Rangers Banter Archive May 22 2015

 

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22 May 2015 18:16:13
Hearing that Vladimir weiss could be a potential signing target for rangers in the summer

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{Ed039's Note - Yes, Ronaldo and Bale are unsettled at their clubs too)

22 May 2015 20:10:57
Would love to see him back in a Gers top great player

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22 May 2015 20:44:05
Pmsl great comeback ed!!

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{Ed039's Note - Some of the "rumours" are just something else mate, Rangers are more likely looking at the likes of the boy Carmichael at QoS, even Scott Allan would be a push but its Weiss is the name I hear ..... I had to make a joke coz I was damn near pissing myself laughing)

22 May 2015 21:01:32
Thought daryll meggat and Kevin holt would have been good signing although both have now gone too Dundee.

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22 May 2015 21:18:13
Why can't people see beyond former rangers players when it comes to potential signings or new managers?

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22 May 2015 23:11:00
Isn't Petr Cech on the sniff? And maybe Xavi would swap Qatar for Milngavie. If we push the boat out Rahim Sterling doesn't want to stay on Merseyside. dear dear.
On the Weiss story it may have legs from his side but I an informed that a new wage structure will be basic and controlled with performance led bonuses and success related payments.

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23 May 2015 11:56:44
Dean Brett anyone?Haha he's a rocket.

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22 May 2015 17:35:17
Quite worried about fatigue tomorrow.It will definitely be a factor in the game.McCall will have to get his substitutions right along with the shape of the team.We'll need to hold on to the ball better too.

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22 May 2015 20:53:35
Bit worried about fatigue myself mate, 52 year old,out on a stag do,late late finish and an early kick off,good luck and enjoy the day all Bears I'm sure we can get through tomorrow unlike myself tonight. Mon the Gers.

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22 May 2015 17:28:48
The immensity of the challenge facing Kings and TTB in rebuilding the club was graphically illustrated by our shambolic display in last night's Youth Cup Final. Durrant listlessly watched his charges being outclassed. It was Allylite night - no plan, players out of position, unfit, uncoached and undeveloped. The club is broken top down and bottom up. These youngsters - and there is some genuine talent in Walsh, Sinnamon, Gasparotto and Hardie - deserve much more professional stewardship. While DK must clearly give priority to proper blub governance and a revamped first team squad, there much also be put in place a modern coaching and development structure to nurture our young players and mould them into an effective unit. If not, what few young playing assets we have will decay as fast as the Stadium. And that malaise must also be infecting the much younger kids as well. Neglect this, and we neglect a vital part of the rebuilding project and a viable future.

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22 May 2015 23:18:38
They should have binned Durrant with McDowell and put Durie back into that role until a full time youth supremo can be sourced. We are five years from having a proper footballing infrastructure and a "rangers" culture instilled in all the players top to bottom.
Durrant has been as listless as mccoist and frankly I do not agree with AM,KMcD, i'd getting any pay off. Interference and board issues aside there was nothing to stop keeping the players fit and motivated. Sadly that would only have covered 30% of the challenge! tactical ability to set out a winning team! organise the defence! structure a midfield and have pacey frontmen was the rest. AND the ability to see it all fall apart and do something other than drag 11 men back to defend corners and go for the long ball to the old guys up front.

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23 May 2015 03:10:32
Put durie back in that role when he was kenny McD assistant he sat on his arse doing and saying nothing.

Durie was the man put out incharge of the youth development squad but in truth billy kirkwood was doing all the donkey work get durie, durrant the lot of them gone

Bring in the likes of Neil McCann, Derek Adams, Derek Ferguson, even Barry Ferguson to challenge the youth to prove themselves develop them into players capable of what's required to be a ranger!!

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22 May 2015 11:31:51
Saw a vote poll on Rangers team performance last night and I was very pleased to see 2 things firstly Murdoch being recognised as our star man then Vuckic , Miller and Foster especially Foster considering the pelters he has had on here, being our clear top 4 players.

Secondly I was also pleased to see that Wallaces awful performance being noticed he was woeful in passing and never once took his man on or provided overlap like Foster did on other wing plus I lost count of the amount of times Hibs had acres of room attacking Wallece's supposed left back position where the heck was he? Strolling back? Law too was hopeless he is a terrible passer and can't beat a man I lost count of passes by him that went to a Hibs player and he seems to go awol constantly. Finally Bell, he is basically sh*te, never controls his box and the worst Rangers goalie I can remember in 50 years of watching Rangers we urgently need to replace him if we make the SPFL he is a 6-0 waiting to happen mind he was Killie's goalie in Rangers 5-1 SPL final day win, he was sh*te then to I am glad to say.

It is good to see Rangers fans are astute in their observation of who is ACTUALLY playing well and who is playing sh*te in our team.

Great fighting spirit though I cannot fault that part of McCall's team

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22 May 2015 15:32:22
Thanks for bringing this up KT. I thought my wife was slipping me drugs or something when nobody seemed to take in my opinion about Foster and his much improved displays in the last few games. I think he has been outstanding, especially in our last 2 matches at Ibrox. Even Kenny iller said as uch in his post match interview on WEdnesday. Look, I'm not saying that Foster is necessarily the answer. All I'm saying is please cut the guy some slack. He has done well. Does it hurt so much to acknowledge this. Also agree with you about Wallace and especially Law. I cannot believe how easily he can be brushed off the ball. He goes down like a wet lettuce

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22 May 2015 16:03:14
Foster never has been and never will be the answer can't believe the amount of praise he is getting. He played ok in Wednesday nothing more however his bad games still out weigh his good games. Very average player and not the type to take us forward. He is just as liable to have a shocker on Saturday similar to the performance against Hibs earlier in the season.

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22 May 2015 16:27:35
he has definetly played better but is still not a great defender

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22 May 2015 21:02:06
But he is still the best option.

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22 May 2015 23:24:17
Totally agree about Wallace, looks at queens move on Saturday for the goal, he should have covered the runner with Murdock or law falling into the box to make up numbers. On the plus side, he can play a lot better and at a much higher level, Law on the other hand has scored some goals, gave us abuse, and run about like a headless chicken most of this season.
Not sure what others feel but Nicky. Clark seems to lack direction, composure, positioning sense and struggles to hold the ball up. Never thought he was rangers class but assumed working with Miller, Boyd and Daly would have helped him but he does not deserve to be In a premiership. Rangers team, if we get there.?

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22 May 2015 11:31:09
I am 100% in support of the new board and no matter what they are for me people that actually want the best for Rangers now and in the future, I thought it important to state that.

The reason being I am starting to get 1 Annoyed 2 Worried by the 2 totally different sets of plans and promises we are getting from Mr King and I stress Mr King not the board.

Prior to the EGM when we as fans were needed to effect the removal of the toe rags from our board we were promised funding which was completely and I stress completely free of conditions such as Mr King's fit and proper person review. We were told that a NOMAD was in place and regardless an alternative listing format would be sourced if AIM delisting happened. The investigation of every Ashley/Green deal and contract plus all our financial dealings would be forensically 'accounted'.

There has been a fair amount of time since the EGM and all of these promises/commitments have changed in form.

I clearly remember King stating he was commiting "his family's inheritance" to his share of the funding for rebuilding, now today he states that he is not going to be putting that self same inhertance at risk plus he has stated in the last few days that he was going to reconsider investment in the club if he was not cleared fit and proper, before the EGM he stated clearly it would no matter if he was cleared or not he would invest regardless.

He is also now stating we should be thankful of Ashley's 5m loan. this is the same loan that we signed away swathes of our kit deal for and where security has been taken over Rangers assets plus club crest rights!

He stated transparency will be the number one virtue of the new board yet when asked NOW how much he will contribute to our desperately needed rebuilding process, and now when our EGM votes are not an issue he can't come of with even a ballpark number. mind you when you state a figure you can be called to task at a later date if it does not appear. actually he now, WORRYINGLY, brings up the fact he has lost £20million. hmmm that was Oldco Rangers where a lot of small businesses that could not afford it lost fortunes. why refer to that now when asked what he is actually going to PUT IN! Seems to me like a diversion tactic. The whole thing to me reminds me so much of politicians "vowing" to do all sorts of things for the community prior to an election then after being voted in reneging on these promises and coming out with political smokescreen speeches to divert attention away from their original "vows".

As I stated originally this board are better than what we had but I do not like the way that everything appears to have changed , the goalposts have been moved and I am concerned that it may turn out yet again that WE THE FANS will in fact be the funders of any future for Rangers by means of a share issue, assuming they can actually find a market for this issue , the usual season ticket purchases en masse and I fear we will be asked also to come on board with buying into the Puma kit deal funding Sports Direct after King possibly gleans a few extra percent of the deal in Rangers favour.

The £5million loan not being paid back allowing Ashley influence and control of Rangers assets is I feel a huge PR error on King's part too.

Things need to happen and they better be more in line with what was actually promised if King does not want to see us fans start to lose faith in him which could very easily happen I am sure he is praying for us to win the playoffs to take attention away from all these issues.

Comments Bears?

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22 May 2015 12:22:08
KT, A good post, from a bluenose, based on facts. I am just waiting on the completion of the play-offs before throwing my tuppence worth in, as I think that our status for next season will be the key to investment.
I am glad that DK has 'come clean' on the investment he was proposing from his family pension fund, as the trustees would never have allowed.
My main concern, like you KT, is the non-clearance of Ashley's £5million and his hold on assets.
However, at the end of the day, Dave King is a shrewd operator and we must back his judgement as the alternatives do not bear thinking about.
In the meantime our 'job' is to support our team to success in the play-offs and then deal with what comes.

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22 May 2015 14:22:40
the part of his statement where he said he has alreay lost £20m is untrue he got most of his money back from s dm company murray sports

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22 May 2015 14:30:21
A good post KT and fully understand your concerns in King but I remain confident in our new chairman. In terms of the NOMAD, King has said he has one lined up yes but he himself cannot appoint a NOMAD, they have to be invited by the club which will, I hope, be a priority at the first board meeting. Also until he was declared fit and proper King wasn't allowed to act like the chairman so couldn't begin to investigate any of the Green/Whyte deals by looking through the books. I believe his comments about losing £20million the last time he invested in rangers were intended to reassure fans that he is investing for the benefit of the club and not personal gain. He has been quoted as saying the investment needed would be £30m over a medium-term period to take rangers back to the top however he cannot guarentee the short-term investment as it is dependant on what league we are playing in next year but if it is the premiership I believe the investment would be £20m short-term, spread throughout the club, with half coming from King's pocket. In terms of Sports Direct and Mike Ashley he has recently seemed to avoid the questions about the £5m loan and has said that the whole Sports Direct relationship is an issue to which he must attend. So although I have thought King has sounded good in his interviews, and is the way forward for the club, I was disappointed that he hasn't been fully transparent on Sports Direct so got to hope he will strike a good deal, hopefully getting the retail rights back in rangers hands. The important thing though as billy mentioned is to support the team through the play-offs, hopefully getting back where we belong which is when we can begin to rebuild as a club and begin to look optimistically ahead.

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22 May 2015 23:33:15
I can see merit in all aforementioned points. We can only assume that the. Brian Kennedys, George Parks, Lethams, Kieron prior are all open to chucking in cash at an open share issue which dilutes Ashley's share(which he can't increase anyway given dual ownership) I think we need I meditate transparency in the commercial implications of either buying or not buying merchandise. I understand penalties will be applied for what is not sold. So where is the tipping point of buying or not. Some advice or at least facts to allow us to make a decision on whether to procure that god awful home shirt, made for 2 bob, sold for 54.99 oh no that was the before sale price. -:)

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22 May 2015 10:09:08
Ten years on to the day HELICOPTER SUNDAY how's your memories of one of the most incredible days as a Gers fan,still go goosy and the hairs on the back of the neck go up whenever I watch the rerun. Definitely a top ten moment in all my years follow following.

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22 May 2015 06:22:41
Dave king has admitted they havnt been able to agree a deal with mccoist! At least now ally can be seen as the money grabber he is. He should of give up his wages when the new board came in instead he has took around £56grand a month out of the club since the. Mccoist your a disgrace!

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22 May 2015 13:09:05
He has a legally binding contract. Removing the football attachment, in what other job would you not take what was due to you? It is not his fault the old regime gave him such a good remuneration. These details should be discussed 'in house', thought the new board were better than this.

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22 May 2015 13:37:08
I don't believe articles that don't have any quotes on it.

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22 May 2015 13:54:21
So u agree with what mathers, wallace and green got when they left club because they where entitled to it? Myles dave king said it yesterday

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22 May 2015 14:15:30
Hooly, in your opinion Ally should give up what he is entitled to. I stated fact in that he has a legally binding contract, therefore he is entitled to it. I believed it would have been beneficial to come to an agreement when the new board came in. Any positive outcome should be kept private though.

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22 May 2015 15:14:05
So the payouts to to wallace mather and greens alright then to

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22 May 2015 16:33:24
I think McCoist is entitled to it, I think he should do the right thing and give it back but Dave king said that the situation is resolved but he hasn't asked him himself yet to strike a deal. Daily Record is a terrible paper for the truth, they want sales by talking 50% of the truth. The Sun put it nicely though quoting exactly what King said on Ally.

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22 May 2015 18:20:34
McCoist is doing exactly what he was always did as "manager", looking after No.1 at Rangers expense, he probably is contractually due this money as payment from his bosses for giving them the time to pick Rangers to the bone by pacifying the fans, I bet he and Chuck Green had a good laugh at that one, laughing all the way to the bank. He was never employed as a "football" manager more of fan pacifier/salesman, McCall has achieved more on the training ground and pitch in a few months than Super did in 3 1/2 dreadful years because he is football manager not a corporate dummy on enormous wages. The return of football will bring the crowds back who will spend and revenue will rise, the exact opposite of McCoist and his bosses intentions, so Rangers will flourish despite Superally not because of him, he should be publicly shamed for what he did to the club he supposedly loved, and banned from Ibrox for life.

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22 May 2015 18:56:13
The new board where happy to use the daily record to help get rid of the old regime myles

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23 May 2015 06:43:25
Hooly, do you have a problem understanding people? If it is legal then so be it. I never offered my opinion on it. Think about it sweetheart, whether I agree with it or not matters not a jot.

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