Rangers Banter Archive February 22 2019

 

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22 Feb 2019 20:51:18
Before anyone gets "offended". What I mean by that is that if Boyd had thrown a wobbler then walker etc would have acted in the same way as they did with Clarke. "The liberal left will die for your right to agree with them. Disagree with them and they phone the police" Peter Hitchens.



23 Feb 2019 12:17:14
Peter Hitchens being quoted on here on a Saturday morning, whatever next. Good post Jmaster.



22 Feb 2019 19:50:57
Killie keeper red rescinded apparently. Is the kicking and stamping of feet from the mhanks actually dictating these decisions now?



22 Feb 2019 20:34:38
Completely flabbergasted by this decisiom. The whoke thing is a joke and the sooner this gang of useless individuals are chased out of the place the better. Harking back to the sectarian singing i watched the rerun of a giggling Ian Crocker and Andy Wa*ker during the Boyd incident. Ha ha, just look at him he loves it, doesn't he? Bet they feel a bit silly now after, firstly the coin throwing moron did his bit and then Boyd himself admit that it is part and parcel of the game when you are connected to Rangers. He then wemt on to say thar it is water off a duck's back etc, before declaring that yes, he has to accept it, however it does not make it right. Perfect response to the offended that want our club shut down while their fans are only guilty of harmless banter. Meanwhile they have all sorts of dark clouds hanging over them for various reasons i don't need to highlight. A club like no other - damn right it is.



22 Feb 2019 20:48:56
It would seem that it's ok if Boyd says he's man enough to shrug it off yet a disgrace if Clarke has a meltdown. It's wrong on both fronts. It seems these days if you cry "I'm offended" that everyone agrees with you for fear of the backlash šŸ™ˆ. Snowflake generation as they call it. I'm only 33 and I'm sick of everyone's right to be offended. What about the right to offend? Bill Hicks must be spinning in his grave.



22 Feb 2019 15:51:41
Dont know if any of you have seen the fans camera angle of the killie keepers elbow on kamara. The ref got it sport on. definitely red card.



22 Feb 2019 18:40:59
100% seen it total shocker.



22 Feb 2019 19:49:56
Agree it was a red card but why then has Kilmarnockā€™s appeal been successful and the red recinded by the SFA.



22 Feb 2019 19:50:53
Makes you wonder then why the SFA recinded it.



22 Feb 2019 20:08:54
Typical SFA, red card rescinded.



22 Feb 2019 20:23:22
lets face it is anybody surprised by the card being rescinded i would have been more shocked if it had stood 1 thing for us and another for everybody else its not paranoia its fact liewell and his sfa cronies.



22 Feb 2019 20:56:39
What about the numorous red card use have had recindid this year? . Away n stop play the poor old us p. h . Tge refs are just terrible full stop and the pannel who reviews are just as inconsistent.



22 Feb 2019 21:17:23
what red did we have rescinded we shouldnā€™t have EOB?

I agree refs are awful but just curious to hear your views.



22 Feb 2019 22:10:14
Celticeob, is that the same as the anti catholic card pi$hšŸ¤”, I agree that the refs are rotten and the panels are inconsistent but when you come on here preeching the "poor us" pi$h have a look in the mirror before trying to take the moral high groundšŸ‘.



22 Feb 2019 22:11:11
Alfies in the first game against the dons, kicks out off the ball but gets away with it . There there are tje contentious decisions from mcgregor ect, not saying there is a bias just honstly think the officials are terrible in genral.



22 Feb 2019 23:25:38
Celticeob welcome to the RANGERS rumours, poor old us p. h? Pot kettle and black! Coming from one of USE! We can smell the fear. and still we follow on.



22 Feb 2019 11:28:45
I'm convinced that a major contributer to any form of hatred whatever form it takes is social media have a look the hatred between our fans and fans of others is staggering how can we and by "we" I mean Scottish football possibly eradicate sectarianism when there is such unfiltered unedited bile allowed on these platforms without any redress rangers and celtic are accused of paying lip service to it to me social media doesn't even go that far!
In the main celtic fans on here are OK there's a definite banter feel to it or possibly ED does a great job filtering it out
Sad world on social media.



22 Feb 2019 11:45:13
The Queen; The Pope; The UDA; The IRA; The Union Jack and The Irish Tri-colour should not be used to identify both Rangers and Celtic - we are ALL Scottish. We are Scottish Football Clubs. We are Glasgow Football Clubs. For whatever reason we have adopted culture from Ireland and made it our own.

I am a Rangers fan and so was my dad but he married my mum who was Catholic - both have been dead many years but their memories live on - they crossed the divide in Glasgow when it was more than frowned upon from both sides but rose above it. My family are all mixed rangers and celtic supporters as it should be - I am proud to say that I have never sung the sash, and never will.

I will probably be vilified and harangued for my post but I am not the problem, the problem is with those who think I am wrong.

Rangers is a great club with a great history and does not need sectarianism or bigotry and those who say no to that should really stop and think.



22 Feb 2019 12:01:51
for me the problem is simple. schools. as long as kids are segregated the divide will exist.



22 Feb 2019 12:06:10
Right here it is. folk constantly sayin oh i don't sing this or that. Beating the tims at ibrox am sure every single person was singing the billy boys and such like. Celtic games and away games 95% of songs has a ref to then or the pope etc do you tell people of around you for singing it?



22 Feb 2019 12:15:07
True blue, you are entitled to your opinion and I would be the first to stand by your side, but why bring NI into your argument, have we tails over here, just like yourself my parents were of mixed faith. I donā€™t like being vilified because of where I live.



22 Feb 2019 12:29:04
Ulsterman - I brought Ireland into the argument. I love the Irish, be they catholic or Protestant does not matter to me, and I love going to Ireland. However, it cannot be ignored that those Irish that came over to Glasgow brought their 'troubles' with them and act out their hatred of each other at Ibrox and Parkhead.

In Scotland you are Scottish not Irish, or London English.



22 Feb 2019 12:43:00
I stopped singing these ridiculous songs when I was 14 (50 now) and even then it was because I was a bit of a sheep like most - I then grew up. I would then leave Ibrox go back home and next day play football with my mates half of which were catholic with no issue but definitely a rivalry.

I for one refuse to sing these bigoted songs even when the atmosphere is at its most fever pitched. The whole siutation is ridiculous, I suggest every one of us have a good look at our family trees and I think you will find that most of us are from both faiths In equal measure

The hypocrisy is staggering.



22 Feb 2019 12:58:06
MOLS - a breath of fresh air.

Bringing it out in the open and having a discussion is the best solution.



22 Feb 2019 12:58:29
True Blue
To say the NI people act out their culture in Scotland is incorrect, Iā€™ve went to Glasgow regularly over the years and never once on our bus or plane have I heard anything detrimental to anyone, no fenian this or UDA or UVF talk, we go to watch Rangers full stop, football. I personally think you are out of order with your views, if you came to where I live youā€™d hear nothing only normal conversation, I have a lot of Scottish friends and I thank them for not feeling like you feel, but in saying all that, you are entitled to your views as iā€™ve already said.



22 Feb 2019 13:14:51
Ulsterman - The Sash is a song about Derry and about a battle near Iniskillen - it is not a Scottish song it is an Irish song, and across the clyde they sing the Soldier's Song.

and for many many years cllloections for the UDA and the IRA were the norm - Correct me if I am wrong.

I am very glad to hear that you and your friends are not sectarian or bigoted - the more the merrier.

and I also would shake your hand and stand by your side.



22 Feb 2019 13:36:45
Give the bloke with the megaphone a song book - tell him to stick to it, or he gets booted out. Will help a lot.



22 Feb 2019 13:40:58
True blue, out of respect for the Edā€™s on this site Iā€™ll bring this to a close, if I thought for one moment that a majority of Scottish Rangers supporters thought like you about my country and itā€™s culture, I wouldnā€™t be back to Ibrox. Ref. The sash, I never sing it, I class myself as a quite an intelligent guy who travels the world both for work and for holidays and as for your culture ā€œ I love it ā€œ the Scots and the NIrish people are cousins, whether you like that or not .



22 Feb 2019 14:14:39
Fair do's Ulsterman, but methinks you totally missed what I was referencing. I am not denigrating you or your culture. Irish songs should be sung in Ireland and not sung or celebrated in Scotland.

Finito!



22 Feb 2019 14:28:47
Ballochblue2 You are correct in what you say BUT I went to an secondary school in Broxburn West Lothian to which was prominently Protestant But then the Catholic school would not except any other denomination, Thatā€™s where all the problems lie.



22 Feb 2019 14:50:32
Cunny in oz, the same happens in NI, Catholic schools mostly only take catholic pupils, but it is changing, my youngest son is a teacher in a catholic school and they are beginning to bring in Protestant teachers like himself as well as different faiths, itā€™s a good sign.



22 Feb 2019 16:01:04
Ulsterman - not in Scotland. My middle son has transferred from a non-denominational high school to Catholic High School with no problems and no issues - loves it and plays footie for the school.



22 Feb 2019 16:09:37
You would have to wonder why the devide starts
I grew up with kids on my street and we all played away fine till P1 where the McCabe and Doyle family sent the kids to a different School. At my School we supposed
Rangers Motherwell Hamilton some also Dundee Utd
1 kid supported Celtic
As we progressed to high school we would play against the local Catholic HS at football and I can remember these games being a very agessive games more than any other
Sectarian songs were around from P6 P7 onwards
Kids talked about seeing army guys being killed on TV every week and civilians by the IRA and hear you had a bunch of kids on the opposite side singing about CFC and the glorified acts of the IRA
I am sure they saw the opposite side with the loyalist paramilitaries doing the same
Itā€™s easy to see how hatetrid flourished
Sadly
It needs to change and stop itā€™s a disgrace.



22 Feb 2019 18:57:40
This is a very good and informed discussion. The issue is much bigger than football, any particular club and is deep rooted and an issue for society. Clarkeā€™s anger may be real but unfortunately he is missing the point.



22 Feb 2019 19:17:26
Years ago I had a client over from Belfast for an old firm game at Ibrox he said he had not seen bigotry like that back in Belfast. His words the folks from NI are amateur in the bigotry stakes compared to Scotland
That was 20 years ago and itā€™s sad itā€™s not changed much.



22 Feb 2019 19:50:14
Cant understand singing anti-catholic songs when we have catholics in our team - that's just disrespectful to people who in some cases are our heroes. Surely for the good of our club and our team we can rise above this level of behaviour - i'm no snowflake by the way and iv never been offended by chants from other supporters - if folk want in their own free time to hate other religions then that's their business but don't bring it to Ibrox with you.



22 Feb 2019 20:50:10
True Blue. Not sure if you know your history (rubbish song) but Catholic and Protestant issue in Scotland go way way back. The attachment to both old firm clubs can't be blamed on the Irish. It's more prominent in Glasgow because Glasgow has always had a alliance to the crown que bonnie prince Charlie getting told to feck off.

I come from a dolly mixture family as my Irish friends once called it and the other one used to spit when he said my name (Billy) . Good lads I just laughed. In this day and age it has to stop but don't blame the Irish feck sake.



23 Feb 2019 00:55:31
I respect all the comments made and strongly felt and as a failed Catholic I still believe in the fact that we are all the same. It's refreshing to see this topic being debated and on this site, debated with no malice and a general understanding. I do have one concern and that is the notion that the problem stems from separate Catholic school, having gone to one and having all my kids at primary and Secondary, they were not taught to hate anyone and as grown men they have become great human beings. Catholic schools do not preach hate, parents and those organisations who thrive on divide and conquer are the peddlers of this bile.



23 Feb 2019 01:06:01
I have no idea what religion my dad is, he's never mentioned it. My mother is catholic and occasionally goes to chapel. My religion is my wife and 3 kids my daughter is a big Rangers fan, and from this year a season ticket holder, she is Catholic and goes every week.
I see nothing wrong with wearing the Jack or the Tricolour, it's just the same as wearing a Rangers or Celtic top.



22 Feb 2019 09:40:56
What team should SG put out on Sunday against Hamilton on the dreaded plastic pitch? With Morelos banned, I think he must play Lafferty AND Defoe. My team (assuming McGregor is available again, I can't remember) :

McGregor; Tavernier, Goldson, Katic, Halliday; Kent, Arfield, Kamara, Kent; Defoe; Lafferty

For me, Halliday epitomises what every player wearing the blue shirt should be doing. 100% passion! Maybe in-form Motherwell can do us a favour at the midden heap.



22 Feb 2019 10:11:08
IMO cannot drop Jack and Candyman. I would be so tempted with a 3-5-2 -

Tav / Goldson / Katic
Kent / Jack/ Kamara / Arfield / Candyman
Defoe / Lafferty

Hamilton will sit back, so any point in 4 defenders?



22 Feb 2019 10:26:47
Sorry, I meant to type Jack before Arfield, not Kent twice!



22 Feb 2019 11:35:57
The last time he went 352 at Motherwell he lost, he won't do that again I assure you. I think McCrorie will come in for Kamara. It'll be a scrap, Halliday probably for Barisic.



22 Feb 2019 12:08:02
Last time he playing 352 at motherwell we drew 3 each with Gerrard making the mistake of making a subby taking wallace on to defend a corner.



22 Feb 2019 14:13:44
I'd love and prefer to see one of the young lads play instead of Lafferty.



22 Feb 2019 14:56:21
Just because we drew playing 352 should be no reason to boot the formation out. How many awful performances have we had playing 433 yet we stick with it. We're not good enough to just put the same team out every week and have other teams bend to our will, we need to address each game as a different problem that can't all be solved with the same system.



22 Feb 2019 22:02:01
Regarding the draw at Motherwell we scored 3 goals but the 3 we lost were due to a slip from goldson and 2 set plays so nothing to do with the formation as far as Iā€™m concerned.



22 Feb 2019 09:19:03
Hey guys I posted a few days ago but it never got added so will shorten it.

I totally agree with Tom Boyd, s assessment of referees being biased and favouring one club over the rest. All I want you to do is type into Google search SPL fairplay chart for season 2018-2019 and look at the counts of yellow and red card so far this season for all clubs in the league.

So their request to bring in outside referees. I say bring it on as we may just get a fairer more balanced approach. Rather than one clubs card count being just over half of any other club in the league apart from St Johnstone.



22 Feb 2019 16:27:10
To be fair Tom Boyd is not that bright some one must have told him the story and he has repeated it
The whole itā€™s the Masonic refs club is BS
Having watched Rangers for 40 years we have been on the wrong end of a few horrible decisions.



22 Feb 2019 00:03:45
Scotlands Co efficient has gone up just shy of 2 champions league places. Scotland try to knock us but they need us more than ever. We have made the difference this season and Scotland as a football league and nation will get better. We will see the best of some of this year's signing next year, when they get a full preseason and have bedded in, this season was all about steadying the ship and I think we are on the right road. In sg we trust.



22 Feb 2019 09:25:35
Wrong. We were one result away from our league winners playing a qualifier less
Nothing else.



22 Feb 2019 20:17:08
As I understand Scotland are in 19th place in the co eficient just shy of playing 1 less round in qualies 15th place gets you a 2nd placed team in CL but the points we need to get to 15th place is way out our reach.



23 Feb 2019 01:00:31
AS1974 where are you? Before killie game you came on here spouting negativity saying we would get beat and Stevie had no future with us ( thing you might be from dark side right enough ) . At least come on praise the team and tell Stevie you will give him another chance? No.



21 Feb 2019 20:32:48
I said at the time and i'll say it again, glen kamara will be a terrific signing for us IMO.
I stated when we secured the signings of both kamara and jones, that i was more excited by the kamara signing and said he would be the better signing of the two. I totally stand by my prediction! I truly think that kamara will be a regular starter in our midfield and so he should be. He's strong in the challenge, a very good footballer, wins possession back very quickly and is always looking to play the forward pass! Our best midfield three as far as i'm concerned is jack, kamara and arfield! In his 2 games for us so far, kamara has been very impressive and has stuck out a mile.



22 Feb 2019 00:54:25
That will be kamara hit with the supercoop curse nowšŸ˜©šŸ‘.



22 Feb 2019 07:20:40
Sheldon cooper, was it not only 2 weeks ago you said a 100% that davo, Steven Davis shall be the best midfielder in the Scottish premier league. now he is not even in your midfield.



22 Feb 2019 08:30:16
Last week I had Mccrorie in.



22 Feb 2019 09:26:00
COOps had Mccrorie in.



22 Feb 2019 11:38:56
McCrorie or Jack NOT both, I rate both in there but simply based on McCrorie having more pace I'd start him more often than not, there is certain occasions he will start with thou. Artificial surface, away from home, McCrorie was rested midweek, I would start him on Sunday.



23 Feb 2019 01:09:41
Supercoop, what about the amazing Steve Davis you keep raving about, is he not in your starting 11 ?



21 Feb 2019 20:30:59
Getting away from chat of the songbook, what are peoples thoughts on the increased away allocation for hivs away? After cutting it in the past, feels to me like they have come cap in hand now their fans have realised they are rotten and they have a severance bill to pay for popcorn teeth! i get more of our fans get to see the team but wish the club had told them to ram it. all the ways these clubs try and shoot us down and then come scraping for our money!



23 Feb 2019 00:46:22
I would say thanks but no thanks!



 
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