Rangers Banter Archive July 21 2018

21 Jul 2018 21:55:35
Read a couple of reports from Mexico that Pena is doing well in training and his foster team are more than happy so far. Interested to see views if Pena got back to top form would you take him back?

21 Jul 2018 22:29:17
depends on the wage bill. over 10 grand an emphatic no.

22 Jul 2018 00:13:11
Not a chance.

22 Jul 2018 04:39:04
Wiped his nose with our shorts while sniggering so no.

22 Jul 2018 07:59:45
Absolutely not, after watching that video where he purposely cleaned his horrible stinking beak all over the crest of the rangers. You endear yourself to fans by doing well and kissing the badge not by being rotten and wiping your nose on it, not to mention he has an alcohol dependency which just puts that last nail nicely in his coffin. So it's a no from me he is rank.

22 Jul 2018 10:10:23
We are paying at least 10 k of his wage at the moment are we not?

22 Jul 2018 11:10:20
this beats all for stupid questions.

21 Jul 2018 21:58:06
Let's believe in Morelos He has been playing as a loan striker which for one he is too small if we are lumping balls up to him

Once he has a striking partner and better supply and support he will bang in the goals no doubt


He needs to get that mental block out of his head, regarding the speculation of the Chinese team

It's past now He needs to get over this if he is to have another chance of another big break

Anyway teams don't get much bigger than Rangers and he is lucky he plays for our Jersey

It's just unfortunate that we don't play in the EPL.

21 Jul 2018 20:25:32
Early days I know but The fact we are now signing a fourth young player on loan doesn't do it for me we haven't had a loan signing that has managed to do well consistently since Steven Davis (different class) to me we are now starting see that there is a lack of money and ambition if there is money then surely there is better players out there to sign than young loan players.

Not happy that I think this but for me this squad will not qualify for the group stage of the EL.

I really hope I'm wrong.

21 Jul 2018 21:00:59
Well said FB1.

21 Jul 2018 21:01:55
We are signing Juniors mate need men om the ball.

21 Jul 2018 21:12:23
We’ve spent a decent amount already and are currently bidding a reported £3 mil on Cooper not to mention the wages for Arfield and Flanagan which won’t be peanuts I think the board have backed SG pretty well so far.

Sadiq, Ejaria and Coulibaly aren’t exactly juniors look at the size of them they are big physical players.

21 Jul 2018 21:20:29
It's pretty obvious that there's a shortage of money available to get the right players in, the whole fiasco with strip sales will only hurt that some more if not sorted out promptly! But we have to live within our means this time around and if that means going down the route of loaning in players then so be it! With most of them coming from top teams, Liverpool and Roma, then you have to think to be at these clubs then they are somewhat talented footballers, and only time will tell if they can make it in the SPFL and more importantly under the pressure that comes playing infront of a full house at Ibrox!

21 Jul 2018 21:24:34
I will be surprised if we reach the group stage. too big too soon. hope i'm wrong.

21 Jul 2018 21:40:56
To be honest gerrard wouldn't be getting these young loans in if they wernt any good he obviously sees them as better than we've got i say let them loose out in croatia nab an away goal happy days.

21 Jul 2018 22:11:51
Group stages will be a stretch and all fans should be realistic- every round gives the manager a bigger budget. I for one hope we get to four round. This would be a step forward, new team / manager . persons on here think we should be walking straight into group stages . Our manager is doing his best with limited funds and having to remove dead wood - give him time and support the team.

21 Jul 2018 23:19:20
Some teams make a loss in the qualifying rounds after paying travel and accommodation so I wouldn't say we are quids in with them. There's more money to be made in the champions league group stage than winning the Europa league.

22 Jul 2018 08:06:55
We won't qualify for the group stage, this mob are far better than the last lot we played and we struggled with them. I would love to be wrong but I just don't see it and in all honesty I am only interested in domestic success. Unless you get through to the group stage and beyond it's pointless because it's just extra games extra injuries and extra pressure. I like my bread And butter.

22 Jul 2018 08:34:45
Marco c rangers not making loss, 50k, sellout, to money, 250k for getting through, catering, corporate a million a game for us.

22 Jul 2018 13:54:53
Marco c - lose money 🤔 50k full House - tv and corporate at least 1m per round. Every round a bonus and as I said helps the manager. Still feel if we sell a couple “windass and Wes” we will have the opportunity to bring in a couple more . All need to relax team will have a better balance when we sign third Centre half and able to play 3-5-2 - which will free up tav and John on the flanks.

21 Jul 2018 17:41:13
Not a rumour just wanted to get peoples thoughts on the possibility of getting rhian brewster on loan from Liverpool. Personally if it was possible i think we should go for him. Watched him a few times and he is a great wee player and would do wonders up here.

21 Jul 2018 21:25:11
Not another loan player from Liverpool!

22 Jul 2018 08:18:31
Here why don't we just ask Klopp to give us a full starting 11 of Liverpool youths that should win us the treble. I have never seen a single one of these young Liverpool players play but everyone else has watched them all several times apparently and they will all rip our league up. Does anyone on here really have any idea how good any of these guys are, I don't think anyone really has any insight to how good they are just clutching at straws.

{Ed001's Note - nobody will have seen Brewster for a while as he picked up a long term injury and missed the second half of last season and will be out for a large part of this too.}

21 Jul 2018 15:39:09
Forgot to mention I was on holiday last week I totally forgot about rangers and Celtic I'm surprised my self was away to Hawaii there noodles and chicken dishes are top drawer.

21 Jul 2018 19:03:28
Jealous dislikes lol.

21 Jul 2018 20:06:28
I was in Turkey for 2 weeks and thought about the Gers everyday!

21 Jul 2018 21:04:11
Why don’t youse holiday in Helensburgh. and you can still go to see the gers. heard the noodle and chicken dishes and fish suppers are to die fir.

21 Jul 2018 11:54:15
Don't want to be negative here but who thinks this game against a good Croatian side may have come to early?

Ed001 can you maybe put a up a poll to ask fans if this game might have come too premature for where we are just now?

We are still a team pretty much in the gelling period and we are not only playing a team that are sound technically but also with pace and this team has big physical players

We as a team should be beating this sort team but you can't under-estimate them!

I would categorise NK Osijek as a household name rather than a "minnow"

You seen what the Croatian side had achieved in the World Cup to back this up!

We will need to get a result over there in the first leg to return to Ibrox to have any real chance to get through this tie

We have some good qualities in our team but the realistic thing is these guys have only played a few games together

Who agrees?

Lets hope we can do it! Great to be back in Europe

C'mon the Gers!

{Ed033's Note -


Croatian Side Poll

21 Jul 2018 16:01:21
If we cannot beat a so called good Croatian side, then we don’t deserve to be in the europa league.

21 Jul 2018 17:15:06
Going to come down to who wants to win simple as that. Yes we're gelling and we must and we will improve but bottle is what's needed. We have superior quality.

21 Jul 2018 17:36:47
blueboy, please remind me of the team who came runners up at the world cup, now go justify your opinion, because it ain't worth reading as it stands.

21 Jul 2018 17:58:14
Ritchie 1 I don’t really care what you think, that’s my opinion if you don’t like it tough.

21 Jul 2018 18:57:24
It's not that we won't deserve to be in Europa league group stages if we lose to the Croatian side, fact is, we simply won't be!

21 Jul 2018 19:13:17
Lol well said Pdot, that’s probably how I should have phrased it 👍.

21 Jul 2018 20:08:02
It's going to be a tough tough game that's for sure and tbh there's a good chance we will go out but if we do it doesn't mean the seasons over or Stevie is a bad manager we just have to dust ourselves down and go and chase 55, I personally don't think we have and cat in hell's chance of getting to the group stage but it doesn't mean I think the whole season has gone tits up if we don't . This team needs seasonerious time to gel and they will and when they do we will get a clearer picture of how far we should be getting in certain competitions until then let's get behind the boys whilst they find their feet because I'm sure it will happen a lot quicker if the players hear the fans are behind them instead of picking out their flaws etc.

21 Jul 2018 21:08:06
Gonna really miss Arfield . if he’s not there. think that was the prob last two ties . he will b the anchor and driver in our team. a hit like thuggy broon . in my opinion. realised you’ve got to put that on this site to prevent you being slautered totally.

22 Jul 2018 08:25:43
Most will disagree but is the EL not just more of a hindrance? I say that because we will have enough on our plate trying to compete with the other teams around us as well as trying to stay close to them. We will also be in the League cup and Scottish cup which every Rangers fan expects us to win so in my opinion it might be a blessing I disguise if we end up out of it, all I know is that I want rangers to stop them getting 10 In a row and playing in an extra tournament doesn't help that.

21 Jul 2018 15:01:32
First time post,

Totally agree we need another striker with a fair bit of experience.

Think louis moult/ kyle laffety would be a good option to be honest but surely there must be some decent strikers in the free agent market without clubs.

I know abel Hernandez and Lacina traore are both without clubs granted would demand higher wages but surely they would represent a decent investment considering we now have Bruno alves off the books aswell as other deadwood.

Personal opinion would be to go deep in the pocket to offer a contract to Hernandez or traore and if it fails then go with the aforementioned moult or big lafferty.

What's everyone's opinion?

21 Jul 2018 13:00:32
Europa league 3rd qualifying round potential teams to play

Sevilla
Burnley
Zenit
Dinamo Zagreb
Basiktas
PSV
Fiorentina
Lille

Well well well any of this bunch will test our team spirit and talent on the pitch.

21 Jul 2018 14:19:49
Let’s get by the Croatia team first eh?

21 Jul 2018 14:30:55
Agree OP, - let's not jump the gun though. This other mob are no mugs!

21 Jul 2018 22:01:41
Well now what do we have here now guvnor?

22 Jul 2018 08:28:32
Well it was fun while it lasted, focus on the League anyway a we cup would be nice but 55 is what we seek.

21 Jul 2018 12:51:52
Yes to be fair Louis Moult would be a decent signing.

21 Jul 2018 12:03:57
first leg next week officially live on Premier Sports as per their website 7.45 thursday.

21 Jul 2018 21:16:26
That’s a late one hope so 👍.

21 Jul 2018 09:33:25
Why are we so concenered about buying or loaning midfielders?

We've lost:-
Cummings
Herrera
Miller
Dodoo
MOH (dunno what's happening)

We've bought one strikerin Sadiq. Morelos can't hit a barn door and Windas (not a striker as such) is also off form, yet we are looking at more midfielders.

Come on SG.

21 Jul 2018 09:47:13
MOH is away to Austraalia mate.

21 Jul 2018 10:08:56
How do you know about Sadiq? Do you own a barn?

21 Jul 2018 10:12:14
5 strikers mentioned. All 5 are terrible. We currently have Morelos Sadiq and rudden. Sure there will be 1 more in. Kent will play wide right or left in front 3.

21 Jul 2018 21:51:55
Look at that list mate. Miller only player worth a game and he’s 55. Get your point though. I’m sure we are in for a striker somewhere. Hope it’s the lad from twente as he’s dynamite.

Morelos couldn’t hit a double decker with a shotgun (Had to use it) .

No seriously I think it would do Morelos a great service to have a sighter with his first sniff in every game. A nice target shot to get him moving. At this point he’s a mile off what we need.

21 Jul 2018 08:02:01
No televised game on thurs?

21 Jul 2018 08:43:58
Think it's on rtv.

21 Jul 2018 08:44:24
will be on rangers tv atleast.

21 Jul 2018 10:13:35
Hope so ah cannot handle another commentator in a foreign toungue.

21 Jul 2018 12:05:03
1st leg confirmed on Premier Sports.

21 Jul 2018 12:34:35
It’s on premier.

21 Jul 2018 07:55:05
Credit to the chap who posted on here 2 weeks ago about Ryan Kent of Liverpool signing for us. According to this mornings newspaper he's signed a year contract.

21 Jul 2018 07:20:29
Come on folks a bit more positivity! Remember Brendan Rodgers lost against red imps in his first competitive game.

A quality forward and for me S Davis or his type and we are there.

I think SG has has a bit of bad luck already with injuries I believe Rossiter and maybe even Dorrans would have played in midfield and given us more control and creativity over Mccorie and Jack. Don't get me wrong jack and Mccorie both did ok but not as creative as Rossiter or Dorrans and also not forgetting we lost Arfield for 2nd leg again a more offensive player who I think will be a big player for us.

People saying Gerrard playing people out of position Candeas, Windass and Flanagan.

I can see the logic in playing Candeas in midfield he was trying to get energy and legs in midfield and don't forget Rodgers managed to turn Mcgregor from a winger to a midfielder who can score goals. Sadly it doesn't appeared to have worked but we have had only a few games.

As for Windass playing him on the right or left, he has got into dangerous positions and just not finished his chances. SG clearly wants a front 3 like Liverpool who are dynamic. I know everyone will say that Windass best position is behind the striker and it does look that way but SG doesn't want to play that system I hope Windass can adapt to play in front 3 as I don't believe you can play him in the midfield as he tends to switch of defensively.

As for Flanagan it has made our Defense stronger and I think SG is smart to at this stage to be prioritising clean sheets and solid defence over having both his full backs bombing forward out of position. Just look how many goals we have lost in the past few seasons by having a poor defensive shape this is an area of the team that already looks so much better and the players are still getting to know each other.

I think SG knows we need another top quality striker. Morelos looks low in confidence reminds me off how Negris Rangers career went, great first half of the season poor second half. He might come good but I think we need a striker in that can come in and hit the ground running.

21 Jul 2018 10:34:37
Ok I'm positive we need a striker.

21 Jul 2018 04:13:04
before the lynch mob arrive. now i'm happy stevie g, is here. box office he is, manager exsperiance nothing. how many great players who can't cut it as a manager. long list. already mistakes docherty over halliday every dayof week future captain docherty. playing players out of position, w.

21 Jul 2018 06:02:11
Don't you think it's a little early for you to be sharpening your pitchfork and saying Gerrard is a bad manager?

I really despair about our support sometimes, 2 games, league not started yet and already winding up to start crying Gerrard out.

21 Jul 2018 06:27:15
ive put other post out f. u. pressed wrong button, mistakes already made, docherty over halliday all day long. love halliday lived the dream put on blue shirt, but not at thi leval. docherty future captain and what a prospect, windass waste of jersey, waste of wage, sell if right money bid comes in. candias get rid journeyman winger at best, waste of selection, so inconsistent, better wingers out there to buy/ play why managers play players out of position what for? yes 2 games in gerrard started that. we have a tough start to league i guarantee you if we have a poor start fans will question gerrard. heres hoping gerrard delivers, box office he is, doesn't guarantee us success. london jock.

21 Jul 2018 08:45:12
I don’t know why people get hung up on Docherty, he never proved himself in 6 months he was rangers class, another Jason holt in my opinion. No goals and very little assists if he even got one. I think out on loan for a season can only benefit the boy rather than sitting on the bench. Haliday won’t even see the bench once our midfielders are back fit, so don’t worry there. Striker and an attacking centre mid that can find a pass to space out wide or to our strikers feet and we are sorted for a challenge to the league.

21 Jul 2018 08:53:08
To be fair. No one guarantees success, but our squad has improved no doubt, so he gets a pass mark there we have went further in europe so again another pass mark. League hasn't even started yet.
We can speculate about what we think will happen but we all will have to wait and see but the one thing that matters is Steven Gerrard is our manager and there stands the point of why he has our support. The walls haven't crashed down, the players aren't revolting so why not enjoy. We have hardly had anything to enjoy in a long time so am here for the ride with a smile on my face.

21 Jul 2018 09:21:28
Docherty needs games to improve. Wont get them here this season. Good move as Halliday won't mind sitting on bench with a few cameos. he's probably doing well in training and works hard giving others the impetus to do better. Valuable without being on the pitch? His attitude must be good as he'd be gone if not.

21 Jul 2018 09:32:00
See if you can do a better job than stevie apply for it yourself. He makes decisions not us. If u don't like it tough u really think he cares? he's going about it his way, supposed to be grown men on here. support the club or don't, but don't act like kids about it. am sure folk in your jobs would love yours sacked too.

21 Jul 2018 14:10:17
I can't imagine anyone who has ever watched football believing that Greg Docherty is a future Rangers captain. Absurd.

22 Jul 2018 08:32:18
duty calls, docherty is one the best prospects in scotland, young and has a great career ahead of him, he would have flourished under gerrad. when you think tavernier is captain how would you no further down the line docherty would be in contention, halliday over docherty are you serious, its called know your football sir. london jock.