Rangers Banter Archive August 21 2013

21 Aug 2013 23:03:31
George having trouble getting to the meeting on Friday due to work commitments! When is the planned next meet and where, same place as the first meet? also George could you post on Friday as soon as the protest goes ahead and what the turnout is, also any hassles? Would be obliged and really looking forward to the gathering!

Just a thought Guys, has anyone tipped off someone sympathetic in the press who could publicise the support George is galvanising on this site?, and what he has planned for Friday?

. I'm sure some Gers fans who frequent other sites would support it.

It would also prevent the Board dismissing the guys with the stewards at the front door. bad publicity when their trying to shirk an EGM. I don't think they want that

I am going to try to be right at the main door and Main Stand on Friday 12pm and Tuesday 5pm then the 31st at 12pm again! IF FANS HAVE BACKED MY HOPES AND TURN OUT IN FORCE :-).

So see you there bear bunch :-)

I have arranged 5000 flyers to be ran off tmrw and can get another 25000 by the following week IF THE FANS TURN UP.

I got my best friend to post on an internet friends network (not allowed to say name and he has asked every bear on the site to mail friends and text all friends that GIVE A ****. who knows maybe 50 turn up maybe I'm dreaming and it will be me and 5 other plus the famous Snowy the Dog. LMAO.

Sad thing is this site does not get across to enough fans to spread the word so I am worried it falls flat on it's face and I have wasted my time. truth be told I am not worried I just HAD TO DO SOMETHING. going nuts waiting for someone else to. RTID. george

21 Aug 2013 22:59:57
Sitting here reading the latest episode of fantasy island (sorry I meant the directors statement) these guys really are in a little world of their own. I mean a brass neck is not even close! So they want to compromise, strange with only one day to go. This proves beyond any reasonable doubt that the pressure is getting to them and there time is up!

All of a sudden the chairman is the top priority and he will bring instant and significant benefits? Any true rangers man would not go near that boardroom with a barge pole. Also very strange that they have been working tirelessly to find a solution to the EGM, well I for one don't think you need to work very hard to find a solution in that boardroom it is very simple! Stand down and let people with integrity and honesty take over the club.

As for wanting to connect with corporate Britain all I would say is "show us the accounts" and tell us where has all of the IPO cash gone and who has benefitted from this "great stadium robbery"

If FRANK BLIN becomes a director the first thing he MUST do immediately is REMOVE Stockbridge from the office of finance director, and then move further along the corridor to the finance department and inside this office he will find one of the "insider traders" mr overmars he needs to be removed as he already has previous and has lost all credibility as an accountant, just my suggestions FRANK but it would put you in a far better position with these two removed and would allow you to cleanse that part of the club.

You will already be a hero if this happens as I don't think your credibility is in any doubt by any rangers fans!

21 Aug 2013 18:36:39
"The board's aim remains finding a solution to achieve stability and unity among all stakeholders for the benefit of the club. "
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Not true.
We want an EGM

21 Aug 2013 15:35:59
quite like craig mather seems like ally trust him thoughts?

21 Aug 2013 17:28:53
He would have to take a wage cut 500k a year + bonus far too much even then I would prefer the old guard to disappear as the fans trust in them has broken down. briblue

No disrespect but is allys judgement something we should follow? He put his weight behind whyte and green and look how they both turned out. Ally should start doing his own job and not worrying about the boardroom.

When McColl and his group comes in ALL others will be gone, whomever they are!

Matt Crozier

21 Aug 2013 13:54:18
see that green had 3 month notice period in consultant role more easy money he has not gone for good as many believe doubt the board meeting will go ahead simply a delay tactic again planned and carried out green could even possibly make a claim for unfair termination of employment?

@ op how do you know the contract details and also how can he sue for unfair dismissal you talk one load of sh*te

Every company I have worked for give a 12week period where you can be sacked for doing just about anything wrong. He couldn't sue for unfair dismissal as he was within his first 12weeks as consultant and his comments have caused his dismissal, a consultant has no right to threaten staff with jobs.

Heid rtid

He has been booted off the board. Unfair dismissal my airse.

21 Aug 2013 08:32:15
Lots of rants within these posts about directors and officials at RIFC taking substantial amounts of money out of the club. Hopefully this is not the case, however, if it is so then the police should be called in to investigate these so called allegations.
In order to make a complaint to the police a concerned fan will need to provide reliable evidence. If such a person is out there please contact the authorities and let the investigation begin.
I have said this previously, and I will say it again - McColl et al will be in control at RIFC very shortly. He and his shadow directors will go through every detail and put RIFC back on the top echelon of Scottish Football. McColl et al are the only people who have the ability to take this club forward, along with fan representation on the board.

Matt Crozier

No Audited Accounts. so claims that £20m, or £30m spent are pie in sky.

Key question. have ibrox stands been repaired, as IPO stated £6m-£9m on that alone, if that money has gone to working captial. Then there is risk the IPO money is gone to other activities (legal, consultants. ) and in someone elses money

Worst still £137,000 was put into account of someone linked with Ibrox. now money laundering requirements are that the source of this money declared, and Green and Co have stated THEY don't KNOW WHERE THIS MONEY CAME FROM - or WHO.

There's ways of taking money out of a club which aren't illegal:

1. As a director, you can set your own salary, bonus and expenses, and those of any other club employee or owner.

2. As a director, you can award company supply contracts to companies which you have part or full ownership of

3. As a director, you can sign up contractually to tie-in and penalty clauses with these companies which make it almost impossible for future directors to remove the suppliers without severe financial penalty

4. As a director, you can sell company assets (e. g. a stadium) on a lease-back deal at a nominal figure, with tie-in and penalty clauses to any third party company which you may partly or fully own, ensuring an ongoing revenue from company coffers.

5. As a director, you can award yourself preference shares in an share issue, and you can award these shares at a reduced price. This does not take money out of the company, but increases ownership of any company capital/profit

6. As a director, you can behave badly, recklessly and endanger the company, in order to intimidate other shareholders into paying you a price for your shares over market value. This reduces the amount of capital new investors have to invest.

Matt, good point.

Unless MColl and Blin take over, then the present lot will bleed the club dry. The remaining cash will go and then they will sell and leaseback the assets at astronomical terms then when the club can't afford the lease rentals they will sell on the land including Murray park for vast profit.

Blin has thefinancial acumen and reputation to stop the rot and get the financial house in order.

and McCoist's not blameless - he's a shareholder also, and travelling to Stranraer and staying at the Turnberry Hotel! Come on -is he taking the Piss?

McColl is not interested in increasing his shares or being involved with Rangers. Why do people keep posting this stuff. His quotes are a matter of record. {Ed001's Note - I thought he was quoted as saying he would be happy to be involved as a director etc, just not interested in buying more shares?}

21 Aug 2013 14:28:47
Wher e is Gaz & Benedict tonight? Still in shock maybe that there own team have a few problems of their own to worry about. As both these gentlemen come on here with all the answers to Rangers worries I would lbe interested to hear how they intend to fix their own teams.

@3 mccoist isn't the one who deals with the finances it's Stockbridge do He's the one who's what money goes wer do you honestly think mccoist went and said we away to Stranraer you need to get us a place to stay because I very much doubt it ally deals with the football side ( not the best tho) nothing else so stop the p*sh mccoist is to blame aswell

McColl won't spend his own money he'll use yours instead, ever wonder why he is so rich mmmmmm.

ED001/ He claimed his own business interests would have to come first and could not offer any time to Rangers as he owed it to his own shareholders. from a daily rag up here mind you so who knows? {Ed001's Note - ah ok, the quotes I read said different. The ones I read could have been old ones dredged back up, knowing newspapers I wouldn't put it past them, which is why I don't read them usually. I couldn't find any actual full interview with him putting any quotes into context either. Hence why I asked you about it.}

Matt you appear to be missing the big picture here. we have been bleed dry Mcoll and Blin already seem to know this. Agreed Mcoll and co have the ability to put us in the top echelon but they have to get rid of the cancer that is still involved at every level in our club. Green and co still have the rights to a great number of company's our club are signed upto in soem form or another and these are the ones for the years to come who will be taking our money. Companys such as ■Rangers. co. uk Limited
■Rangers Media Investments Ltd
■Rangers Matchday Services Ltd
■The Rangers Shop Limited
■Rangers Financial Services Ltd

although seemingly dissolved appear to have been re named
for example, Rangers Retail Ltd, set up to be the joint venture between Rangers and Mike Ashley’s Sports Direct, still lists Messrs Green and Stockbridge as Directors.

And we also have Garrion Security Services Ltd. This was formed in September 2012 and its name was changed to Garrion in November. The original name? Rangers Security Services Ltd. The directors? Messrs Stockbridge and Green.
Mcoll etc know that to get rid of these company, s would take millions prehaps more, which they and us the fans woudl be unwilling to stomach hence the possible admin route to get rid of the whole lot and then new start with our ground etc being ours not theirs. Wakey wakey Matt we have been used and still are.

@ 11 with them being sub company's can the club not terminate using them

Not if signed upto long contracts that would need to be bought out. ie 10years or more? we won't know until the whole lot gets put out in open. and the way Mather etc are doing their buisness that may months to come and by then?more money gone.

@11 the company's you are talkin have been dissolved apart from garrion

22 Aug 2013 00:06:04
@5 don't worry nameless poster I am here. And yes Celtic do have serious problems but us fans know what they are. Our board won't spend a small amount of the vast sums of cash they have taken in over the last year to strengthen our team to ensure cl football. Should we have beaten that team?Of course we should. I believe we are out of the cl. But fact Remains your team has the opposite problem. You are spending money you don't have. And Will not have for a few years. I have been asking myself over the last few weeks why hasn't Peter lawwel splashed some cash. Money we have. Is it because is knows like everyone else that rangers are headed for admin 2 and Will not be in the top Scottish league for a while to come. If ever, given what's gone on the last 2 years and complete inactivity by the rangers support to stop it. Celtic could just be boxing clever. Keeping the cash knowing that additional tv and other revenues associated with the old firm won't be comming back for a long time.
Anyway we still have European football for a few months maybe europa is our level. let's be honest when Scotland self proclaimed biggest and most successful club get excited about beating stranrear. Should any team front that league be in the cl.
Benedict

12)the bear82. think you will find although dissolved another entity has taken their place. we won't know until it all comes out. Do yuo really think Green and co would just dissolve and not replace. seem to recall Servco etc getting dissolved then becoming a new entity. That is how bad this has all become, no one knows who or what is taking all the money away? we don't lose the millions that we have without someone somewhere making a healthy profit. Green probably has his finger into everything possible at Ibrox that's if he hasn't already moved it on to one of his other company's.

BEAR82 They may have been dissolved but that doesn't mean the contracts have not been moved on, do you think mr green woudl allow his goden goose to stop laying eggs?
Change name keep contacts as per. hence ourclub from Servco etc etc etc

@12 mate go and check it would tell us if it changed its name like it has with rangers security ltd which is now garrion and as it does with sevco to rangers

21 Aug 2013 02:06:01
George ( and anyone else interested in my ramblings)
With massive factual sections that I'm not fully aware of and more than a healthy pinch of my over active imagination here is my theory of the downfall in as much of a nutshell as I can. From beginning to end.

There was a man SDM who genuinely had aspirations for our club. So much so that some of his business brain went out the window. I firmly believe that this man got caught up in Rangers and his own dream of being the greatest most successful chairman in our history. He began life as modern, forward thinking with the dream of conquering Europe being his ultimate goal. It is with regret that he got so close in the 92-93 season as I believe this only fuelled his belief that it was genuinely possible. His tenure was mostly during a period of time where banks where irresponsible and pretty much threw cash at anyone, never mind a successful muti millionare. Times were good and the gravy train appeared to be running on and on. So on and on went SDM with his quest, spending money willingly given by the bank, using schemes that although not illegal had a bit of a moral issue and trying to buy success. Domestically his players swept all before them and the fans rejoiced (and gloated a little) with absolutely no reason to question if there was any issues. The reality of the Scottish game had went out the window as title after title came our way. SDM basked in this glory and happily courted the press who were only too happy to indulge his every whim on the promise of tit bits here and there. Oh how we laughed, and quaffed and toasted; but little did the ordinary fan know that all was about to begin to go pear shaped. Our counterparts in the East more astute in the world of paranoia and conspiracy (and I mean that in the best possible way) were more equipped in sniffing out when something was not right and rumblings from the jungle began to float across the city. Questions of how? why? this is Scotland where's the money coming from? but we Rangers fans paid them no heed. Why would we when it was clearly just jealousy, bitterness and the usual tim paranoia; ain't that right Sir D? Yes my people that's right! It's my money and for every fiver they spend I'll chuck a tenner at it! Hurrah! let us go forth and conquer then.
But the times they were a changin' for everyone and things got tighter and tighter as the banks began to realise they had royally f**ked up. The cash stream began to dry up and as the favoured Bank was bought over by another it became clear to SDM that they wanted their cash back. Cuts were made, player standards dropped we all felt the pinch a bit but we felt we were heading in the right direction in reducing our debt under Mr Johnstone. Unfortunately we never banked on others wanting to recover some of the money they felt they had lost during the affluent times. The bank put the pressure on and hovering in the background was the spector of the taxman too. There were countless huge companies across the UK who had been using tax loopholes for years but pursuing them wasn't in the best interests of a UK government who had attracted them here in the first place with these loopholes (allegedly). However they needed to make an example of someone, someone that the world would notice but without a great deal of bite. A football club, that's perfect, now who could we choose? What about those numpties that took the advice of a porno dealer?! They have the profile we need for the press but in the grand scheme of things they are just a big club from a wee country. In a league that is. well quite frankly a bit of a joke. Plus, I know other clubs have used EBTs and similar but that mob from Govan really has ripped the ar53 out of them haven't they?!
So as the big bad bank and the big bad taxman set to work righting their own wrongs SDM realised the dream was over and he needed out. FOR SALE said the sign but nobody was buying? hell! nobody was even viewing. "WTF" he must have thought. This is all going to go t1ts up! This club is facing admin, maybe even worse! I can't let my reputation be damaged with this. It's been a blast but hey, I'm a businessman and I need to be remembered as successful. Right, change of plan, I need a patsy! someone who is happy to be the face of evil as long as there's the opportunity for financial reward at the end of it. Now I'm no Columbo and I've no idea where wee Craigy came from but I'll tell you this. In my humble opinion I would imagine both SDM and Craigy knew fine well that the club needed to go into admin so a wee plan was dreamed up. SDM took his quid and apparently disappeared into the sunset. Not a word!, not so much as a thanks for the memories! strange for a man who had been all up in the press for years with claims of tenners for fivers, casinos and the like.
THIS IS WHEN I BECAME SUSPICIOUS. This is when I said to friends and posted on here that I felt it was all a ruse and that when Rangers had reached there absolute barrel scrapping bottom that SDM would have a part in an apparent ride to the rescue. However, it would take a long long time for this scenario to play out and to this day I'm still not convinced he is not waiting somewhere in the background for the right moment. Not as a white knight but as an opportunist like the rest of them.
However, in all honesty I do believe that things didn't quite go according to plan and wee craigy bottled it. I'm convinced he had no idea what he was really getting himself into and viewed things as just another asset stripping and admin, albeit a massive one. However, being a shifty looking wee fellie who with no media savvy and an appalling storyteller the cracks began to show quite quickly. A bit of pressure, some threats and a wee bit of spraypaint were enough to put wee Craigy off and he began to look for way out of the madness. Little did he know that the smell of blood was now in the water and the sharks were swarming from far and wide. America, Singapore and right here at home. All with £ signs in their eyes. All able to see a devoted yet gullible support of a massive institution ripe for the picking. Craigy would have been up for punting to anyone but suddenly he had a plethora of choice. However there was one who had questioned him and slated him in public so it won't be him I (sorry duff and Phelps) choose if I can help it. The bids came in, the goalposts moved and the bids were withdrawn. It was madness until suddenly a curveball! who the hell is this Green fellie? The fans of other clubs mocked and screeched. They were overjoyed at the downfall of the school bully and took every opportunity to stick the boot in! and why not? it's the way of the world I'm afraid. However some of them had been good enough to point out Craigys flaws, which we ignored as it was just more Tim propaganda, and the papers said "wealth off the scale". You think we would have learned from that but no. Sheffield Utd fans warned us about Chuck! they have no agenda with us?! but still we ignored the warnings. It was a time when the world seemed to be against us and we had long got used to having one man at the helm defending us with his monetary claims. We are a mere child as a support who were hurt and looking for dad to sort it all out for us, and that there is all Chuck needed. He saw our weakness and played on it. He saw our complete devotion to our club and rubbed his hands with glee. He gathered up all his pals and said "shhhh. this is what we're going to do" and so it began. From the moment Ally gave his approval and Chuck stood outside Ibrox offering cups of tea to fans queuing for season tickets he had us by the bo**ocks! Even me, with my suspicion and paranoia thought " how bad can it be? I want to be part of the revival" and the season ticket was bought. Despite that I continually said on here that I didn't trust his 'straight talking Yorkshireman act' and that I found his ranting's to be embarrassing to the club and not befitting of a Rangers chairman. Most however bought right into it and until today many still did, better the devil you know and all that. This post has went on for far too long and ultimately it means nothing. It's just my opinion, a story at best but a story I believe to be reasonably accurate. The 'departure' of Chuck today was always going to happen and there will be more. It's all part of the grand plan. However, anyone who thinks they will have no hold on our club is deluding themselves. As fans we have to be out on the street demanding answers not looking for others to ask for us. We have to force change and we all have to want the same thing. I know this won't be a popular opinion but we are starting again, there's nothing wrong with that. We have all supported Rangers all our lives and those titles, cups and triumphs DID happen. I was there, I watched it and those records still stand to this day until someone betters them. As I said months ago our past shouldn't halt us moving forward. I can't follow anyone else as I have no feeling for any other club. If there's no Rangers in whatever form then there's no club for me and football is an insignificance. As things stand there are still players wearing Rangers strips with the same badge, at the same ground with the same fans following them week after week. We are Rangers and they will only die if we loose interest and let it die.
IF THEY PLAY ON THE STREETS WE WILL FOLLOW FROM THE PAVEMENT!

Never forget those words bears. That is what it is to be Rangers, not stadiums or trophies or anything else that can be chopped up and sold.
They can never sell our spirit and our determination to always have a Rangers to follow follow.

Nope. There was a man SDM who so that buying rangers would give his company loads of exposure and media column inches and massive goodwill in certain business sectors. The company was going cheep and like most scottish football clubs had not been very well run. Once bought he over inflated the value of assets on his balance sheet and friends at the bank were happy to lend him far more on these assets then they were worth or what he paid for them. SDM allowed the club to spend lots of this money (although he did take at least the value of his initial investment out of the company in fees, bonuses saleries etc). The club racked up huge debts and SDM decided to float the company to get his hands on more cash. When this failed he, and he got stuck with the bill, he used more questionalble methods to reduce his debt exposure (EBTs anyone). Then finally he sold the club for a pound which also ment he got rid of the last of his debt exposure (and incidently any exposure to EBT tax liabilities and fines).
In the mean time his own company also went down the swanny owing a massive 1 billion pounds not including its own EBT problems. In the mean time SDM had squirreled away sufficent funds and assets to ensure a very comfortable retirement. And as an added wee bonus managed to sell Eglington house and the Albion Car "back" to the club as a wee top up. There are also suggestion that he owns the deeds to Murray Park and makes a modist income renting to the club.

David

Wow BayBear that's what you call a post mate. Very well told story I've seen myself rattle out something that length & delete it halfway through thinking no one wants too read this. We share a lot of the same views I just feel it's all about the here and now Murray is in the past for me all I care about is Reclaiming our Club & together we will stand fighting tooth and nail to beat these spivs. I really hope the majority of Gers fans on here now understand that this Club is In serious trouble & needs cleansed never mind Signings, results trophys etc we need to act & save the club from top to bottom ensure that we own Ibrox, Auchenhowie our merchandise & catering rights among other things within the next year or it will not get better for a very very long time maybe not ever. We all love this club the same & no one is asking for you all to put your hands in the pockets just band Together and let our voices be heard showing our strength & solodarity we are the lifeblood of Rangers the heart & soul to me the only way Rangers lived on is because of us & can continue to do so not Charles Green he should be thanked for nothing and gave no credit apart from in the ranks of Con Men. He has made a complete circus of our club & an @rse of every single one of us. NO MORE I SAY I will be honoured to do everything & anything I can to Help fans like George & Baybear to oust these schemers for all they are & regain the pride of our Club. One big movement one statement made by us will be a game changer. I am willing to throw myself into the fire with you George I've had enough. I was trying to stay away from this site for a while because Rangers goings on was starting to get to me again so you will only have seen my name on a few light hearted posts. Like it or not I am back with a bang & I will be following all posts very closely. Ed I have put my Email up mate I will Register later on I've never bothered to do it but I would really appreciate if I could get a look at George's findings if he decides to send them out before the weekend as I have tried but am struggling to make it on Tuesday. George Baybear thanks for putting the fire back in my belly.

Larky Bear

You began with NOPE but without either of us stating facts (I'm presuming this is the case with you also) our opinions are relatively similar. I can only see the differences being that my opinions lend SDM a bit more of a romantic beginning to yours. However, we both seem to agree that we think he began the chain of events that led Rangers here. We think he sold us out, and we believe there is a good chance he is lurking in the background. We also seem to agree that he courted the press, me to feed his ego and you to promote his other business interests. I would suggest that is less of a nope and more of a hmmmmm not quite ;0)

Sorry if I was a bit abrupt but I think SDM is a. I certainly don't think he came in as a rangers fan remember he tried to buy Ayr United and Kilmarnock first and was told where to go. I don't think either of us have really fully described everything he got upto with ENIC and Joe Lewis where loads of cash were put in Rangers and then "lost". I doubt very much he if he is lurking to take back rangers.

David

@ baybear did you get to see the flier and also really up for these protest I'm happy and annoyed that its taken a fan from London to actually do something about this but il be there on fri and the 31st

There are some men and women who work for BDO.
They are currently liquidating Rangers.
Fact.

Baybear when you see the FACTS as in people behind CW on flyers I am bringing up you will see he is not the mug you think. FFS he bought the club for £2 and used PROFESSIONAL people in Ticketus AND TSB to start this. that and the fact the smoke n mirrors and the fact that even YOU doubt his nous tells you a lot mate. I will talk to you on the Tuesday and you will be shocked at the depth this goes to. I couldn't PUT NAMES AND FACTS ON HERE FOR THE LAST YEAR I've KNOWN DUE TO ED AND POSTING RULES. Now my solution is this PRINTED FACTS AND I WILL GIVE OUT AN EMAIL AND WEB SITE I AM CONSTRUCTING TO TAKE THIS FURTHER I JUST PRAY ENOUGH OF US TURN UP TO GET THIS GOING. RTID george

I asked ed about sending but it only 2 days now will bring up then after that will put names to the blanks I HAVE TO LEAVE OUT FLYER DUE TO ARREST RISK OR POTENTIAL DOING LMAO. george

@5 not yet mate but it sounds like George is a busy man. I'll be there to hear what he has to say on Tuesday regardless.

@ baybear sounds promising just hope all fans that can get there turns up

21 Aug 2013 01:58:04
I TRIED TO POST THIS AS A MAIN POST NOT JUST AN ANSWER TO YOUR COMMENT ED. PLEASE POST THIS FOR ME IN WEDNESDAY BANTER I AM PUTING A LOT OF EFFORT INTO COMING UP FROM LONDON FOR A WEEK AND PRINTING FLIERS ETC ETC

I SHALL BE AT THE MAIN DOOR AS IN THE MAIN DOOR THE 'BOARD' AND PLAYERS WALK THROUGH IN RANGERS FOOTBALL CLUB TRADITIONAL MAIN STAND 12pm FRIDAY 23rd.

I WILL WEAR A HAT OR SHIRT MAKING CLEAR WHO I AM "PROTESTER NUMBER ONE. GEORGE" JUST TO START THE BALL ROLLING. IF IT TURNS OUT I MAKE A CNUT OF MYSELF AND IF I AM WRONG AND THERE ISN'T A LARGE SUPPORT FOR THIS REAL RANGERS FANS DEMO THEN I WILL BE SAD BUT I WILL BE HAPPY AT LEAST I DID SOMETHING BEFORE THE END GAME OF 2ND ADMIN AND THE POSSIBLE SALE OF IBROX AND OTHER RANGERS FC ASSETS. Okay Ed I will retype it later tonight if it does not appear.

The basis was I AM TOTALLY FED UP WITH NOBODY TAKING THE LEAD ON A REAL ACTUAL PROPER LARGE SCALE FANS DEMO.

I AM CANCELLING WORK AND FAMILY TIES HERE IN LONDON TO COME UP ON FRIDAY MAINSTAND AT MAIN DOOR OF IBROX 12pm AND HOPE OTHERS SHOW UP I WILL BRING 3000 HAND OUTS LISTING THE ACTUAL FACTS AND THE CHARACTERS INVOLVED FROM THE ONES WE HAVE SEEN IN OUR BOARD ROOM TO THE OTHERS BEHIND ALL THIS.

IF ENOUGH PEOPLE TURN UP FRIDAY I AM INTENDING PRINTING OFF 30000 OF THE SAME FACT SHEETS AND A FEW LEGAL SUGGESTIONS YOU couldn't PUT ON HERE AS TO HOW TO KEEP UP THE PROTEST AND DRAW ATTENTION TO WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW TO OUR CLUB FOR THE F*****G SECOND TIME!

I WILL BE AT MAIN DOOR MAIN STAND AGAIN IF I don't GET ARRESTED (BELIEVE IT OR NOT I HAVE CONSULTED A LAWYER ON THIS AND I DO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH ACCUSATIONS AND NAMING NAMES ETC ETC) TUES 5pm B4 BERWICK GAME.

I DO NOT CARE IT IS WORTH IT HOPING TO START THE PROTEST THE THE MOB FROM THE EAST WOULD HAVE DONE BY NOW

IF THIS TAKES OFF I WILL ARRANGE THROUGH ONE OF THE TOP LAWYERS IN GLASGOW THAT HAS FULL KNOWLEDGE OF THIS TO SET UP A FANS COMPANY AND DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS GO NOMINATING SOMEONE WE ALL AS GERS FANS CAN TRUST TO BE THE FIGUREHEAD OR LEADER OF THIS PROTEST (my only choice John Grieg?) AND POTENTIALLY BE ACCOUNT SIGNEE HOLDING FUNDS THAT CAN ONLY BE RELEASED ON FULL BACKING OF THE FAN BASED PROTEST GROUP WE NEED TO THINK HEARTS AND HOW SOME EURO TEAMS WORK WITH FANS BEING MEMBERS AND FULL CONTROL OF OUR OWN CLUB. NEXT GAME 31ST SAME 3 HOURS B4 KICKOFF IBROX DOOR AND FLIERS/BANNERS. george

TO ALL REAL RANGERS FANS PLEASE CONTACT EVERYONE YOU KNOW AND THEIR FRIENDS EVEN FROM OTHER CLUBS. WE NEED SUPPORT TO SAVE OUR. O-U-R! CLUB FROM THESE PERSONS. {Ed001's Note - good luck mate - it is what is needed, someone to stand up and say enough is enough.}

Well done George good to see that someone is really trying to get the truth and bring all your fans together.

Hope it all works out for you. As much as I have enjoyed the comedy show at Ibrox I don't want to see you gone forever. I miss the banter and rivalry of Celtic Rangers games.

Not sure this will be posted here as The Ed blocked me for some reason so I will post this on the Celtic Page also.

Once again George well done for at least trying to stand up to the crooks that run your club.

Ian {Ed001's Note - if you had been blocked the post wouldn't have reached me.}

Good Luck George. I can only imagine the depth of cheating and lying lurking beneath the surface. Hopefully its not too late - I guess its never too late.

@ George let me start with a big thanks for being the man ready to lead these protests il be there for both occasions and will stand side by side with all fans who are will to help put a stop to these shysters running and ruining our great club

I, ll see you on friday george

from little acorns
large oak tree grow

20 Aug 2013 23:41:14
I am afraid that what has happened today is the opening of a giant can of worms. Think about it, Green saved our bacon. I, personally, have no time for the man or the majority of parasites that have bled our club, but he stood up when others dived for cover. It is now more critical than ever than the day to day finances are sorted out. Forget about who owns this or that as they are only figures on a balance sheet. What is necessary is a C. E. O. who can efficiently run a league one club, with an eye to the future. Shareholders will come and go but a trading profit is essential to ensure our future.
I've seen comments about balance sheets on this site that are so farcical they do not warrant comment.
Also, we have certain individuals who offer their condescending opinions as if they were an authority on financial matters.
The truth is, you have to live within your means to survive in any business and have a leader, or CEO, able to make tough decisions and take us forward.
As far as the board is concerned I hope it settles quickly, as far as the management and playing staff are concerned it is well overdue to have a close look at the value for money. Again, CEO, I would ask you to stand up to the mark and while your doing it have a look in the mirror at yourself and fellow executives.
billyb