Rangers Banter Archive September 20 2013

 

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20 Sep 2013 20:19:33
Ed. what would the penalty be if we fall into administration? Points deduction/signing ban? {The Ed039's Note - All of the above)

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This is the bit when everyone contradicts themselves Celtic fans will want rangers punished heavier as its a second event but some see that as admitting still the same club. Rangers fans will want a lighter punishment as a first offence for a new club but that would mean admitting not the same club it shall be amusing watching this one unfold those in the know think it will be punishment for a second admin but only because the membership was transfered and it has one event already registered to it

rangobango

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A signing ban & 1/3rd last seasons points total

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Ed, what about liquidation? What if we were liquidated?

Would we loose all our players?

Would we loose our SFA / SPFA membership? Could these be transferred to a successor club? {The Ed039's Note - Again potentially all of the above, and past experience would say thats it would be complicated, if the worst was to happen I wouldnt see any coming back to be honest)

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FFS What are you lot all about. Greetin faced teenies. Get to grips RFC will NOT go back into adm. Who and where started this crap.

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@4, It was the board's own admittance that the funds were almost depleted and that to survive Rangers would need a very large investment (although they did then go onto say that investors have been identified), this was then followed up by high profile businessmen like McColl and King telling us that the club was collapsing and failure is only a matter of when not if. Add to that the failure of the board to compile let alone produce financial statements and accounts and it is no wonder that the average supporter feels abandoned and dismayed, to refer to us as "Greetin Faced teenies" will not change how we feel nor will it answer the unanswered question's that we have and until then you will just have to accept that there is a question mark hanging over the door at Ibrox right now. Thank you for your compassion and understanding in this matter and hope that we are all worrying for no reason and that the club is indeed in safe hands.

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No. 4 that's the reason Ranger's ended up where they are - too many people sticking there heads in the sand with the " It will not happen to us"
Well it did and can happen again.

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(4) Where you been hibernating the last few weeks? do you not know we have managed to lose/spend most of our millions in a year and half period. There is only £4 Million of £40 million plus?There was 10 million according to Mathers etc 6 weeks past? so not hard to work out we skint by end November or slightyly later. Wakey wakey.

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IAM a Rangers fan too, but if we go into Admin or liqudation as you doom mongers say then we don't deserve too come back as a new team or the same team because we are the laughing stock of euro football as it is just now with everything going on at the club as it is, too many oeople with their hands in the honey pot, if jim McColl and the rest know what's going to happen too us if what you all are saying then they should stop pussy footing around and do something about it they all have the money to take the club over so put up or shut up.

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I posted not that long ago when they said they had ten mil left and I said did they prove it did they show you bank statements or official docs. NO, now your down to four mil and once again I say, did they prove it, did they show any official docs to verify it or is it just say so again. they, ve lied to you from day one, they, re still lying to you now I don't think they, ve anything and they, re up to it in debt again. but that's only my opinion. gary

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21 Sep 2013 20:32:26
Think Mr King and mr McColl will come in and rescue Rangers after we have suffered another administration. let's face it why should they give money to the Green/Ahmad/Mather faction?

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King etc. are businessmen. They have not made their fortune by following their heart. Why spend millions when you can get the same product a whole lot cheaper? Not only that, they gain support by basically keeping the original entity in existence. The people running the business now have not cared about the heart of the club, only about creating a saleable commodity. Why would they keep Ally (lovely guy, Rangers legend but not a great manager IMO)? He helps sell the package. They have way overspent to win the divisions but that also helps sell ST's and merchandise. All money coming in to be redistributed amongst the vultures. I feel that they have achieved their main objective to sell the package and cream the cash. Now the clock is ticking. Is it too late? I think so, and if admin 2 does come then I can't see a CVA being accepted. There are a lot of bitter people who feel the club got off lightly the last time. The only way to allow this once great club to progress lies in the hands of the fans worldwide but this has to be done as a business consortium not pumping a bunch of cash into a FFF which was wasted! Just my own personal thoughts.

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22 Sep 2013 02:44:05
Where has the 4m figure came from? Did I miss something?

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20 Sep 2013 14:45:55
There's an awfy lot of Celtic chat on here for a Rangers page is there no?
Disappointingly most of it brought up by ourselves?! I thought it was them that were supposed to be obsessed with us?

Anyway, if Celtic comment is what you're after then here's my contribution.

A decent performance from Celtic the other night, especially in the San Siro and highlighted by the comments of the Milan players after the game. Lots of talk about Milan having 9 players out etc?! a wee bit sour grapes I reckon I'm sure I saw the likes of Balotelli strutting his stuff and after all, it was still Milan at the San Siro.
Bears get a grip, like it or not the better Celtic and other Scottish clubs do the better it is for the coefficient in Scotland. I for one would like to think that when we get back to the prem we won't have to be playing 3 qualifying rounds just to get to the table. Also, while I don't particularly rate Lennon as a manager do you think Ally is capable of having us do better at champions league level?! I cannae bear thinking about it although I know many of you don't have a bad word to say about the man. Faithful to the end, like an auld dug sitting by it's dying owner (hopefully an analogy that doesn't come to pass to literally).
So well done with the way you went about the game Celtic. I'll not get excited if you win games and I dare say I'll have a wee chuckle if you get pumped but realistically I'd like to take the stance of greats like Grieg and McNeil. Two friends who gave their all for their separate clubs whilst treating each other with respect and dignity. There's an awfy lot of hatred and bitterness in Scottish society. It doesn't make you more of a Rangers supporter because you can demonstrate how much you hate Celtic. Just makes folk look a bit brain dead and childish to be honest. Same goes for the muppets on the other side.
We are where we are through no fault of us (the fans) and that is a tough one to swallow but it is what it is. Grow up, let go of the bitterness, shelve the paranoia and move on.
The only way is up, quite literally!

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@op well said timmy but celtic doing well in Europe or any Scottish team for that matter doesn't do much for the coefficient it's the national team and with them keep dropping like a lead balloon then it's 3 qualifiers just to get to the champs league {The Ed039's Note - it has absolutely nothing to do with the national team&

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20 Sep 2013 18:17:16
@op please enlighten me why it is us the fans fault as to where we are? Why what has the fans done to deserve administration and to have to start again? This should be good.

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20 Sep 2013 18:26:23
@op if I have picked you up wrong then I can only apologise.

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@1- LOL!, I'm the OP but forgot to log in. Interesting that you called me Timmy though, that about sums up my point. Fine knowledge of how the coefficient works too. Well done you. I notice you didn't leave a name so I'll just refer to you as pleb :0)

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Well said op! If only more fans would take your lead then finally the club could move on and be better if the fans look inside thier own house then at Celtic. If that is done then the climb up would be faster and easier

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Probably the most sensible post for a very long time.

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Decent? well I counted 7 good chances for milan in the first half alone, doug t. s. o

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By the way the only way I went online to see milans goals was to cheer me up lol doug t. s. o

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Another good post from baybear. Start to worry when I see his posts now, seems one of the only guys who posts good banter on here.

I'll be 100% honest, when rangers done the 08 run I was glad they lost (as a Celtic fan) but was glad they done it to the final because makes Scottish football look not like a joke like it already did/does.

Baybear I wouldn't usually praise one of my own fans for good posts but 9/10 your spot on with your posts rangers or tic (very rarely the latter lol) posts!

Lenny

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@3 :0) aye, you did pick me up wrong but no bother. I do that all the time. It's most definitely not our fault.
@7 well done you can count to 7! Doesn't change the fact that a team from a pretty poor set up in Scotland raised their game and should be proud of the performance they gave their fans Think I'll call you Neil Lemon because you are so bitter ;0) Man up Doug, seems like you're just looking for negatives because you Cannae bring yourself to accept Celtic put in a decent performance.

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@9 cheers Lenny, I think I may have posted twice on the Tic site at the most. No disrespect but I generally don't go on it because, well, because I follow Rangers and it makes me feel like a creepy peeping tom going on there. I haven't got any need to be wasting my time over there with all the sh173 going on at my own club. Anyway, I have enough Timmy mates to keep telling me how great they are and how I'm a zombie apparently. I just laugh and ask them why they care if we're dead. I've not had a valid answer yet :0)

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One of most sensible posts on here for a while. I posted somrthing similiar last season and got pelters for it, hope attitudes are changing. Only one thing I will say is that although I agree the current situation is no fault of us (the fans) I believe we have not helped ourselves or reputation throughout the football family by the offensive singing etc and fines of a few years ago. The phrase used by OP doesn't make you a better rangers supporter is spot on.

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@12 couldn't agree more

Doug- apologies, just read my reply to you now I'm sober and it comes across more of a dig than it was supposed to. Thought it was a bit more light hearted banter when I wrote it. :0)

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22 Sep 2013 02:30:47
@Doug. So you went on a website just to see the goals but counted that Milan missed 7 chances in the first half? Do you really expect us to believe that twaddle? You are by far one of the biggest clowns on here, provide a link to this site you only seen the goals on but counted 7 good chances and prove you are not a lying fool. I don't expect an answer, at least not a sensible one. Unlike you I'm a Rangers supporter not a celtic hater, I watched and thoroughly enjoyed their game, the full match, why can't you admit the same? As a side note, what age are you, you need to grow up, and the sooner the better, for all our sakes.

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Good post. I agree the mess then and now is not the fans fault. Could they have done more? I have my thoughts and opinion on this. If half the rumours are true then there is more bad news looming and, again, not a lot the fans can do. Boycotts? Never really agreed with them. However, maybe it would at least send a message to the board that the fans have an opinion. Probably won't happen having witnessed previous apathy for supporting action. No real strong leader for the fans to get behind and truth be told, it's reached the stage where the fans do not trust or believe any of the powers that be anymore.

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20 Sep 2013 12:57:43
I cannot believe all the constant rubbish on here about signing this player or signing that player whether it is Zaliukas or Pandza, WE DON'T NEED THEM' the squad we have is more than enough for where we are at present.
With all that is going on with our Club behind the scenes and the uncertainty we should be stabilising the Club from top to bottom before it is too late.
Bears, wake up, open your eyes and let's take the Club forward making it stronger as we go and not to another financial ruin

Wullie - RTiD

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Wullie - from all reports financial ruin is now inevitable.

It might be time to plan for the near future and look at who we want to keep going forward.

Time to line up the failures and bump them?

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If 2nd admin is possibility we won't have to dump them. they will get exited like rest of high wage earners, just as ie Dundee, Hearts, Dumfermline altho not us last time? which may have been start of our problems? befor even began?

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20 Sep 2013 16:54:55
I mentioned this before but Jim McColl said last month that "By his reckoning there are just 36 days left to save Rangers from 20 years of further financial pain and suffering. "

This was 37 days ago but very few Bears have picked up on it and sadly more seemed interested in Milan beating Celtic in the CL (and to be fair I posted myself about my bet on Rangers & Milan).

Anyone know why he would be be so specific with the number of days he mentioned?

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20 Sep 2013 18:37:01
I can't help think after the 2nd administration which is surely coming we will need this players to get back the points deduction and to get through an other Transfer embargo! Why do you think all these players have been brought in and why black didn't get the sack? We will need all these players for the above reasons or so we can sell them on at a small profit in transfer fees.

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20 Sep 2013 09:31:53
Ed- Is Dean Shiels injured? {Ed001's Note - as far as I can find out, no.}

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McCoist would not risk playing Shiels on the artificial surface for the QOS game thus his absence from squad. He was also not 100% fit so this allowed a clear week for recovery.

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Rumours that he won't play for the Gers again - tried to dump him during the transfer window but no one would match the package he is on just now.

Said to be 10k+ per week by the time we get to premier league - same as Sandaza

Wallace and Sheils seen as the main assets on the staff and the only ones worth a transfer fee of any size.

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@2 don't listen to rumours, he is on the bench today and I would expect to see him brought on at sometime

JG

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20 Sep 2013 09:42:29
So rangers and ther fans are angry that Celtic pk will be used for the ramsden cup final, what is going on in your heads wasn't ibrox used when Hampden was built, it is going beyond paranoia, now it just "ucking scary get a grip of your life's, the same people moaning are the same Peaple if they picked Hamilton accies. Or Motherwell would be screaming that ther isn't enough seats it just going beyond the line of madness or is it badness, unreal you really have to stop and take time out Sad

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I don't remember anyone on here posting about it. I do however, remember celtic fans mentioning it, praying rangers don't make the final incase we damage their beloved stadium. Very short memories from either the deluded or the ignorant. Wasnt so long ago an u17s final at ibrox had flares set off and seats destroyed by the celtic faithful.

Gaz.

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Whose complaining? This paranoia as you refer to it has been started in the press, no where else. Personally I hope it is there and 60,000 bears turn up and fill the place, however the final is 7 months away and Rangers are not even there, why is being discussed at all in the papers right now? Totally disrespectful to the the other clubs involved. PB

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@ op haven't heard or read anything about
celtic pk being used for final, what I did
read yesterday was that celtic pk would
probably be ruled out as a venue as the
money to hire it. was to expensive,
billy h

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Well when you own your stadium you can charge what you like, one day in about 100 years rangers can do the same hay, wouldn't ya say billy h

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@ 4 and your evidence we don't own
our own stadium is? Get your facts
right first no name poster
billy h

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Op you are talking out your archie

I was there with thousands of others for the memorable 1996 league cup final against hearts and no bears were complaining, it was even better when super and gazza both scored 2 each to lift the trophy

remember we follow follow everywhere anywhere, if we go to porkheid we will follow on

JG

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20 Sep 2013 12:40:23
I actually believe Celtic should say no thanks, its very likely a good part of our stadium will be trashed by a small minority of morons.

If any where is suitable, it should be Murrayfield, even these lunatics would have no reason to damage that stadium.

Tim Goa.

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@1 was that game not at firhill

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@8 there was 1 at firhill and 1 at ibrox by the so called best fans in the world.

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21 Sep 2013 04:59:37
once again anothr hafwit with the old "you all " and "everyone on here" nonsense, I've never heard anyone complaining about a cup final being played at the Towers, its all in your tiny mind m8 tommyblue

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