barker can stay for time being! bgate I'm sam3 as you if we got offered 16 million for Morelos he'll be punted 500k for Jones 250k for Stewart,500k for Murphy . so that bring in about 15 million after we pay Alfredo old team etc. then sign 3 Olsen for rw, a powerful box to box midfielder and maybe a right back . that would be a decent transfer lots of duds and uninterested out better quality in! What's not to like 😁😁.



23 Aug 2020 10:14:25
I don’t think Barker is the answer long term. I think he will have many more poor games than good ones.



23 Aug 2020 10:36:23
The problem we could have with the Leeds offer is the wages they can offer. Ryan Kent seems happy here but the money he could make with a move like this could turn his head.



23 Aug 2020 12:42:45
Ryan kent will go i believe, he's apparently going to double his wages to 50,000 a week and play in the premier league, its a no brainer, i wish him all the best as he always gives everything on the pitch . Jamie murphy will slot into his place in the meantime .



23 Aug 2020 14:45:00
Agree with you Kingwalter although maybe try and get more out of the transfer money. However if we do end up going 2 up front we may need another striker.



23 Aug 2020 07:00:06
I really think we should punt morales ASAP. yes he's done great for us but look at stevie's comments on his attitude he is not interested and does not want to be here what's your thoughts guys?



23 Aug 2020 07:23:35
While I agree his hearts not in it I don’t know where the goals will come from if he leaves I think definitely has had it, neither Itten or Roofe are out&out strikers and we already know our midfield aren’t chipping in enough.



23 Aug 2020 07:33:24
I cannot wait til Alfie goes so I don’t need to see or hear anyone call him Morales again :)



23 Aug 2020 07:47:44
What’s the rush? There ares still 6 weeks left in the window and most teams in the EPL have barely started their business.

We want £20m or we keep him - not difficult to understand. If we sell him cheap the usual moaners (who want rid of him) will moan about is selling our players cheaply.

£35m for Alf and Kent would do me so long as we have time to reinvest in strong replacements (wing and attacking mid and maybe another striker for competition)



23 Aug 2020 08:03:11
As regards where the goals will come from if he leaves, the answer is across the team, there has been too much reliance on one player. I get the feeling that he is not as popular with the other players now either because of his attitude, I said before, NO PLAYER is bigger than our Club.



23 Aug 2020 08:42:57
Highland bear I agree with you on that I know it’s only been a couple of games and I have been wrong before but itten to me won’t replace fredo if fredo is sold we need another striker.

Itten should nice touches yesterday had a couple of chances but am still 50/ 50 on him.



23 Aug 2020 15:53:14
KJA9 agreed mate, we’ll need an instinctive penalty box striker! I think Itten will be decent and i love it when our players prove me wrong but I can’t see him being a 20-25 goals a season man.



23 Aug 2020 00:54:29
All I will say is we aren't the finished article. But for the first time in many years a think man to man we are better. Christie or Kent =Kent jack or brown = Jack goldson or juilian = goldson barisic or taylor= barisic that's just a few but think about it this is the strongest our squad been in years we are the people.



23 Aug 2020 06:08:52
They will make a couple more signings mate, come the end of season Christie will have bagged a good number of goals for them also, if Kent’s numbers go like they have started then yeah maybe you will be correct. Aribo might have been the person to compare Christie with and Kent v Forrest or elyounoussi.



23 Aug 2020 07:49:24
Jack is not the finished article but Brown is slowing down.

I think until now (let’s see him this season) Brown is more important to the Celtic team that Jack is to ours.



23 Aug 2020 08:44:36
Man to man we are not better imho don’t care if I get dogs abuse for this and they have a stronger squad at the moment the reason they are still favs and we have bottled it the last two years after Xmas.



23 Aug 2020 12:48:23
When it comes to us and them and we go head to head on 4-2-3-1 its at the 3-1 up front they edge it for me. Christie, Forrest and Edouard very consistent last few seasons and scored sh*t loads of goals between them.
Hopefully this season our attacking players chip in with more goals when we are struggling to break teams down.



23 Aug 2020 16:04:08
I agree with you again KJA9 Mcgregor for them is better than jack or Kamara, brown is a bigger player for them maybe not better as in skill wise but he knows what it takes to win and motivates their team, if you think of how many of our players would walk into their team it’s probably only Barisic, Kent, Morelos on past form and maybe Aribo on current form.



 
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