Rangers Banter Archive April 21 2013

21 Apr 2013 16:10:27
McCoists post match comments are a disgrace, he blames anyone rather face the plain truth, he is no where near good enough to mange any football team let alone Rangers, the team he says he loves, this time its Greens fault its usually the players (that he bought, trains and picked)

I am a season ticket holder and travel over 500 miles round trip to Ibrox but, will never set foot in Ibrox again while this vile charlatan is employed by the club, he has done equally as much damage as Green and Whyte both of whom he backed 100% until he their dealings became public.

Walter Smith and all of the other so called Rangers men at the club should hang their heads in shame (as they walk out the door) for their part in all the lies and underhand dealings if only for their silence, what is the point of having Rangers men at the club who allow these things to happen and keep them from the supporters who the claim an affinity with, the supporters are life blood of the club and should demand better on and off the pitch.

Some great points. None of them will walk away from this clean, I am sure of it. As you say Ally backed them both and has never criticized Murray for his part either. Walter and Ally will know what John Brown was talking about but have kept silent why?

Vile charlatan. really. Have a word with yourself. Whilst Ally has a lot to learn and prove what decent and sensible alternatives are really there whilst we remain in the dark about the state of the finances. and don't mention Stuart McCall. He is unproved, as most are, in a situation like ours

He bought four of yesterday's team. When did he blame Green?

What is he meant to do but back them? They were his bosses for gods sake.

If you are to criticise him at least do so for some valid reason.

Walter can only go on what he has been told next season will be allys last

McCoist has been a disgrace since getting the mangers job. In all my time following Rangers (35 years) he is the most inept manager I have ever seen. I find it staggering that a guy who played the game at such a high level can be so clueless. You look at some of the players like Faure, Cribari and Arygiou and wonder how anyone can think they are players. The team are so bad and after every poor performance ally comes out with the same rubbish.

Can't believe Ally is in the papers this morning talking about this promised 10million warchest which he might need to win the second division next season.

If Ally doesn't think he can win that league with a fraction of that then bring in the likes of Terry Butcher who won't whinge on but just get on with the job. Look what he's did with a much younger team at Caley on a fraction of Ranger's budget.

Can anyone enlighten me to what he said?

I agree with most of your post but cannot accept the word "vile". I could accept "inept". As I've said in previous posts, 63 years of hardly missing a game and now I feel ashamed of my club. Can somebody please say something to cheer me up.
wee willie

Get a grip mate, Ally is finding it a slog
at present and your vile chat is way off
the mark. Ally has been the one true rangers man at the club and I for one feel he deserves a bit of slack.
Ally may not make the best manager in the world but he deserves a chance.

He has served rangers for the best part of 20 years with distinction.

I am sure he will be desperate to see rangers back in the SPL (hell)
If he can't cut it at that time then we may need to say thanks Ally and change the manager. I like you are aware the standard this year has been very poor.

I am a sales rep for a company in Glasgow and I have had a very poor 5 months and I am working my socks off to improve my figures. I am under lots of pressure but no more so than the pressure I put on myself to do better.
Ally is no different he is striving for the best for Rangers and I am sure through
Time he will sort Rangers out

WATP

Billy B

Totally agree with your post we don't need a good cleanse as Ally puts it we need a clean sweep of all the old board and get a new board in as everyone of the so called rangers men are bleeding the club dry by letting this mess unravel under their noses without saying a word and then have the cheek to keep saying the fans deserve answers and they don't give us any. I have said on many occasions that there was a tie in with Green and Whyte and all I got was shot down and called Timmy and as for the rst and other trusts they need a good shake and should hang their heads in shame. They go to all these meetings yet don't seem to ask the right questions. There is to many involved in this club who are only in it for themselves unlike us proper fans. They wanted it to be a fans club yet they held a meeting to appoint a new ceo yestersday before the game and no fans knew about it so where is the communication with the fans.

@2. ". in a situation like ours. " His job is to train, coach and put a football team on a park that play good football. Other people have managed it.

Don't know why you'd want McCall, Motherwell were the only half decent team you beat this season.

Shuggy

To wee Willie, Tam Forsyths goal. Les

Thanks Les. My mate, in a similar vane, sent by text "Kai Johansen"!
wee willie

21 Apr 2013 12:23:48
Celtic Fan here in peace, can't believe you have appointed Greens Accountants to investigate him no wonder you are in some mess, and Craig Mather you have got to be kidding, this is some farce, all I will say our Fans would not stand for this fiasco there would be supporters from Janefield st to Bridgeton X demanding all these chancers get booted out, where are the fans here, after all the club is nothing without the blood supply, I will tell you what I think you should do, bin the RST and that other clown Dingwall, form a new supporters club with a strong leader and also get him a seat on the Board so these scoundrels don't pull the wool anymore over your eyes, anyway I feel BDO will put everyone in there place, Whyte and Green will end owning nothing, exactly what they deserve, I think they will sell the Club to the Highest bidder to show there are some people caring for the creditors, and finally D&P should be shot for there part in all the lies and deception. Good Luck you will need it, I heard a rumour from a very good source Dave King is looking to buy the club, but is waiting on the BDO outcome first, but I feel Brian Kennedy will beat him to it

Buy the club from whom? As it stands just now there isn't anyone with a significant shareholding so it would be very difficult to gain control. IF Whyte and Greens takeovers are deemed illegal then I suppose the club would go back to Murray. Either way it could take years to sort out. something Rangers don't have

How are Kennedy or King going to buy the club. The club is owned by shareholders. Nobody can own more than 15%.

I think your sentiments are correct but facts not so much.

Dave king doesn't pass the fit and proper person test. South African judges have called him mendacious, a glib liar.

Totally agree with the post. Walter and the former SDM created the hole, aided fully by Wee Dick, that allowed slimy Whyte to slip in and finish off our Club as we knew it. Giving ALLY any money after the last two years would be ridiculous. I fear for next season unless we have a new cheap coaching team with an eye for cheap young talent and the ability to get the best of their talent.

You're right op. there does seem to be an obsequiousness about those who follow follow. its interesting how less inquiring they seem to be, in general. stay loyal and all will be well seems to be the order of the day. boiled frogs, to my mind. some good posters on here who can see what's going on but most are just blind. the football club at ibrox is in mortal danger and all we have seen is the same old triumphalist rubbish in the main. put up a banner with red white and blue on it and a crowd will gather behind it. the money men jostle to to get their noses in the trough and the crowd keep filling it. there are no voices raised with alternatives to just keep on following whoever turns up next in a rangers tie. since the war there has been, overall a balance of power within what was the old firm. in global terms celtic have always been ahead since jock steins era. murray sought to throw somebody elses money at that, and after a period of success destroyed the club. this comes at a time when celtic are in the best financial position in their history with extremely capable people at every level of management. the gap between them and the new organisation at ibrox is enormous and growing exponentially. competing with celtic is in reality not even an ambition but a dream. somebody, sometime will have to get a grip and build something from scratch. the people involved in the death of rangers are obviously not the people to do this. neither should they look for any more billionaires with wealth off the radar. the question is, can it be done? is there anybody within the rangers fraternity who can do this. you know what? I think there might not be.

22 Apr 2013 03:22:01
the shares will also be found illegal, they will start again from the beginning, there will be no shareholders, till the club are bought over. simple

The mad dash to get back up to the SPL at any cost is Green's doing. Seriousl Gers fans know that rebuilding the club to a point where it can re-enter top-flight football is going to take more than the 2 or 3 years that Green wants for his quick return.

Rangers have two choices

1 - try to get back up to the SPL (or replacement) as quickly as possible while running up huge debts in the process again, in the hope that revenue frmo the top-flight can pay it off

2 - forget the SPL, forget expensive players from Europe. Put loads of money into scouting and building the junior team as a feed-in to the 1st squad. Scout far and wide, not just local. In 3-5 years time, these guys can progress into the main team or be sold off. This means 5-10 years before Rangers will be back, but it will be done within its means.

Neither choice is great, but we've done 1 already and it hasn't worked out.

21 Apr 2013 11:47:45
What happens to the 10 millon ally was promised in the transfer market now, I hope the next CEO gives him nothing because he's useless in the transfer market.

Rangers needs cleansed of McCoist and his two henchos.

21 Apr 2013 09:58:18
Does chick young go to bed wearing walter smith pyamas. Is his duvet cover a big walter smith one. And does his wallpaper have walters face all over it. i'm just asking because after listening to radio clyde yesterday I think chick wants walter to be his dad. Walter for chairman, walter for respect. Walter for manager. Walter for UN commissioner. Calm down chick I've never seen such an example of man love

I don't think Walter will come out of this well. That is now two financial nightmares he has been involved in. He must know what Brown knows, why not tell the fans?

I think he must be absolutely petrified since "That Walter Smith Interview" what the F@ck do you mean Basel Boli & Brian Laudrup canny play in Europe priceless lol

Larky Bear

If you want to put up ridiculous posts at least get facts right, chick young doesn't report for radio clyde. doh

Funny that op you taking mince again

Chick isn't on radio Clyde away back to the drawing board.

Haha your not wrong my friend but he isn't a rangers fan

21 Apr 2013 16:35:16
How come it's only John Brown working at Ibrox who seemed to suspect Green was a shyster in with Whyte?

But the likes of Ally and Walter seem to have been duped by him.

Maybe Bomber's a lot sharper than them.

Or maybe they did know too but decided to take the money & hoped the link wouldn't be discovered?

Thoughts guys?

Rangers is always looking for a saviour to charge in and start spending money. That's the problem, it means you trust the next guy in a flash motor saying all the right things.

Football clubs are notorious for being money-losing businesses. So it only atytracts two types of 'businessmen' - shysters who want to get in, cash in, and get out (Green/Whyte) or businesmen who love the team, but who cannot run it in the neccessary way- the ruthless businesslike way.

A real business manager would have to sack all the high-paid staff there at present, sack McCoist, perhaps let the training ground go. He would recruit from the 2nd div (why pay more than you need for opposition?)

I don't see anyone on the horizon willing or able to Run Rangers on this basis. The fans are still holding out for a 'saviour' with deep pockets, so are ripe for being mugged again.

21 Apr 2013 00:00:51
Caught it late during Allys interview something along the lines of this club needs a total cleansing. If I heard this correctly it indicates to me that a total change of business plan and personell is on the horizon, again!

Sounds more like he knows what's been going on, get him to f//k

Hope the cleansing includes Mccoist and the other 2 amigos.

@1/ I think you are right mate. He should be asked some difficult questions. He backed whyte, he backed green, he has never criticized murray. Is he just looking after his job?

Everyone of them know what's going on at Ibrox, they know how much we have lost this year, they know who is really still in charge and they know who will still be there at the end of all this. Them.
I have nothing against Ally, Walter, Durrant etc I wish them well in their future lives, but I wish it just wasnt going to be in any capacity at Ibrox.
We should have never allowed anything but a fans takeover of our club, no matter who was going to be coming in? they were there for one reason, profit. Everything that has gone before will be again, if we don't act now. i'm sorry that means a lot of hard decisions by us the fans that may not be easy to swallow?
We have to boycott now.
We have to clean out everyone who has been in either of the camps of Murray, Whyte or Green and that means Ally, Walter and co too. They in the end, have all been part of this mess no matter at what level.
We need to act now before the start of a long summer which could possibily again see our great club in financial problems. Two games to go and we can now show how powerful we really can be, boycott the last two games totally, this will make the powers that be take notice of what we can really do? otherwise let's just keep going like lambs to the finicail slaughter for people who have their own intrests at their heart. They have all taken sums of money out our club this year that is obscene Whyte at least £720,000 same as others on the board and the football side. It has to stop now.

The million dollar question, who owns what. it won't matter who takes over from green, it is one big mess, white is just waiting, for some one to pay him off, or he will just keep popping his head up, and holding the club back, OLD BOB,

20 Apr 2013 21:41:37
Martin Bain as new ceo. are they trying to scunner the fans altogether. Yes a man who was up to his oxters in the sh@t that now surrounds us ffs Rangers no more jobs for the see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil old boys act that's got us here
If Bain get this gig its another big slap in the face to the fans. please Rangers no more of this crap. Les

That'll be the same parasite who allegedelly awarded himself with a bumper bonus in the region of hundreds of thousand pounds when rangers reached the uefa cup final!
why not appoint "fred the shred" while we're at it?

He is a big part of the problem too busy tanning himself and going on jaunts to the south of france was only ever david murrays puppet.

If craig whyte did not follow the stipulations of the sale of the club from Murray. promises of this and that can Murray claim it back?