Rangers Banter Archive August 21 2020

21 Aug 2020 22:26:06
Does anyone think Kilmarnock has watched us last Sunday then decided - we'll do the same as Livingston and park the bus and play for a draw? Boring boring football, shouldn't be allowed.

21 Aug 2020 22:48:36
Killie said they are looking for a win and they didn't half take the game to Celtic.

21 Aug 2020 23:29:05
they will play exactly they way they play. to frustrate then hope in the second half they can get a goal. only difference we don't have our own crowd there to start hissing and booing at our players. expect rangers to win.

22 Aug 2020 06:12:18
We got to the uefa cup final playing boring football. You can't blame boring football for our failings, that's just an excuse👍.

22 Aug 2020 08:07:24
Boring against Fiorentina and Livingston are very different!

22 Aug 2020 08:15:24
Shoot for goal, and stop trying to walk the ball in, easy answer to these deep defences, then, if you score, they have to come out and will leave gaps for us to expose.

22 Aug 2020 08:21:00
Us playing anti football against fiorentina is the same as livingston playing anti football against us👍.

22 Aug 2020 08:25:54
Kilmarnock wil do what they always do, park it! Yes I’m with coldo we played similar way in UEFA cup final run. To say but we were playing fiorentina there’s a big difference is nonsense. Our budget was way less than theirs, probably on par with what Livingston and ours is . Same difference. We just simply need to find away to combat these teams!

22 Aug 2020 09:58:15
Teams find it much more difficult to park the bus away from home.
Rangers will win against killie.

21 Aug 2020 21:31:14
Here we go again 3 1st team players out injured and season just starting.

21 Aug 2020 21:43:40
6 counties that’s why teams have squads.

21 Aug 2020 22:59:28
Guys, what are the injuries to Balugun and Aribo, I was hoping they would both be fit for Saturday. We have the squad to cope though, we have to shoot more tomorrow, don't overplay the ball in and around the 18 yard box.

22 Aug 2020 10:06:39
SG says they will be back next week Irvger.

21 Aug 2020 18:25:07
Just a thaught when fans are aloud bk the only way to get rid of plastic pitches is to boycot those stadiums any 1 agree.

21 Aug 2020 19:28:20
Said before. Boycott all away grounds. Pitches aside. I ain't givin them a penny because they all tried to kill our club. Give them nothing and hope they drop to the third division. Hope they all go bankrupt. We're doing well and could join a different league in the future. We won't be stuck in the corrupt, biased spfl for ever. A different league will be announced in the future and we will be included.

21 Aug 2020 20:11:40
Rossco they all managed the 4 years we were out the league no bother? No chance we should boycott when fans are allowed back in. Team needs are full support in the stands. Besides away days far better atmosphere and day out. If u take away celtic games. We will almost always take full allocation handed out whether or not couple thousand boycott or not. What about cup games at ibrox when away team gets big cut of the gate. Boycott that too?

21 Aug 2020 20:15:23
No point at all boycotting clubs, trying to destroy them based on what their chairman did 10 years ago. No chance Rangers will leave Spfl and the way to get rid of plastic pitches is get clubs to agree to it and vote it through. There won't be any significant fans this season at any games so boycott won't work.

21 Aug 2020 21:09:45
Rossco only flaw with your plan is how do you get everyone relegated to third division? 🤣.

21 Aug 2020 17:29:44
There has been talks and remarks about Morelos.

One inpertictural stating forget Morelos and unleash Roofe.

To me Morelos still the most dangerous ST in Scotland, bullies DEF, scores goals and assists them too.

We are 4 games into the season he's scored 2 and assisted 2. Now for me that's a good return. Although would like it to be more. But fans and pundits saying he's unfit, not in it anymore, but the guy must be in it for Gerrard to not just play him but to start him.

I say give the guy the backing we did last year and let him be our top man again. All this negative vibe about transfares might be getting to him. But he's still our player till then back him with our hearts to get this team too 55.

Thoughts?

21 Aug 2020 17:58:26
Feel like Borna is now becoming our key player. Also if I am totally unbiased, Édouard is a better striker than Fredo. From what I hear of neutrals and those outside Scotland, more buzz is about him.

21 Aug 2020 18:53:26
In all honesty, I'd rather have Édouard on the books than Morelos, he's a far better all round player.

21 Aug 2020 19:20:08
Eduardo probably is a better player the Morelos. He should be he cost them £9m.
Morelos has been fantastic value for money.
In the stats between the two, there's very little in it when you compare goals scored and assists.
With Morelos with slightly better goals record.

21 Aug 2020 20:05:46
Yeah they payed £9m for him but in returns probs only make £5-6m, Where's is we sell morelos we make big profit for a player that cost £1.5m.

We all have our opinions. But I feel that the gers side would say Morelos would be better if he scores against Celtic.

21 Aug 2020 20:19:03
to actually answer the OP question (was nothing to do with Edouard) I'd stick with Morelos, Roofe still looks a few yards off the pace. Ease the new guys in and then decide who is best to start.

21 Aug 2020 23:05:58
Let's not get too carried away with Morelos, he's rotten at the minute, read Barry Ferguson today on his performance last Sunday, should be benched tomorrow, and Roofe or Itten to start, just my opinion guys.

21 Aug 2020 23:37:34
fickle fans indeed. only last year we were advocating Morelos as being best in Scotland, you don't stop becoming a good footballer. his confidence has dropped and his agent is doing him any favours either. He should not be able to agree terms with any team until they reach agreement with the club first. how would you feel if a company offered you a new job at higher wages then your own company won't release you. i know how i would feel. therefore it should never be allowed in football.

22 Aug 2020 00:20:37
Easy answer to that- don't sign a contract saying you are happy with the terms for the length of it.

22 Aug 2020 06:17:11
But he did stop becoming a good footballer👍.

21 Aug 2020 16:57:29
Anyone got any info of the Plymouth game yet?

21 Aug 2020 17:10:02
King Walter we win 3-2.
Picking up we played a real mix.
Believe Itten tav scored and mb mcpake
It was only about leg time no one played 90 minutes.

21 Aug 2020 15:08:48
Just watched Gerrard press conference, might sacrifice a midfielder against Kilmarnock. Have been saying 352 but what about 442? Like advocat played usually only one winger at a time of say kanchelskis was on the right Alberta was left. McCann on left Reyna played right. Mcglaughlan, rb tavernier cb goldson, cb hellander, lb Bassey, rw Kent cm jack, cm Aribo, left mid barasic, strikers Itten and Morelos.

21 Aug 2020 15:34:15
No chance that team, Barasic a lb. Aribo not even in squad
Bgate.

21 Aug 2020 15:38:42
I don’t think SG will change from 4-3-3 bgate. However if I was going 4-4-2 think I would go:

Mcglaughlin

Tav Goodson Balogun Barasic

Kent Jack Hagi Aribo

Alfredo Itten

Depending on what frame of mind Alfredo is in I would maybe change to Roofe. Maybe getting dropped might be the rocket he needs.

21 Aug 2020 16:02:08
Baz. Listen to Sg.
Balogun and Aribo not in squad.

21 Aug 2020 16:08:42
Was just a thought. Forgot Aribo injury. Thought barasic could play left mid but realise he’s a left back now although started out on the wing in Croatia.

21 Aug 2020 16:25:33
John 25 the voice of reason! Are you in fact Steven Gerard or one of his staff?

21 Aug 2020 17:03:51
Never happen but would like to see us go to a back 3, Tav and Borna as wingbacks/ wingers. Jack holding and then creativity from Hagi and Kent and a bit of help for Alfie up top!

McLaughlin

Goldson
Helander
Bassey

Tavernier
Jack
Hagi
Kent
Barisic

Morelos
Itten.

21 Aug 2020 17:07:59
No king I read and listen.
Also can’t believe some say may drop a midfielder
He said no as our two full backs play so hi.

21 Aug 2020 17:42:34
Correct John25, but some on here just don't have the knowledge or understanding of our set up and how gerrard sets up our team with the high full backs and jack and kamara filling into the gaps that tav and barisic leave in their forward runs 👍.

21 Aug 2020 18:44:21
John 25 it was a bit of fun question. Get a grip. Bored listening to Sg press conferences. No one knows on here what team will be until an hour before kick off.

21 Aug 2020 21:31:02
Baz I’m only saying these guys not in squad so lighten up.
We all can work out team. 433.

21 Aug 2020 12:28:09
For everyone who criticises our academy we have Seven players in the under 21 Scotland squad.
So players are developing, much better than the past.
Mcrorie mccrorie, although agreed to sell
Wright Middleton Kelly Mayo and Paterson.
These under 21 games are all good experience and hopefully we see some Prato first team.

21 Aug 2020 12:32:55
Totally agree John. The more good experience they get, the more likely they will get their chance at Rangers.

21 Aug 2020 12:36:50
I don't think anyone is criticising the academy John. i'm not anyway. I think there is just a frustration that we are developing and losing the talent. It would be good to see them get a chance with us. Its great that so many are getting into the Scotland 21s and does prove that the talent is there. let's see them make the next step though.

21 Aug 2020 13:21:14
Moc plenty are mate. All I’ve read is close it down, waste of money and effort
Every club develops and lose players it’s academy life.
Ask Glentoran, Ross county and Blackpool Who have lost players to us in last two months.

21 Aug 2020 14:00:56
John I don’t think anyone is criticised the academy mate genuinely

I think it’s more about the good young layers not getting a chance in the main team

Possibly should let them have there chance in cup games atleast in early stages when we’re drawn against teams in the lower league and bringing them on in a game when we’re a few goals up

Just trying to find a good way to introduce them into the first team without sacrificing the team when we need too be winning games

It’s a balancing act I think we still need to get right

As it would be good to see them breaking through

Would you agree mate?

We never really seen billy gilmour get a chance in first team up here yet has broken into. Chelsea 1st 11 on. A good few occasions 6-7 games anyway And he has looked very good

Be good to see some of our own break through 😊.

21 Aug 2020 14:11:54
Stigno this is not a go a u.
Gil Mour could only play for rangers in Scottish cup as he had not turned 16. U cannot play in top division in Scotland till u turn 16.
He had already accepted a bid from Chelsea to sign for them when he was 16: with a gaurenteed pro deal on his 17 birthday. That’s the rule in England. Apparently that took his wages to 20k,
He could never get that in Scotland . How can u be highest paid player at gers at 16.
Same reason dire mebube is going to Man City for an alleged 30 k a week.

21 Aug 2020 14:28:31
Ridiculous money down there

But I’m just saying for us to find a way to get young guys breaking into the team

When there not getting headhunted with thousands of pounds getting thrown at them

What would you suggest?

21 Aug 2020 14:31:20
The youngsters won't truly get their chance until the Celtic are stopped. Its that simple.

21 Aug 2020 14:31:29
And your right about age thing

That just slipped my mind when I said about gilmour

How do you think we will play at the weekend

Think he might have two up?

What’s your thoughts on a possible score line?

21 Aug 2020 14:48:24
John 25 do you think any of the current rangers under 21 players will make the grade at ibrox?

21 Aug 2020 15:03:02
Surely we can play the odd youngster in say League Cup or Scottish Cup matches? I'm not suggesting for a minute that you suddenly put 3 or 4 youngsters into the team, but giving Patterson a run at right back for example? Otherwise, they'll never get a chance at Ibrox.

21 Aug 2020 15:09:59
I have high hopes for the present crop of young players. There has to be a path to the First Team. However, some young players will be sunk by the weight of expectation.

21 Aug 2020 15:31:38
Paterson is being introduced gradually. Hopefully some more will follow.

21 Aug 2020 15:38:22
B gate mccrorie goalie Yes
Kelly is excellent, but not getting game at Ross county.
I’m not convinced re Paterson, Mayo yes.
Not seen enough of Wright.
Middleton no.
But u then sell the ones who don’t make it and invest again.
I’m told the three boys we signed in summer are standing out especially the lad Graham.

21 Aug 2020 15:40:29
Doiger we did. Kelly against Ayr, Paterson, Kennedy against Stranraer.
Then draw does not favour us given them games.
This is why we want reserves in lower league.

21 Aug 2020 15:41:04
Gus who do u see coming through.

21 Aug 2020 16:29:40
Mayo and Paterson. McCrorie will battle for the Goalies jersey next season. Barjonas maybe.

21 Aug 2020 16:34:27
John 25 how come Kelly is so good but can't get a game at Ross county? He's 20 now should be getting a game with that lot surely?

21 Aug 2020 16:52:55
I thought the lad Maxwell looked decent.

21 Aug 2020 16:56:38
A rangers colt team introduced into the league system would help blood our youth players.

21 Aug 2020 17:13:45
King Walter I agree. Heard rangers are ripping no game time.
He could have went to hearts but wanted tested in top league.
He is IMO our best young player.

21 Aug 2020 17:12:05
Maxwell is ok. Needs time only just 17.

21 Aug 2020 17:23:42
Bring them on when we are a couple of goals up?
When was that then?

21 Aug 2020 17:36:20
Suppose county picked an eleven for the first game and got off to a decent start so may not want to change it. Sure they done similar last season, then went to dug meat. So if form dips again we may see Kelly then.

21 Aug 2020 17:37:06
Can we not get Kelly back out of Ross county?

21 Aug 2020 17:46:52
Totally with you on that 68 👍
A rangers colt team in the bottom league would have been the perfect scenario for our young players and their development and education not to mention playing against tough season pros, which would have speeded their education and would have battle hardened them!

21 Aug 2020 18:00:06
Maxwell is 18.

21 Aug 2020 18:17:05
King, there is a break clause in Kelly’s contract December.

21 Aug 2020 18:48:18
Guys the salaries are crazy in football, I have two grandsons who I reckon are players,
One has been offered £50 a week. to sign part time at a Scottish championship club, just 16
The other is 14 been courted by many teams a championship club in England r offering a low four Sum when he is 16.
There is a young Ayrshire lad 14 who is the best around. He has had offers from over 30 clubs.
Their heads r turned every day of the week.
And before anyone asks none off my two interest old firm.

21 Aug 2020 21:32:13
Gus 57 be surprised if we extend Barjonas contract.

21 Aug 2020 11:07:27
I rate Kent very highly.

Holder Costa cost Leeds 16m from Wolves. I would consider him a squad rotation player.

As Kent is younger, English, and a key player for us, I can’t settle with getting less than 16m for him.

I would imagine most of us don’t want the headache of replacing Kent. But, every player has a price. What’s your minimum?

21 Aug 2020 11:42:29
Just think back to last season 90% of the support sayin we paid over odds at 7mill. If leeds offered 12 he's got to go. Think he could be replaced fairly easily. 7 goals and zero assist are not hard numbers to replace.

21 Aug 2020 12:17:41
By who Paul?

21 Aug 2020 12:49:29
Paul take it you don’t like Kent you keep referring back to last year we’re talking about this year his stats are 4 games 2 goals that’s hard to replace and he looks like he's going to be our most creative player.

21 Aug 2020 12:52:47
Exactly Paul86 - People are acting like the lad is Laudrup! The lad has bags of talent but simply doesn’t have enough end product.

Yes he can dribble past 3 players but 9 times out of 20 gets the ball taken off him when trying to go past the 4th.

He doesn’t offer enough in the final third.

And to those that say he always has 3 men on him so creates space for others - that only applies if you can pass them the ball which he very rarely manages.

Personally want him to develop and improve but at 23 I wonder how much development he has in him. I’ve certainly not seen improvement on Last year.

Hold out for £16M - buy Martin Boyle for £1M and that gives us time to find a suitable replacement with plenty of spare change.

21 Aug 2020 13:34:25
Anything North of £10 million and I'd sell. There's no doubting he has ability, but:-
1/ we overpaid for him in Scotland
2/ he has a questionable temperament
3/ too inconsistent
4/ not enough goals or assists
5/ we are a selling club. Tidy profit for a years outlay on a player who's flattered to deceive more than he has delivered.

21 Aug 2020 14:16:00
gers man i like kent. But these days everybody loves speakin about stats and figures. Unfortinately his are very very poor. If u look back i will say no dount he's talented but his position should be 12-15 goals a season an 10+ assists.

21 Aug 2020 14:19:59
Paul 86,rangers will never in a month of sunday's sell ryan kent for £12million! Rangers don't want to sell kent and it would take easily a bid north of £15million for rangers to even remotely consider the idea of selling him! He's a terrific talent, get behind the guy and our team why don't you 🤔.

21 Aug 2020 14:27:32
Fully behind him just sayin he could be replaced if were to leave. Think everybody not just myself would like to see hom produce a bit more in the final third sgl?

21 Aug 2020 14:30:28
Kent is a talented lad and I personally like him but he's not irreplaceable.

21 Aug 2020 15:22:51
Paul 86,are you actually aware my friend that ryan kent actually has a 1 in 3 goalscoring ratio for rangers which is very good for a winger.

21 Aug 2020 15:38:23
Well done on looking at his wiki sgl. bar the goal keepers he's also worst goal provider in the team which is worse than poor for a winger as u say.

21 Aug 2020 15:38:54
Kent is one of the best players at our club,
And zikos, people rave about kent because there's not another player like him in the team. If we sell or he gets injured who is his back up? Barker should never be anywhere near the squad, murphy and jones are not good enough.

21 Aug 2020 16:00:44
Sgl he actually has a 1 in 4 but who’s counting. Which means he won’t hit double figures most seasons!

That’s pretty poor - go and compare that with what’s over the road and it’s not surprising why we can’t win anything. When we are very poor people like yourself keep telling us everything is great. Well it’s not and neither is Ryan Kent!

20 Aug 2020 23:50:58
As everyone of my fellow bears on here will know both myself and coldo are big fans and rate rangers winger ryan kent very highly 👌
The majority of rangers supporters i've spoken to and read about rate kent pretty highly its safe to say. But there's a good few on here who don't rate kent highly at all and that's fine, because they're perfectly entitled to their opinions! So to gauge the feelings of our supporters on here regarding ryan kent,
could you please run a poll for me ED?
The poll reading, should we sell ryan kent for £10million, for £10-£15million, for £15-£20million, £20million + or not for sale at all for now? Thanks ED, very much appreciated pal 👍.

{Ed033's Note -


Sell Ryan Kent poll

21 Aug 2020 00:47:04
SGL, you rate every Rangers player highly as you do with every Rangers manager. I appreciate your loyalty though. PS. Remember we had a bet regarding Dykes. LOL.

21 Aug 2020 02:35:27
Means nothing, SGL, in fact it shows that 63% would sell him now.

21 Aug 2020 03:07:12
Ryan Kent is the most overvalued player we have. he’s no better than any of the other wingers we have, so little return on so much money. I agree that he has talent, but I’d say he, like Morelos haven’t shown any of the talent that we’ve seen in the past. Kent’s a bit of a one trick pony and defenders know exactly what he’s going to do every time. I’d bite anyone’s hand off that offered £10 million as In current form I can see him being benched. Maybe the weight of the jersey is too much for him, maybe he’s trying too hard. but he’s never been the player we had during his loan spell. Let’s face it lads the team haven’t moved on from last season, Gerard doesn’t have a plan B, or C in his locker, maybe our most valuable players are being wasted because he can’t set the team up right to support them, either way there’s big problems ahead this season with Gerard at the helm, and before you all jump down my throat, I’m not suggesting we get rid of him, that’s just too expensive an option but hand on heart I just can’t see him learning from last seasons mistakes and unfortunately 10/ 11/ 12 in a row is a horrible reality we might have to face. We are maybe too caught up in 10 iar anyway, how many seasons were their main rivals out of the league.
I know a bit of a rant but I’ve been wanting to get this off my chest for a while and follow this site every day. I just don’t think we should ever have had a rookie manager, no matter how big the name, his deficiencies in tactical awareness are glaringly obvious. how many of us knew after 10 mins on Sunday we had to change the formation, bring on another striker with 80 mins left would have been a different proposition. we know how Livi play, we know they won’t have many chances if any, so why do we need 2 holding midfielders and only 1 striker. especially when dykes couldn’t play . some of his decisions just beggar belief. I don’t profess to be a manager, but for god sake how can he not set the team up right in the first place . we could all have picked a team to get a win on Sunday and I just fear we will see this the whole season. teams park the bus against us and them. they just seem to either find a way through or get a dodgy decision or penalty . we don’t . Rant over lads. I know that was all on the back of the Kent poll but had a few beers and had to let off some steam .

21 Aug 2020 05:57:03
Actually think Kent is one of our better players so wouldn’t sell him especially as we already crying out for a right winger. Sell him and we’ll need a left winger too. I think he’d be hard to replace.

21 Aug 2020 06:34:15
If you cast your mind back the stuck i challenged you to the bet and the loser would give the agreed amount to the winner's chosen charity 🤔If my memory serves me correct my friend i asked you to name the bet and not a peep came back.

21 Aug 2020 06:56:50
I don’t dislike Kent I just think for the money we paid we could have got better IMHO someone he would actually get assists because he doesn’t.

21 Aug 2020 07:30:12
True blue who would you replace Kent with just asking?

21 Aug 2020 08:02:35
Kent not for sale this season. Yes he is a one trick pony but if he can contribute with more goals and assists not only will his value go up hopefully also help us win a trophy as he is one of a few in our team that has a spark in them.
I do agree with True-blue, I don't think SG gets the best from him due to his tactics in some games but that's a discussion for another day, hopefully not after the Killie game lol.

21 Aug 2020 08:03:12
Kent would struggle in the EPL and if we could get closer to £15m I’d take it. For £7m he has largely failed in Scotland.

21 Aug 2020 09:09:15
i would sell Ryan Kent in a heartbeat. One of the most over hyped players we have had in a long time. He has the odd bit of magic but not often enough and his stats are woeful for an attacker at a club like rangers

On loan when he won young player of the year ( no idea how that happened ) his stats were terrible. Apart from his performances against celtic he was bang average and never a 7m player

We all know we need wingers/ inside forwards/ attacking mids that can gives us double figures in goals and assists ( i know hard to find ) but for me Kent will never be that consistant

He either tries to much and losses the ball or just runs at players and i mean at them as into them.

21 Aug 2020 09:19:10
Just find it crazy he didn't have 1 league assist in a whole season. Really needs to start upping his game.

21 Aug 2020 09:30:40
I know it would be difficult for us to turn down a big bid, however I think if we did sell we would be sending out entirely the wrong message regarding challenging for the title. Kent is undoubtedly one of our best players and unless we move quickly to bring in a quality replacement we would be handing over the advantage to the other lot. The Morelos thing is completely different as he has said that he wants to move on whereas Kent is reportedly happy here. I suppose money will talk in the end but if Leeds are serious and want him I'd hold out for at least 15m.

21 Aug 2020 10:30:19
The only logic for me in selling a player is if you have someone ready to replace them or are confident that you can bring in a better player. Right now I do not believe that we are close to being in that position. Tomorrow Aribo is out again and we don't have a ready made replacement for him. It will inevitably mean that Gerrard will play Arfield and for me we will be playing with 10 men if that is the case. Before we start selling the few quality players that we have we need to bring in more quality players unless of course the manager finally realises that you can play with two up front!

21 Aug 2020 11:04:33
When rangers bought ryan kent for £7million, i agree guys it was probably a bit much, but you're buying potential. Wingers in general can be inconsistent and especially when they're young and still much to learn and potential to fullfil! I don't have one shred of doubt that kent will get better and better and although i also don't think at this moment in time, he's english premier league class, he will be in time,
mark my words fellow bears 👍👌
When we eventually do sell kent in a few years, it will be for a lot more than the leeds utd bid, of £10million! I know us supporters all have our opinions on everything rangers, whether it be ryan kent or castore merchandise, but surely the likes of steven gerrard, all his backroom team, kent's teammates,
neil mccann, jurgen klopp, barry ferguson etc, can't all be wrong when they continually wax lyrical about kent and how talented he is and how good he could become 👌Just think about it for a bit guys before coming away with all this imo s***e regarding kent! I'm delighted ryan kent is playing for glasgow rangers 👍😁.

21 Aug 2020 11:22:35
Berkshire aribo definitely out yeah? Havent heard anything?

21 Aug 2020 11:57:34
Paul, I'm surprised if he's still out, I didn't think the knock he picked up was too bad, but, I suppose that's what a squad is all about, big miss though.

21 Aug 2020 13:26:37
Paul listen to managers press conference no Aribo or balagon.

21 Aug 2020 14:24:35
We're not a two man team! With aribo and balogun out injured, head down and get on with it!

21 Aug 2020 17:58:53
Helander has played well imo and a wee change tomorrow and we'll beat Killie without big Joe.