Rangers Banter Archive July 21 2012

 

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21 Jul 2012 23:03:21
Awrite fellow teddy bears, just on to ask if you would stop letting us all know that the dark side got pumped cos to be honest i for one dont care and for at least the next 3 years i still wont care so please stop goin on about it as its only a friendly and it just makes you look jealous....

Tam-Sir 1873 wants to know if rangers were in action against albion rovers?? just heard a rumour we won 5-1??

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We did beat them 5-1 tam. Barrie McKay gt two befits gt one, mcculloch with a penalty and a last minute edu goal. Boca, goian and edu played

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Post1; Goian is in germany is he not,and edu is still in the USA?

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21 Jul 2012 22:11:35
time to wise up fellow bears theres no gonna be team next season everyday gets worse than the day before if you could believe that would like to see how many would agree

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Have to agree. We're finished
VHSS

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21 Jul 2012 21:58:00
Hi Saints Fan here, just like to add that i'm glad my club has acted in the correct way and paid up for steve davis, i hope that the other clubs act in this way

good luck
together as one

chalkie

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21 Jul 2012 21:41:41
Ajax 4 Celtic 0

cant wait till the champions leauge to watch them get destroyed every 2 week haha

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Ha ha , came on the liquidation page to see comments about tonights pre season friendly . Just concentrate on your Ramsden cup tie away at Glebe Park Brechin next week and leave the big bhoys to go about their business .....Stevie

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Like your optimism would take qualifying for champions league and getting humped every 2nd week .......Stevie

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And that will help Rangers how? God I can smell those sour grapes from here

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Personally I don't care about he result ..... But gob smacked celts fans come onto a rangers rumours site to have a pop for commenting on a reaction to a 4-0 gubbing - what did they expect from a Rangers rumours site "it was the ref" ? .... What planet are these guys on ?

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Can't help but think that Mr Green could generate a loada cash for Rangers by backing against all the Scottish clubs in Europe.

BARNEY BEAR

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Least we will win a cup You's will never win the rams dens cup get it ye's

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Signs of great ambition there pal gladly get humped every two weeks just goes to prove again that it's just about champs league money and not progressing I agree with the other post don't care what celts or anyone else is doing just my team.look forward to getting back on top whenever that day may come.

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21 Jul 2012 21:33:27
Just saw the result of the tims trip to Ajax.
Why play pre season friendlies? Increase match fitness? Yes, Gell/bond players - well more or less the same team as last season so that's a no, prepare for your euro banana skin prelim round by trying to get an away win, the first for some considerable time, - well 4 v 0 that's a definite yes!

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Much better to play Airdrie,behind closed doors cos you aint licensed,i would think.Good prep for Brechin though eh?

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But it's the same old Rangers! So why don't they have an SPL and SFA license?
Why aren't they seeded in competitions?
Gues thats cause it's a brand new incorporated club.

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21 Jul 2012 20:13:49
Oh dear, humped 4-0 and already the shouts are back, lawwell this, lennon that. Thee septic site is on fire, surprised the Ed's can keep up.
But wait lets not forget they are the best supporters in the world.
Roll on next week cant wait for the real football to start.
54 league titles and still going strong........

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Going strong? I wouldn't call being liquidated going strong. L1888

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Going strong?Have a look at the BBC latest.Chances are no licence for you.

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@1 well you keep telling us were a new company so in effect yes we are going strong, good of you to be concerned with our welfare though .

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@3 yes u are a new club & company, you were referring to the old one (54 titles) I was just informing u that the old company was liquidated, so wasn't "going strong" the new club don't look in great nick either to be honest! L1888

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How can 4 people disagree with the fact that rangers were liquidated? Strange.... L1888 {Ed039's Note - Might be because they havent actually been formally liquidated yet, but just ignore the buttons)

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21 Jul 2012 20:25:15
I've never seen so much collective denial on one forum. Despite everything that's transpired and everything yet to come, lot's of Rangers fans still don't get it. It will probably take several years for reality to set in for quite a sizable number of the former Rangers' supporters. Also, I still think it's very probable that no Rangers-type team will play football in any league this coming season.

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I could agree with you but then we both would be wrong,lots of twists and turns still to come but I think the tide against Rangers has turned and is now heading to other parts of the city

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I guess you are a Celtic supporter, so why don't you go back to your own wee site and worry about how you are gonna win the CL and let us worry aboot our Gers. Enuf said,

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"former rangers supporters" you had a bang on the head mate?where do you get this pish. once a rangers fan always a rangers fan,i do thank you for your concern for our wonderfull club newco or not i dont care il still follow follow.if i were you id be more concerned about ma own club,did a certain mr lennon,an ledley not state that long ago that celtic could go on a good run in the champions league.by god youve got to start with at least getting a win under your belt away in europe,but then its always the refs fault.never cheated ehh always defeated.maybe you secretly want to be come a gers fan but dont know how tell everyone?whatever the reason for your dislike a suggest you deal with it.

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21 Jul 2012 20:54:15
Timmy tonked 4-0 to a second strenth
Ajax. Not looking good for CL qualifiers.

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In a friendly - you forgot to add that.

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I think you should be more worried that all the European teams you had friendlys with all pulled out. Haha.

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Look when will you lot go back to the darkside and worry about your teams own problems like actually winning a game ffs,your so obsessed with the rangers its admirable but kinda worrying.sure your not a secret ger and cant find the words to admit it?

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@2 i think you should be concerned with your still very apparent obsession with all things rangers.

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@1 famous quote from the mighty septic when they defeated man u in a "friendly" WE DONT DO FRIENDLIES WE PLAY TO WIN lol

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Ha, it was a friendly for them too, no?

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Yes ajax wiped the floor with them ,was hugh dallas not refereeing the game ? goodness he must have been to blame for the defeat doug t.s.o

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21 Jul 2012 17:23:30
Well done to southampton! At least the done the right thing! Speaking to andrew naysmith, the father of gary naysmith last night. He was saying that his son has had talks with gers. His dad a gers fan he hoped it would happen. Despite his age he would still b a good signing for left back and is willing to play for gers

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The same player who's currently in Germany on trial with Aberdeen?

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To the last post about him being on trial with the sheep in germany. There is a Great invention called a phone. You pick it up and dial a number, wait till someone answers then wait for it " talk" like the original poster said he has " talked" with gers.

T

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@2: not exactly the best form from someone to be in talks with one club while on trial with another, though. At the moment the best option for him might well be Aberdeen, unless he wants to sign for a team that doesn't have a licence to play yet. {Ed001's Note - it is normal practice, players go on trial with a club while their agent tries to line up deals elsewhere, just in case, every single season. Only a fool would not be making plans in case the trial failed.}

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21 Jul 2012 13:46:22
Eds I'm more than a little worried that Rangers acceptance of the 12 month transfer ban is subject to Lord Carloway's appellant panel sitting and approving.
I feel we could become a ball in ping pong between Glennie and Carloway.
Carloway is in no way bound to accept the deal and could suspend thus upholding glennies opinion that a signing ban isn't an option within SFA regulations. Which it isn't. Ergo SFA going soft on Rangers......again.

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Caraway has resigned from the panel!

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21 Jul 2012 16:39:29
If you dont like the price of the SFA Licence then dont pay it ....stick to your guns and refuse all sanctions ...carry out the threat of NO RANGERS NO SCOTTISH FOOTBALL,,,,,stay out of the game and give the rest of Scotland peace and quiet.....the terms are in front of you take them or leave them whether you agree or not..if you want a new car the price is on the window ,,you pay it or walk away..so stop greeting and get on with whatever you decide to do...pay and play or dont pay and dont play...as the old saying goes " you made your bed now lie in it".....on another point why doesnt every team in SPL go into administration ..pay of all creditors with a substantial and agreeable CVA..then all teams can start league on -10 points and debt free ...ergo a level playing field for all..JohnnyG

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Would you pay £30,000 for a Lada Riva?

pappy

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Fair enough Johnny G.
Can't really argue with any of that mate.
Although RFC being given the option of taking a year out is an interesting one to consider.
P.O.B.

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Thanks P.O.B just fed up with it all.....fair or not just make a decision..and as for 1) a prime example of what i said dont want to pay the price ( £30,000 lada) walk away and dont take it....

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And never drive again? To continue our analogy. Lets all just bend over eh.

pappy

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The problem is "johnny g" rangers cannae walk off to another car lot to buy a decent car at a reasonable price. We're stuck paying £30k for the clapped oot riva it seems. As analogies go, that one's pure mince.

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Poster 1 how much would you pay me for a hillman imp lol doug t.s.o

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21 Jul 2012 15:49:04
It seems to me that the haters are out there for rangers, sobeit, but lets just wait to see the next club that has a few struggles. I guess within in the next year of so, we will see half the clubs in Div 3 with Rangers, as they will hit administration very shortly.

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"In the next year or so, we will see half the clubs in Divison 3 with Rangers" With? Are you planning staying down there?

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But administration won't mean division 3 - only liquidation makes that possible. Any other club will probably come out of administration through a CVA.

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Just interest yourself with your own club and don't wish ill on the rest of us.The 'hate' you talk about is brought on by remarks like your own.Heard Tam Cowan today and agreed with him.No 'hate' but fairness wanted.Not treated as a 'special' case and that's what happened in the end---long time coming though and should have been sorted out weeks before it was.No 'hate',mate ,just equlity.

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Equality (I think I've spelled it right) ? - Tam Cowan's team ? 2 years in admin, covering 3 seasons ..... SFA penalties - zilch ( they even funded them a few hundred grand - correctly in my opinion) - administrators got rid of 19 players - SFA let them replace with another 19 players (free transfers - again correctly in my opinion) - jeez as a blue nose I would love some of Tam Cowan's equality ....

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21 Jul 2012 15:21:20
Good on Southampton I say, whilst they are getting Davis on the cheap they are at least making some effort to compensate us. The likes of Everton & Stoke should take note on the correct way of doing things.

Saints have a new fan, well done.

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Money goes to old club, Davis never joined NEWCO, it will go to pay debt. So good on both him and Southampton for thinking of the peple we are due money.

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It's not Everton and Stokes fault that you cheated which resulted in your club being in the position it is now. You reap what you sow.

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The correct way to do things!!!! That is the best line I have ever seen on this site. Rangers have just walked away from millions of pounds of debt including football debt.................honestly that beggers belief. Pedro

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@1. You sure your Rangers minded? Green purchased the contracts from the old-co. That money went to the old-co. Any money earned by the new-co is the new-co's. CheltBlue

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Everton & Stoke have done nothing wrong,the players wanted to leave and you cant blame the clubs for taking the players,why cant you see that its so simple.

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21 Jul 2012 14:42:23
Over the last couple of weeks I have agreed with fellow bears that we need to move on and let bygones be bygones but no more.

The SPL wish to profit from any TV deal that would show Rangers games. The greed of these wee diddy clubs is extraordinary and this will not only affect the bears the wee teams in the SFL would have benefited too.

The directors of these wee diddy teams take a salary far in excess of what they are actually worth or are capable of producing. So they must hang on to what ever they can make from the biggest team in Scotland.

Rangers have been demoted to the fourth division, can't compete in Europe for 3 years, have to pay the football debts and fines of fraudsters.

The club is on its knees and they continue to kick it. Well I for one will never spend a penny if I know it will benefit any of these teams.

Lets start a campaign so that they know when the bears return to the top that they will get nothing from us. NOT A PENNY MORE should be our slogan.

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Just a thought but can the RANGERS supporters not sue craig whyte or David murray for what they have done to our club.

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Any ideas what basis in fact or natural justice the spl teams can claim a share of gers' tv rights in division three, or deny us entry unless further sanctions are meted out?!? This really is getting a trifle ridiculous. They had their much trumpeted say. An application to join the bottom tier should be up to Rangers, the sfa and the sfl. The more and more we go on with this, the more everyone will see what the spl clubs' primary motives have been all along in this affair- spitefullness and vindictiveness.

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The only punishment for administration was 10 points deduction as per the rules.

The fine of 160K which has not been paid yet and the proposed transfer embargo was for non payment to Taxes.

No European football next season was because the club did not file the appropriate accounts as per the rules.

The 3 year ban is because you are new co as per the rules.

You were not demoted or relegated, Rangers are to be liquidated, The new co have been given a place in SFL3 ahead of clubs like Spartans.

Your players left under employment law their choice not a punishment from anyone.

This is not punishment or kicking you when you are down this is the rules being followed , SFA, UEFA and FIFA rules.
If you do not wish these consequences for rule breaking do not ask for the transfer of the old rangers membership

The history of RFC can never be taken by anyone unfortunately and in reality they are gone start your own team with the fans by the fans and for the fans , yes you will need to start at joiner level and work your way up leave the crooks behind. Look at AFC Wimbledon on there way back the real Wimbledon not MK Dons

It is not the Rangers fans fault I understand this and feel for them but don't blame everyone else those that are to blame are the one who ran your club.

Dav (EDD this is not a go at rangers fans)

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I thought not a penny paid was your slogan. Tulip

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Dav - you make some good points but there is sporting integrity and just plain old fashioned integrity to be considered.

I understand about the 10 points, no champions league and so on and why they were applied.

The point is the SPL is a separate organisation from the SFL and the SPL voted RFC out so they should face the financial consequences of their decision. To demand a portion of another leagues TV income is pure greed. It will be the smaller teams that suffer financially.

I would like to see RFC turning their existing TV station into a product that is widely available at a reasonable price and offers live away games. I firmly believe that the RFC support must show their disgust at these wee diddy team by boycotting their grounds.

It will be a hoot when Sky, advertisers and sponsors decrease their financial commitment to the SPL because the product will be increasingly dire.

NOT A PENNY MORE

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Administration minus ten points (punishment)

Fine 160,000 and transfer embargo (Punishment for Craig Whyte bringing game in to distribute) has been agreed trust me.

Liquidated (Start again in division 3). Dont give me crap about Spartens, We bring more than Spartens end of.

Keeping up.

Players left under TUPE, could write a book anyway, your right not a punishment.

No Europe 3 years not punishment.

No champions league this year before Liquidation (punishment for no accounts)

EBT and dual contracts not proven, therefore should not be part of anything at this time. Criminal law unlike Civil law quite clearly states guilty beyond all doubt. Individuals have found us guilty without trial. If not why the talk of titles Not a fair trail I think.

Now we have the SFL Chairman saying lets move forward whilst the SPL claiming that we should have more sanctions and they may withhold SFL money unless they get a share of the Rangers TV deal.

As U2 said with or without you I cant live with or without you. Well me thinks the SFL which the SPL helped to create in its present form can live without them.

Hello Sky come on in.

Intergtyrt could spell it.

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21 Jul 2012 14:45:14
at least now we are aware we can bring in players to get us through div 3, maybe this rumour site can get back to transfer talk and let the backroom nonsense kinda die down a bit.

I'd love to see a lot of the young guys that came through murray park get a good run, no doubt they can do a job, but they will need some experience next to them. but who ?? suggestions ?

And for anybody who think div 3 will be a walk in the park will be in for a big shock, this is gonna be a rough season physically for our boys, proper meaty tackles and an old school style of play.

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21 Jul 2012 14:23:31
Everybody is on here about the mad scramble by the TV companies to secure the rights to our D3 games.

Has anyone considered that the TV companies see us the same way they saw Jade Goody - an oddity whose discomfort was put on screen for others to laugh at.

Lets face it they are not chasing us for the quality of the football.

What they want is to show film of how the mighty have fallen.

I also suspect that nothing would please them more than failure to be promoted as that would prolong the SFL version of Geordie shore or Keeping up with the Kardashians! - Jaxie

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21 Jul 2012 12:43:35
WALTER SMITH SAID IT

MARK HATELY SAID IT

STEVEN NAISMITH SAID IT

STEVEN WHITTAKER SAID IT

RICHARD GOUGH SAID IT

CHARLES GREEN SAID IT

IAN DURRANT SAID IT

DAVE KING SAID IT

SAID WHAT? THAT LIQUIDATION WOULD END RANGERS

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You say that but still we won't go away !

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Guess what so did all you celtic fans say it.At the end of the day all the rest said it would be the end of rangers in their current form we will rise again you lot will just need to come to terms with that.Us fans will save rangers you just watch.Motherwell today 4200 for a testimonial at fir park against everton rangers third div team against amateur team kelty hearts a sellout.Us fans will save rangers we are just waiting to make sure we get a license.

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We are still and always will be
Rangers football club

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@2: the fans didn't do much to save Rangers before liquidation, did they? All those supposed millionaire Rangers fans just sat on their hands and did nothing and the Fighting Fund raised what, £600k?

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The facts say you are "The Rangers". The facts say you are a new team. The facts say the old Rangers are in the process of administration and will shortly be entering liquidation under BDO, appointed by HMRC.
Facts are bloody awkward at times arent they ?

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Remember you have not been liquidated yet

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Your not grasping it yet mate - the oldco will be liquidated - the newco business who now own Rangers are very much alive and kicking - just how thick are you ?

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21 Jul 2012 13:04:20
What are we to think bears?Have we really lost our club and it's history?
According to law Green shouldn't even be using The Rangers as its synonymous with Rangers.
We were founded in 1872 and incorporated as a company in 1899. The website states that, the club became the company then.
If liquidation didn't have these consequences Murray would've done it, Whyte would've done it.
Everybody would be at it!
Duff and Phelps document states up
Until the CVA was rejected the club would be intact From
Then it states the assets stadium etc would be all that was on offer.

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When the liquidation officially starts the rules will be set.The name,badge and colours cannot be too similar to the liquidated club.Major shocks in store here i think.

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Oh dear....what a shame.....Rangers will be no more. And before you all start spouting that you'll never stand by your team and they'll always be Rangers and you don't do walking away.....and all that stuff....forget it, you DO do walking away and so do your players.
Anyway.....a new name for your club....Sevco Govan FC....or The Losers from The West Side FC.....or Chancers and Cheats FC.....the list is endless!

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

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@2. I be worried about your teams latest euro performance. 4-0 loss to Ajax.

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@3: in a friendly, not a competitive match.

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Hi chris bhoy you missed out neil lennon and the easybeats ,whens your next gig at the barrowland lol doug t.s.o

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Yeah, it was a friendly, for both teams, but you are right, It wasn't competitive.

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21 Jul 2012 13:08:19
hi have rangers paid there footballing debts, they owe clubs over three million, after that is paid you should be allowed to buy players and not before....b

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Maybe the clubs who owe RFC money should get the same treatment then.

'The publication by Duff and Phelps also shows Rangers are owed £3.8m from other football clubs "in respect of deferred transfer fees which fall due over a period of time up to May 31, 2014".'

Or is that not sporting integrity, morally right or is a different matter altogether because it is the oldco and you're posting a load of p!sh.

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And YOU have decided this have you? What gives you the right to decide when Rangers sign players? Maybe you should forward your address to Ibrox so Mr Green can consult you when we are about to get the players we need just to put a team on the park.

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What about the money they are owed by other clubs ?

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At the time of liquidation we owed clubs £3.2m and were owed £3.9m from other clubs. So we should pay the £3.2m but the newco don't get £3.9m.
You should get a job for SPL as their mantra of sporting integrity matches yours.

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Any monies due are owed to the old club being liquidated and not the brand shiny new club. Those monies will pay for D&P and then BDO to liquidate.

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@5 well should the football debtors money not be covered by the football creditors money then

JG

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21 Jul 2012 12:53:45
Attendances for this season bears?

I think we could end up with Ibrox having attendances as low as 4000 maybe 5000, 6000 or 7000!

We'll be lucky to have 20,000 on a good day.

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With season tickets costing £80 for division 3, im sure you'll be able to get at least 10,000 :D
frankiebhoy

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If we have as much as 20,000 per home game for the season and increasing as we go through the divisions under good stewardship and responsible income outgoing management that will set us up perfectly to make an impact on what is left of the spl on our undeniable return.

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Probably ok at start of season but will drop off in Nov etc when weather bad and playing some duff team you wouldn't watch even on t.v.Hope I'm wrong.

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This is where the true Bears will have to show our strenth, support the team 100 o/o Every game, no matter what!

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21 Jul 2012 12:50:35
Whyte & Ticketus are involved in what's happening somewhere along the lines.

The warning signs are there Gers!!

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20 Jul 2012 23:48:17
can someone tell me please i just bought 4 shirts one for me and threee for the young lads... but im unsure if this kit will be worn next season and im scared i've lost that money as the boys are wearing them. ed do you know anything concreate?

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Dont be afraid. Youve not lost any money. You entered into a transaction with a mercant. You gave said merchant mone,y said merchant suplied you with the goods you wanted. Simples.

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I take it the M77 wasn't concrete enough for you Ed??.....how about the M8?


taco

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Naw the m77 was shut both roads at kilmarnock on friday 6th july ,nae place for the water to go doug t.s.o

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21 Jul 2012 12:30:50
Spl pass the buck to sfl the sfl accept us into third division no problems with that here .now those greedy bar stewards see the wee clubs are going to make a few quid they want some of it too where's their integrity now so sick off them all bleating to punish us more when do we just say enough is enough

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How can the spl possibly claim some of the tv money off the sfl ,donald findlay get off your ass and put these people in their place once and for all ,i urge all true gers supporters to take nothing to do with anything that raises funds for the sfa and spl ,let them stew doug t.s.o

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21 Jul 2012 12:24:25
The SPL are demanding more sanctions they want a share of any t.v deal that the SFA sign for the thrid Divison! this is getting beyond a joke it was their decison to expell rangers from the SPL that was the punishment! How can they ask for t.v rights for the thrid divison when Rangers where kicked out of the SPL i agree with paying all football debts but our punishment is playing thrid divison football. The SPL have set a precedent and any teams that end up in the same position as Rangers will have to face the same sancitions and im sure we will see plenty of them in the coming year!

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Why should the SPL suffer financially for 3 years and the SFL gain because of Rangers crimes?
The SPL has a moral right to try to recoup losses for SPL shareholders and fans.
Also Rangers cheated first and second place in SPL over 12 years, that's about £18m prize money owed back. Not even going into lost euro revenue for other SPL teams.
Then there's the footballing debts......
The SPL has every right to chase this money.

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To 1) Why can't the SPL just decide on punishments instead of making them up as we go along ? How the hell can any club recover if it's not going to be allowed to ?

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Yup prize money that the old firm brought to the table not the spl! tv deal and sponsorships wouldnt be anywer near ass high as they were if it wasnt for old firm selling....also how much of the spl money filters thro to the sfl........point made

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Well claim RANGERS as we are a newco & havent even kicked a ball yet remember

big D

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1)your mwell,du,sm,hibs ect cost Scottish football 55million when they voted for setanta over sky and if you include the new deal being another 40million short of sky's 120million offer. That's 95million they have cost the game so if they are suffering financially it's because of two factors them being your chairmen's greed and stupidity. Potty there are no sanctions for that.

Blueice

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21 Jul 2012 12:17:31
Just a rough guide to the last five seasons ins and outs rangers transfers in 38 million rangers transfers out 38 million Celtic transfers in 35 million Celtic transfers out 30 million.so why are we being accused of overspending to win titles by hinkel

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You're not being accused of overspending by hinkel....you're being accused of spending money you didn't have, or intend to ever pay back....there's a big difference

and it's not in the last 5 seasons we're talking about, it's the last 12 or so years


taco

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You never could or would intend to pay the money for these players.....thats the whole point! In the same way Murray never invested 1p of his own cash....rangers effectivly borrowed money to buy players, similar to any higher purchase agreement however never intended on paying this back. Celtic have been and will continue to pay what they owe.....

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21 Jul 2012 11:35:50
There's been a few people on here saying that after the treatment we've received from the SFA, they won't be going back to watch Scotland play. Whilst I accept that everyone is entitled to their own view, I just want to point out that though the SFA are the governing body, they are not Scotland and they are not Scottish football.

If you no longer go to games, it's not the SFA that suffers, it's the Scots lads on the pitch playing their hearts out for the jersey.

Couldn't care less about the SFA but I'm a Scottish man and I'll always support our team.

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Well said braveheart.
Scotland is a greater calling. A unifying force across club divides. The tartan army truly wear all colours.

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21 Jul 2012 11:32:46
I may be clutching straws here and I dont know if this has already been discussed.

We will be banned from signing players from 1/9/12 until 31/8/12. If you look at the calender this date falls over the weekend. Anytime a transfer window is set to close over a weekend it is actually extended to the monday which would be 2/09/12.

I understand it is a very short space of time but would we be able to sign players before the window slams shut at 6pm on the monday. Possibly have a few deals in place waiting for the ban to end?

Thoughts/clarification bears?

Copey Loyal

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OP i take it you mean 2013, in my eyes a year ban is for 365 days no more no less, not a year and a couple of days

JG

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21 Jul 2012 11:31:52
What a joke the spl is,now they are money grabbing from a club on its knees ,i hope every Rangers fan go to every game this season,and show the yellow livered chairmen,that,we are the people,we are the club,and we will be back,bigger better,and chastened for our experience,fill Ibrox,get behind the loyal lads that stayed,and the new lads who may come in.Rangers ,more than a club.See you all at Ibrox.

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You seem to be missing the point that the "club on its knees" caused all the problems themselves

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21 Jul 2012 11:27:26
Unbeliveable the cheek of them asking for media rights!
How many ways will they try to kick us when we are down?

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21 Jul 2012 11:12:33
Well it's decision time Bears.
I called the Ticket office yesterday and was told they were waiting on approval from the SFA.
The decision did come later in the day via an SFA statement declaring we had accepted the transfer embargo.
This is later refuted by our chairman Malcolm Murray.
So who is telling the truth?
Malcolm Murray said the SFA's statement is premature.
This suggests to me that Rangers have agreed in principal without actually having signed the agreement.
It is also blatantly obvious that we are being held to ransom by the SFA.
No acceptance of sanctions. No licence.
So it looks like a lot of head shaking and and nodding took place yesterday,but not much else.
Then we have the SPL still hounding us.
The SPL are now demanding a cut from our TV deal. Is this to offset the loss to the SPL clubs who may struggle without us,despite kicking us out on the grounds of sporting integrity? What a shambles!
Yet there ae those who say there is no witch hunt!
I also have lingering concerns over Craig Whyte and his "floating charge" claims.
It seems to me the new board have been less than pro active in an attempt to convince us otherwise.
If transfer of oldco share is accepted,we have eight days until our first game.
I want to support my club. The money is lying there waiting. Had the ticket office accepted my offer yesterday,it would have been sitting in RFC's account this morning.The later events of yesterday afternoon have made me doubt whether that would have been a wise move.
Mr Green and Mr Murray have got some explaining to do.
They need to convince us that JB's accusations are unfounded.
They also need to clarify the situation regarding who we are,what we are, and where we are going.
P.O.B.

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21 Jul 2012 11:08:14
So if rangers recieved money for Davis does that mean then we shld get a fee for likes of naisy and whits??

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21 Jul 2012 10:37:55
Cant believe what I have read from our chairman today - The SPL want a share of our media rights - What the hell is going on its hard to contemplate the total cheek and arrogance of the clubs in the SPL - they can take a flying F**K to themselves!

Gers1986

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Its a f+cking outrage 1986. I would love to tell them to shove it!

GDog
RTID

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21 Jul 2012 10:33:20
forget all these boys like healy, novo, mols coming back. They done their bit. I'd rather see the youngsters like hemmings and barrie Mckay get a chance to show what Murray Park has produced.

Seebs23

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21 Jul 2012 10:09:57
good morning bears,, just been reading all your wish lists for new signings, beattie, novo, neillson, black, etc. all these guys would want thousands per week , as i said last week you will be playing against teams who earn £35 + busfare. a wee dig now,, i know your youth team are not as good as celtics but they should be good enough to get you out of the third , and through the first half of the second. and that is when you should start spending. money spent before then would be a waste. now remember the first line of your reply is . p1ss off and mind your own business.. but you know it makes sense.. shamrock

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Op - how thick actually are you, its not the teams we play against that will determine our wage structure, we are still better supported than 91.66% of the teams in the SPL therefore ya muppet we can match or better those teams when it comes to wages
now p1ss of and mind your own business

JG

JG

JG

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21 Jul 2012 10:07:35
All these SPL clubs who don't
want us, don't need us to support
them financially, so tell me, why are
they wanting a percentage of our
money from any TV rights deal thats
agreed? I ask you all, not to sign up
to these packages, but support our
team through the turnstiles and
know that your money is going to
our club - not others!

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Is it not the sfa the governing body who would be asking for % of tv rights as they are the governing body .should be no grumbling about that .ask yer man ogilvie he should be in the know. geo.

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21 Jul 2012 09:59:26
It'll be a difficult few years but I really hope that a nwe, clean, well run Rangers can fight their way back to the SPL asap and return to normal.

The decent Rangers supporters have taken a real beating but I hope they will not succumb to reprisals and a revival of religious hatred.

Go for it and welcome back.

Jambo

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OP - 'reprisals'? all of the spl clubs' fans announced a boycott of clubs who dared vote yes to the newco for the spl. Slipped your memory?

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21 Jul 2012 09:52:13
Hi all,

Just to let you all know that I have just profiled Allan McGregor, and it is available over on the player profiles website, so please do take a look, and I look forward to hearing your feedback, negatives and positives.

Thanks

Burnsy

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21 Jul 2012 07:47:39
Does anyone know if the SFA / SFL have any power in blocking any attempt by the SPL to gain a portion of the TV money generated by our team and the SFL ?, i for one cannot understand why they think they are entitled to 1p from the SFL money by the inclusion of rangers in the division

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21 Jul 2012 06:59:18
4 step plan.

1. remember 1 contract now for each player ...simple

2. dont spend what you dont have or you will be back again in administration

3. all your bears out there who dont renew your season ticket...your killing your own club. so renew

4. green is the only player ...until a time where you can buy your club back ...fan ownership but not ran by anyone who had connection to the old, they were all responsible

i hope you do and i am a celtic fan.....hurry back i am missing you already.

wont take you long...league restructure in 6 months, one season and you will be back playing us

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21 Jul 2012 02:51:40
Couldn't make it up - ex celt - moyes - praising Celtic re finances and sticking the boot into Rangers! Stv.

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What I heard were correct and honest comments from Davie Moyes.He said Celtic were often criticised by their own fans for NOT spending on players but had kept good housekeeping and it paid off.Truth told--what's your problem?He's a great football person.

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21 Jul 2012 02:47:11
Who do my fellow bears beloeve should captain our club in our revival? Personally i think it has got to be lee mcculloch? Guy truely is a ger, offering to play for nothing in our time of need, staying with the club in our lowest moment in our great history.

Sceptics will say he is washed up or made enough money from us. But, how many people would offer to play for free?

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Not going to get same money elsewhere thats why he still there same as other lee if he leaves needs to go back to hearts so not really heros just there for the money

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@1 here for the money - can you not read? he offered to play for free at end of last season and deserves a new contract to offer some experience and help bring on some of the younger players

JG

JG {Ed039's Note - He would be invaluable in SFL3 IMO)

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21 Jul 2012 01:51:24
What a joke the sphell don't want us but want a slice of our media rights. How idiotic are they it's like saying you can't play with us but we are using your ball and give me your jumper and trousers for goalposts. When will it all stop if you want money contact all those who contacted you to vote no to newco and tell them to put up or shut up

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21 Jul 2012 00:54:40
i think if we can't get Craig Beattie we should go for Livingston Striker Marc McNulty he would be willing to join us even though he is a Celtic Fan but he is a good player and has been for years

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21 Jul 2012 00:52:51
This is totally taking the piss now. After the spl vote us out of the league they still want a cut of out media rights. This is unbelievable. Thy voted us out, why should they get a cut of any money? If anyone should benefit it's the sfl and the teams in it. I thought nothing more could Piss me off after everything thats happened but I'm fu**ing ragin now

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I have a shop near an Asda, can I get some of their profits?
How desperate can Doncaster & co get?

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Too right mate. The spl broke away from the sfl to beef up the tv money for the top flight and left the lower clubs rot. What happened to sporting integrity?

The spl are sh!t!ng themselves now because they have realised that the Sfl have a more attractive product for potential tv deals.

Wise auld bear

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Needs all 5 parties agreement to let Rangers back in, SPL currently refusing it. On first reading I thought wow that's a bit harsh but bear in mind the disruption Rangers have caused to everyone in the SPL here, not the fans, not the players at Rangers but we are going over old ground going down that road. Bottom line is the club did wrong in a number of ways and maybe this is some form of financial renumeration by the SPL for their misdemeanours.

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It sort of leaves the we don't need rangers argument dead in the water. I've never been a supporter of the boycott other clubs until now.

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FFS they didn't vote you out! You are a new club so you were not in it to start with! What's hard about that to understand? You should be grateful you have a league to play in.

Briggs

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What a bunch of greedy beggers they are,did not want us in spl but want money we generate for sfl,sfa should tell them to get stuffed!fed up bear

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You couldnt make it up these parasites have lived of our team for years the spl of integrity havnt finished yet .

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Don't quite understand what the SPL have to do with this? After all we are in the SFL now, nothing to do with the SPL - trying to blackmail us with media rights is the final straw. A pox on all their houses each and every one.

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As far as i know they have no powers now to demand anything sfa give out the licence not spl and cant demand any money if they do then the way i feel i would rather see no tv deal us fans should and must insure spl get no funds off us til we reach the spl again only to uphold sporting integrity...mark.

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The bottom line is the spl is a bunch of corrupt greedy self centred pile of sh-t.This aint being spiteful before anyone accuses me but when we get back to the SPL we should never visit another teams ground to show that we disagree with their corrupt way.And before anyone laughs about a rangers fan calling anyone else corrupt.Yes ourv great club was run into the ground by the biggest bunch of corrupt sh-ts ever but we are paying for it now and we need to make sure that we never have anything to do with corruption ever again and the SPL IS FULL OF IT.

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Your bang on.

Its embarrassing what they are doing right now. The end is nigh for the SPL. If clubs go bust as predicted. The SFL will hold all the cards and form a new Premier League.

Big changes to come.




GDog
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Briggs you say we are a new club? does the spl demand money off other new clubs in the sfl. and is it fair to be punished twice for what craig sh*te did to us? already have a fine and transfer embargo. now the spl want to convict us twice for the same crime (shameful) and dont forget before you bang on about ebt's double contracts we are innocent til proved guilty...mark.

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5) didnt they vote not to accept newco in spl then had the cheek to slate sfl teams for doing the same regarding sfl1 application. They have been bitching for years that they don't need us and now want a share of tv rights for a league they are not even in. Priceless brass necked.

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21 Jul 2012 00:35:44
Don't care what anyone else thinks but I'm buying my season ticket. I hope others think like me and we fill Ibrix every home game. Whatever Greens up to in the long term at the very least the guy has got us started. Brown is a no go. Even if he is a front, then the guys who back him are no good either would you choose him as a front?
I'm also looking forward to some good away games in some lovely parts of Scotland. Hello the 3rd, we come in peace and love. x

Time to start creating bears.
R-M

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Green has always said he was in it to steady the ship and then let the punters take over. He has been straight ,so far, so let's back him 100%. My season ticket ordered and will await revised price with interest. However, situation re sanctions may mean no football as sfa/spl are not playing the game. We cannot agree to all the intimated sanctions, but as the board say we must take some on to enable the sfa/spl to save face.

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Green has fought for us in every count ,what have the rest of them done F/ALL ,the so called we wont see gers liquidated people have done nothing but stir s-it ,if it wasnt for green we wouldnt have anything at all right now doug t.s.o

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20 Jul 2012 23:34:36
So I see the transfer ban haas been lifted, albeit for a short while. Time to rip up the contract and jump on the plane to Glasgow Mr Gattuso. Jump on the next train to London Novo and get your arse up to Ibrox. Don't think so. Rangers diehards? Yeah right!! As loyal as Judas.

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Yes as loyal as the judas,s that got part of their 10 pieces of silver lifted today by fifa ,at the going down of the sun they will be remembered doug t.s.o

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So you want Gattuso to do a Judas on Sion to prove he's not a Judas at Ibrox? You are very strange OP.

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These guys played for you in the past because they were professional footballers ie men who played football to earn a living.
Why would they leave their current employment to return ?
I left one job because I got a better one with a different employer . Should I return to the first one for less money and a less secure future ? Would you ? So why should these men be any different ?

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