Rangers Banter Archive April 21 2011

21 Apr 2011 23:50:47
I don't expect him to be liked but the hatred from the average Rangers fan for me seems over the top. As for TB, he was a different type of player and manager (liked and admired by most) but in the end he wasn't successful as a mabager so it's easy to like the oppostion guys who don't threaten your own success.
My point is that Lennon was dismissed as a clown but now he has a real chance of of winning the league the hatred has went throuh the roof.

Are you trying to say that TB was only respected because he wasn't "successful". He won us the Scottish Cup in '95 and came within a whisker of a league title. All from the wreck of an hour from bankruptcy. That is a poor post mate, some people earn and show respect regardless of trophies won. Would WS and McCoist refused to carry TBs coffin if he had won the league, I sincerely doubt it. It was to show how highly he was regarded as a person even across the religious divide. Don't see any Rangers fans complaining about WS and McCoist being in a chapel. Grow up and learn to show respect to others.

SickBhoy

21 Apr 2011 23:34:04
Cheers for your comments. I was hoping for answers without abuse fired in my direction (moron) maybe i'm being a bit optomistic but at least it goes to show it's probably the minority (you. one person) and not the decent guys who are spewing the hatred.

Not wanting to interfere in you and the other guys disagreement but Rangers fans are entitled to have a dislike to Neil Lennon. He manages our rival team and hasn't exactly been a model professional. But please continue the debate.

GovanFR {Ed001's Note - yes, but why abuse a guy for asking why you hate him? I think that was his point with his reply to the abusive post.}

21 Apr 2011 23:02:26
There are many reasons for Rangers fans to dislike Lennon but certainly not to the extent some take it. As for the guy who is suggesting Rangers fans have no reason to hate him they have plenty reason. He did spit on a Rangers scarf, as a player he was in constant fights with Rangers players. As a manager he has been abusive to Rangers players, abusive to referees and generally unprofessional. Obviously not an excuse for what he has been suffering but he needs to keep his head down and conduct himself like Tommy Burns as someone said earlier. O'Neill was NI but he didn't suffer as much.

21 Apr 2011 22:50:06
Why do Rangers fans hate Neil Lennon so much?
I'm sure most Celtic fans don't like Watty and Sally too much but I think most respect their achievements in football and I for one have great respect for them as they carried Tommy Burns coffin. So i can understand not liking him but all this hate stuff, where does that come from?


are you having a laugh mate just for starters he spat on a rangers scarf at ibrox

ok starters then , , when did this happen?
and what else?it happened a few years back when he was still playing he got sent off at ibrox an they were a gers scarf lying on the ground an he spat on it FACT not made up mate google it moron

all his moaning this year 2 does not help his case an the fact he is an all round pr#ck of a guy

21 Apr 2011 22:44:30
To the guy that said the bank can force the sale.

Rfc have a term loan. . .which apparently needs to be repaid by 2019. Also it's prob in lloyds interest to not to settle. They would gain more in interest over the term than take a reduces settlement offer as Whyte's deal proposed. Indeed the king offer would bring stability to rfc which above all is what Lloyds are looking for. Mate there is no basis to your argument, the delay is to give the board and murry time to consider this offer. It has not been laughes out. Whyte is ready to conclude the deal immediately, so if kings offer was laughed out why has the Whyte deal not been done???

C-bear85

21 Apr 2011 22:36:48
Mate we don't like lennon cause he's an ar*e. I'm not saying he deserves the treatment he's gettin but he doesn't help himself with his out bursts. As for tommy burns, he seemed a nice guy and an example to lennon on how to conduct yourself. If only lennon took a leaf from his book.

C-bear85

Tommy Burns was a complete and utter gentleman. And I'm not being starry eyed saying that, he always conducted him in manner becoming of the manager of one of the greatest football clubs in the world. As someone posted, to see WS and McCoist being pall bearers at his funeral shows the respect he was held in by people throughout football, and you would like to think that would have helped open peoples eyes. Although a very religious man and totally dedicated to Celtic, he was not a bigot in anyway and abhored the sectarian element that blighted the club. There was plenty of Rangers tops/ scarves/ Union flags at Parkhead after his death and I have yet to meet a Rangers fan with a bad word to say about him (apart from the odd ar****le). I watched him as a player, a manager, and then coaching, and he always carried himself off as a gentleman. I was even lucky enough to meet him a few times over the years and once again, there were plenty of Rangers tops on display as his funeral cortege travelled through Glasgow. It's sad that it takes something like that to put our differences aside. The world became a worse place the day TB was took from us (maybe now getting starry eyed).

SickBhoy

21 Apr 2011 22:06:58
Mate we don't like lennon cause he's an ar*e. I'm not saying he deserves the treatment he's gettin but he doesn't help himself with his out bursts. As for tommy burns, he seemed a nice guy and an example to lennon on how to conduct yourself. If only lennon took a leaf from his book.

C-bear85

21 Apr 2011 21:33:04
Re . .every post regarding lennon and the letters. .dacn we all stop pointing the finger i mean who is to exactly who it is???huh it could be anyone, , could be like so many of you think a rangers fan or it even could be a celtic fan or any other organisation not of these shores so before we start pointing fingers lets remember the phraze"innocent until proven guilty" and look beyond the sectarian garbage and the hatred, i really really don't like lennon due to me bein an absolute diehard teddy bear but it doesn't mean im goin to start sending bombs to people in the post. .remember folks this is scotland not 70s ireland for all the troubled they poor people had lets remember and keep it on the football side and don't cause more mayhem on sunday, and please i beg you stop pointing the finger at us rangers fans cause until the clown or clowns are reprimanded we won't know who it is. . and if it is one of us then don't tar us with the same brush. .

Tam-Sir 1873 fed up of all this garbage and just wants to win the league. . .again

Couldn't agree more Tam, that's what Mark McGhee was saying, it was nothing to do with Rangers what so ever. IMO If it is an "organistaion" why has no one came forward to make a statement as has happened for years gone by. It could easily be just some lone nutcase who has done some digging on the internet to produce these items. One fear is though if it is an "organistaion", are they planning something bigger/ dafter before coming forward. Let's pray that's not the case. One thing I am sure of it was NOT Rangers FC who sent theses parcels, or like your good self any decent minded or even sane person.

SickBhoy

21 Apr 2011 21:21:26
Ins:
Richard Forster(500k)
Gareth McAuley(£1m)
Jean-Alain Boumsong(£1m)
Kyle Bartley(loan)
Alexei Eremenko(free)
Kevin Thompson(£1m)
Vladimir Weiss(loan)
El Hadji Diouf (£2m)
David Goodwillie(£2m)


Spend £7.5m


Out:
Majid Bougherra (£2-3m)
James Beattie(£1m)

Income:£3-4m


New Contracts:
Steven Davis-2016
Steven Whittaker-2016
David Healy-2012
Sasa Papac-2012
Jordan McMillam-2015
Gregg Wylde-2015

A few youth players prehapes

21 Apr 2011 19:32:27
Good interview on SSN from Mark McGhee today about all the bombing nonsense, and great to see all the decent Rangers fans condemning the situation.

SickBhoy

The people that don't condemn the situation are a disgrace and I hate the thought that they are Rangers fans. As far as I'm concerned they have no place supporting Rangers, they are not welcome.

GovanFR

21 Apr 2011 18:17:13
21 Apr 2011 00:59:30
20 Apr 2011 23:49:56
The King/ Murray £25m deal first muted by Alastair Johnston has been "laughed out of town" by both majority shareholder Sir David Murray and Lloyds Banking Group.

Preferred buyer Craig Whyte's £52.5m package is set to be publicly endorsed by LBG and rubberstamped by SDM tomorrow.

I don't think that is the case murrays deal makes more sense the only stumbling block will be mih who are only happy with the whyte deal as it gets rid of rangers off their books plus some much needed cash. I feel there is a better chance of this deal going through as the board are more than happy with the figures plus the people involved are genuine gers fans!

21 Apr 2011 16:18:57
Good interview on SSN from Mark McGhee today about all the bombing nonsense, and great to see all the decent Rangers fans condemning the situation.

SickBhoy

21 Apr 2011 13:01:29
Sorry if I am a bit late to the Lennon Death Threat arguement. What I can see which is promising, is both sides of the divide coming together and agreeing that this cannot be tolarated anymore, not matter the scale of the threat. I actually thought those days had passed us by and we were moving on. But a handful of these Scumbags, probably never been to a game, still manage to bring our proud and famous clubs to its knees on a worldwide scale.

In terms of the Sectarian Singing, we either ban it altogether and when you buy a season ticket you are issued with a single warning:
"If you are heard by any steward singing/ shouting sectarian chants or songs of any kind, the police will be called by stewards you will be ejected your name will go on a list, and banned for life."
If the fan wants to protest that a song is or isn't Sectarian, racist whatever, he can argue with the club after he/ she has been ejected.

Why can't Rangers and Celtic season ticket holders demand an emergancy meeting with the heads of the Rangers and Celtic Supporters Associations, Strathclyde Police, and the Boards and finally have something written down in ink for both sides. I am sorry but this is not hard to do. It would remove the scum from the stands also, or keep them quiet throughout matches.

It wont, however, stop these mindless Fuds (Don't remove that word ed, cause that's exactly what they are) being able to send any kind of threat anonomously. But the more Rangers and Celtic do in and around the Grounds to prevent this the more rediculous the scumbags of these clubs will look.

For godsake, Kids go to these matches. I think every Rangers and Celtic Fan have a responsibility by pin pointing these people at games and notifying stewards.

Rikkisixx

(wants to talk about football for a change)

21 Apr 2011 13:13:54
So under the Murray/ King proposal they would spend roughly £5million on the stadium this Summer and McCoist would be given £20 million to spend. Now can we start looking at who we could get for that sort of money. I'll start us of;
Goodwillie £2 million
Wallace £1.5million
Brunt £4 million
Dougalo £2million
Weiss £2 million
Bartley (McGregor to Arsenal for £4 million and Bartley)
Bell (nothing)
Cuellar £5 million

21 Apr 2011 09:36:18
Re: British/ Scottish club

Blue Bear you are right of course. Our team plays in a Scottish League in Scotland.

What I meant by being "quintessentially British" was mutli-cultural and all embracing, rather than pro-establishment.

I'm not particularly "for" the signing of pro-British songs like Brittania, etc. But I am certainly against the pro-loyalist songs which have NO PLACE at a football game.

It's getting to the point where we will need to name and shame those involved. Point fingers, even. What surprises me is this- if a group of fans were to be involved in physical abuse at games, the police and CCTV would pick catch them. NO problem. . but when it comes to vile, poisonous, racist and sectarianism chants the club seems to fail in their duties. Doing all they can? hmmmmmmm. . .

daviet

21 Apr 2011 09:20:11
Kevin Thomson will not be back at rangers! Was a good servant at club but now 3 broken legs in the space of a year and a half? Injuries are now prone to him, aswell as the fact ness Hutton Davis are a good platform to build . All the best to rhino and the rest of his carear.

21 Apr 2011 02:01:19
Maybe the only way to curb the singing is to start banning people who are caught, As i said before some people don't know what they mean and what effect they have on the world. At the end of the day it's football. As much as Mr lemmon Pi**es me off he or his family doesn't deserve the threats he's getting at the moment. As for the takeover i'm getting fed up now, i don't know what to believe. Until a deal is done i'm taking nothing as gospel.

Sergi

21 Apr 2011 01:22:45
In response to some recent posts I agree Celtic need to accept they are a Scottish team and with it they are also a British team. We are part of Britain and whether people like it or not Scotland is not an independent country. (Sorry SNP) Rangers as a club are proud to be British, they even have a picture of the Queen in the dressing room. There is nothing wrong with Celtic fans remembering the Irish heritage of their club but they must remember they are not Irish. Anti-poppy banners and disrespecting the royal family and pretty similar to the sectarian singing. Both have no place, they are both British clubs.

GovanFR

21 Apr 2011 00:18:25
BLU BEAR

I agree with you as Scotland is home to both catholic and Protestant citizens so why not embrace it. I accept many Celtic fans may be Irish but the majority are Scottish and would rather see both sides waving the scottish flag although it would be blue and not green. But tbh I don't mind Celtic but I prefer thinking of them as a Scottish club and not the Irish club they portray themselves as.
As for the lennon bomb incident no one can deny that it is disgusting we watch and passionately follow football as a form of entertainment which it's supposed to be not some war between a divided nation putting peoples lives at risk. No one should be put in danger due to following a different club.
Finally for the takeover I am growing more and more concerned about whyte by the minute and believe someone else will take us forward coz there will be others wanting to buy the club. I just want to see every spl club improve and be financialy secure for a better league.

Monk ( it's only football)