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22 Feb 2012 23:36:19
Alistair Johnstone was right all along about Whyte he does have the best interests of Rangers at heart, he tried to alert us all about him.
Ryzabear
SABWA
BBC had best interests aswell, but every time anyone questioned whyte the so called REAL fans didn't want to know.
22 Feb 2012 23:29:33
What's red White and blue and soon to be hanging up outside ibrox? A sign saying "New Tesco opening soon"
22 Feb 2012 23:26:36
Just been scrolling through the posts to catch up and i cant believe some of the nonsense on here.Lots of posts slagging the Rangers Tax Case blog,nonsense about potential buyers and some people even trying to defend the vile singing at ibrox on saturday. Do you not realise that instead of adopting a "we are the people" attitude and checking some facts this might have been avoided.The tax case blog has been very accurate and informed,check it you will be amazed! Celtic fans have been all over this mess,but still some berks give it the timmy nonsense.Well timmy knew what was happening at your club before you did,hows that feel?
22 Feb 2012 23:25:21
I smell jobbie !! Just been told by Craig Whyte that he had a deal in principal with arsenal to sell Steven Naismith for 9 million in the summer. He was then going to offer hmrc 900000 to clear the tax bill, spend 8 million in the summer on a new identity for himself and the rest on finding the biggest rock to climb under!!!
22 Feb 2012 23:19:34
Apparently the Krankies are interested in investing in Rangers. McCoist seemed a bit of unsure of the offer, but said he'd certainly consider them putting them up front for the next game!
Lennon looks like that wee jimmy krankie PaulRFC
Probably better than what we have...
22 Feb 2012 23:06:59
Breaking News. Daily Record reveals another huge unpaid bill. This time they have trace it to the canteen at Ibrokes.. Administrators are questioning Fat Ally. Lol 20 points and counting. Bigirishmac.
Bigirishmac do u know what they say about bigmen here in scotland, al tell u don't know if it is the same in the emerald isle but in this country it is, bigmen awe talk, wee men awe cock & your patter is what comes out of a cock pure pish
NTYABOW
What's wrong is it that time of the month for ya? Aye I see what your like alright. Let a crook take over your so call beloved club and let the worst manager in rangers history pull the wool over your eyes saying it's all Craig Legend WHYTEs fault. Fat Ally was out of Europe, out of the cup and drop a 15 point lead before the shxt hit the fan. Us irish men have a saying to. Our Day Will Come. Bigirishmac Poland here we come.
Nothing wrong with me am just saying your patter is pish & usually people who say they are big men on computers are just wee fannies & your not irish either & why are you emigrating 2 poland away & do a riverdance like a wee lassie
NTYABOW
As ed will tell you by my Ip address am Irish to the core. There's a wee football tournament coming up Poland called the Euros not that you would know anything about that. Who is it you support Northern Ireland, Scotland or England. Go and blow your flute. That's my nick name big mac you plank my mates call me that. You would think a smart guy like you would of know Craig WHYTE wasn't a Billionaire.... Yeah seen to know everything else. Oh al be dancing alright. Looks like al be dancing for many years to come........ Up the celts bigirishmac.
22 Feb 2012 22:31:49
20 points behind Celtic
3 in front of Motherwell
We welcome the chase !
Lenny
Lenny what do u mean "we welcome the chase " i didnt know u played with celtic dont u mean celtic welcome the chase yes celtic have won the league
this year and probably next year too but i think for most rangers fans is the survival of the club not the league title but if rangers win the league title its a bonus
rangers 54 league titles
Celtic 42 league titles
rangers welcome the chase
22 Feb 2012 22:25:46
Ed all this stuff about fans donating money,is it not illegal for fans to donate money or whip round direclty to club,and would it be subject to tax {Ed001's Note - nothing illegal in it, but it would be subject to taxation.}
Mind the chasm Lmfao. MMI2009
22 Feb 2012 22:21:03
Celtic performance tonite reminisant of barca pure class,
Aye and the blind asylum were the opposition
Ffs catch a grip ya zoomer.barca? yer strolling spl yer not even on same planet as barca
Haha dream on timmy....you beat the bottom SPL team 2-0 and you're comparing your footie to the best team in Europe. What a load of bull, mind you the best laugh i've had in a while. Cheers.
Ha ha ha enjoy ur head in the clouds while it lasts. craig+babybear jelly nah. sundea sounds good ill take a helicopter with that
Barca and celtic should not be in same sentence, anyway this is a rangers site couldn't give q monkeys about u lot.
Calm doon hen!! you's were playing dunfermline!
Celtic Fans - deluded since 1888....
You been playing fifa2012 on your x box ya crank?
BFH
22 Feb 2012 22:20:32
Not a rumour but an opinion just get a rich Arab
Not many rich Dundee Utd fans.
Why not get a billionaire from motherwell?
We tried that and found out he only had £1.
Probably found the £1 aswell or robbed his granny for her pension
Heid RTID
If it was that easy more clubs wood have done it
22 Feb 2012 22:20:22
Why would anyone want to buy rangers just now, surely it makes more sense to wait to here the outcome of the tax case.
Think the same but what happens we lose and whyte sinks us, craig+babybear
22 Feb 2012 22:07:24
Just pledged, c,mon lets get this moving, Total so far is over 2500 people, Lets see how many will support the cause.
500 may be a high starting point if you can only afford less than this i'm sure i would be greatly received, it's only at the note of interest stage so show your support if you can.
BR
If u scroll doon the page u can enter any amount come on people lets go
I've pledged £90 million:D
taco
Craig whyte pledged a pound.
22 Feb 2012 21:53:46
Why would anyone want to buy rangers just now, surely they will wait to here the outcome of the tax case??
Maybe an interested buyer or a few could get hmrc to make their decision earlyer and move things on .
Oh aye, HMRC are going to do that.
HMRC have nothing to do with the result. Its an independant tribunal
22 Feb 2012 21:53:40
Gers could see three years with no cash flow....
Derry City have been refused entry into next season’s Europa League competition by Uefa. The European football governing body has taken the decision because the club went into liquidation just over two years ago. That led to a European ban for three years and this is the final year of the Candystripes’ suspension. Derry would have been guaranteed at least 110,000 Euros for playing in the competition.The re-formed club, with support from the FAI, asked for the rule to be relaxed but Uefa refused to relent. An application argued that the club was a new entity, and as such was entitled to apply for a licence. The Association will consult with the club regarding the matter and both parties will study the decision in the coming days. Should no appeal of this decision be made to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS), Bohemian FC will be nominated for UEFA competition in place of Derry City FC. Derry finished third in last year’s Airtricity League Premier Division.
Derry City went into liquidation before that as well, and they shouldn't be allowed into Europe anyway, in my opinion.
They left the Northern Irish League (where Londonderry is remember) in Northern Ireland, and joined the FAI in the Republic of Ireland (Where Londonderry isn't) this also puts to bed the arguement about Rangers not being allowed to play in England if their country has a professional League......ehhh! so whats this then, and Derry simply jumped ship.
You mean Derry, without the London?
22 Feb 2012 21:52:31
can someone tell me how that scumbag can sell part of our history and not one director on his board objected to the sale(arsenal shares) im sickened by the lily livered guardians of our club over the last few years none of whom sem to have had the spine to stand up to the thief CW and the ego SDM to safeguard their privileged positions on the board of our great club, but some of whom now have the audacity to put themselves forward to takeover. i have said here before and i hope many of you will agree if ANY of the previous board are elected again or even allowed within ibrox i will not be back i cant believe what these cretins have done to OUR club. so many questions and not any answers forthcoming.
The Rangers’ April 2011 Financial Report (prepared on 18 May for Whyte just after the takeover) put forward the possibility to Whyte of selling the Arsenal shares.
Given the date of 18th May it's highly likely, almost certain, that this was put forward to Whyte by the old board.
This is one where the old board may have to shoulder part of the blame.
22 Feb 2012 21:51:21
How what benefits do Scotland get from the union? Seriously please list some.
Eaxactly mate, im a rangers fan, but im all for independence... all ournoil money will stay in scotland
Its a known fact that scotland subsadises the rest of the uk, and dont let the uk government tell you any diffrent, they say we are stronger together, what they actually mean is that they need our money asengland will be a poorer country
Don't wanna burst bubbles but all oil was sold to the Scandinavians year ago so no oil money for Scotland
Willie
Dont want this site to start going political ,will leave that to the dhims, but your right mate the only thing union ever done for us was treat us like a backwater and use us as guinea pigs for poll tax(remember the misery that caused) i do believe we would be better off independent.
Aye very good.....idiots, this country is free because of the Union, nothing to do with being a Rangers fan or any fan, if you are happy to live in the Republic of then im lost for words.....look at the loss of life on both sides, because of the very same situation in N.Ireland......this isnt a political page, but if you don't know the benefits of remaining part of the United Kingdom, then you need to see the doctor....
The English would suffer, no natural resources down there (can't think of any), we still have deep sea gas/oil fields yet to be tapped. Personally, keep the Union.
The oil was not sold to scandinavians! but they estimate 15 years left of our oil. we also make lots through water, fish and whiskey.
Why is Salmond on here? Independence wouldn't work, how big should our army be? What currency would we use, Osborne suggests we wouldn't be allowed the pound. If we do then we can't set our own interest rates, what elsee take the euro, the currency that is on the verge of collapse, and one other thing the north sea oil ownership would be disputed in a court, it will also run out by 2050 so what do we do after that? A future of alternating SNP and Labour governments, no thanks.
GovanFR
Govan fr, get your facts straight before you post, sounds like you listned to all the scaremongering uk government lies
The english would be entitled to a great deal of natural gas in the North Sea so yo say there's no natural resources shows your ignorance.
I don't know the benefits of the union, that's why I asked, can you tell me and save me a trip to the doctors, Rangers need to wake up, we have lost our identity, we are based in Glasgow scotland, let's be Glasgow rangers and be proud of who we are.
Govan fr, get your facts straight before you post, sounds like you listned to all the scaremongering uk government lies
I noticed you haven't actually pointed out anything I said that is untrue. Simply because it is all true. Brainwashed by Salmond.
GovanFR
22 Feb 2012 21:50:40
We as fans must step up and pledge funds we can all talk the talk but we must do more than that but why start at £500 if we want all fans on board it must start lower every penny counts
I pledged 200
You dont know who this money ur pledgin is actualy going to
What if the saverangers site was started by Craig Whyte and you are all giving him more money?Not a dig,just hope someone has checked it out.
Jungle Bhoy.
22 Feb 2012 21:45:49
My first rangers game was 1994 with my brother and dad and I remember that like it was yesterday. I remember my dad missing the only goal because me and my bro wanted a pie (we won 1-0 against st mirren). When I think of rangers I remember more than football, I remember my family, my rangers brother and the great times iv had. No matter how this pans out, if we're in the third division, we go to the wall, I will always be rangers and that's what makes us special. Come rain or shine we will support our team. I am so proud of the support our fans have given recently it has utterly knocked me back. No matter what Celtic supports/dalie record/bbc say I will remain proud of my team until the end and beyond! Keep the faith guy's, u love the club and the club loves u to.
Peace out
Craigiebaby bear58
Same with me. The Rangers are more than a club. My late Grandpa and my late dear Dad loved the Rangers and now my 12 year son is falling in love too. Its heartbreaking to see our beloved club suffering so much but Im certain good times are nearer than
Many of us think, so lets stay strong in the days ahead. GTM
Ah Cragie - just think in a few years time you'll be fondly remembering the team that used to be, the team you used to support.
I remember my first Rangers game.I couldn't believe the noise,the singing and the joy of a win at the end.It really was a hard game,sometimes backs to the wall and defending like mad but i was so proud to say "I was there,i had seen a tremendous performance by the boys."To this day it is still a vivid memory.
God Bless You Adrian Sprott + The Accies.
Jungle Bhoy
(P.S. I really was there.)
Great post
Me too I was three years old crapped myself the noise riding the orange underground from partick to iibrox everyone singing the old songs guys drunk doing up my itchy real wool gers scarf pating me on head
Then seeing rangers MILES in distance I was at rear of main stand we beat Morton 2-0 BAXTER played that day
I was mostly terrified of all the noise and shouting and swearing but I STILL REMEMBER IT LIKE YESTERDAY
Bought the programme that one and my next game 5-3 against Killie and Colin Stien my hero as a kid scored a hat trick one a diving header again 1065 im sure BUT THATS WHY I NOW LOVE RANGERS and though im in London (see wee rangers now QPR) I have pledged £1k today on that site www.saverangers.com and mailed ALL my old pals to do the same even £100
250000 at Manchester YOU know we can do this if we get a leader like person ter or Park RANGERS IS IN THE LITTLE KID PART OF MY HEART LIKE CHRISTMAS AND MY YOUNGER BIRTHDAYS and I know all you true bears feel the same
I hope this stired som memories (davie coops goal , the 4-4 when we were both s**te new firm years THE "-" draw butch n macavenie n woods off with con ductor Roberts ... GAZZAs year and yellow carding ref
THESE ARE JUST A FRACTION OF THE GREAT DAYS mind the helicopter ? the Arteta penalty final game 6-1 THE MOST EXCITED IVE EVER BEEN IN A SPORTING SENSE
THESE MEMORIES MEAN I FOR ONE CANT LIVE WITHOUT RANGERS JUST BEING THERE EVEN THOUGH I CANT TRAVEL UP ANYMORE
George Notting Hill Bear SMILIES LADS IT WILL WORK OUT
Whyte **** off you ANIMAL
22 Feb 2012 21:43:30
HOT OF THE PRESS!!
Micky Carroll (the lotto lout) is rumoured to be down to his last £1 and not sure if he should buy another lottery ticket or just buy Rangers Football Club and run it into the ground....
The lotto lout would probably me more honest than craigy boy.
mr. carroll, can you tell us where the money went?
- aye, easy, i spent it on drugs, booze and tarts pal. not a penny wasted. we are the people.hah. a person and his money are easily parted.
22 Feb 2012 21:33:33
I previously ripped the rumour about Richy Branson, I've just read the update from the dude at the airport, if I'm wrong then ill need one large drink just to calm down before starting another 20 to celebrate.
22 Feb 2012 21:27:32
What a difference a week makes , now we're not talking about liquidation and the end of our club, but people queing up to buy/invest in us,even administrators have said things are positive, the futures bright, the futures not WHYTE !
Whos lining up to buy you? You mugs are so gullable its un real! Dont you get it? It was all spin from craig whyte... Now its all spin from craig whytes chosen administraitors... Wise up your going to be liquidated of that there is no doubt.
Where and when did the administrators say things were looking positive? in the same dream you woke up next to cheryl cole?
Yes, that's right, you're talking about it.
22 Feb 2012 20:52:32
That Craig Whyte wants a toe n the baws! lol
Miko x
22 Feb 2012 21:13:59
Celtic fan coming in peace ! but i have a genuine question. Rangers were £18m in debt to lloyds. White has cleared the debt by selling a club asset, namely 60% of the season tickets for the next 4 years. What is the problem. Dont get me wrong, i think White is as dodgy as they come, but he has cleared the debt to the bank and he must be confident he will win the tax case otherwise i am sure he would not have become a guarantor for the millions Rangers may be due. I dont understand why all the uproar about selling the tickets. Good business if you ask me. I appreciate there may be limited funds for a while for the team but thats better than liquidation which i dont believe will happen. Am i missing something?
Its 3 years season tickets not 4 he is scum
If it's 100,000 tickets over 3 years and not 4, then that's more money Rangers have to give to Ticketus each year for the next 3 seasons.
That actually makes the position worse.
How is he confident he will win the tax case he has done a runner
22 Feb 2012 21:02:38
Getting sick to the teeth of this corrupt country , they tell us we are nothing special then continue to make special consideration of everything we do, Dundee motherwell airdrie all paid a reduced rate on tax 6p in the pound in the case of Dundee, but when it comes to the special case of rangers we should pay 100 pence in the pound why are we classed as special case , singing a total joke we use a word in a song which everyone else uses but we get investigated why when we hear every week poison spewed off other stands why only us , another club says were not special they don't need. What's the solution give them what they want, give them a league without rangers, give them none of our so called bad words hurting there feelings when we visit there grounds, get the f*** out of this country's football go down to England, start in the conferance gaurentee we would rise quickly and say in seven years time they are all going to small grounds winning 22 nothing and our buses will be going down to the likes of arsenal and Liverpool and before they say we cant ,we enter a team in the bottom league play our home games at ibrox ie like Cardiff and Swansea did. Tell them to stick there league up there ass, they won't miss us so they can't try and stop us
Boo hoo hoo....dry your eyes ffs!
everyone's against us, why us?, it's their fault, we arra peepel!
get it round ye!
taco
Corrupt. like not handing over tax and NI deducted from staffs wages?. thats what i call corrupt. we are the corrupt people. uuuhm, i forgot what you used to post here . . . something like mind the gap?
Boo Hoo Hoo....dry your eyes you say.
Refs against us, SFA against us, Establishment against us..It's a conspiracy etc blah blah blah.
short memories eh...
That's exactly what you lot are spouting...so what's your point?
btw, lets not forget that people were sacked and forced to resign because they had been found out to be cheating, or having a pro-rangers bias ;)
taco
I,m saying you've got a short memory...Again with the Pro Rangers bias rubbish..has that chip not fallen off your shoulders yet?
Well, all i can say is that these referees and sfa chief executive certainly didn't get sacked for being anti-rangers
and oh, it's only rubbish according to you lot.....for everyone else, it's as plain to see
taco
22 Feb 2012 20:34:48
Awful quiet on the Timothy front tonight boys they must be pretending their at the game...no doubt they'll be on the back of ten with their pipe dreams of been there! PaulRFC
LOL
BB
Boo!
Miko x
Yahoo wer back garlar07
22 Feb 2012 20:32:30
Dazzabhoy, never in my life have I been on the Celtic page. There was a point in time when some imposter started posting on my behalf, which only goes to show Celtic fans are obsessed with rangers and there fans. At that point in time I was advised by an ed to put a code in the email section of the post to identify myself.
I reiterate, I have never been on the Celtic page nor will I go on. I'm concerned with one club and one club only. The famous Glasgow rangers.
Now, jog on.
Oranjeboom
You mean infamous!
Miko x
An imposter my arse son!
Why would someone impersonate you when you don't have to leave a name!
20 point gap now bears!
DazzaBhoy {Ed001's Note - there was an imposter, that is why Oranjeboom always leaves an identifier in the email field now. Timalloy had a similar issue as well.}
What do you mean a code oranje ? Would you then be relying on the ed removing your code so I wouldn't get posted? Wonder if the ed would do that... Coz if every post had a code they guy (or girl) would be editing all nite! PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - he just identifies himself by putting an identifier in the email field of the posting form.}
Agree 100% they have a very unhealthy obsession with us,you would think they would be happy with the state we are in,and not bother with us just shows tho win lose or draw we always seem to annoy them.
Dazza give it rest for the day ya pure banger! It's no your day the day so just get the heed doon son! PaulRFC
Thank you ed001, you do a sterling job.
Oranjeboom {Ed001's Note - cheers mate, that's appreciated.}
Look at the likes/dislikes on this thread and it shows you the amount of Celtic fans on this page. Get a life guys! I've never been on the Celtic page and never will.
22 Feb 2012 20:26:59
Why is there an obsession with another sugar daddy? Dave King, Tom Hunter, Jim McColl, Douglas Park and now Richard Branson FFS!!
All of these men have one thing in common with Murray, they are wealthy because they have profitable, successful businesses. Look at the nick of Rangers now? Murray poured plenty of cash in but it wasn't his own - NTL, ENIC, Dave King, £50m from Murray Holdings to clear the last debt, and then the EBTs on top of that!
Rich men do not flush their hard earned cash down the bog and there is no point pumping tens of millions into a Scottish Football team as the return is not there. Rich oil barons are common in the English Premiership but there is a valuable product there.
Big fan or not, these guys are not stupid.
Rangers need to follow the Celtic model, float on the Stock Market, become a PLC with majority of shares owned by fans with the odd super fan for a bit of clout (Desmond has 29% of Celtic, doesn't put a lot in and doesn't want any more, if he accrues more than this he needs to make an offer for the whole club and he ain't that daft).
Fan ownership and running under its own steam with its cloth cut to suit is the only way.
Agree just pledged to saverangers
22 Feb 2012 20:14:37
The biggest threat to any potential buyer is Craig Whyte Lies statement that if we win tax case HMRC will "appeal appeal appeal"
Is there anything else to prove this or is it more smoke and mirrors by him to put off potential buyers?
BFH
Good point... I'd like to no if they really did say that aswell or was it a Craig whyte "quote". PaulRFC
He said it but how would he know? We will know soon about the big case and I believe 2 options
1) we win, 1000's of other companies have a big sigh of relief. Case finished.
2) we lose and cut a deal.
Whyte Lie has only said that as he knows the door is open now for any potential buyer to come forward and he doesn't really want that. He wants major shareholding if we win as he would have a very saleable company.
You can't cut a deal if you lose. You cut a deal BEFORE the verdict. If you went to the HMRC before this and said lets make a deal, they might listen. But if the verdict is that you must pay, why would the HMRC turn around and say, "oh don't give us that much, a fiver'll do"
GoldCoastBhoy
22 Feb 2012 19:54:27
Dear sir/maddam,
This is as radical an idea as you will hear from a true ranger and BRIT, but I'm sure you will agree that if Rangers die, then a part of all of us will also die.
Q. What do we have to counter the HMRC tax case as fans? A. Not a lot (accept people power). Q2. How do we scare the HMRC? A2. We threaten them with 'INDEPENDENCE' (The government is terrified of this as it will lose potentially £1 TRILLION in oil revenues over the next 40 years if we get independence)......a lot less than £75m.
My proposal is simple. We as a movement (ALL GERS FANS), guarantee that if the HMRC shuts us down that we will all vote for independence, thus rendering independence inevitable. A £TRILLION would make them think,NO?
No.daft idea.
I would rather sort out a plan with hmrc and pay what we owe ,not sure bout the ebts though , independance is an snp pipe dream , come on lets get serious here , ur proposal is as bad as whytes do u not think enough people are laughing at us... p.s scare hmrc i think whyte already tried that one aswell.... craig+babybear
WTF are you talking about. I will vote NO for independence. Not for your silly reason but due to what's better for my family, life, wealth, Health so on. What a stupid post by a Rangers fan.
BBear13
What drugs are you on you plank when are you going to wake up.
What a pl0nker.
You need to stop buzzing glue before you start posting on here mate
Lol funniest yet,you dont pay your taxes so whats the loss?
Will the union bears have to change their name?
What an idiot scotland was here long before rangers stop clutching at white elephants
Blackmail you mean
What a load of utter bull,how many rangers fans actually want to see the break up of the union?as a taxpayer why should me and others have to pay and sit by and watch rangers try and wriggle out of what they owe?
I will NEVER vote for INDEPENDENCE, UNIONIST to the day I die.
You mean you'd break your allegiance to the Crown ? First you dont pay tax to Her Majesty's Treasury, then you threaten to vote for independence ? Not very loyal is it ?
Great idea, you should create an epetition stating your idea here is a link for you to get started
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/
once you make it, put a link to it on here and across all rangers forums etc.. contact the rst they will help you... w.a.t.p jsm
Great idea, to the poster above who said that it is a daft idea, how so, explain ??
22 Feb 2012 19:42:56
my opinion only -
Whyte is NOT and NEVER has been a blue nose.
If you loved something or someone so much, how could you deceive, cheat, lie, rob and undermine something so precious to you ?
He has been on a mission but exactly WHAT kind of mission ?
I shudder to think what he's trying to do to us.
Don't know ask his ex wife to be she,s divorcing him maybe that's why he needs to make as much money out of rangers to pay her of.
22 Feb 2012 19:32:20
ed how do people buy shares in rangers as i would like to buy shares
campbell {Ed001's Note - you can't at the moment mate. You would need an account with a stockbroker, I believe, to do so when they are being traded. If you really want more info on it, reply to this and I will get Ed033 to explain better, he has some experience of trading shares. Personally I have never been in a position to afford to trade!}
Saverangers.com u can't invest yet but its a start m8
Aye OK ed i would like to find out a bit more
campbell {Ed033's Note - You can buy shares through your bank but they charge a lot of commission. The cheapest share brokers maybe The Share Centre (share.com) charges 1% commission (min £7.50) and TD Waterhouse tddirectinvesting.co.uk £12.50 per trade. The shares are held in electronic form.}
Couldn't even buy before administration as Whyte had suspended trading on stock market.
Campbell - if it's any help there is the website saverangers.com where you can register your intent to invest in RFC.
It is supported by the Rangers Supporters Assembly, The Rangers Trust and the The Rangers Supporters Association.
Iam legend.
Try spiers & jeffery,glasgow city centre,its a stockbrokers,keep your money in scotland,ie some english firm getting the commission
Try Mortimer and Duke.
Jungle Bhoy.
22 Feb 2012 19:24:38
Wish you guys would get grip on reality the club won't get bought by a billionaire business man or a big global company! Why would they? Whats in it for them? Scottish football was/is in a state of decline before all this started so where is their return going to come from? Brand awareness?- not worth it up here . Why didn't these big companies buy epl clubs when they where up for sale when it's a bigger and better league with a global audience! The best to hope for is a consortium of wealthy business men who support the club. So please hang fire with your crackpot rumours and get real
Your right no-namer, it wont be billionaire territory thats for sure. Unless the papers twist it into a story. One step at a time starting with Whyte out then get the debts sorted. CheltBlue
So why does Dermont bother with your club then?
To the above poster, that shut them up didn't it lolol, watp
22 Feb 2012 19:11:05
can someone please tell me why rangers are being hauled into the dock AGAIN by SFA for singing yet other clubs get away with it time and time again ...what happened to the investigation into celtic fans signing hee haw thats what ...i agree the singing at ibrox is appauling and should be stopped but by no means are we the only ones that should be looked at ..
Coz we sang songs that aint allowed
Because it's Celtic and they cried that much last season, they can do whatever they want on the pitch and off it. Been obvious all season.
The reason is, your songs are sectarian, Celtics arent (as has been ruled many times in court)
taco
Celtic don't sing songs that have been banned by courts for being sectarian
taco
At this time Rangers are an easy target mate.Agree has to stop no need for it.Know where you are coming from listened to the bile coming out of Easter Road on Saturday.Refs running scared to put in their reports in case they upset the great offended.
Dont deflect ,any decent bear on hear will tell you that the bigots were back at the singing in the last game
22 Feb 2012 19:09:40
Right people here is a link to the website that has been set up to see how much can be raised by the fans to save our great footballing institution.
https://www.saverangers.com/
A lot of people have been talking about this and claimed that they would put money in to have a fan buyout of the club and tbh I think it is the only way that we are going to get out this mess and keep our history intact. Also I dont know about you but I dont want anything that has happened at Rangers to ever happen again. This website is NOT taking payments at the moment, it has been set up to give a rough idea of how much can be raised. So anyone serious about investing in the club should register with this website and pass the details on to all bears that you know who have spoke about this sort of scheme. We cannot let our history be wiped, we will be back stronger because WATP!!
Seen this type of thing before. Everyone registers and squillions are coming in. Then when the people who registered are asked for the money they don't keep their committment.
This is wishfull thinking - a complete waste of time.
Cheers mate do you know when they will start taking payments because am up for helping out
campbell
Lowest amount is 500 gbp... i hope when they do set this up that the minimum amount can be lowered so that people with less money can get in on it to .. jsm
Sound ma man do they take scrap? I've got a wee business in glesga, going round skips with a shopping trolly collecting bits of cable etc and business is booming so I will help out my beloved rangers
There is an option to enter a lower amount.
You can put less than 500 in, go to other and type in what u can put in...
If you scroll down the page m8 you can enter any amount you can or willing to donate.dont see time scale.
To the 3rd comment down, you can enter any amount you want. There is a drop down menu with enter amount option on it.
22 Feb 2012 19:09:30
Agent Whyte your mission is complete please return to base (parkheed)
Agent Hector and Agent Lizzie are still in the field.
Agent Sir David return to base.
22 Feb 2012 19:05:45
Maybe missing something here by why do Rangers not have a fixture this midweek but Celtic and that do?
Cause the mighty hoops have part one of the treble to play for!
Its to do wae that cup final Celtic are in , you know the wan Falkirk knocked yez oot lol .
Because Celtic are on for the treble and playing in the League Cup Final in a few weeks, so the game sheduled for that day is being played tonight.
Thank you for your question.
Coz they can't afford to turn on the floodlights."...."DH
Celtic are in league cup final, god u really like pain wanting another fixture the way we are playing, I'm glad we ain't playing.
Couldnt afford it- simples
Coz were in a cup final..oh wait a minute and you ain't
22 Feb 2012 18:45:06
i think some people on here just think of well known business men and write any old guff ..im surprised alan sugar or the dragons on dragons den havnt been mentioned ..lol ....but in my opinion things will get better and im sure someone will come in and take us forward ..there is money to be made from rangers if its run the correct way and tap into potential new revenue possibilities ......bigt
Wrong! There is no money to be made there's money to survive
22 Feb 2012 18:43:38
just a thought-
Since Ally is obviously a diehard Rangers man, the new owners could give him a non exec seat on the board when they take over ( whoever they may be )
That way he could keep his ties with the club, but allow us to bring in a coach who KNOWS what he's doing. Ally will NEVER be a good coach, and from the evidence I have seen, Durrant and McDowell are no hopes too and need to be moved out.
Their record is there to see -
out of Europe TWICE this season
out of Scottish cups TWICE this season
Allowing for games in hand we lost a 9 point lead and are now 7 points behind ( plus the 10 point penalty )
we signed several players, most of whom are NOT the right standard
Any other club in the UK and abroad would consider that lot are abject failure and they would all hve got their marching orders.
They may all be blue noses, and nice guys, but they are NOT up to it. God help us if Lennon can do it .....enough said
All the dragons are tied up at moment, married or going out with septic fans
22 Feb 2012 18:28:44
Dave King can't leave South Africa, they took his passport away whilst they investigate him for tax evasion! Also why would he plow more money into rankers, he put in £20m and has f*ck all to show for it!
DazzaBhoy
You sure about that Dazza? There is a video of him in Glasgow.
Yeh dazzler what a spud you are, watch the telly
Dazza do a bit of homework before you post your drivel for a start watch tonight's BBC news . Video of king in Glasgow today, or has he fooled everyone and sent a body double because he cant get out of south Africa. Usual Timothy crap
Look below nugget, i admitted i was wrong!
No-one has answered why would he pour more money into rankers when he has already put in £20m? Was he not kicked off the board by Whyte anyway? If not was he there cause he is a director? Was he not found guilty of tax evasion, maybe he's there to advise on the tax case!
Mind the gap!
DazzaBhoy
54 to 42 thats the only gap u shd worry about mate
T-Bear
Dazzabhoy - what does rangerstaxcase.com say about it?.
Iam Legend
U feeling a little bit silly now
Dazzbhoy,
Who said he was putting more into Rangers, not one person, think your paranoia getting the better of you again, for all you know it could have been a routine meeting.
22 Feb 2012 18:24:17
Rangers fans being investigated for sectarian singing at Kilmarnock game. As if the club's situation wasn't bad enough, why do these knuckle draggers have to associate themselves with the club.
Bang on - i was at the and took my wee one for her first game - totally ruined by these morons.
you would think that we are already under intense public scrutiny - this is the last thing we need.
ryanrfc
I agree its totally bad news for us but what was sung at that idiot brines has prob been what has got us in the spotlight! worst ref performance ive seen haha
FauldsRFC
22 Feb 2012 18:23:44
How can white sell Arsenal shares, surely administrators should have blocked this or was this done in the quiet before administration, if so very low act, the man has no shame, how can he dare to call himself a rangers man.
22 Feb 2012 18:23:08
Why would the hmrc want to listen to the dribble that comes out Whyte mouth he has been talking crap from the day he walked in to ibrox ... Kenny the prod
22 Feb 2012 18:18:10
WHYTE sold OUR season tickets. Is it true that if we didn't renew next year and just paid in at the gate, the club would have control of the cash?
22 Feb 2012 18:15:26
To all the Celtic supporters who are having a great time at the moment,and all the blame that is being laid at the door of Rangers FC firstly any honest supporter of Rangers FC will admit that the club is going to have to find a way of paying back debts to various sources,but lets stop saying that Rangers FC are to blame all the time when in truth Rangers FC will be held accountable but it is due to two people in the main SDM and CW.
Well aware that in the case of SDM other directors
may have been aware of EBT but in truth SDM would as the major share holder had the final say if this procedure was adopted or not,and in the case of CW it is clear that others had no idea what he was up to because simply put he is a CON MAN so by all means while the punishment has to be accepted by the club which includes us as the supporters it the two previous Chairman that have caused this issue NO ONE ELSE and it is to be hoped that after the numerous investigations that will take place that both of these individuals are held to account if at all possible.
22 Feb 2012 17:29:45
Hi ed not been on since this morn some people really talk s**t Branson king thought king was kicked off the board last week . Hopefully he is hear sort this sorry mess out ed any news on this clown Whyte ... Kenny the prod {Ed001's Note - nothing concrete, it is all just rumours surrounding his whereabouts.}
All executive board members since EBT's began to be used are to blame in some way or another. there use would have to be sanctioned at board level and i dont remember any directors coming out and objecting to the use of EBT's when the club introduced the use of them. as for the 9m PAYE and VAT debt its a case of take your pick and you wont be wrong as it is the duty of EVERY company director to ensure thes monies are paid on time every time.
billyboy
WATP.
22 Feb 2012 17:26:32
why an uproar about whytie boy selling the gunners shares.you all say you would do anything/contribute monies,to save your club,so if he done it to get money back into the club to keep it ticking over(think its currently costing £100,000 a day),whats the problem?artybhoy
You're clearly not aware of the full story artybhoy and this is what makes it really bad.
The money from the sale of the shares was not paid to Ramgers, it was paid to one of Whyte's companies Pritchard Stockbrokers.
Seperate to that transaction, Pritchard Stockbrokers assets have been frozen by the Financial Services Authority, after discovering they were using client money to cover their own costs.
If he had put his money where is mouth is the club would not needed to sell any shares bb.blue
Wouldnt have minded if the money went to rangers but he put it into one of his other businesses the rat bag
22 Feb 2012 17:18:09
Just spotted this
www.saverangers.com
Supported by the RST
22 Feb 2012 17:03:15
At the rangers hospitality lounge Ally McCoist asked Billy McNeil, "how do you think the current rangers team would fare against the 1967 Lisbon lions?" Billy replied "it would be a close run thing, maybe a draw". Ally walks away all pleased with himself until billy shouts over "mind you, we haven't trained in 30 years"
DazzaBhoy
Like your post about Dave King p!sh
Iam Legend
Billy McNeil is probably still in better shape than Kris commons.
Banter son!
DazzaBhoy
22 Feb 2012 16:49:26
Nonsense administrators decide and Inverness money not due to them until about ten days after the game has been played
Who are you replying too?
22 Feb 2012 16:48:58
Looking at the maths behind the Ticketus deal is quite shocking.
Whyte sold 100,000 advance season books for £24.4m, inclusive of VAT, which works out at a sale price of £244 per book.
What is the average price of a season book at Ibrox, somewhere around £450 - £500.
Whyte has sold these books of at more than a 50% discount.
Ticketus will now sell these books in future seasons at face value and make a huge profit.
Some of the season tickets was sold was youth season tickets which i believe cost around around £100.
He sold 60% of the tickets not all of them
Diesel
Its called business mate & if it was'nt ticketus what other long queues of companies were waitting in the wings?
EXACTLY.
desperate times call for desperate measures marty
Diesel - if he had sold all of them then Rangers would have no income from these season tickets for the next 4 seasons.
Marty - Whyte structured his takeover in such a way that he invested only £1 to purchase Rangers and for that investment he now has a floating charge over Rangers assets as the preferred creditor in the sum of £18m.
Rangers have now sold 100,000 future season books, with no cash from the £24.4m sale coming into the club.
Rangers will have to make payment to Ticketus from future season books sales at an amount totalling circa £40m +.
That is not business Marty, as Rangers do not benefit from this deal.
The only person who benefits is Whyte.
So when you make pathetic statements like you have done, try to think things through.
22 Feb 2012 16:43:20
can the legal eagles tell me how it is possible to do something in the name of Rangers BEFORE you actually own the club ?
How could Whyte do anything with Ticketus if he DIDN'T own us at the time ?
Surely this clearly is fraud .
I would love to buy a new house and get the current owners to give me the money to buy it with ? I don't think so.
Surely Ticketus themselves should have spotted that this stunk to the heavens ?
Your missing the point.
Ticketus agreed to deposit £24.4m in Whyte's solicitors client bank account prior to Whyte taking control of Rangers.
There was no agreement between Ticketus and Rangers at this time.
Whyte did not have direct access to the monet at this time.
Whyte was simply using this money in his solicitor's bank account as proof of funding that he could pay off the Lloyds debt of £18m.
Once Whyte took control of the club he then did the deal with Ticketus and the money would have been transfered to Whyte allowing him to pay off Lloyds.
If he never acquired Rangers, then the money could be returned by his solicitor to Ticketus, without Whyte ever having direct access to it.
There would be little risk in Ticketus doing the deal in this way, as Whyte wouldn't have the money until after the season ticket deal was done. The benefit to Ticketus was if Whyte did acquire Rangers then they knew Whyte would do a deal to sell 4 seaspns worth of season books.
Never know mate, what if whyte and murray agreed months or weeks before whyte being officially the new rangers owner and that's how he managed to feck bout with ticketus and using our name . (LOYAL BEAR) “WE DON'T DO WALKING AWAY“
22 Feb 2012 16:24:37
about time the champions league gave the spl 2 spots in the qualies every year.....that way if either club failed its their fault....
They r 2 in next season n wont be us do some people live on the moon ??
TB
22 Feb 2012 15:58:33
I own a few business's in and around Glasgow, I don't really support and Glasgow team, but as a business man NO one will buy rangers until the big tax is over. In this current day and age no one will pay 30million or whatever the figure is for something u could get in a few months for fraction of the price.
22 Feb 2012 15:40:40
Average day of a Celtic fan.
Better get oot ma bed and find out what's happenin with th gers.
Tea break, great can find out what's happenin wie the gers.
Lunch time, no comin oot gona trawl the internet and find out what's happenin wie the gers.
Dinner time, I'll be down for ma tea in a minute just seein what's happenin wie the gers.
Coming to bed in a minute love, just seein what's happenin wie the gers.
Repeat, repeat and repeat some more. You k.ow you ate all closet rangers fans, why else would you have the gers on the brain.
Oranjeboom.
And why are you commenting about Celtic. Pot, kettle and black springs to mind.
Ate all the closet rangers fans? you getting a bit excited there?
That's the funniest post I've seen in a while! PaulRFC
What a lot of sh1t orange, we're glued to SSN/papers as your mob are in such a mess it's laughable! I have read more papers, and listened to more podcasts this year than any other year.
Where is Craig Whyte? What did he do with the money? Is it David Murray's fault? Is fat sally up to the job? Why did he sell your shares in Arsenal?
Your club is quickly becoming an embarrassment!
DazzaBhoy
You forgot one thing, Drink Buckie
The reason I comment my good man is there appears to be an abundance of Celtic fans continually stalking this page spreading doom and gloom. Just wonder why they are not more interested in their own team you nitwit. And as for mister spell check, well where do you start. It's easy to go through life pointing out others mistakes. At least have the decency to leave a name you degenerate.
Oranjeboom
Do you not get out PaulRFC
Oranjeboom, you missed out, " ahm no goin' tae the Sellick game the nite, I'm trawlin' the net tae check oan the Rangers "..............OOOooops, " ah never go tae the Sellick games, i only trawl the net tae check oan the Rangers "... AGer63
Oranje i seem to remember you being on the Celtic rumours page quite a bit in september/october!
DazzaBhoy
You forgot Teatime : Administrone soup followed by Haddock in Whyte sauce washed down wiv a Pepsi Tax then Jelly and Ice Cream.......DH
Dazzabhoy - you know nothing - you told us Dave king could not leave Sth Africa, they took his passport away so they did!
Iam Legend
Who is this sellik fan you talk of Oranjeboom? I don't know any that work...
BB
PMSFL
oranje that was best i seen in a while
22 Feb 2012 15:46:38
Just backing up the last rumour also just been just been texted from source inside Ibrox
that Dave King had meeting with
Ally McCoist after administrators
meeting 100% true
Could be just a routine meeting with admin, time will tell.
Yeah its right footage of both leaving Ibrox due to appear on bbc website soon.Shaun H
Dave King can't leave South Africa, they took his passport away whilst they investigate him for tax evasion! Also why would he plow more money into rankers, he put in £20m and has f*ck all to show for it!
DazzaBhoy
If Dave king passport was taken off from him, how did he get to Glasgow.
Stop Press! Stop Press -
Naw seriously stop press, Dazzabhoy says Dave King cannae leave Sth Africa.
That bloke with Ally cannae be Dave King Dazzabhoy says so!
"On Wednesday, South African-based businessman Mr King and Mr McCoist left the stadium before travelling away in a car together. The nature of the meeting with the administrators is not yet known.
A Rangers spokesman told STV News: "Mr King met members of the administration team today to discuss the general situation the club is in and his continuing obligations as a director while the club is in administration."
Classic. aha ha ha ha ha ha
Iam Legend
Well said dazza coz he was there with pics to prove
To the person who posted that dave king cant leave south africa you are wrong check your facts,he has been seen leaving ibrox this afternoon with ally,with both then getting into allys car and driving away so dont post drivel
He is CLEARLY in Scotland, seen leaving Ibrox with McCoist, so he must have retrieved his passport. Go and watch yer team and leave us alone !!
He was at ibrox on ssn dazzabhoy ur doing well arent u hah typical not got a clue stick to ur own team
TB
I admit i was wrong with my first point, put refer to my second!
DazzaBhoy
Well says it all Dazzabhoy still in South Africa is he? There's the proof if we ever needed it the Dhims just come on here spouting complete p**h and expect us to take them at there word.how sad a wee life yous must lead.
22 Feb 2012 15:09:26
Tweet from BBC
Chris McLaughlin@BBCchrismclaugAlly McCoist emerges from Ibrox with Dave King #Rangers
Whits the two ae thaem an item ur sumthin they wur probably paintin aw the seats that belanged tae ticketus green so's naebidy wid sit oan thum,
that means hauf ae ibrux is decked oot in sellik colurs the othir hauf is the celtic end anywaey
hee haw
22 Feb 2012 15:33:03
Anybody else still think we are going to come out of this in a better state than we went in.
In the words of big marv " keep believing "
The future is bright, the future is Oranjeboom.
Oranjeboom
No think your deluded.
If you know anything about business, then you'll know the answer to your question is a categorical NO.
This will stick to our club for years
and i mean years .
and i fear there is more to come and it will be even worse than we have already been told
WG
We will be better off debt wise if it goes to plan but dont expect a team winning silver we couldnt compete with celtic even though they lose money- but they have large backing, things can change in football fast
stg
If you know anything about business, then you'll know the answer to your question is a categorical NO.
Actually the business answer is yes, it removes the uncertainty.
22 Feb 2012 14:47:45
Ed did hicks/gillette an the glaziers do it different to whyte when they used liverpools an man utd assets to help fund their takeovers. That previous post says you'll get the jail doing that. PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - no, they did it in a very similar way, it is not illegal, though it should be.}
22 Feb 2012 14:45:55
Seen posted on here a couple of times about Celtic changing their name and titles being taken from them. This is straight from companies house website.
Celtic Plc
Company No: SC003487
Inc Date: 12 Apr 1897
Annual Returns: 31 Dec 2011
Annual Accounts: 30 Jun 2011
Company Type: Old Public Limited Company
Website: celticfc.net
Registered AddressCeltic Park,
Glasgow,
G40 3RE ,
United Kingdom
Registered Tel: 01415514282
Hopefully this should end that one.
Ian(For every £1 Celtic spend Rangers will pay their creditors 10p)
It's been ended move on
It was 94 it changed no 2011
Pacific Shelf 595 Ltd changed to Celtic Football and Athletic Club in 11/10/94.
Celtic FC Ltd. was incorporated in 24/09/01 having changed from HMS (402) Ltd in 17/01/02.
Celtic PLC was 12/04/87.
Pretty much the same Directors.
What do these companies do?
Iam Legend
Cant do the time then dont commit the crime!!
22 Feb 2012 14:38:59
Hi Ed,
What do you think the chances are of Rangers being stripped of any trophies etc if they are found guilty in the big tax case?
It seems to me that the Tims and especially Neil Lemmon are clutching at straws over this. Rangers didn't use any back-hand tactics to win these titles, they were won the park. Also, we didn't win the league every season the EBT's were being used, therefore Rangers didn't exactly benefit from this as much at the Tims think.
I get the impression that the Tims want the rules changed just to suit their needs, resulting in any punishment possible for Rangers.
TTG {Ed001's Note - it is highly unlikely that any titles will get stripped over it.}
If Rangers are found guilty then they did use back handed tactics. They used an illegal method to pay players millions of pounds that they otherwise wouldn't have been able to do.
Without these players Rangers would have had a weakened team and the odds on them wining anything would be considerably less.
Of course they should be stripped of any trophies won.
In athletics, if an athlete uses drugs to enhance their performance they are stripped of any titles.
It's the same principle, Rangers cheated to enhance their performance.
If this was not the case, then why did they do it.
Im a Celtic fan but i really dont think uz should be stripped of any titles. Then ones in questions are 03 and 05. In both those seasons Celtic had the league in their hands and threw it away. I do think uz shud be punished for the way uz have mis-managed and I feel the sale of ur best players in the summer and no european football next season is punishment. There are alot of bitter Celtic fans out there that simpy want Rangers to disappear but they are just blinded by hatred and are not looking at the bigger picture.
Drew
Rangers cheated but it would be unfair on the players if they didn't know to strip titles from them, I will ask you a question if it was Celtic who were found guilty of this would you want their titles stripped I'd say you would.
Really Timmy, are you really that bitter about Rangers, how sad you are.
Its gone lads, we are getting punished now!
stg
That would be totally hilarious if that happenned! Bring it on!!!
22 Feb 2012 14:34:29
Open letter to all Rangers Buisness men.
Sir Tom Hunter.Jim Mccoll. Donald Park.+many many more could yous not set aside your Buisness rivalry and get together to get our great club out the hands off this idiot.Between the lot of yous would be a drop in the ocean.set up a trust where the ordinary fans help out.hundreds of thousands would give if set up right.Before any smart a*s Dhims come on here with their {Murray} tried it the ordinary fans never got a chance only the share holders.
You have 26000 shareholders! give it up with the same three names
Don't think any of these guys read on here, plus these guys are successful business man because they don't touch unsuccessful business like rangers.
Ordinary fans did get the chance and did not take up the offer.
And if you're going to write an open letter to these businessmen understand that the plural of "you" is "you" and not "yous".
22 Feb 2012 14:31:41
Whyte sold our season tickets. What would happen if we didn't buy any next year . We just paid at the gate. That way the club controls the cash.
I posted that question last week.
They would still get the money.
Never going to happen. Don't you think Ticketus will have dealt with preventing such a scenario in the agreement.
They would still want lump sums every year! Lump sums you won't have unless you buy your season!
DazzaBhoy
22 Feb 2012 13:52:23
Regarding mr Whytes scandalous selling of the Arsenal shares that Rangers held.This has been let loose to the press for one reason,to discredit Whyte even more.The facts are that the old board were contemplating selling these shares,and indeed they were listed in the takeover document as an asset(a nice little earner in whyte speak) The dirty war has started,Paul Murray has the sympathy and backing of the press and rangers fans need to be wary of falling into the same trap again.Remember the press worshipped at David Murrays table and always painted a picture that was coloured by Murray,this is one of the reasons Rangers are in such a mess.
Correct, the old board reported the potential for selling these shares to Whyte on 18 May 2011.
Your spot on. Only the fans can and should own Glasgow Rangers.
GDog
WATP
22 Feb 2012 13:50:51
congrads to the under 17s beating celtic in the cup ...well done young bears u r our future... craig+babybear
Well done boys
Iam Legend
Yeah well done to them, if only the big team could emulate them!
DazzaBhoy
Wasnt it just a qualifier from a group?now we play each other again in the final?
They are the big team now!
stg
DazzaBhoy, what sh**e are you spouting. You've won nothing yet and until any trophies are in the broom cupboard at breeeblock towers go to your own site and feel free to spout all day long. Congratulations where it is due I think.
I did congratulate them. Difference being we CAN win the treble son, what exactly can you's win?
See you on March the 25th when we win the league!
DazzaBhoy
22 Feb 2012 13:50:11
this prob wont gt posted on main page but cn ppl correct me if am wrong cast your mind back tillast year b4 cw rode into town , werent rangers 30 m in debt when murray was runnin the club and alister johnston was chairman ? didnt rangers pay loydds a good 7 m to reduce debt ie the money from the champions league n uefa cup run , i cant remember the figures but we were in profit then? how can it go fron turnin a profit to running a lossin such a small period of time in the mean time repeatadley slashin the wage bill? this maybe one that ed cn clear up for me? {Ed001's Note - that is one of those questions that need to be asked of the club, where has the money gone?}
Surely youv'e answered your own question in that during the euro run & champ league thats where the money was made! when your not in it its debt time ! thats why celtic & rangers always strive to be in there as its the only way they can make pure profit or at least reduce any existing debt, otherwise guys we're ALL treading water, n sooner or later our wee legs get tired BIG TIME ,n poss sink ,taxi fur nemo?
wee pat
22 Feb 2012 13:47:15
Rangers fans should simply boycott tickets from ticketus as the money would not go to Rangers.
Instead, pay at the gate.
I would imagine that a: ticketus would have preference over any season tickets being sold ie thiers would be sold first, and even if no one bought season tickets the seats still belong to ticketus, so the monies would probably go to them anyway even if they are being filled from gate reciepts. Plus ticketus are not the baddies here, that would be Whyte and Murray for allowing this in the first place.
That is the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard, dont even know where to begin with that.
Drew
How would you know which tickets were ticketus n the other rangers anyway it would probably be a clause that would say that the first xyz ....tickets go to ticketus then the rest....
pat
Ticketus own the seats be it via season book or pay at gate
so it wont matter how you pay
WG
22 Feb 2012 13:24:26
haha the guy who said 'my mate works for duff & phelps' superb next you'll be saying Craig Whyte doesnt have an overdraft
If you saw an add on gumtree sayin " car for sale blah blah blah .
contact craig whyte on 0141 1690 5151
would you call him?
wee pat
22 Feb 2012 13:13:03
Can anyone confirm if Murry Park is
an asset of Rangers or is still owned
by SDM. There seems to be conflicting
information on this
That's a good question alot ofpeople on here think it's Murray but newsnite an Jim traynor think it's whyte. PaulRFC
It is still owned by Murray and leased to Rangers.
Any player who comes through Murray Park and plays 10 first team games also results in a payment being made to David Murray.
22 Feb 2012 13:01:51
The latest story today about our shares in Arsenal have finally broken me.
I was prepared to believe Whyte. I was bitter against the previous board because the truth be told they could not be trusted either. Johnston, Bain and P Murray for me are weak, they got comfortable without Murray around and they too took advantage of all of us.
WE HAVE ALL BEEN DONE! Sold out, abused even.
GLASGOW RANGERS HAS BEEN STOLEN FROM US ALL!
I'm not lying to you now when I say I am close to tears as I write this. The papers today are the last straw for me. We had a long long relationship with Arsenal and they returned our gesture with a gift of shares. Whyte has tossed that aside on a whim, without a care or a thought for you or me. No discussion no plan made together in how we take us all forward.
No; instead 1 man has systematically broken down our club and embarrassed us all. His ignorance has almost destroyed us.
And we still have the taxman.
Today I feel really sick for the first time because I think this is all becoming real now.
I feel like a fool, I have been on here shouting down at many of you demanding we all be positive and that the previous board and SDM were the real problem. I still believe they have a lot to answer for however Whyte has started a completely different objective and indeed argument.
WE NEED OUR CLUB BACK!
GDog
WATP
Tragic mate it really is.... To him it was pound signs to real fans like you an me (an the rest of the good lads who want us IF found guilty to take our punishment an pain for the sake of the club we love not fold like a p!ss poor pack of cards)it was part of our identity... Keep the chin up big man we will get through this! PaulRFC
Think you are taking things a little too seriously if you are close to tears over a game of football. There is not much you can do, let it run its course. No worries.
GDog
i was aghast when i heard that about Arsenal offer
the man has no morals
Lubo25
The story about the shares was news to me.Probably public knowledge within the Gers fans circle but i never knew about the tie in with Arsenal.Im curious tho,do Gers have shares in other clubs too?
Jungle Bhoy.
To the guy who says GDog is taking it too seriously, my wife said that too !! My answer to the missus was simple, " I met them before I met you " It's more than a club to all Rangers fans, except you m8 ! People have put their heart and sole into following Rangers and we are being taken to the cleaners and feel helpless right now, so who the f**k are you to tell us to get a life ? AGer63
Gdog - yeah my dad told us stories about RFC and AFC and am no youngster.
Gone. Piece of history gone.
Fair do's the Administrators would have seen the shares and maybe viewed them as money, but that is their job.
Sadly it's happened Gdog nobody can do anything about getting them back.
But what is more important to RFC is that the likes of you - the lifeline of the club, stays with it.
We'll get the wee basa.
Iam Legend
GDog do not beat yourself up with this there is only 1 man 2 blame for all of this & it is SDM, he is the man who sold 2 cw,when souness brought him on board everything was fine in the beginning as celtic had no money at all, brian dempsey in the paper confirming the other week they were moments from closing as we know, we on the other hand were signing players & I used 2 go 2 my work & the first thing I done was ask the celtic fans who we had signed that morning, as you never knew we were about 2 sign any1, a press conference was called & no 1 could believe some of the signings,so then the wee bunnet took over celtic & a real business man put SDM & his titanic size ego in it's place, we know what happened 2 the the titanic the guy who designed it said it couldn't sink aye right thats what SDM told HUGH ADAM about 10 years ago, so even though lloyds forced through the sale only 1 man put us in this position, even though we could well win the big tax case this is the man who put us at risk with this, celtic were offered this scheme & declined, also remember SDM put us in 80 mill in debt before & offered us a wonderful shares issue 2 clear the debts he racked up & when we seen through his scheme, he kindly underwrote it 2 the tune of 50 mill now some1 on here today asking what happened 2 money from the season we got 2 uefa final my estimation we made about 40 mill that season remember we also sold alan hutton that season, well I may have a over ticking brain but do you really think SDM did underwrite it answers on a postcard please, so as I say do not be down on yourself ther is alot of good people out there who will not let RANGERS go 2 the wall & as BIG MARV said on saturday again KEEP BELIEVING, Lubo 25 cheers for auld davie story
NTYABOW
All good post lads from mostly the usual people.
I love this club if it disappeared ( big IF ) Then I know I wouldn't be the only one in tears. Earlier the thought was in my head and it was almost overwhelming.
I do believe we will be back, however I am just totally disgusted by the lies of one man.
And I am certain our relationship with Arsenal will remain even if the shares are gone.
All the best to you lads the next few weeks are going to be hard.
GDog
WATP
Gdog we all are loyal to our club and will defend it to the end. Its not our fault the leadership has let us down. I myself have called for sanity and patience but how could we know that we basically had a crook in charge. Yes the dhims will say "we told you" but they would say anything to get a rise out of us. Its a terrible situation and I wouldnt wish it on anyone, not even Celtic. Whyte Out Now. CheltBlue
22 Feb 2012 12:27:53
Let me see if this is correct, please add opinion if you think I am wrong.
Lloyds bank want their cash back, 18m.
Large tax case looms.
Murray can't afford it.
Murray puts club on market.
Whyte turns up with cash.
Lloyds panick as they know about tax case.
Lloyds tell Murray to sell club or they will withdraw overdraft.
Whyte buys club.
Unbeknownst to gers fans season ticket sales used as takeover cash.
Debt paid off.
Tax wrangle continues.
Administration.
Debt free club with cva to creditors.
The only point I make is that it sounds good to me. If whyte had come out and told us this from the start and said he would take 20% of the sell on fee and invest the rest in rangers ot would have probably been ok.
One problem, ur not gonna get a CVA from HMRC. They clearly want all their money otherwise they wudnt have applied to put uz into admin themselves. Get ur head out the sand and start accepting the trouble ur club is in. Pathetic!
Drew
I agree I want the Gers back on a sound footing ASAP as I cannie stand the Mhanks winning or their whining but to be honest I'm not happy at all with the thought of not paying taxes. Needs to be sorted. However, I cannot understand how Whyte was able to sell the season ticket revenue BEFORE he owned the club? How could he, without inside help...? The man is at it, but I suspect, in time this will unfold in some very suprising ways
BB
That is all well and good and perfectly leagal however I am sure I read somewhere that if a CVA is set up it will not include the big tax case.
Ian(For every £1 Celtic spend Rangers will pay their creditors 10p)
Drew my good man. If HMRC weren't going to negotiate it would have been a winding up order. Get the green tinted specs off.
22 Feb 2012 12:25:45
well everything that craig(lying b@st@rd)whyte has said has been verbal diohrea. He has taken every rangers fan for an absolute mug and i hope he gets his comuppance. You have to wonder how he thot he would get away with it?! I just cant believe he is stil claiming to be a rangers fan....absolutly not a chance a fan of our club would have done this to us. Iv heard he's a motherwell fan and it seems they will take our place in champs league. He must be laughing his @rse off at us!
Verbal DIARRHOEA is a tollerance associated with the Sellick fans infesting this page, maybe Whyte is indeed one of THEM !! AGer63
22 Feb 2012 12:24:46
i want you all to know i treat these pages as what they are meant to be BANTER PAGES .there is a lot of people on here who are talking a lot of sense about whats going on at your club The Pilot NTYABOW Paulrfc GDog to name but a few, guys with the club future at heart. i run my own company and just before xmas i paid for four of my employees with the there partners for a corporate day at a game at ibrox as a thanks for there work during the year. auld davie 62 years old and in his words wont eat a lion bar as he says its like eating sawdust with chocolate on it lol i love nothing more than hearing his stories about jim baxter john greig willie henderson and his hero sandy jardine .so i sorted out via a few phone calls that he got to meet sandy jardine on that day at ibrox and i was told he was in tears after meeting him.i have dealt with people like walter smith ally mccoist and john greig during charity nights and every one of them total gentlemen and it was a pleasure meeting them. so just make things clear i enjoy banter but hate i have none. and as auld davie said to me a week ago and it has stuck with me .his words if taking a few years pain saves 140 years history then give me the pain.im sure you will agree with him
Lubo25
Well said, im sure every fan would take a few years pain if we came out on an even keel only problem is that lying little rat whyte looks like he is trying to bury us, craig+babybear
Fair play Lubo mate... Don't be so hard on yourself mhan your banters no that bad! PaulRFC
Craig+babybear
another auld davie classic was
i asked him what he thought of Mr Whyte
he replied
fathier im not a violent man but i'd put him up against a wall and hammer nails into everypart of his body
i said jebus chirst davie
as quick as a flash his come back was
NAH fathier they only put three in him
Lubo25
Lubo25 - well said.
Old Davie sums it up.
I'll take the pain.
Iam Legend
Well said Lubo25
nice gesture to your workers and auld davie he sounds like an auld character
WG
22 Feb 2012 12:24:16
Cab someone explain to me why Craig Whyte was legally allowed to borrow money against a business that he was not an owner or even a board member?
Surely question marks must surround this loan of £24m from ticketus.
I cant go and borrow £20k against ma best mates house, just because I may purchase the property in a months time, so why can whyte do it with Rangers?
I would say that in my opinion ticketus are owed £24m from Craig Whyte, not Rangers.....
If your mate gave you a legally binding letter you might be able to.now,who could have given whyte a legally binding letter? hmmm......perhaps a man who was desperate to sell?...........green jhedi
I dont believe Craig Whyte HAS any money. He has capital, for sure but none of it really belongs to him. It's all owed to other people and we can be pretty confident not many of them will get paid.
You could only do it I would guess if your mate made it clear you were the only one he was going to sell to.Murray in this case has a lot to answer.
Or murray because the money was supposedly shown up in whytes account before the takeover thats why he got the green light. craig+babybear
Do not know how true this is but in todays DR it states.....
In fact, we can reveal questions were asked about the legality of Whyte’s Ibrox takeover in the taxman’s petition to the Court of Session last Tuesday.
The move by HMRC, over £9million of unpaid PAYE and VAT, forced Rangers into administration.
The revenue’s petition, we believe, raises serious concerns about the takeover. And now there will be further moves to discover if there was any breach of the Companies Act, which outlaws Financial Assistance.
Basically, this means it is illegal to use a company’s shares or funds to raise money to buy that same company. It’s a crime that carries a maximum jail sentence of two years.
What Craig Whyte has done is illegal and he could be sent down for it.
Ian(For every £1 Celtic spend Rangers will pay their creditors 10p)
Craig Whyte even refused to pay maintenance to his estranged wife and children. It required legal action before he would stump up anything.
I think youll find that wee graigo when he looked at the purchase, then thought hang on what if,
1. what if I showed murray that I HAD the money ( though not actually intending to use it (
2. what if, I had no intention of using MY OWN MONEY but instead contacted Ticketus .
3. what if, when ticketus were contacted they said ( like applying for a loan) that yes wee craigo you meet our criteria for borrowing x amount only IF you gain control of rangers & we purchase the seats from x as opposed to an unsecured type loan ( but only if you use that money to pay off ALL the outstanding amount owed to the main creditor at that time LLOYDS ,so based on ALL criteria then the man fae delmonte says "YES"
posso pat c'mon guys it really isnt rocket science.........
Think of the interest all these payments in Whytes bank account must make.They must be adding a considerable amount of dough to his Super Saver Account.
Jungle Bhoy.
22 Feb 2012 12:12:33
Never liked the personality of the man from Day 1 and now all is coming out about the disaster that has been Craig Whyte.
22 Feb 2012 11:14:22
this prob wont gt posted but cn ppl correct me if am wrong cast your mind back tillast year b4 cw rode into town , werent rangers 30 m in debt when murray was runnin the club and alister johnston was chairman ? didnt rangers pay loydds a good 7 m to reduce debt ie the money from the champions league n uefa cup run , i cant remember the figures but we were in profit then? how can it go fron turnin a profit to running a lossin such a small period of time in the mean time repeatadley slashin the wage bill? this maybe one that ed cn clear up for me??
22 Feb 2012 10:58:34
ed, how does post pass the admin. I have posted the other day giving my backing to broadfoot and today backing whyte. i should be allowed to have an opinion. other post on the site are total made up crap but somehow you pass them. jims tache {Ed001's Note - stop whining, your posts have been posted if you were to bother looking instead of wasting my time with moans.}
You want to post BACKING Whyte? And you say other posts on here are full of crap?
Deary me.
Never mind whyte .... broadfoot
22 Feb 2012 10:55:03
We all know Whyte is a lier.conman and theif but he is good at it. Just look at his track record I think he does this for a living buy a company cheap admin no debt then sell big bucks so no matter what he has to say whyte is only out for whyte
22 Feb 2012 10:46:45
As a celtic fan I do not wish to see the demise of Rangers, I would love to see an end to all the bigotry that BOTH clubs are saddled with and we could go on all day about whos worse ect ect, there has to be consequences for the way your club has been run under Murray and White, these two have not only put the existance of Rangers in question, but have plunged other SPL clubs into financial hardships as well, all be it White being more guilty than Murray of that, one thing that puzzles me is how did Murray not know that White had sold off season tickets to finance his takeover when he didnt own the club ? Only someone at Rangers could have sanctioned that deal, so it must have been Mr Murray himself, as for White selling the shares that rangers had in connection with arsenal , one word for that (SCANDELOUS), this man should be jailed for what he has done. For all those who say Celtic dont need Rangers to survive, yeah your right Celtic would survive but at what level ? We wont attract the same sponsorship, tv renvenue, people would get bored with no competition thus the better player wouldnt want to come to the club and as for europe, if we cant attract all of the above we would struggle to get through the qualifying rounds, so as some have been saying to Rangers fans about (heids comin oot the sand) well maybe some of our fans should take thiers out too.
Round of applause well said
Im starting to believe that murry new what white was up to all along and he may have put white in there for that reason!! (might i be the only one thinking like this)?
I do believe Murray sanctioned this move, so DESPERATE was he to be rid of the club, not so sure he even realised what depths Whyte would drag Rangers to, but Mr Murray must be held accountable along with Whyte.But never in a million years would Ticketus buy season tickets from a man who did not own Rangers. Murray knew where his funding had come from.
As Whyte had a team of legal experts and tax experts with him all they way through the takeover unfortunately his team (Llyods TSB had a vested interest in the outcome) surely Llyods TSB must be forensically examined for Fraudulent activity
22 Feb 2012 10:45:45
i hear craigy boy was in costa rica checking out some new talent.
yep, she looks like jennifer lopez and charges by the hour, and you lot are paying for it.!!!
Craig Whyte is 100% not in Costa Rica. Incidentally Costa Rica has extradition treaties with the UK. So the rumour he has cut-and-run to Costa Rica is garbage.
IS that yer maw?
Soary boays it wiz costa coffie
so its hee haw fae me....
22 Feb 2012 10:44:17
As we don't know every detail of what Whyte has done since taking over at Rangers, although we will learn more now administrators are in charge, is it conceivable that Whyte used the Ticketus deal to fund takover - rather than his own money - as the ticketus option meant they don't own assets of the club (although they do own future season ticket money) And if Whyte had used his own money he'd have secured it against assets of the club meaning he'd be in line for that money back in event of insolvency. Whereas now, he hasn't used any money, meaning he's owed no money by the club and all assets are still owned by the club. Leaving the only way for Whyte to make money from this is the selling of a debt free club once emerged from administration. And since he is not owned £18m debt we initially thought he'd transferred from Lloyds bank to his company, it really hinges on the HMRC debts and managing to agree with them the CVA. I don't know what our chances are of that, but trying to justify why Whyte thinks ticketus deal was best deal for Rangers.
22 Feb 2012 10:24:46
not defending what Rangers have done but Morons like Timalloy,Lubo, and Taco should not take the moral high ground.
you lot will probably say its all lies so i will say to you what you have said about whyte if its not true he would have sued lets see if Celtic sue Leckie
bill Leckie Quote
" You can see why Neil Lennon might not be gushing with sympathy for Rangers right now. Their fans haven't made him terribly likely to raid his savings and help pay the HMRC. However, when he hints about Rangers being stripped of titles should it be proved that they cheated the treasury, you have to ask if he REALLY wants to pull that thread.You know, just incase anyone brings up the White and Kelly days when Parkhead would be absolutely crammed. Yet next day the papers would give the crowd as 22000. Makes you wonder how much was diverted away from the taxman back then ? How much it contributed to celtic's success in the 60s 70s 80s? And how they somehow ended up minutes from the gates being padlocked? Glasshouses Stones that sort of thing."
Tonyd
@Tonyd; thats a bit pointless to be honest.i well remember the times at parkhead when this was happening but as usual with a berk like leckie he's wrong.when it was "crammed" i never saw an attendance of 22000,thats rubbish.the worst i can remember was v dundee to win the league and the place was "crammed". in the papers it said 54000.the average would be around 10000 of an underestimation i would guess. HMRC would NEVER be able to prove anything with regards to this as it was the old turnstyles and,EVERY club was doing it.i think the stripping titles thing is nonsense and dont subscribe to this at all......green jhedi
Tony D, as I am a civilised person, I will leave the silly name calling to you bears, seems I may be getting to you?
But these accusations keep being posted on here, I will repeat what I said yesterday, please provide CONCRETE PROOF, this happened, and please tell me when police charged these named individuals and they were found GUILTY in a court of law. Gossip/hearsay is NOT
the law of the land. I also hope legal action is taken against Leckie also. Timalloy
It's a bit worrying that you want to use Bill Leckie's words to back up your argument.
Fair point so should they be stripped of their European cup?
"Gossip/hearsay is NOT the law of the land"... ffs man! You have been on here spouting nowt else for months. Help ma boab!
BB
Rangers wont be stripped of their European Cup , lmfao .
22 Feb 2012 10:19:30
I don't know about everyone else, but I think it'd be good to talk about something otha than the tax case. The football maybe? Personally im worried about the next old firm game as I think we coukd be onto a hiding :( they are playing well at minute and can see them rolling us ova. What's everones thoughts?
What football you are not playing football just now. Team have no interest as they may not have jobs shortly. Manager seems to have no tactics 1 fit striker and he will not give him 90 mins.
Ian(For every £1 Celtic spend Rangers will pay their creditors 10p)
What "teams" might not have a job? The A-team maybe? Nah mate b-a barrakas is working! "get some nuts". (for every trophy Celtic have won, rangers have won five). PaulRFC
How many times has a team been playing well going into the derby game? form really does mean nothing in these games.we know rangers are wounded and will be right up for the march game............green jhedi
I'd agree with Jhedi, form always goes out the window in OF games. Lafferty and possibly Whittaker should be back for then, so at least we can play a recognised striker.
GovanFR
PaulRFC(IA) Read posts properly before replying I never put teams I put team. As in your team squad footballers(laugh) are not interested in playing football for your club as they are not sure they will be playing for your team in the near future.
Ian(For every £1 Celtic spend Rangers will pay their creditors 10p)
Rangers will fold before the next old firm game.
Celtic have won 92 major domestic and European honours. Rangers have won 114. It's quite possible that gap will significantly narrow over the next few years. Back to school for you, Paul.
22 Feb 2012 10:02:00
The rumours i heard are that the idea that whyte is a puppet of murray is true and whyte is just a front face man taking the flack for david murray and murray has a secret agenda to come back as a great saviour, we will soon see, then do we want him back after this disgrace.
Get him tae france! a believe totally that this is murray's plan, as he has a history of it. he has spent his full life looking for praise and mkes sure every good thing he does is well broadcasted. in his tenure, he used to take the cream of the scottish sports columnists away on holiday quite a lot, as to have good stories written about him. he's just as much of a crook aswhyte
I don't think Whyte is a puppet for Murray whatsoever. I also doubt Murray would have wanted Rangers to go into administration. Everything that has happened recently is Craig Whyte's doings, nothing to do with Murray.
We can't blame Murray for anything until the verdict of the tax case. If Rangers are found guilty then an element of blame has to go toward him. It was Craig Whyte who put us into administration for running up a £9m tax debt......it has absolutely nothing to do with Murray.
TTG
22 Feb 2012 09:33:26
Ed, can Craig Whyte actually still call himself the owner of Rangers, from reports there is no investment from him and the club was technically bought by fans. Personally I would give him his pound and tell him to f**k off {Ed001's Note - yes he can, technically he is still the owner.}
If 1 of 26000 share holders mans up and questions the contract between Whyte and Murray then Whyte will be found to have breached the contract and ownership will be passed back to Murray (he will not want that) and contrary to common opinion Whyte is a puppet but not for Murray for a shady character called AIDEN EARLEY
22 Feb 2012 09:13:31
Can't believe Craig whyte might be the last man ever to unveil a league championship flag at ibrox.
Even better,your last signing was a guy called cellik.artybhoy
22 Feb 2012 09:11:22
I personally dont think Whyte used the Ticketus money to takeover the club and until there is concrete proof i will back the man 100%, I think he does have a masterplan.
Jims 'Tache
Really? You need to phone the p!ssing samaritans for some help ma man! PaulRFC
Uuuhmm. how much more proof do you need? did you not hear him admit it last night? ostrich.
Jeeze! still clinging to the masterplan eh. you actually didnt need to go into admin if whyte had spent his own money while downsizing.....green jhedi
Oh my god
Whiiiiiit!!?? he's admitted it ya numbskull!
You must be off ure rocker u need help if u think that
Well if the Ticketus money didn't buy the club then what money did?
It is now a fact not speculation my man....
Diesel
For a while I hoped he had a plan to benefit Rangers and himself, as time goes on it certainly looks as though he is just in it for himself. Not paying VAT and PAYE is not an appropriate way to fund a business.
GovanFR
Question is, who are the another two that agreed?
I don't want to live on this planet anymore!
22 Feb 2012 08:48:02
Can anyone shed some light on what will happen if Crook Whyte's takeover is found to be illegal then what happens with the club, does it go back up for sale or is it transferred back to David Murray?
This guys too clever to have done anything like that,this is what he does.he's shuffling money all over the place and he's been rumbled due to the scrutiny celtic and rangers are under.illegal..no,shady and underhand..yes.........green jhedi
22 Feb 2012 08:40:08
This may anger a lot of fans but I would prefer to go into liquidation as long as we could enter the English league, as there is a much bigger chance someone would put money into the club because right now we are going to lose our best players in the summer & we will be left with the dross & if we haven't came out of administration by then, we won't be able to sign anyonen meaning we will be no better than Dunfermline, meaning we could possibly be relegated & struggle for years to come. If Celtic fans & staff think they can survive without us, let them try, I for one would rather try getting to the EPL for a few years than play in a league where no-one wants us anyway. I know peopla will say what about the history etc but we will all know who we are & we would still have our memories.
You need to get yourself sorted out mate... You want to trade your history? For what? To save a few years of hardship... Disgrace... If people like you were about 70 year ago we'd all be speaking german! England doesn't want the old firm an never will so get over it... Some rangers "fans" really baffle me... I'll say again.. "new brand" "start over" "liquidation" are all phrases that disgust me! PaulRFC
Totally agree .too many people looking at the past .i think its time to try move the club forward and look at avenues to get into england were the money is better .even in the lower leagues
22 Feb 2012 08:32:14
The SFA have left it a bit late. They
should have had Whyte thoroughly
checked out BEFORE they allowed
him to ruin our club. Stable doors and
horses comes to mind.
22 Feb 2012 08:06:27
Ed can you tell me why we need Ali Russell and Gordon smith now the administrators are in charge? Total waste of money the pair of them IMO. {Ed001's Note - I am not sure that either of them were needed in the first place personally!}
I and bet there on high wages to
Save some salaries for the playing staff & the rest of the staff!
Diesel
22 Feb 2012 08:43:52
As a fair minded person I think it only
fair that everybody should come up
with a business plan to try and help
your club make some much needed
money, here is my suggestion.
AN OSTRICH FARM! lol Timalloy
We could sell some silverware... Because let's be honest we have enough of it, unlike your lot! PaulRFC
Or a duck egg like yourself
Oh Dear Oh Dear Timalloy. You're running out of ideas son if this is the best you can come up with.
Personally I think you and all your pals (real ones of course - not your wee make believe pals) should help us by coming down to Ibrox and doing the tour. Your pennies will help our cause and it'll get you away from that mouldy Lennon poster that you are so fond of.
Blue Knows
You's can have the league title! we've no room for anymore in oor trophy room
and we can't afford an extension!! 54titles wee man!!
@Blue knows;were coming to visit next month but will be to busy having a party to take the tour.im sure you could get the blue disorder to scan the broomloan for coins,im pretty sure we are gonna be jumping around a bit and theres bound to be money falling outa our pockets........green jhedi
I'll take you over wee Tim any day Jhedi. You come and spend the dough and soak in the atmosphere of a quality stadium. Win lose or draw - I hope that we can watch our teams play our particular brand of passionate football and show the world why the old firm is still the best show in town.
blue knows
22 Feb 2012 07:59:39
Morning ed if Whyte used the ticket money to buy rangers then it was our money from our season tickets to me that is a act of fraud which am pretty sure he will face criminal charges . He should pay the ticketus money back not the club or the fans he spent it not us ... Kenny the prod {Ed001's Note - no its not mate, there is a very fine, clearly immoral, though sadly not illegal, line drawn here. He has kept it on the legal side, just the same as the Glazers and Gillett and Hicks did when they bought Manchester United and Liverpool respectively.}
22 Feb 2012 03:42:09
Ed, you have to be taking the P*ss.
An advertisement for Duff and Phelps on your site???
Irony?? {Ed001's Note - I believe Google Adsense does have a major flaw in that regard, it looks at the content of the page when deciding which ads to run. Clearly Duff and Phelps are mentioned repeatedly, so it thinks this is a good place to run their ad. They couldn't have it more wrong!}
22 Feb 2012 02:37:06
with the pantomime coming to an end when will the real show start.......the old board
22 Feb 2012 02:11:59
Who is the man that made sure Whyte got his foot in the door.....we must be told...les
22 Feb 2012 02:04:24
Rangers are finished as a big club. There is no saviour around the corner. We will be streamlined into a club about the same size as Aberdeen (in terms of spending power etc).
I was thinking falkirk myself ,it looks hopeless
anyone coming in saddled with to much debt
were going down in a blaze of glory
who want to deal with us after all this sh't
dont know how we patch up our reputation after this
Are you the same guy who posted on the other page aswell... Trying your scare monger tactics... Your mate works for duff an phelps does he? Two words.... Pipe sh!t ! PaulRFC
If Rangers are finished you can kiss goodbye to your team (as you know it) as well pal. You might hate us but you'll find that the old firm is the only reason theres ANY money coming into the SPL.
Deal with it - we are going nowhere and once this mess is sorted AND IT WILL BE SORTED, normal business will resume and you can jog back down to your favourite second place. Look at what your own team has achieved in the past 4 years whilst we have been on our knees
blue knows
22 Feb 2012 01:37:07
was it a deliberate act to involve other scottish clubs
people will be asking these questions
we were desperate to get goodwilly,sandaza, did we intend to pay for these players
its a fine old mess........les
22 Feb 2012 01:31:43
Ed is that duff an phelps advertisement on the top of the page meant to be a p!ss take? PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - is there really one there when you look at the page? I don't see the same page as you mate.}
Yeah mate - lol I'm on ma birds i-pod an the top left of the the screen there's a big bold duff an phelps financial advice blah blah advertisement... Doesn't mention their administrators mind you! Lol bit of a low blow. PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - it is just because Adsense bases ads on the webpage's content, also can take input from any searches you have done. I would think it is purely because they have been mentioned on the page.}
It's gone now ! {Ed001's Note - I always get ads for games when I look at the sites properly, instead of through the editing suite.}
I always seem to get or see the advertisements for bankruptcy or loans or tax advice.... Maybe it's trying to tell me something! Can't think what though ;)
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - perhaps it is telling you to loan me lots of money so I can buy a football club, while telling people it was my money all along?}
22 Feb 2012 01:15:45
when this is finished it maybe best if we did liqiuidate
ask yourself this who is going to give us crediy who is going to have anything to do with us ,stiched up like a kipper..........the truth must be told........les
Nope rubbish! Not a clue what your talking about. It's as if the alkies just come on here after 12am n just start talkin pish
22 Feb 2012 00:59:16
is it a coincidence that whytes pitched up in costa rica as the UK have no extradition agreement with them? criminal charges heading his way? not so far fetched when you think about it.......green jhedi
Lol so he's in costa rica now is he ? Legendary! PaulRFC
Mr tight will be in the caves bin laden was meant to be in next. Ha.
22 Feb 2012 00:51:10
Lots of posts about the administration situation and of course who is to blame etc but time i believe to seriously ask the question.
Given Whyte got 24m from Ticketus on the basis of pre selling 4 seasons worth of our tickets,would like to think that the supporters could all take out a civil court actions against Craig Whyte for the principal of the use of what is in effect our money. Not of course sure if we have any ground to stand on,but would be great if we di and it allowed us all to demand he is taken to court.
The tickets at this moment in time have not been sold, no-one has bought them, yet. Ticketus have the rights to sell them. So perhaps technically Ticketus have sorted out Rangers debt with this investment.
GDog
WATP
22 Feb 2012 00:44:03
If anyone was not sure if CRAIG WHYTE ever told the truth, the information that he obtained money fron ticketus then used that to pay the debt Rangers owed to Lloyds once and for all proves that this guy is a LIAR and a CROOK.
Now we hear that he might be in Costa Rica where at one time he had a home (might well still have who knows) but lets hope that our finest Strathclyde Police can after investigation procede with criminal charges against this guy because he should be locked up. The EBT Tax case is a separate issue and as yet no decision has been reached
however in the case of the transfer of ownership by DAVID MURRAY he has to accept he played a major part in the current problem now facing the club having passed ownership over to WHYTE. Here's hoping that between the Administrators/Police and SFA we might be able to get some creditability back with new ownership to include paying off any debts,while at the same time looking to see both Whyte and MURRAY held accountable to some degree
22 Feb 2012 00:22:08
DOMAINE JESSIAUME
SATENAY
BURGANDY
AND
CHATEAU ROUTAS
COTEAUX VAROIS
PROVINCE
i piss on your grapes mr Murray {Ed001's Note - I must be missing this reference?}
Ed, Murray was in Hong Kong last week selling the wines from his vineyards in France. {Ed001's Note - ah ok sorry, I didn't know that, cheers.}
Did we have them on trial? PaulRFC
DEBATE,AFTER,DEBATE,MURRAYS TO BLAME,WHYTES TO BLAIM,EVEN THOSE PESKY REPORTERS& MEDIA TO BLAME!rfc,dignity...for once some decent folk come out & shout it out loud.OUR CLUB IS TO BLAME FULL STOP!!EMBARASMENT too scottish football,as its now a soap opera,wondering what more dirt & dodgy dealings have been ,now we have an sfa investigation,outwith 2hmrcs case,police enquiris.and the bluenose mp downsouth trying to get parliment too help OUT!!some folk ave no shame!the burden lighs at the entrance to the marble stairs& were answers,no matter how painful will come out shortly..whyte will be in the firing squad,whilst yer 1 time hero,evades the tax case& sorry scenario,which is RFC,whilst sniffing& drinking expensive wine over in his vinyard in france!!!well the thousands that mocked all the cfc supporters who kept saying open yer eyes,yet ,denial,denial,in whyte we trust,watp,all timmy propaganda!!dont wan gloat,want 2 sit back & watch the s hit storm blow harder&harder everday at ibrox,if only a few had opend yer ears to mr alistaer johnstones rally cry to yous!!!he was part the bbc tho,all shheeeite watp......well shouting watp till yer hoare aint going to help.i wonder what today will expose?any guess?
No if any gers fans want to go on a wine tasting holiday this is the place to go i,m sure mr murray would love to meet us
les
Well said cfc man... but have they done these things in my name or any other fan dont think so .....les
If its a get it of our chests then how did Murray get hold of so much money from his friends in the banking world...was it legal...was it moral....les
M point is....for months& months the truth was outhere,but with scared media in scotland,it took the irish blogger&tax case blog to get a few ungle drums banging,then when confronted with the evidence off sherrif officers turning up,yet no fans stood up& started demonstrating then,hindesite is a wonderful thing,yet when craig whyte we trust chants& shrugging shoulders,&saying all loada pi sh,its going to set yous bck even more years,murrays spiderweb off deals&whytes shady passed will be a leagacy laeft too what ever becomes of rfc,hopefully 1 day youss will get thru it&stop blaming wrong folk
22 Feb 2012 00:20:27
Earlier on today, STV broke the news that Matt McKay would be the first player to leave Ibrox following administration. As the story goes, McKay's agent is in South Korea, finalising a deal with Busan I'Park, and Matt has already said his goodbye's at Murray Park.
I am sure Matt himself will be relieved to find an exit from Rangers, after what must have been a difficult, yet short time for the former Australian player of the year, regardless of the current situation the club is currently in.
When his original transfer to Rangers had been confirmed, I was pretty excited about his arrival. We had to wait a few weeks as international duties dictated, but once he was back, he went straight in to the squad to face Dundee United at Tannadice back in September. After seventy-five minutes or so, the substitution was made and despite not having too much of a chance to impress, I was still looking forward to seeing more.
Five months on, I don't feel like I've seen anything at all. He certainly played well against Liverpool in a friendly, but still up against considerably better opposition and I even thought after that game, that his time was now going to come. Almost every time I have managed to see a bounce game match report this season, he was either on the scoresheet or assisting.
So what went wrong for the little soccerroo?
There have been plenty of rumours, ranging from Gordon Smith signing the player, without discussing this with Ally McCoist, to the fall out between the player and his manager following an interview where McKay criticised the training at Murray Park. Hopefully Matt himself can shed some light on this issue, once his transfer has been confirmed.
Also news has just broken - again on STV - as I write that Rangers are in talks with a club, to transfer Alejandro Bedoya. Alejandro has had a few more opportunities, but we still don't know too much about this player.
We are facing financial hell at present and players who are deemed surplus to requirements will be leaving the club. So on that basis, I can say that the right decision has been made.
On the other hand, I am frustrated that this player is surplus to requirements.
Ally is shoe horning players in to a 4-4-2 system, week in, week out. The likes of McKay, Bedoya and Wylde, haven't been able to get a look in, when we are playing some horrible football and still dropping points, with third placed Motherwell now for company in the SPL table.
Papac in central midfield, or left midfield; McCulloch up front or in central midfield; Kerkar coming off the bench to play up front, wide left or left back; shall I go on?
With only one senior, natural striker available in David Healy and attacking players not involved, such as Wylde and even Kerkar (currently coming on as substitute everywhere and anywhere), why aren't we playing in a 4-3-3 / 4-5-1 system? Let us also remember the young, promising players such as Fleck, Hutton and even Kal Naismith, who have been sent on loan and either could have fit well in to a three man central midfield, when called upon.
I don't know how Ally can't see this?
Administration may have come at good time for a club legend who's managerial career has not got off to a flyer, despite the initial hefty lead in the league a few months ago. Administration may well have earned Ally the time he needs to realise the tactical errors he is currently making, without the pressure of trying to win the league in his first season.
I really hope he does see what we can all see, as he has demonstrated this past week why he is the right man to be the manager of Rangers Football Club, during this incredibly difficult time.
Finally, I want to wish the best of luck to Matt McKay, in his second spell in South Korea. I am certainly disappointed to not have seen more of him whilst he was here.
The same sentiment applies to Alejandro Bedoya, wherever he may be headed away from Ibrox
Was Matt mckay a player it the cleaning lady?