Rangers Banter Archive April 23 2012

23 Apr 2012 23:44:17
If we did boycott away games can rangers sow tem at Ibrox on the big screen and we could watch tem there and put the money to get in into Rangers only

Wouldnt the home team need to agree ? And no doubt want paid for your cameras showing a gane at THEIR ground ?

What away games? What is ibrox? You lot are outa here! Ta ta

Are the Commonwealth mob not taking their screens back after the games ?

Paddy Malarkey

23 Apr 2012 23:40:51
its an escape route by the sfa to avoid point deductions next year...pr really, already agreed to by bidders, d&p etc...a smokescreen...they're good at it eh! they need us and they know it, economists know it, spl know it...we know it...lets take that punishment and fight next year...we'll be better for it! ace

Thats the spirit,keep your pecker up etc,etc.........green jhedi

What a stupid post!

The SFA cannot impose a point reduction...only the SPL.

And as for ths being a smokescreen, ffs, stop with the fantasy. This is real...this is also political...and this can be truly a game changer with potentially devastating implications.

Your deluded ya rocket!

23 Apr 2012 23:30:22
Disciplinary Proceedings Outcome
Monday, 23 April 2012


A Judicial Panel Tribunal convened to hear the cases against Rangers FC and Craig Whyte today concluded their findings and set out the following outcomes:

Name: Craig Whyte, Director, Rangers FC
Dates: 6th May 2011 to 6th March 2012
Disciplinary Rule(s) allegedly breached: Rules 66, 71 and 105

Outcomes:
The Tribunal found Craig Whyte guilty under Rule 66 and fined him £50,000.
The Tribunal returned a Not Proven verdict in respect of Rule 71.

The Tribunal found Craig Whyte guilty on three separate counts under Rule 105 and fined him £50,000 in respect of each breach.
The above sanctions shall be paid within 30 days, with interest of 4% per annum over the base lending rate of Bank of Scotland plc from the date of determination until paid.
Under Articles 94.1 and 95, the Tribunal expelled Craig Whyte for life from any participation in Association Football in Scotland.

Name: Rangers FC
Dates: 6th May 2011 to 6th March 2012
Disciplinary Rule(s) allegedly breached: Rules 1, 2, 14, 66, 71 and 325

Outcomes:
The Tribunal returned a verdict of Not Proven in respect of Rule 1.
The Tribunal found Rangers FC guilty in respect of Rule 2 and imposed the maximum fine of £10,000 payable within 12 months.
The Tribunal found Rangers FC guilty in respect of Rule 14 and imposed the maximum fine of £50,000 payable within 12 months
The Tribunal found Rangers FC guilty in respect of Rule 66 and imposed the maximum fine of £100,000 payable within 12 months. In addition, the Tribunal imposed a prohibition in terms of Article 94.1 and 95 of the Articles of Association, prohibiting Rangers FC for a period of 12 months from the date of determination from seeking registration with the Scottish FA of any player not currently with the club, excluding any player under the age of 18 years.
The Tribunal found Rangers FC guilty in respect of Rule 71 and imposed a censure.
The Tribunal found Rangers FC guilty of two breaches in respect of Rule 325 and imposed further censure.

Notes for Editors:
The Judicial Panel Tribunal shall issue a note of reasons in early course.
Both Rangers FC and Craig Whyte have a right of appeal against findings of guilt and any sanction imposed, within three days of receipt of note of reasons.
Explanatory Notes:

Rule 1 (b): All members shall:
(b) be subject to and comply with the Articles and any statutes, regulations, directives, codes, decisions and International Match Calendar promulgated by the Board, the Professional Game Board, the Non Professional Game Board, the Judicial Panel, a Committee or sub-committee, FIFA, UEFA or the Court of Arbitration for Sport;

Rule 2: Each member shall procure that its officials, its Team Staff and its players act in accordance with Rule 1.

Rule 14 (g): Full membership or associate membership may be suspended or terminated, or a fine may be issued, in any of the following circumstances:-

(g) where a full member or an associate member suffers or is subject to an insolvency event.

Rule 66: No recognised football body, club, official, Team Official or other member of Team Staff, player, referee, or other person under the jurisdiction of the Scottish FA shall bring the game into disrepute.
Rule 71: A recognised football body, club, official, Team Official, other member of Team Staff, player or other person under the jurisdiction of the Scottish FA shall, at all times, act in the best interests of Association Football and shall not act in any manner which is improper.
Rule 105: Any Party who is subject to a Direction from a Tribunal must follow that Direction as so Directed by the Tribunal. Any Party who fails to do so, may be found to be in breach of this rule.
Rule 325: Failing to pay to [Dundee United FC] on the day of the match monies due under Rule 46 c (3) and e of the Scottish FA Cup Competition Rules; being [Dundee United’s] share of receipts for the match; and by failing to pay to the Scottish FA within three days monies due under Rule 46 c (1) of the Scottish FA’s Cup Competition Rules; being the Scottish FA’s levy on admission charges for the above match.
Article 94.1: The Judicial Panel shall have the power to fine, suspend, or expel or in relevant cases to eject from the Challenge Cup Competition or apply such other sanction as is provided for in the Judicial Panel Protocol any recognised football body, club, official, Team Official or other member of Team Staff, player, referee or other person under the jurisdiction of the Scottish FA who, in its opinion, in any way brings the game in to disrepute or is likely to bring the game into disrepute or on any other grounds it considers sufficient and of which, subject to the rights of appeal, it shall be the sole judge.
Article 95: The Judicial Panel shall have jurisdiction subject to the terms of the Judicial Panel Protocol to deal with any alleged infringement of any provision of these Articles. A recognised football body, club, official, Team Official or other member of Team Staff, player, referee or other person under the jurisdiction of the Scottish FA if found to have infringed the Articles shall be liable to censure or to a fine or to a suspension or to an expulsion or to ejection from the Challenge Cup competition, to any combination of these penalties, or such other penalty, condition or sanction as the Judicial Panel considers appropriate, including such other sanctions as are contained within the Judicial Panel Protocol in order to deal justly with the case in

Just a thought but if it goes to a newco how can the signing ban be enforced it would be different company

Because they will use the old clubs license.

Good point. Depends if newco applies to be the continuation of Rangers or not (buys Rangers' SPL share), complete with SPL place. Re-applying to the SFL as a new team presumably gets around that. But it means playing in SL3.

23 Apr 2012 23:23:49
These administrators are making a full of themselves
They know who the prefered bidder is going be. This saga is turning into a soap opera

23 Apr 2012 23:23:26
the bbc reports says

Ally McCoist's men were also docked 10 points in the Scottish Premier League

is that the original ten points weve already lost when going into admin or a further 10 points??

More points if a newco solution happens. A CVA I think means just the 10 already deducted.

23 Apr 2012 23:16:58
Very interesting what sky sports said the players ally can buy is under 18s. Why. It should be free transfers only. Sfa r a joke ban us for 12 months it should be less - no ban 1 positive we Will be on target for the spend what you earn

Its a ban on registration of players , it doesn't matter if they are free agents or not , you cant sign anybody over 18 years old .

Does that mean spending minus 135 mil

23 Apr 2012 23:15:15
Think the new owners whoever they shall be should be challenging the transfer ban in a court of law,it is unprecedented and a restriction of trade and seems impossible to have to let players go and have no way of replacing them.

It's in the rules............green jhedi

Don't talk p!sh. Sion got hit with a transfer embargo and took it to every court who would hear them and they failed. Anyway who would pay the costs of going to court? The bidders that are sniffing about the now don't have a pot to p!ss in. So I'm afraid it's the end my friend!

23 Apr 2012 23:12:57
Why is Rangers essential for SPL and SKY deal?
If by a miracle they exists and are in SPL SKY won't pay big bucks for the depleted Rangwrs product of kids playing to keep kn top six.
SKY I'd paying for a £15m team being fielded not £1.5m team of kids.
How will such s team being sent to Div3, 2 or 1 be missed in the SPL? Remember it's not a team of superstars next year.

23 Apr 2012 23:11:08
Well the SFA has now sealed our fate. Why buy this club when one one and we MUST sell first team stars but now we cannot replace them. The timing is just f***ing perfect to screw up any lingering chance Miller or TBK may come through with a rescue package. Hope Regan and Lawell are proud of themselves because never mind hitting the last nail in our coffin they've just condemned Scottish Football to te same fate.

God I want us so much to survive this nightmare and come back and f*** these beaurocratic self serving b******* until they are screaming for our mercy? Yup I am angry!

Well looks like the SFA have just given Bill Miller his answer....and I wouldn't blame him to walk away!

I am distraught.

SPM

@SPM;Been reading your posts lately,good work by the way,but Murray more than whyte caused this.He would have sold to anybody,no proper due dilligence.........green jhedi

You broke the rules now you pay the price. As the spl's greatest manager said " THIS IS NOT THE END THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING" but in your case it's the beginning of the end! Hee hee hee

Miller put his chips in and the sfa called his bluff sorry mate its bye bye

23 Apr 2012 23:08:19
Rangers have been issued with £160,000 fine and a transfer embargo of 12 months placed on the club by the SFA. Absolute joke and kicking us in the guys when already battered and bleeding. They still want us in the SPL though don't they to keep the sky tv deal. You are a mockery of a governing body!

23 Apr 2012 23:00:45
no new players for 12 month ,thank you sfa youve proberly hit the final nail in the coffin ,we will never forget what you have done to the supporters and players and all the loyal workers of our great club ,ur up their with sdm and cw

Why blame the SFA? If you dont follow proper procedure you get penalised.Thats what rules are for............green jhedi

What is it with you peepil! Do you want to get away with everything? Take your punishment and shut up.

23 Apr 2012 22:57:36
Gers hit with 12 month transfer ban!

23 Apr 2012 22:52:31
Rangers banned from
Signing players for 12 months, applies to newco as well. Thats it. Baws burst.

Where is your source re a newco? Not mentioned anywhere else.

23 Apr 2012 22:16:00
Why are people saying the SPL can't afford Rangers being in the 1st Division. The way I see it they can't afford them being in.

Do not pay hearts for players
Owe Dundee united money
Owe Dunfermline money
Owe Celtic money

I think most clubs would be better off, SPL teams are sick of carrying Rangers as they DO NOT PAY their way!

Main poster Hearts due their money end of this season ya muppet.

23 Apr 2012 22:33:56
heard on SSN that Bill Miller has not asked administrators for more time in finalising his bid. starting to doubt who to believe we get told one thing from administrators and another story from the bidders. time is running out and something needs to be done and we need to be told the truth!

"You can't handle the truth"

23 Apr 2012 22:03:44
Ed could help here please.
Rfc annual runnin cost est £46 mill
With a £10 million est shortfall,
If then pay hmrc (alone) 10p in £
Would this not result in £14.6 est shortfall in year 2012/2013
& would also take 4 years with the £15 mill bill alone before btc
Also before any other creditor taking a pence in pound
Which would result in just shy of a £60 million shortfall over four years,
No business sence but if my sums rite can rangers survive that alone or can they ed? {Ed001's Note - the running costs have already been reduced, getting rid of a large number of players, especially if they are sold, would immediately reduce any shortfall.}

23 Apr 2012 21:55:43
If Rangers do have to start in a lower league, the SPL will continue without Rangers, and the other clubs will soon realize without the the income of Rangers away support twice a season, reduced TV money and maybe reduced sponsorship money will effect them.
So how do these clubs continue with the reduced earnings, buy less quality players, less quality player lowers the standard of the league, fans stop going to games, meaning again less income.

In my view the SPL cant do without Rangers for more than one season, personally i think Rangers will be kicked into league one next season, that's just my view,, and i base this on that your Aberdeen's,Dundee Utd and Motherwell of this world need Rangers to survive. These clubs will moan about Rangers, act like Neville Chamberlain waving a piece of paper shouting out its shocking,a disgrace, but will be happy to take the money the comes with Rangers being in the SPL.

Its comes down to principles, and these clubs cant afford to have principles.

Hate to say but Celtic are the only club that could survive a few season without Rangers, but even supporters would drift away cause the standard of the league would be poor

Das Shadow.

It may come as shock to you but the league actually has these things called rules. that's what will decide rangers future, if they have one.
there will be increased competition between the provincial clubs which will probably result in increased gates. when rangers come to town many fans will not attend their own teams match due to, well you know what (think manchester, newcastle etc). for most clubs the drop will not be that bad if indeed there is a drop. st. johnstone's biggest attendance of the rangers visits was 6577. the corresponding attendance v dundee utd was 5826. a difference of 751. so local rivalry can be seen to play almost as big a part in bringing in the crowds. there may have been reduced security costs which would offset that. so yes rangers do swell gates a bit but not like in the standing terrace days. there will be a 'non-rangers dividend' as well as a loss.
just go away quietly, the rest of us will be just fine.

Rules what rules, league can't even agree on how many teams to play in the each league, noticed you never mentioned TV money and sponsorship money.

@1 There will be no increased competition. It will be the same as is now minus RFC. Celtic at the top and another 2 or 3 clubs fighting for euro spots. The rest will remain as is this now with crowd sizes.
Only scotland and cfc will be able to help the euro co efficient. Not much hope there then.
All the clubs will have to sell players to help to survive. They will look to EPL and English Champ. for buyers. No change other than a buyer is out of the picture.
One thing that wil happen will be the drop in cfc season ticket sales. There will always be tickets available for games and numbers will drop when it becomes a regular event that the away team try to defend at Celtic Park. CFCs crowds will be affected down to about 20k to 25k maybe even lower. But of course a few euro games in July and August will booster the coffers.
It is survival this now for scot football, it will be even more focussed on that.

23 Apr 2012 21:45:47
Let's get this straight , after all the dead lines which have come and gone , no deal can be done as there are far too many problems for any buisiness minded people to make a sound decision . So let's own up to the fact that Rangers is unsellable and the only thing which canbe done is that D&P liquidate an see what the vultures do with the bones.
Depressed

23 Apr 2012 21:33:12
Bill miller hear is my list messi, Ronaldo, essien, kane, foley, torres, silva, nani, Hutton, evra, ibrox, Jones, hart. Joking aside we want our RANGERS TO SURVIVE THATS WHAT WE ALL WANT WITH A DEW NEW PLAYERS 5-10 WILL DO ND SOME1 TO HELP ALLY

23 Apr 2012 20:44:46
Still no preferred bidder.........ooft! Didn't see that coming, lol

Stand yer ground Craig Whyte, begining to like this guy!

Liquidation beckons......

Miko x

Wow the ugly little trolls are popping out from under the bridge tonight

Canyousaybanana!!

23 Apr 2012 20:15:47
said earlier on SSN that admin could go into june/july maybe & that no 'reasonable' bid has been made ? sorry but rangers/duff & phelps dont hold all the aces here,murray had rangers up for sale for 4 years & no one trapped about it,the club has been in admin since mid feb & all thats came in is 4 bids.liquidation is word thats been in the air since feb & still no one.so either D&P are digging there heels in,whyte....well we know hes digging his heels in & yet the 'best bid' so far is 11.2m ? & hes not even spoke to whyte ? if & its a big if rangers make it to the end of the season then they need to fire sale players to make ends meet surely?take D&P from day 1....any other admin company would have just made the cuts told davis & co thats the wage cuts you need to make dont like it go,not well its a deadline for this then we will extend it till tuesday for the wage cuts,right final bids this friday,no this friday?nah this friday ? nah were half day today etc.

as i said...rangers dont hold the cards there in need of a buyer,so if 11.2m is the best thats on the table then if that cant run the club from day to day etc etc then knock it back & tell everyone & the world we havent got a bid that can take the club forward so we have no choice to liquadate the company(the biders had 2 months to increase there offers & however didnt meet the requirement so its shut up shut shop with maybe a new co ?)

if you want to live in a world of the DR & TS papers & be spoon fed that jobbies then thats up to you but think about it 2 months & still nothing going down maybe the only way.

most celtic fans i know want rangers to stay up, but be hit hard for years to come & then if they can come back a big team but even if they stay up i cant see them being any bigger than they are the now think they will just end up like a aberdeen dundee utd etc years ago

lenny (ed hope you post this just my 2 bob worth not looking to kick anyone when there down but reading some posts it seems like people like being fed jobbies from certain media outlets)

23 Apr 2012 20:07:06
to the blue knights or Brian Kennedy step up get the deal done and then get a share issue and let the supporters do their bit.

23 Apr 2012 19:40:56
the reason all you septic fans are delighted at the prospect of Rangers being demoted to a lower division is that you are terrified that even with a weakened team we end up above AGAIN

Blah,blah......green jhedi

Celtic fans are not really thinking past their own hatered on this matter.

{Q}What do they think Liewell will do with no Rangers in the spl?, {A} cut the squad to a bare minimum and sign a team full of mediocre spl players on 5k a week.

If Celtic were put out in the early rounds of Europe what would they have to look forward to all season playing Ross co?

No doubts about it no Rangers in the spl Celtic attendance 20k max with star striker ojamaa from Motherwell in the team 18 months from now. Oh and just wait till the gang of 10 take all the tv money away from them.

Eh, no - that' just in your deluded wee head ;)

@2 being kind with 20k, are you no - maybe that's at the end of the season title party, got you, but not cup finals not very good at that.
They are gonnae do a special internet deal that no one else has thought of ever, just for their world wide ghlobal intergalactic domination fanbase supporters worldwide independance day.

@4; rangers v dundee early 80's att;8500

I would like you guys to please tell me this.
1. the winner of next derby.
2. winner of next national.
3. next euro lottery winning numbers.
you have a crystal ball or something which can see into the future ? lol. what a shower of d1ckheads you really are. in the seventies when rangers were absolutely sh1t and one year were 4th being watched during a home defeat by st. johnstone by 4000, aberdeen and hibs stepped up to the plate with fantastic teams to challenge celtic and how exciting it was. it will happen again. the ambitions of the other teams will grow and the cheating corrupt, poison at ibrox will be quickly forgotten. how apt a sh1tebag like whyte should drive the stake in.

23 Apr 2012 19:12:55
Note to Ed: Celtic fan in peace:
Given that Whyte never paid NI & PAYE is there and grounds for the staff which were involved in this, have "legal" grounds to take Whyte to court to get their (NI& PAYE) made up to full.
Its all very well for the players who are earning a few bob or 2. However the everyday worker then has a shortfall within their long term pension plan ,

Any idea????

CPRS1 {Ed001's Note - no, the NI and PAYE was deducted from their wages, so HMRC will honour that and they will be credited with those payments.}

23 Apr 2012 19:04:29
Billl Miller just issued a statement saying he didnt ask for more time. He has not spoken to Craig Whyte and the Blue Knights have to broker a some deal to get shares. So who are duff and phelps working for, this whole thing stinks

Where have u been? It's stunk from day 1.

23 Apr 2012 17:26:51
deadlines after deadlines pass yet they still keep this saga going we are sick of all the fake deadlines there needs be one set deadline and thats the end get it over and done with murray cant even raise 500k never mind millions to rebuild our squad and tickitus seem to be stalling miller seems the only one that has a brain to go wa an incuabter team shift the debt and assets thats what our club needs a clean slate to be viable in the future

Murray+Blue Knights have the 500k and also look like agreeing a deal with Ticketus the problem is D+P are not able to hand over the 85% shares held by CW as part of the conditions of sale this is the main hold up if CW is as he says a true Bluenose he would hand over the shares to the preferred bidder on request from D+P and end this fiasco now...

Dont you realise that if they had set a non negotiable time that bids that met all the criteria needed to allocate preferred bidder status to someone we would now be a liquidated company as no one has as yet tabled the afore mentioned offer,so we should be congratulating D@P on being so careful in their dealings,the last thing we want is a new owner who cant afford to run the club in a true manner

23 Apr 2012 17:09:41
another day drifts by , no good news yet , disappointed in kennedy not helping financially , his choice but he done a lot of singing. Blue bear

Mr Kennedy you said you would help save Rangers well heres your chance come on man we need you now FFS

23 Apr 2012 16:49:19
DUFF AND PHELPS, the administrators of Rangers Football Club, issued the following statement today.

David Whitehouse, joint administrator, said: "We have continued intensive discussions with interested parties over the weekend.

"The Blue Knights and Bill Miller have asked for a further short period of time to finalise their plans for the club prior to any announcement on a preferred bidder.

"At this stage neither party has currently made an offer that is capable of acceptance by the administrators and we can only move forward when we have an offer on the table that can be concluded following a period of final due diligence.

"In broad terms, the Blue Knights are trying to resolve issues regarding the structure of their proposed funding partnership with Ticketus as well as conducting further analysis of player contracts.

"The proposed bid from Mr Bill Miller is, as he made clear on Friday, subject to specific conditions.

"Both bidders have raised with us their strong desire to attain greater clarity on potential footballing sanctions the club may face and these remain issues to be resolved.

"We believe that both bidding parties have the best interests of the club in mind and, frustrating as though it is for fans, it is better that these complex issues are addressed now rather than later.



"It is imperative that whichever offer is taken forward can be delivered. For the avoidance of doubt, neither bid involves liquidation."

Paul Murray, of the Blue Knights, said: "Frustrating though this is for everyone with the interests of the club at heart, the Blue Knights are supportive of the administration process and we think it is right the administrators are giving parties left in the race the opportunity to finalise their plans."

Ally McCoist said: "It has been a frustrating time for everyone associated with the club but I would ask our fans to stick with us for a few more days as we should have a clearer idea of where we are.

"The administrators are working hard behind the scenes in very difficult and complex circumstances to ensure the future of Rangers Football Club."

Andy Kerr, President of the Rangers Supporters Assembly, added: "Our fans are frustrated by the further delay but hopefully the issues can be resolved in the next few days.

"I'm sure every effort is being made to make progress and it is vitally important that we have clarification soon. It would be helpful if supporters allow Duff and Phelps to get on with their work at this crucial time."

David Whitehouse added: "Because of what has happened at Rangers, the football authorities too have a difficult task as there are many unprecedented issues to deal with.

"This is a complicated administration due to recent and historical events at Ibrox and while everyone wants to see a solution brought about quickly there is a need to grasp the reality of the situation.

"It is all very well for some parties to talk in terms of delivering a Company Voluntary Arrangement. That is an administrator's primary objective.

"However, that can only be delivered successfully if it is agreeable to creditors and it is fair to say that certain bids that have been submitted may not have been approved by creditors.

"It is deeply regrettable that some parties have continued to present their bid as being a solution when it clearly was not the case.

"In terms of timing, we believe that should an unconditional bid be made that would meet creditors' approval and a CVA process could begin, the club could emerge from administration within a period of two months and certainly prior to the commencement of next season.

"If we proceed with an offer that is based on a sale of the business and assets, then we would expect the football club share to be transferred within a matter of weeks, with a preference of prior to the end of the current season.

"We fully understand and share the frustration of the fans. However, we cannot ignore the fact that while they wish to see an exit from administration there is a not a bid on the table now that will deliver that.

"Everyone should also bear in mind that if that is not achievable then we have to look at all options to keep the club going.

"What would be the worst outcome is neither party deciding they wish to carry on. It is therefore not in the club's interest for people - failed bidders and concerned supporters - to be generating hostility to bidders who are trying to secure the club's future."

We are the knights who like to say NI

23 Apr 2012 16:09:15
Dnp latest statemant,
Yummy more sh*t anyone
Time truth came out,

23 Apr 2012 15:55:30
DUFF AND PHELPS, the administrators of Rangers Football Club, issued the following statement today.

David Whitehouse, joint administrator, said: "We have continued intensive discussions with interested parties over the weekend.

"The Blue Knights and Bill Miller have asked for a further short period of time to finalise their plans for the club prior to any announcement on a preferred bidder.
"At this stage neither party has currently made an offer that is capable of acceptance by the administrators and we can only move forward when we have an offer on the table that can be concluded following a period of final due diligence.

"In broad terms, the Blue Knights are trying to resolve issues regarding the structure of their proposed funding partnership with Ticketus as well as conducting further analysis of player contracts.

"The proposed bid from Mr Bill Miller is, as he made clear on Friday, subject to specific conditions.
"Both bidders have raised with us their strong desire to attain greater clarity on potential footballing sanctions the club may face and these remain issues to be resolved.

"We believe that both bidding parties have the best interests of the club in mind and, frustrating as though it is for fans, it is better that these complex issues are addressed now rather than later.
"It is imperative that whichever offer is taken forward can be delivered. For the avoidance of doubt, neither bid involves liquidation."
Paul Murray, of the Blue Knights, said: "Frustrating though this is for everyone with the interests of the club at heart, the Blue Knights are supportive of the administration process and we think it is right the administrators are giving parties left in the race the opportunity to finalise their plans."

Ally McCoist said: "It has been a frustrating time for everyone associated with the club but I would ask our fans to stick with us for a few more days as we should have a clearer idea of where we are.

"The administrators are working hard behind the scenes in very difficult and complex circumstances to ensure the future of Rangers Football Club."

Andy Kerr, President of the Rangers Supporters Assembly, added: "Our fans are frustrated by the further delay but hopefully the issues can be resolved in the next few days.
"I'm sure every effort is being made to make progress and it is vitally important that we have clarification soon. It would be helpful if supporters allow Duff and Phelps to get on with their work at this crucial time."
David Whitehouse added: "Because of what has happened at Rangers, the football authorities too have a difficult task as there are many unprecedented issues to deal with.
"This is a complicated administration due to recent and historical events at Ibrox and while everyone wants to see a solution brought about quickly there is a need to grasp the reality of the situation.

"It is all very well for some parties to talk in terms of delivering a Company Voluntary Arrangement. That is an administrator's primary objective.
"However, that can only be delivered successfully if it is agreeable to creditors and it is fair to say that certain bids that have been submitted may not have been approved by creditors.
"It is deeply regrettable that some parties have continued to present their bid as being a solution when it clearly was not the case.

"In terms of timing, we believe that should an unconditional bid be made that would meet creditors' approval and a CVA process could begin, the club could emerge from administration within a period of two months and certainly prior to the commencement of next season.

"If we proceed with an offer that is based on a sale of the business and assets, then we would expect the football club share to be transferred within a matter of weeks, with a preference of prior to the end of the current season.

"We fully understand and share the frustration of the fans. However, we cannot ignore the fact that while they wish to see an exit from administration there is a not a bid on the table now that will deliver that.
"Everyone should also bear in mind that if that is not achievable then we have to look at all options to keep the club going.

"What would be the worst outcome is neither party deciding they wish to carry on. It is therefore not in the club's interest for people - failed bidders and concerned supporters - to be generating hostility to bidders who are trying to secure the club's future."

"In terms of timing, we believe that should an unconditional bid be made that would meet creditors' approval and a CVA process could begin, the club could emerge from administration within a period of two months and certainly prior to the commencement of next season."

It's the word "unconditional" that's the killer. Pressure now on SFA to waive through whatever the bidders need, which just leaves HMRC. Nerves of steel at the SFA I guess.

23 Apr 2012 15:31:55
Saw a link to a website called rangers media about news for the takeover so i went on to see all i can say is what a vile site this is no wonder we cant move forward when people like this follow the club they are all trying to pick the best songs for sunday most of them about child abuse or famine i wish these people would just stay away from the club we dont need them

Well said sir. Report it

"a website called Rangers Media" You cant be much of a Gers fan if you have never heard of this site.

Yea,shame decent gers fans get tarred with this rubbish.I think they had to apologise publicly last week for sectarian issues.......green jhedi

You seem surprised. You will find these sort of vile chats on the majority of football forums. Not just Rangers and Celtic forums but forums for clubs all over Britain......or the World at that fact.

The best thing to do is avoid these forums.

TTG

23 Apr 2012 14:09:35
Duff n Phelps latest statement....We dont do walking away.

23 Apr 2012 12:16:01
After reading millers statement on follow follow! I have to agree with his plans for the club! If he can protect the history of the club and then merge with the new-co at a later date when we are financially stable then he has my vote! The only glitch in the plan would be further sanctions by the sfa - points deduction or relegation to the 3rd division

Tv money suggests it wont be relegation

I think we might have to start the season with a ten point deduction! In that case the deal would be off and liquidation would then be a dead cert!

Don't fancy the blub knights - Paul Murray was on the board at Rangers when they fukd up the club! And they have no money!

23 Apr 2012 13:21:20
this story keeps going on i am getting real fed up way this al us fans are doing is paying for duff and phelps fees and getting fed a load of lies this is complete joke sumthing needs to be done

23 Apr 2012 12:50:37
This has become a total mess d& p,s should be removed from this and a new administration team appointed asap total wanks there us for as much as possible Craig whytes mates .

Well your wish for duff& phelps to be removed might come soon,hmrc going for court injunction to have them removed,progress report due on wed!not much to report apart from there huge bill gets bigger every day!stevo

Is it Wed now Stevo? Thought it was today, you know nothing so stop talking nonsense and leave the house sometimes.

@1 short one the day - not enough for your buckie hit?
Who pays the administrators costs and who approves them?
'As Telegraph Sport revealed previously – highly placed sources within HMRC have indicated that the tax authority will not oppose a Company Voluntary Agreement for Rangers provided that there is an ‘equitable’ settlement’ for creditors and that there is ‘regime change’ at Ibrox - namely, that Whyte is removed from the picture.
The words specifically used, it should be noted, were employed directly by HMRC officials and do not emanate from the administrators.'

23 Apr 2012 12:41:59
Saw this:
As it's St George's Day, @RFC_Lindsay has posed a teaser: Can you pick an XI of English players to have played for us? Tweet us your teams!

Or we could post here. Try this for starters

Woods
Roberts
Butcher
Ehiogu (I think he's English)
Bartley (must have someone from the current team!)
Stevens
Gazza
Steven
Walters
Hately
Francis

Rideout?
Wallace?

Michael Ball, Terry Hurlock and Ray Wilkins would all feature in mine

1 WOODS
2 STEVENS
3 SPACKMAN
4 BUTCHER
5 ROBERTS
6 WILKINS
7 STEVEN
8 GAZZA
9 HATELEY
10 WALLACE
11 WALTERS
SUBS
12 FRANCIS
13 BARTLEY
14 EHIOGU
15 DRINKELL
16 FALCO
17 BALL
18 CANT THINK OF ANOTHER KEEPER SO WILL LEAVE IT ALONE . MIGHT TRY AN NON UK TEAM NEXT.

1. C.WOODS

2. G. STEVENS
3. G. ROBERTS
5. T. BUTCHER (C)
3. N. SPACKAM

7. T. STEVENS
6. R. WILKINS
8. P. GASCOINE
11. M. WALTERS

9. M. HATELEY
10. K. DRINKELL

Subs:

12. M.BALL
14. T. FRANCIS

I know Ball is the natural Left Back but I just couldn't keep Spackman out the team and remember how many positions did he play in THAT game against Aberdeen?

SPM

Bartley and ball are rotten

Is Andy goram not English?

The EBT eleven what,s your best EBT eleven answer,s on a postcard to hmrc,garlar07

Terry hurlock. Mel sterland Dale Gordon chris vinniecombe Colin west

NON UK SIDE
1 KLOS
2 PORRINI
3 NUMAN
4 AMOROSO
5 CUELLAR
6 GATTUSO
7 VAN BRONKHURST
8 ALBERTZ
9 MOLS
10R DE BOER
11 MIKHAILCHENKO

23 Apr 2012 12:01:30
Rangers will be put into liquidation by the end of the week. TBK will apply to enter a new team in the spl after rngers effectively lose their place. They will then make a minimal offer to buy ibrox from whyte who wont sell as he will also be applying for the newco to take rangers place in the spl. Its going to be messy.

23 Apr 2012 11:19:48
See Celtic won yesterday, the referee must have had a good game then?

D&p are having a better game.....b

IF there was something to report i'm sure it would have been since it would be a major story involving the champions of scotland as everything they do seems to be, bored of it all now, please hurry and sort this mess out , #govanunderacloud.

Yes, he had a great game. Almost as good as ref at tyncastle on saturday. Just ask Steven Whittaker.

23 Apr 2012 11:13:49
whats going on one post tells us there will be nothing today next one says there will,,for Gods sake I wish this was over one way or another

23 Apr 2012 10:44:11
BBC Scotland: Rangers administrators hoping to announce a preferred bidder believe there will be announcement today as they have not received a "deliverable" bid

Paul Murrays Blue Knights have yet to agree with tickets and Bill Miller is seeking clarification on possible SPL sanctions.

23 Apr 2012 09:49:32
Kennedy told BBC that he is not financially supporting TBK, but is helping them in other ways.

Tea an biccies,garlar07

23 Apr 2012 08:56:12
Ref the nice but Dhim who posted this

Hmrc have never ever agreed a cva with a football club in uk to date.... absolute garbage to suggest they will with rangers

get your facts right and at least come of the porn pages for a moment and do some research before spouting rubbish. if you have a read or get someone to read for you this web page you will see that at least half a dozen British teams have agreed a CVA with HMRC

ww.footballmanagement.wordpress.com/category/debts/hmrc/

Yeah,but none of them were fighting the tax man.a CVA wont be given unless the company has a good record of tax payments......green jhedi

@1 with your predictions record that means a yes then.

@1 You might want to note
'As Telegraph Sport revealed previously – highly placed sources within HMRC have indicated that the tax authority will not oppose a Company Voluntary Agreement for Rangers provided that there is an ‘equitable’ settlement’ for creditors and that there is ‘regime change’ at Ibrox - namely, that Whyte is removed from the picture.
The words specifically used, it should be noted, were employed directly by HMRC officials and do not emanate from the administrators.'
There ia a world outside the RTC website or Paul (struck off) McConvilles site.

GJ...most of the brain washed blue noses are that deluded they keep buying into the media pr spin....if they had took ten min to have a look at the rangers tax case,that pesky timmy phil mcg,there demise was there for all to see over a year or2 ago...yet from them too the bbc, alex thompson, anyone who dare report anything negative about rfc is a timmy liar..the 4th april was deadline day!!!the wage deal ends at end of may,& still have got that SMALL matter of HECTOR to deal with..no income no cva,any new buyer is after the assets within rfc& to leave there HUGE debts& liabilities behind,scavaging on the corpse of rfc..stevo

@4 oh what a bitter wee boy, back on the buckie I see.
You have got to have saved your posts on here to paste again and again, cos it's the same p!sh all the time.
Gotta laugh you're getting more upset about this than most of the bears.
What a plonker.

23 Apr 2012 08:45:13
BING BONG!" this is a duff n duffur anounsemint, the 8:10 from govan, calling at usa, singapore, sale & murrytown,has been delayed agane for anuthur 6 weeks, due to the prospective buyer forgettin his wallit, please bear with us as we wait for his mammy tae go tae hur local poast offis tae draw her penshun oot tae help hum oot,thanks fur yur pashunce oan this the day n yesturday, ....
one of our staff will come amongst you to try to raise money for tea & sandwiches,we thank you for choosing to sit at govan stashun with duff n duffur,"
BING BONG!

23 Apr 2012 07:35:46
ANDY Little has urged Rangers' administrators to ensure they make the right choice in selecting a potential new owner as the club head into one of the most crucial periods in their history.


The striker was on target with a double in Saturday's 3-0 win over Hearts in the SPL as frantic discussions continued behind the scenes to safeguard the future of the club.

Little said: "I'm sure everybody is doing their best for the club. The gaffer follows it pretty well and he knows what's going on.

"I think he has said in the past, if it takes a bit longer to get the right man or the right people in charge, then that's fine.

"We don't want to rush into a decision. It's a big thing for the club and we want to make sure it's the right decision."

Manager McCoist famously claimed he "didn't do walking away" after the stricken Glasgow giants were forced to call in the administrators on 14 February.

And Little insists the players "don't do excuses" in terms of their owns performances despite the off-field problems over the last couple of months.

Results initially appeared to be affected as Rangers slumped to three defeats in four matches, but they have now strung together a run of four consecutive victories in the SPL.

The Northern Irishman said: "We just want to play for everything in every single game.

"We have targeted the games after the split to give something back to the fans. They have been absolutely brilliant with us.

"When you are at Rangers, no matter what's happening, it's all about winning games.

"We don't really do excuses. We could use all the excuses under the sun with what's going on, but we're not really interested in that.

"That's something that's drummed into you from a pretty young age here."

He added: "I don't think it's been a real problem, I think it's been going on for long enough now.

"It's not like we are waiting on tenterhooks. It's going on in the background and we are getting on with it. It's frustrating for any Rangers fan, player or anybody involved with the club.

"It would be more ideal if we could get it sorted out as soon as possible. But we can't affect it too much. I'm sure everybody at the top of the club is doing their best and working their hardest to get it sorted."

Sone Aluko opened the scoring against Hearts at Tynecastle on Saturday, before Little struck either side of the break and Craig Beattie missed a penalty for Hearts to ensure a comfortable victory for Rangers.

Despite the off-field dramas, Little said: "I'm enjoying it, I'm just loving it at the minute.

"Obviously it's a bad time for the club but, for me, it has been a really good spell and long may it continue."

Alex cee

Would Little get anywhere near your first team if you weren't in administration and facing liquidation?

Probably not no-name#1, but he did score against the dhims at Ibrox, and scored two against Hearts, something that the "East-End Barca" couldn't manage, so he's not that bad a fringe player is he now?
Stevie-A-Bear

@1 thought he was a cracker player against us garlar07

23 Apr 2012 02:55:09
lets be positive..great result for Ally and the team yesterday

23 Apr 2012 00:54:03
I will finish my beer and go to bed when i wake tomorrow rangers wont be dead, they will get money to buy better players, so lennon and celtic you better say your prayers . enjoy you stolen cup.....trueblue.

Are you sure you didn't type this in your sleep when you were dreaming?

23 Apr 2012 00:31:11
Whats the best outcome :

Stay in spl 10 points deducted 75% income etc as reported for the next 2-3 years still owe taxes etc

Or

Bite the bullet go into the liquidiser , still keep ibrox but sale the name etc keep Murray park , go to 3rd div , prob lose all our players but start afresh with the youngsters be debt free / ok rangers as a "name would die" but we would surely we would still be the gers with 4-5 years be back stronger than before.

Both outcomes are the same, we will only face that penalties if we are liquidated or still in admin

Still can't see why people are so optimistic about 'coming back 4-5 years later - even stronger'?

3-5 years no big crowds no europe, no big sponsors, no medium signings never mind TOP signings.

is it just me?

bill72

Is there any possiblity of the newco being devoid of all the bigotry and bile that was ingrained in the old co ?

@3 feck no