Rangers Banter Archive February 22 2014

 

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22 Feb 2014 17:49:38
How long must we suffer watching this c**p, mccoist just has not got it to be good manager, give him till the end of season then make a change.

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Yes Ally credited for selling the season books is now doing his level best to stop people coming. Each home game there are more and more empty seats and who can blame them. The quality of football gets worse and once good players have gone backwards under Ally

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Shipped 3 against part timers? The startin back 4 & keeper on over 30k a week.

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Send him back tae a question on sport I have been telling every one for long enough he has not got it

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@4 doubt they would take him back probably want too much money! Agree though being captain on question of sport was his limit

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@2 your right about the 22 out of 24 however Ally has needed £7m in wages to do that while the teams we are competing against had a budget 70 times less and their players have other jobs. Once you see it that way then his record doesn't really look so good

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Stewie who else could we have signed for the leagues?

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Ffs I wish everyone would stop quoting ally's record. my dug could pick the team!and for the record the other 2 are not any better.

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{Ed039's Note - I think Snowys Dug is picking the team)

Woof woof grr

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@7 I am sure there are plenty of players who could do a similar job on much less wages. What was the logic in signing players like Cribari, Smith, Foster & Simonsen? There were players in the championship that would have done a job for us in the bottom 2 divisions of the league, some good young players play at Falkirk and we had some good young players that can't get near the squad as Ally prefers journeymen players

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Ed039:I know we can laugh but where do we go from here. we have a manager who as a player is a flipping legend but as a manager is clueless. we have a team of players going through the motions with the exception of 1 or 2 and we have a board who are running the club into the abyss. at times I feel like chucking it. however we have had all the good times we have to stick with through the bad. watp

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@8, spot on. We have major problem, keep Ally on playing this complete dross and we will be lucky to continue with half current crowd,

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Getting boring Stevie, would they players clubs let them come for nowt? Doubt it

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@9 the reason ally signed supposed tried and tested players is rangers football club hasn't the ability to develope young boys like say a Dundee utd. come to think of it like ANY club. its not all ally's fault. the problem lies within the whole setup. after liquidation I thought we would have used Dundee utd as a model. but oh no. we spend like weans in a sweetie shop to win 2 leagues of part timers. we are reaping what we sowed.

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It was an opportunity missed to bring in one or two of the youth players, especially one at centre back but the manager went for experience.

Experience of what, I don't know.

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@12 not as boring as the rubbish we are currently suffering but as each week goes by less people are watching it

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23 Feb 2014 09:39:33
Decided to stay up overnight and take in the youth cup quarter final today hope the pitch holds up it should with the lack of football played on it, really lookin forward to seeing the young bears in action, thought I might have seen young halkett or luca yesterday instead we get cribari allys so called experienced option if I was as inept at my job as the Brazilian my p45 would be waiting for me when I get back any goodluck this afternoon lads show ally what he is lacking in the first team. W. a. t. p. Bluebear

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No Johncass your the one getting boring with your backing of ally,

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Ed039:I know we can laugh but where do we go from here. we have a manager who as a player is a flipping legend but as a manager is clueless. we have a team of players going through the motions with the exception of 1 or 2 and we have a board who are running the club into the abyss. at times I feel like chucking it. however we have had all the good times we have to stick with through the bad. watp

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{Ed039's Note - Stability and better management are a must, on the youth development side, on the first team, in the boardroom)

Ed Snowy's dug would not pick Cribari- BigCols dug yes! - but on a positive side great header from big Jon Daly. Not the most mobile player ever but he has earned his corn in my opinion. So well done Ally on picking him up, great touch for a big yin. Might be costing more than we can afford but he would be one of the experienced pros I would keep in the team for his touch, link up and goals

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@ Ed I forgot to mention Big Jon's touch. I was that annoyed at Bigcol's dug's team selection I may have forgotten to mention Big Jon's touch

Aye yir right am taking this too far but thanks for the laugh bigcol/ed

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{Ed039's Note - Aye NBear ........... too far)

At sweep an stewie am asking who could we have signed for free, I am aware there is some good players at Falkirk, but they cost money Fs, your quick enough to say this and that shouldn't have been signed, well back it up with who should have been signed?

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Glad we have still a sense of humour in all this!ma dug fur manager of the year

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Why sign Foster when McAusland would have done a better job? Why sign Smith when we could have signed Robertson from Queens Park? Why sign Simonsen when Gallagher would have done the job? Why sign Peralta and play him wide when McKay would have been better. Each season a list is produced of players out of contract at the end of the season and unfortunately for these players it's getting bigger each season. Didn't fall out with the signings of Law, Daly, Clark or Mohsni. Ally has wasted wages on 4 unnecessary signings when the answer was staring him in the face. You can't mean to tell me that Black with his wages wasn't a bad signing, Cribari has been a disaster yet once again he plays in front of Halkett and Gasperatto. Templeton and Shiels were good players yet they like many others have went backwards since signing

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Mcausland tell me how did he do at Ayr? Gallacher was getting first team football at airdrie, is that not better for him than sitting on the bench at ibrox?again mckay is getting first team football is he missed? Halkett an gasparatto should and hopefully will get an opportunity, a would say black is a good player. Templeton went backwards? Would disagree there, shiels has been good for considering game time he's had this season.

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Cribari is the only defender that won't header a ball maybe he forgets he has got a head

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@24 McAusland would do just as well as Foster so why spend wages on a player we don't need. Gallagher only played with Airdrie for the first part of the season so any good that came of that has vanished now that he is spending the 2nd half back at the club not even near the first team. Yet we are paying wages to 3 keepers when we don't need 3. McKay looked really good last season and played well in a lot of games. He at least is a winger when it's clear Peralta isn't so why waste a wage on a player we don't need. Do we need Smith either a player who has been injury prone for years now, with no sell on value and no longterm future. Black a good player! your joking unless your definition of a good player is someone who passes the ball sideways and can't shoot. Templeton by his own admission has struggled and hasn't performed they way he did while at Hearts. U seem to be unaware of the financial situation at the club and the fact that there is no money left. Ally has wasted millions on duds with no sell on value and no longterm. How many of our players were sought after during the transfer window? Only Wallace and Law. Why? because the other teams won't pay the kind of wages we have to duds

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22 Feb 2014 03:07:24
sorted our club ain't going into admin 2 wallace has spoke to mccoist ally agrees they ain't a chance off it happening so all us fans can now sleep hapily without worrying about our club ally has backed the statement so it must be a certainy not to happen now like all the other ones he has backed looked what happend there why can our manager not just say no comment when asked about stuff like this other managers seem to swerve it if current board can only get 1.5 million investment then time to go I think they should outline there investment plan if they expect the fans to keep paying then they better think again

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What other managers swerve it? He's asking fans to back the board and why not? Let's face it, the board ain't going no where, why don't you start boycotting games or has that already started?

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O. P some of us will keep paying. Not because we support Super Ally or the board but because the club is an emotional tie that cannot be broken. We may not like the football we see we may not like the board or understand micro never mind macro strategies they plan or propose but the club is in our DNA and we cannot do anything about it.
I will pay my season ticket money again next year and every year I can afford it because I was a bear before I was actually born and will be one until I snuff it.
I may not think the manager should be the manager and may not agree with his team selections but I will still go though the ground to support the team.
I will often be bored to tears with the dross on display and may post about this because having paid my money and paid with my time I am entitled to my opinion.
I will often dispair at fellow rangers fans who refuse to admit to Super Ally's weakness's but I will continue to support my team even though there is little about the players on the park the management or the board I like or agree with.
But it is because I am a real fan and will always support the team in blue on the park- even when they are crap

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Craig,

What do you actually expect a manager to say?
I give people the benefit of the doubt, a bit like innocent until proven guilty. Until GW does something to warrant criticism then it is normal to take him on his word.
Ally backed CW and CG until they acted against Rangers interests, then he didn't back them. Do you think he has a crystal ball or do you think he should just assume every CEO is a lying spiv?

If you are angry about events at Rangers, do not take it out on your own.

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@ Johncass " He's asking the fans to back the board and why not"

1) he fully endorsed Whyte
2) he asked us to back green and we did ( now we need a crisis loan)
3) he fully endorsed Mathers

Ally asked us to back the above mentioned for over 800,000 reasons now he wants us to back this board for 400,000 reasons.

we are all well aware what these reasons are they are £, s going into allys already bloated bank account,

i will always back Rangers but i'm not blinded by loyalty to it employees.

im Rangers till I die

not Ally till I die, Walter till I die, or any other Manager or Player that has the privilege of being associated with our great club past present or future.

i pass by the grave of one of our greatest founders Moses McNeil daily and I swear I can here him turning in it


Rangers Till I Die

Lochaber Bear

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Hey op is your name not really Captain Mannering. If McCoist states an opinion he is slated, if the guy was to say no comment he is slated. I am no fan of our manager but mate please get down to Argyll Street and buy some of that Inca music on CD and calm down.

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What does it take to get through to some people there won't be administration boycotts ain't going to help anything the only way to gget rid of smokey and the bandits is to support g wallace the club let him make the nec savings turn the whole thing round there will be plenty of investment if financial results are and other owners will turn up better still all supporters group rally round start buying shares rather than bleat about spivs out boycotts dave king whoever everybody has to realise the only way to get rid of smokey & co is to buy their shares when the ho hah with green was going on he said give me £14 million u can have them agreements could have been made by every one to buy so many at a time instesd white knights blue knights whoever have only suceeded in costing the club a fortune for what I will tell u absolutely nothing if what has been spent by the club and everyone else on legal fees etc some of the shares could have been bought and what annoys me most is the fact the biggest loser is not smokey &co. nor white knights//blue knights the biggest loser is rangers and until everyone pulls together that's the way it will continue if this chance is missed to get us back to where we should be it will be shameful

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@4

Well ally is only human like the rest of us, he wasn't the only one to back Craig whyte, it wasn't ally who gave him a hero's reception outside ibrox, look were we are now, through him.

Did you see through whyte from the start?

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The Rangers board at the time saw through Whtye and I am sure they would have had discussions with McCoist about it

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Is ally getting the blame for Craig whyte?

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Look I am not a fan of allys far from it but in the position rangers were in if hsd not backed green it would been a case of no season tickets sold the ship would have sunk before it sailed whyte at first did some things that were ok he got davis macgregor and one ot 2 others to extend there conyracts then ally took over at the hrlm fae walter first europe went down the tube then naismith got injured at aberdeen ally had no plan b 16 pt lead gone and the rest is history as I say don't blame him for backing green/whyte but I blame him totally for the mince served up week in week out the only man that can sort it is g wallace and we mst give him a chance he will know how things should be rub so as for now its all down to him to get on with it

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Ally maybe human but he is earning a whole lot more than the rest of us humans who contribute to pay him next question who are the dafties easy us humans

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Yeah give wallace his chance, he's not a chancer with a crooked past, IMO he will do his very best for rangers, and also give the board a chance, as Wallace was their appointment, what have they done to deserve the spivs out? Is it because dave king is floating about? If king wants rangers, he should offer them a price, then we would see what the board and king are made of.

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@ 10 agreed and have just spent the 10 minutes or so required to fill in the club's questionnaire. At the end you can fill in your contact details. Some of the spaces where you can enter your gripes look small and if your an old windbag like me I can report that you can go on beyond the apparent box- odd that -sorry Sammy
@4 LB can I just point out that Moses McNeil with the other 3 (4 actually) pioneers were from Argyll and not nasty Invernesshire but otherwise I agree with your post 100%

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{Ed039's Note - Whats wrong with being from/living in Invernesshire?)

Real worry is why just £1.5m, given rumours we out of cash, can't pay redundancy money and this ammount just the ammount to fudn and admin?

need clear need x for reason yyy.

not 120days reveiw, and opps halfway thru we need more cash and can't get it from anywhere but our shareholders. who have not put money into club per se, but into shares. to pay spivs more

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Ah well now Doougie sorry Ed that's because you are an inn-come-er.
If you go to McTavishes kItchen for 3 fish and chips you would probably ask for 3 fish suppers whereas a West Coast Highlander would ask for two fish suppers and anotherone.
Actually I wasn't aware of this apparent deadly rivalry until I signed in to a massively overpriced B and B in Arisaig and was told I was welcome even though I was from North Argyll.
I'd ask the local historian but she's deid.

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{Ed039's Note - Lmao, McTavishes Kitchen was long gone before I moved to Fort William, and in its place another bloody hotel was built)

 
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