Rangers Banter Archive February 21 2013

 

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21 Feb 2013 20:47:28
discussing at our local supporters club tonight about renewing season tickets - a member has highlighted the increase that green intends to impose on us all next season. On the back of that apparently the prospectus says green and all the other people on the board will get a bonus equivalent of 100% salary as a bonus just for promotion.
Season tickets going up by 25%-33% and bonuses being handed out to the board in excess of £3m.
And this is the info that's in the public domain!

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Time for Charlie boy to understand, we appreciate the fact that we have a team on the park, but there is no way he will rip the **** out of us. We will back the team but don't think we will do this out of blind faith. We were taken for clowns in the past by shysters and to try it again will be his ruination. Let him show his commitment by freezing the season ticket prices and refusing all bonus payments. Now that would earn him and his board good brownie points.
billyb

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This was all in the prospectus as you say but was not questioned. Even the supporters of Mr Green must agree this is excessive for a third division title win. The worst part of it is that he has not brought any investment, apart from the IPO which is cloudy, in to the club. I suppose it would be acceptable if he had brought in let's say £4-6 million in kit and sponsorship deals, but so far nothing has been signed. I wonder what the bonus structure for the players and coaching staff amounts to? There does seem to be a lot of money going out and very little coming in. The fact Mr Green is negotiating payment for football debt would suggest funds are there. You would hope after all his promises that an announcement might be made soon relating to sponsorships etc.

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The 2 mill we will get from the naming rights will cover wages and bounus mate

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Well Charlie,
The product is not worth the money just now, so I think charles is in dream land if he thinks all the season ticket holders will renew at increased prices. If I am totally honest it is like watching paint dry just now on a Saturday afternoon.

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Think Green needs to be careful regarding ticketing pricing for next season. No matter how the league construction goes or doesn't Rangers won't be playing against anyone much better than this season. IF prices are raised 25%-30% that could see a fall in purchases. Green got the pricing spot on this season let's hope he does the same again next season

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Get a grip posts 1 and 2 did you really think prices would be static as we worked our way through the divisions? Only a fool would think this.
Rangers need every penny and here you are squabbling over a few pound a year- Bet if Sky raised their prices there would be less of a grumble.
As we rise- prices must go up if we expect quality to improve and the team on the field to be better than the previous year and so on until we are in the top flight of whatever league set up we may be in.
As a Rangers fan from years gone bye the ticket prices did not influence me as to a season ticket or not I blindly follow my club where ever they may go and if that is oblivion so be it!
However I like many bears know that certain stories are untrue and have no substance or purpose other than to cause confusion among a strong support and these stories should be treated as such!
The next few days will prove to be pivotal to the cause and we should show patience and not let our loyalty waver all will be answered and accounted for. In Rangers We Trust.

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@6 Prices are never going to stay the same but 25-33% even you must see that is OTT in the current economical climate no matter how blind you are.

If Rangers need all the money they can get why is your board taking £3m in bonus for winning the Scottish 3rd Div.

You can see more grumbling from fans as CG's wild statements are still unanswered. You really need to be asking him some probing questions rather than what school did you go to.

I don't want to see your club die a 2nd time and this is what will happen if you don't stand up to Green and ask the probing questions that you should be asking.

Ian

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Seems Green bought rangers on borrowed money (like murray did!) but at HUGE interest rates, hence £3 million payback per year - for the £5m borrowed. sucking life out of gers for years to come.

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Trick is 9000 less ST last year, and 40% less income.

If still in div3 (re-construction) and same teams, why not same money, but get some of those 9000 back?

Or raise by 10%, 20%, 30% and risk loosing more than 9000 renewals. ?

brown trouser time approaches.

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Naming rights may be just share swap and so no real money exchanging hands, Ashley is real smart with his money. invest £2 million shares/swap means no money handed over.

gets ibrox renamed for peanuts.

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Has Charlie not previously rambled about 40,000 season tickets at an average of £500 each raising £20 million which MAY be given to Ally along with the £10 million already in the warchest? Plus, what's the prize money for winning Div 3 in relation to the bonuses handed out for winning it?

Paddy Malarkey

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Prize money for winning D3 title is £43k!

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To 6] As poster 1, I admire your blind loyalty but your logic is way off. I was taken to Ibrox as a youngster in the 50's and have been a fan ever since. I've seen the good and the bad over the years and have been ripped off at many away grounds, but will not be with these proposed increases.
To call me a fool for this logic is laughable and I think you need to have a good look at the real world as you must have more money than sense. Also, any bonus payments made to the board should be generated by themselves and their initiatives.
billyb

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@3. Please tell me you're joking.

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The 3million bonus money could strenthing us back to top league surely it would go a long long way in getting us challenging for top honours cheers

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21 Feb 2013 19:18:24
In the words of the song, Simply the best, better than all the rest, Rangers, best supported team in Scotland by far. Soon to be champions again, not a tainted title, won fair and square against the best in Division 3. No excuses. Rangers always.

Believable30 Unbelievable52

Well said my friend we are simply the best and always will be.
trueblue

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Congrat, s on 1st title garlar07

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I think you will find that in all the leagues winners in Scotland, will all win fair and square against the others in there leagues

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@3 although I agree, there will always be the same question hanging over the SPL title no matter whether you are Rangers or Celtic and that is "Would you still have won it if Rangers were still there?". The fact is we will never know the answer to that now will we?

Ozzie Al

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@4. unlike you we are happy to be dealing with reality. celtic can only beat what's in front of them. however if you want to engage in fantasy football I think the last time rangers ever visited celtic park answered your question. add to that the incompetence of your management team in the zombie club and there would be no question. ally would be lucky to avoid relegation. (witness dufc). every manager in the spl and 1st division is better. unless you want to fantasise about an ebt financed team and ignore the consequences?

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Yeah, no different than usual, Europe saved Lenny his job, you have flattered to deceive i'm afraid, the team lacks the motivation of Rangers in the league, an indisputable fact, the title will be a hollow victory, as Europe replaces the excitement of the Rangers games, and you have no guarentee of a successful run next season, again fact.

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21 Feb 2013 14:53:39
Charlie was not a happy chappy By not lifting the award for best TRIBUTE ACT at last nights brit awards. Chin up Charlie, as soon as all your claims and promises are put on DVD it will have a clean sweep at the Brittish Comedy awards. SM.

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21 Feb 2013 16:46:26
@ Lochaber Bear when you all stop "biting" lol
By the way with your 500Million fans (C) Mr Green, I thought you would have been a stick on for that award if more of you voted. lol Timalloy

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It's a bit like a player who gets stick from opposition fans, if he wasn't any good they wouldn't bother.

We only get this abuse because that's the only way they can get at us.

My advice laugh it off stay strong we will be back and settle a few scores when we do.

Just think how much these fans hated getting pumped by the oldco can you imagine the froth when we come back and pump them again

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Hey ed can you let the post above know that the name Lochaber Bear is in use and has been for quite a while

The real Lochaber Bear

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Don't knownof any tribute act that gets more fans than the original act. Do you?

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The tribute act is never as good as the real thing but they are half the price and the expectation level follows suit. you only get what you pay for.

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3)
The bears are going to have to be patient before "pumpming" anyone from the higher divisions - lots of pain to take in the near future

Enjoy the journey

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Theyd been better leaving the dvd release till xmas, who will get the most sales lennon or charlie, at least people will get a good laugh at lennons, I wonder if he will include st johnstones disallowed goal doug t. so

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@7 best comedy act is your obsession with lemon mate, starting to think its a wee bit unhealthy lol
Just make sure you wear protection we wouldn't want him catching anything would we lol
NaCS

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@4 A bear that actually realises he support's a new team EUREKA.
Tam

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21 Feb 2013 10:33:29
really hope green and murray sort there differences. last thing we need is to have yet more friction within the club. we need to be united as we get back. glad to see youngsters getting contracts. that's the way forward. not average foreigners. only good ones. there saying its too much hassle to let scottish teams into english football. but there is precedent. rangers way back played a couple of rounds of f a cup. and made semi finals. manager who has won most leagues. fergie. most f a cup winners. first second and third all scots. with 6 aston villa manager. blackburn manager on 5. fergie on five. we have made english football. so time we had slice of pie

Believable5 Unbelievable24

One minute your talking about "getting back" with good youngsters the next minute your wanting "a slice of the English pie" get the feeling your deluded and trying to run before you can walk. Just because there have been and still are successful Scottish managers in England doesn't give you a passport to the big league!

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So Ferguson wins most League titles that means Scottish clubs deserve a "slice of the pie" Are you mad?

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OP, I see Glasgow United are trying to get in to the English league. You could hang on to their coat tails and pretend to be a ladies team.
Al

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Dutch and Northern Irish teams are trying to get into the Scottish system given the success of Advocaat and O'Neill.

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