Rangers Banter Archive February 22 2016

 

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22 Feb 2016 22:15:50
OK guys just a thought is there anyone else that can play right back just now to give tav a rest as the last few games his passing is poor his final ball into box has been poor he's either tired as he's played in every game or he's taking the foot of the gas as he's no competition for his spot. Anyone else agree.



23 Feb 2016 06:22:51
I would put cammy bell on right back. right back in the dressing room and leave him there.



23 Feb 2016 07:55:31
Dom Ball/ Ryan Sinnamon/ Tom Lang/ Darren Brownlie as well I think. They can all play RB but Warbs won't drop him unless he's injured.



23 Feb 2016 08:57:01
Tav gives 100 % and without his goals and Waghorns would we be sitting top of the league.
Best RB we have had in years.



23 Feb 2016 10:07:45
tav will never make an RB in the defensive side of the game
def one of the positions I would strengthen in the summer
unfortunately he is one of MW boys who cam do no wrong.



23 Feb 2016 10:10:44
I think any criticism levelled at either Tav or Wallace is harsh, these two guys have been playing at an extraordinary level all season and yes sure they have dipped slightly in recent games but are still playing at an acceptable level, the problem being that they have set such an incredibly high standard now that it is now expected rather than lauded. there isn't a pair of full backs in this country I would take ahead of these guys.



23 Feb 2016 00:09:35
what i have noticed is he struggles to get back on a counter attack.



23 Feb 2016 13:47:54
That's the way we play mate.
Anyone committed that far up will struggle to get back.
Something we will get punished more with when promoted.



23 Feb 2016 13:53:45
Best right back in years? Two words for you - Richard foster. (Joking)



23 Feb 2016 20:59:23
Scotty, get a grip of yourself pal, they play against wheelie bins and statues most weeks, neither can defend and would be torn apart against a decent team, I honestly thought most people realised this?
Tommy.



22 Feb 2016 22:05:50
Fans favourite ian black lol . spotted playing against man u tonight for shrewsbury town earning rave reviews down there for them in league 1 supposobly but in my eyes mince is mince people.



22 Feb 2016 23:49:46
Have you ever played against Manchester United Davie? Or played for Rangers, Hearts, Inverness, Blackburn Rovers or Scotland? No, Enough said.



23 Feb 2016 06:23:44
Ooooof we have a ian black fan here people. there's always 1 eh.



23 Feb 2016 08:31:40
If you had actually watch Ian black down there at all you would see he is playing well.



23 Feb 2016 09:59:46
You watch him much yourself then, Cee?



23 Feb 2016 10:20:37
Just as my post said he warning rave reviews. but in my eyes mince is mince. read the posts before bumping your gums people.



23 Feb 2016 12:29:07
Rave reviews in the bookies maybe.



23 Feb 2016 13:44:56
Black was never the right signing, and we never deployed him in the right role. At hearts he was a ball winning midfielder (a dirty one at that) and when we signed him all of a sudden much more was expected of him. Instead of breaking up play he was expected to create.

I'm glad it seems to be working out for him at his new club. Some of the hatred towards him is an embarrassment.



23 Feb 2016 17:40:45
That guy hates Rangers with a passion luigi, he was laughing at us paying him that much money. Him and Kevin Kyle both calling us bams for it. I hated every minute of seeing Black especially in a Gers shirt.
The only embarrassment was McCoist for signing him.



23 Feb 2016 21:07:55
Sounezz and davie, if ever I read two post from people who know less about football, then I can't remember, I didn't like black at ibrox, but I played football, and I knew he was being hung out to dry by coistys nonsense and the unbelievable goings on behind the scenes at ibrox, strange that I watched black win, almost singlehandedy the Scottish cup against hubs, and carry hearts for years, ? Strange that his Scottish manager at shrews hold him in the highest regard?, sometimes you have to look at the big picture, when rangers signed I was delighted, we had someone who knew how to fight and win, but coisty managed to eliminate that, strange that we worship our other "dirty players" yet slaughter a guy while forgetting the manager and everyone else performance? Luigi is correct, you two aren't as per
Tommy.



22 Feb 2016 19:06:29
Some facts for those lauding Hibs as the greatest thing since sliced bread. Firstly, we are 8 points clear (9 with goal difference advantage) and points on the board are better than games in hand. Secondly, we are unbeaten in 7 league games and unbeaten this year. We've only conceded 2 goals in these last 7 league games. Add 3 Scottish Cup ties this year and that's 10 games unbeaten.
In Hibs' last 10 league games their scores have been:
2-1, 1-0, 1-1, 1-0, 2-4, 1-0, 1-1, 3-1, 1-0, 0-0.
Rangers last 10 league games:
2-2, 1-2, 4-2, 6-0, 4-1, 2-0, 1-0, 1-0, 1-1, 1-0
I don't think Hibs have exactly been hammering other teams and we beat them 4-2 back in December. I recall a few of Hibs' results were last-minute wins or equalisers. If that's us top of the league by 8 points and playing poorly then God help the rest of the league when we start playing well again!



22 Feb 2016 21:16:29
Well said Doiger. What a difference to read a post from somebody who is prepared to put a positive spin on things. I don't know where this sudden Hibs love fest has come from tbh. Anytime I have seen them this season they have been mince. Somebody even said that they were most impressive at home against Alloa. I know we drew with them last week but we did everything else but win the game. Nobody would have complained had we won 8-0. And yes, points in the bag are always best. Unless some of the negative posters can mount an argument about games in hand building momentum or similar crap.



22 Feb 2016 21:35:22
Next 3 games at home and we will start to pull away. To be honest I feel the guys are playing at 70% ish and can rise to the occasion, aye there's complacency there's a feeling they just want this season over as they have had enough of this league and the crappy grounds, big push on now and we will relax a little, kinda wish we were playing hibs in next few weeks so we could kill them off.



22 Feb 2016 22:02:34
Doiger also look at our games that we just scraped it by a goal. not saying hibs are beilliant or anything but we need to look over our shoulder. could have easily been a draw or even loss against queen of south. i hope we got the league but defo not champions yet.



22 Feb 2016 22:11:36
Doiger, I agree with the basis of your post, but where in the last 10 games do you show Hibs 3-0 v Alloa, on Sunday?



22 Feb 2016 22:45:04
Billyb. Sorry about that omission. However doesn't alter anything! Why focus on that?



23 Feb 2016 00:26:27
I agree Doiger. In reality we would need to loose twice and draw once and them to win every remaining game. Never going to happen. We will finish the 8 points we are above them or more. Every time we have had a little blip in form it's taken us to have one really bad one, like the last game (albeit we still won) and then we've usually had a reaction and destroyed a few teams afterwards.
Also agree with whoever said Tav should be rested, I'd play Ball in there a few games just too give him a rest. He has been outstanding most the season though.



22 Feb 2016 22:30:11
the facts that you've stated doiger are there for all to see mate and I back you to the hilt on this! Rangers are better than hibs as our current league position suggests and we will win the league, we've also got to remember this is only the start as warburton and weir are building imo something special at rangers and have only just started their rebuilding job in june, so doiger and the seeker you guys are like me ie. positive and believe in what our management team are building at our great football club, I'm with you guys



23 Feb 2016 08:14:23
Well said everyone (or nearly everyone! ) . I'd imagine like me you've lived through the bad times and the good times. The first Rangers goalscorer I remember seeing was Max Murray at Dens Park in 1960-ish. Ralph Brand and Jimmy Millar were also about then. I remember too the Celtic 9 in a row years and they were tough to stomach. Then we had our own 9 in a row spell which was magic. Who'd have thought we'd be dumped into the bottom tier of Scottish football thanks mainly to the crooks how are now about to get their just desserts. I've no beef with Ally McCoist. I think he was given a well nigh impossible task and sadly he proved to be an inept coach and manager. We are nearly back at the top and I for one will relish the day when we play Celtic again and stuff them!



23 Feb 2016 10:13:27
Great post DOIGER! everyone is quick to point at how well Hibs are doing and how badly we are playing, reality is that we are winning and even recently when we have slipped up and drawn Hibs have done likewise.



23 Feb 2016 11:07:01
An interesting point I noticed in a similar vein was how it keeps getting mentioned that Hibs are tight at the back and don't let may goals in, wheras we're seen as a bit soft at the back.

Goals against for both teams in the league is exactly the same. Go figure!



23 Feb 2016 11:27:34
I agree that hibs aren't as good as people say. They aren't thrashing teams and are scraping though some, but if you look back we have got away with a few things.

If I recall, start of the season St Mirren could have equalised with a pen which was then skyed over the bar. We went on to win 3-1 but that couldve went either way if that went in. Kings 90th min goal against Falkirk more recently. A bit of luck from Millers beauty at the weekend, and Tavs freekick against Hibs at Ibrox. All these games could have ended as draws or worse. Of course it's impossible to tell how the game would play out in the case of Tav and Millers goals, but hey that's football.

You could argue that teams play completely different when playing us though (I haven't watched any Hibs games to compare how teams setup against them) at the end of the day 3 points is 3 points and I can't wait to get out of this division.



23 Feb 2016 00:13:37
hibs were lucky to draw with livingston, they don't impress me they are on par with dundee utd ( 2 nd class )



23 Feb 2016 14:49:37
Border Ranger: True, but these aspects apply to any game of football, many times we have been on the wrong side of it.



24 Feb 2016 14:51:51
This is the acid test 6 games coming up 5 at home Falkirk away, if get past them I, ll be confident, keep the faith in our team, we are the people let others worry.



22 Feb 2016 11:59:10
So we are approaching the business end of the season not troops. We are starting to go back to what happened in December it feels like, not playing well, not taking chances, top scorer is injured, nicky clark note the answer.

If Hibs win game in hand then only 5 points and 11 games left, we need to get the finger out again! Hibs are looking good, full of confidence, changed half there team and still get the result.

We must pick it up, if we drop points before we play hibs, they will go for the kill at easter road. this is getting to be squeaky bum time, so much riding on this season, we must go up automatically, so Gers players get your finger out.



22 Feb 2016 12:22:53
Any Team that Hibs play against aren't puttin all their players behind the ball mate, any teams we play against u can guarentee they'l leave miby one if lucky up front and the rest all defendin behind the ball, if alloa came out and really tried to attack us we would slaughter them believe me.



22 Feb 2016 13:21:55
I watched both game's and hibs, with a weakened side, were far more impressive. Henderson in particular had a very good game for them. Queens deserved at least a point against us and could have got more on another day.

Interesting comments after game on sky sports where both Boyd and Neil offered opinion that hibs have a stronger squad with more options. I'm not so sure about that- more a case of our manager not exploring other options and tactics.

Boyd as well said he doubted we would get away with our current tactics in spl. Something I do agree with, as better teams will be able to pick us off on break.

Time for the manager to prove himself- he had had loads of praise so far despite achieving absolutely nothing. Teams have got us figured out because we play the same way all the time with little variation. I'm not a football manager and even I could set up a team to frustrate us. At this point of the season we need to be playing effective football- at the moment we are too slow, lack ideas and play far too many simple passes with no imagination. This is not just one or two games here- this has been going on for quite a while now to be written off as a blip.



22 Feb 2016 13:34:10
I agree with you both but he fact remains we were very poor yesterday. Teams parking the bus against us is the norm we have to deal with it Waghorns runs without the ball were a big factor in moving defenders about and creating gaps. We need our front players to move attackingly without the ball so whoever has the ball has optons, way too many sideways and backward passing. Early on O'Halloran made a great direct run at their defence which nearly opened them up but need more of that from him.



22 Feb 2016 12:35:11
there are deeper problems than other teams playing with one up front early season we were getting goals from all over thhe park not so at the minute both fullbacks off the boil along with jason holt law does not appearing to get a game and we seem to have lost the touch second half yesterday we were woeful sitting to deep and giving the ball away warburton needs to bring out the whip and start using it.



22 Feb 2016 14:24:28
Talk about glass half empty man. We won did we not? Hibs have a very big squad and spl standard players they should be beating they teams just like we should but at the end of the day we Are the league leaders, have a manager who imo will prove himself to be a very good one. Some people forget to support the team and are to busy moaning.



22 Feb 2016 15:16:26
Luigi

top class post sir, you are pretty much spot on with the points raised, hibs really do have a strong squad and I personally agree that it is more equipped than our own squad, more experienced players that will handle premiership and they have proven that with their cup runs so far.

cee its not that we are moaning we are stating facts here, this league is far from done and dusted, if wee can continue to win every game including hibs away then we will win the league but if we drop points before easter road and they win their game in hand then it is going to be a tight end to the season and we must avoid that at all costs.

I am praying that we win the league this year because I do not fancy play offs again!



22 Feb 2016 16:57:35
Luigi

Obviously Boyd and Neil looked at the starting 11 and not the match day squad.
On the bench we had Bell, Miller, Shiels, Law, Zelalem, and Forrester.
In my opinion probably the strongest squad we have had for any match this season and Waghorn when he comes back will make it even stronger.
Hibs also have a strong squad admittedly.



22 Feb 2016 17:46:10
Have to dissagree luigi i think hibs have a stronger sqaud overall. when u say teams don't put 11 men behind ball against them. its the possesion play high up the park that why teams play that way against us. hibs have strengh and depth that we dont. were 1 injury away from crisis. i do believe we have enough for title tho. hibs got couple hard away games now where we have couple home games. i think top 2 will get promoted anyhow through play offs. intresting that championship teams outwon priemership teams so far this season.



22 Feb 2016 16:25:04
M3- 5 points is still a pretty healthy gap, wouldn't be pressing the panic button yet, the ball is in our court.



22 Feb 2016 22:42:43
Jesus m3 and luigi you two are seriously depressing we are top of the league for crying out loud I don't care about the performance as much as the result! You really need to stop winging and wait until the season is finished if we don't go up then yes winge but warbs and weir certainly ain't on here so you moaning falls on deaf ears the team is in a great place as compared to the last few years can't you just enjoy it?



23 Feb 2016 13:39:54
What's with people on this site telling me how to feel. Are you guys the thought police or just really intolerant of anyone's opinion that differs from you?

Branding anyone who offers an opinion that things maybe aren't quite as great as some think as negative is really weak- it's the mantra of a fool. Happy to debate things but can't really debate anything with that as a starting point.



23 Feb 2016 15:20:26
I certainly didn't tell you how to feel, I don't mind you having your own opinion, although I don't agree with it, that's your prerogative. I also didn't brand you as negative although you are there is no denying it, just answer me one thing Luigi what would make you happy with how things are at the football club?



23 Feb 2016 15:40:31
This is more of a series of yes/ no questions than debating points for you luigi. Would you prefer to be a team 8 points ahead or 8 points behind with 11 games to play? Would you rather be a team who've conceded the same number of goals as the second placed team but scored circa 30 more goals than them to date in the league or vice versa? Would you rather be the team that's beaten their nearest challengers 3 times and lost once, scoring 12 and conceding 5 during those games or be the opposing team in that regard? Would you rather be the team with three upcoming home league games or have two out of three away games as the chasing team have? Yes, hibs have more players than us but we've used almost our full squad this year attaining the position we are in now and are still clear leaders whilst hibs have predominantly used the same players all season. How does that equate to hibs having a stronger squad just because they rotated and won at home against alloa at the weekend? A poster higher up also listed all the recent results of both teams so I won't go through them again but looking at them explain how we are in poor form and in danger of being overtaken when the form of both teams is almost identical? I'd be a fool to call you negative luigi, you are entitled to your opinion, so I won't, but you'd have to accept you'd need to be a complete imbecile to view any of your comments as positive either. Here's my honest assessment, by the time we actually play hibs the result will be ultimately irrelevant. We will win the league this year. Finally, if we were emotionless on the subject and viewing this as a league our team were not involved in, which of the two above teams would you place a bet on to win the championship?



23 Feb 2016 17:46:49
Luigi: The point is Rangers will adapt their style when they get to the SPL and won't be as gun ho, Warburton will have realised this from the StJ cup game.



24 Feb 2016 15:02:26
Luigi, I agree with most of your post nowadays, I'm saddened by the folk who can't grasp the fact that, while doing well, this rangers team cudnt cope on the top league, not challenge anyway, too many fantasizing that we are great, you know who I mean, they sound like wee boys who don't realise what it takes to win a top title, pathetic some of them, I've seen the best and the worst, mw is doing well compared to ally, but he should, ally cudnt manage and hadn't the cash warbs has had, wages etc, or the support from above, there are some on here, who are in a bubble, I worry that Rangers draw sellik in cup and are destroyed, our beloved fullbacks can't defend, and no, one can shoot, nor can we head a corner
But we, re far better, just not quite as great as some would have us believe
Tommy.



22 Feb 2016 11:32:27
6 arrests were made at the queens game. And from what I heard from fans at the game, it was mostly for refusing to give up their banners. Rather depressing state our game is in.



22 Feb 2016 12:19:22
Just before Miller scored could hear the banned songs being sung again- sounded like more than six fans to me. Stopped with the goal and didn't hear it again.

I wish this group of narrow minded morons would shut up and stop singing songs that do nothing but damage the club. Any decent rangers fan should join me in condemning these idiots.



22 Feb 2016 22:39:53
There was a tug-o-war between fans and police over the big SNP/ SFA banner - and there was a bit of a scuffle at that point.

Whilst I heard the songs I was quite pleased that it was very limited - although it still occurred which is disappointing.

Mind you, the performance wasn't one to encourage much in the way of songs - x-rated or otherwise.



23 Feb 2016 13:51:58
So we have at least four biggots on the site.



22 Feb 2016 09:44:54
Once again nicky clark gets his chance and shows he's not up to the job which is sad because I like the wee man, he's a grafter and gives his all, on to another thing iv noticed Nicky law ain't getting off the bench lately also zelalam, good 3 points also 11 games left plus 4 out of the next 6 are at ibrox.



22 Feb 2016 10:43:09
What about the other 2 forwards that started the game? Did they not take their chance either.



22 Feb 2016 10:50:06
Nicky law isn't getting off the bench because he isn't good enough.



22 Feb 2016 15:31:16
I now its way too early to judge but ohalloran is good at beating a man but found he is wasteful with the end product most of the time. Hopefully there is much more to come from him.



22 Feb 2016 23:24:55
Cee your way off the mark. Law is far more effective than Haliday Zelalem i'd only rate Holt better and everytime he plays we play well and win.



22 Feb 2016 18:07:49
o halloran always seemed to go to the outside not cut in and have pop at goal.



21 Feb 2016 22:55:22
Lets hope we get dundee in the cup and show gary harkins just who this new team is. No one likes us and we just don't care. Good effort tho gary.



22 Feb 2016 08:12:07
Gary Harkins the greenock chip taster.



22 Feb 2016 08:57:54
Strange thing giving a potential opponent a real boost prior to a match. I guess Harkins is still hurting from numerous pumpings during his journeyman's trip through Scottish football. Everyone's talking about the Rangers!



22 Feb 2016 09:32:27
Not bad for a new club to get the back page headlines lol.



22 Feb 2016 09:37:43
Harkins like so many has more hatred for Rangers than love for his "own" club, and I do not mean the second team in Dundee.
Who cares, nobody likes us.



22 Feb 2016 10:49:08
If everyone want to brand us as a new club, they who cares. How many new clubs come from the bottom tier of the Scottish football league to possibly the top tier in 4 years?



22 Feb 2016 14:46:15
Who cares what Harkins has to say- coming out with an obvious wind up is the only way he can get any attention, his football abilities aren't exactly going to get him too much publicity. He embodies the word journeyman.



22 Feb 2016 15:34:19
Harkins is now backtracking big style according to his twitter account. He's now saying it was only a joke. Muppet! Too late now son, it is out there



22 Feb 2016 17:21:02
I may be wrong but didn't Donald R. Findlay Q. C say the same thing and Richard Gough and Dave King and Walter Smith, even the Evening News and Daily Record? etc etc etc, what's the big deal its only words if our own have admitted it why the hell are we getting so annoyed? if we are to berate the likes of Harkins etc then we must ask Gough and co to stand down from their positions as they have been "LYING" to us. If not? its a case of double standards and tinted specs i'm afraid. Move on at the back please nothing to see hear.



22 Feb 2016 20:14:37
Might have known Harkins had a Celtic connection with them as a schoolboy. Since then had 12 clubs in 13 years tells you how good he is.



 
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