Rangers Banter Archive October 20 2012

20 Oct 2012 21:31:23
Rumours flying about that the tax case report to be out within 2weeks..& all rangers media are intrested in is should ally go back to wearing a suit,as they dont like him in trackies!erm a think they should be concentrating on bigger issues..armageddon

Yeah as you say rumours. Should they be interested in all RUMOURS?

I don't think that's a rumour that the tax case result will be out shortly to the public. I's a fact.

If, as I believe, the result has gone against Murray it will be interesting to see how Green responds in light of their recent cosying up to one another. Since Green used the renaming of Murray Park as part of his publicity to sell season tickets, I'll be very angry if we don't still get the chance to honour either Coop or Moses McNeil.

BARNEY BEAR

20 Oct 2012 19:01:00
How many players have achieved their goals by playing with (as against for) rangers. They think rangers win by default. They are being asked to play now, they are not stepping up to the mark. dont blame Ally

Ally has given the support to CG they will win the league but he has to have a cull at Murray park

The manager picks the team and is ultmately responsible for results. Have any of his signings done anything? The French and Greek have been awful and why sign Kyle? There are plenty of first division players who know the Scottish game and would have done a better job yet Ally would rather sign unknown foreigners and a has been

20 Oct 2012 17:29:32
Just back from the game,I'm sorry but that was a lot of sh&£ we looked on par with bloody queens park! Wer lucky we got 3points! The performances week in week out are atrocious!how did we end up this poor! Disgruntled bear

I would love to know just what the coaching staff are taking in wages. When McKay left and talked down the coaching at the club it was glossed over,i think we are now seeing what he meant.The lack of cohesion and movement is truly awful,and when you think the team is now pretty much settled it makes it worse.If Queens had scored the sitter they missed who knows what might have happened. AB.

Spot on mate, scratching a 1-0 win up until last minute. Dire.

Were you at a different game from the poster below?

@1 Queens had a chance, it was not a sitter, how can you say he missed a sitter when Alexander came out and blocked the ball. Yes be pissed off at the way we played but dont take something away from alexander when he deserves it. Queens never missed, Alexander saved.
By the sounds of your post you sound like you have had enough of RFC and to be honest am p!ssed off reading your type of posts and wonder why you bother to go to the games.
Why post your drivel?

Maybe we need some new coaching staff who understand the lower leagues, as well as the present coaching staff. (I'm not calling for anyone's head) yet!

Very recently Ally was giving it, "Bring on the Celtic!"....don't think you really meant that Ally....just a bit of bravado eh?...:)

By the way simple question what do you expect the results to be rangers are a third div team playing third div football. Next season they will be a second div team playing second div football. The season after that a first div team. The season after that a top div team that's it we will win the league stop worrying results are results get used to it and stop dreaming of us pumping teams 5 or 6 nil it ain't going to happen every week simple as

@4. I would never take the credit from Alexander,in my opinion one of the few to attain pass marks weekly,but the fact remains the boy should have scored. What i am fed up with is fans,maybe like you,who seem to think all is well.It is not. The football we are playing is dire,we have a manager who seems unable to change the shape of the team. AB.

I agree AB all is not well fine we won today.
Are we aspiring to be good 3rd division team cos were definately not, sure we will probably win the league at a canter but with our resources we should be far better, it's almost November just hit the top against part timers some of who are not being a paid a complete disgrace. For those of us who say it doesn't matter as long as we get there that's the wrong attitude we should be doing it with pride with the ability that some of our players have shown in the past shows that something is far wrong, just because we are where we are the fans must expect better and stop this crap on show week after week, if we accept this Sh-t our standards will not improve and we may lose some of our great fans who will only put up with these dire displays for so long. I must say I never thought I would say this Celtic and their supporter must be enjoying the way we have slumped so low. It's time to get our act together and show the club this is not good enough.
Bobby

Lets not forget when everyone is fit we have a threadbare squad and at moment a threadbare team. The youngsters are doing ok but with youngsters it can be a case of 1 impressive performance then a couple of mediocre ones. Only the really special talents perform week in week out. I do think we invite too much pressure on ourselves and make harder work of these games than necessary. Must improve our possession of the ball. Queens weren't that far away from possibly taking a point today.

Bobby if we lose fans due to results they ain't great fans in my eyes there glory hunters great fans are fans who support the team no matter what. The problem is your still stuck in the past thinking we are something great were not were a third div team. Grow a set support the team and stop your greeting. Yes we do have better resources and this will ensure we get back to where we need to be

Sorry in advance to AB and Bobby but having read a number of your posts I have become confused as you say things like us and we now whereas I am positive previous posts read like the darkside was involved????

Well I used to post as 'AB' recently someone else doing it. Unless he has recently joined. Lets be honest there is only one AB!!!

AB( original)xx

20 Oct 2012 16:13:43
It's clear for everyone to see Mr green isn't keeping ally as manager for football reasons, ally is embarrassing our great club, can't believe he's got Hutton and black in together, 2 defensive midfielders playing against queens park, worst manager in rangers history.

Give the guy a freekn break. 3 points in the bag. one game more played. Move on, we will get there. More important things to worry about ffs.

The guy is a terrible manager and I agree with the post he ain't there as manager for footballing reasons. The team is appalling and to be struggling against part time sides is highly embarrassing. It's clear the players don't listen to McCoist as they still churn out this rubbish week in week out

If you remember Ally said after the Stirling game he was glad of the international break so they could work on the players to improve their ball skills and passing. Looks to me they went on holiday instead - must have seen a bargain on lastminute.com
JMG

20 Oct 2012 10:39:39
can anyone tell me if the shares will have voting rights because if NOT they are just a bit of coloured paper

Not many people have paper shares these days, more likely be spinning around in cyber space, pick whatever colour you want.

You could make planes out if them. db

20 Oct 2012 01:09:12
I have never read such absolute rubbish as is posted on here in last couple of days, almost all posted by Bhoy this or that.
Whyte wants millions which will mean that Green takeover will be reversed. What a load of garbage. Cannot happen in any circumstances.
HMRC will reverse sale ans sell for best price. Rubbish, the best price that was offered was accepted. The asset price in accounts and what they are worth are a million miles
away. The best price at the time was £5.5m. Doesn't matter if now £50m, the best price at the time was accepted.
Green will issue share issue for capital to run club, what happens next year, more to pay or we go bust. Rubbish, the figures add up, the costs slashed, well under income, with added merchandise money there is no chance of going bust.
Why does Green want money now when we can't sign anybody. Why not? It is good practice to have money in reserve.
Green will make a profit, good hope he does, he has saved my club when the other "Rangers" men I'd not or would not or could not. He deserves to earn from that.
No doubt the bhoys will next week be going on about Ticketus, after all that hasn't been the topic for a couple of weeks.
Why don't they just let us get on with it and worry about us in a few years time, after all it makes no difference to them, so they say. For something that doesn't matter they sure have a lot to say on the subject.

"Whyte wants millions which will mean that Green takeover will be reversed. What a load of garbage. Cannot happen in any circumstances."

Two words - Gratuitous Alienation

OP. Rubbish. D&P did not. DID NOT explore every option for the disposal of assets to repay creditors, they only attempted to sell Rangers assets as a football club. If the fixed assets had been sold openly far more money would have been raised for creditors. This is why this deal will be reversed. D&P welched on their legal obligations. Rangers Bye Bye.

Oh dear a bear who does not even know difference between adminitstrators ( who try to sell distressed business for best price) and liquidators (who check that best price achieved and can undo any sale if not)

d&p tried to be both , and were stopped by hmrc/court.....

Whyte has floating charge on ibrox just in case hmrc can reverse the sale to newco......doh they that smart they thought of this possibility while you dont even know its a possibility

when you dine this before you learn and put in place fallback positions

if bdo unwind sale to newco, then whyte gets £30million or more of that first, before hmrc and others

its win-win for green-white

and loose-loose for ra bers,ni matter what happens as you in admin, you gonna be liquidated, you in div 3, you dont own stadium anymore, you dont own shirts anymore,you dont own image rights, or pie sales, or st money......whats left...some good looking bairns getting creamed on lumpy pitches and kicked into injury times

where is the upside for gers.... oh yes you history, which could be unravelled toooo

At last some sense posted, so what if the guy finishes up making money would we rather have the doors shut. Very similar to when ''the bunnet'' saved the other side or they would have been down the tube. So many forget there was nobody else other than a lot of wind and p..s [zero cash] from John Brown, Blue Knights etc.

Sorry but you are living in a parallel universe.The figures add up? How would you know?Mr Green has not let any numbers been known,another strange situation,and that is a concern.Gratuitous alienation is also a big concern as is ticketus.One man could put this to bed with one open,honest statement,so why does he not do just that? The prospectus may clear up all the cynics questions,lets hope so for the sake of the club.AB.

How do you know "nobody else" wanted to bid... ? Cos D&P say soo.. who picked them Whyte ?

Whyte-Green-D&P sat down and planned this out before stepping in.... all worked out, how to make money in all eventualities....

Smith & Co offer £6 million.... after cva failed.

Kennedy offered £5 million for 50% - which values at £10 million.

none of these offers accepted, as D&P **chose** to sell to Green - but if D&P had talked to Green before being made admins - they conflicted - and this invalid sale...!!!

;(

Right bhoy wonders let me amuse you with just a slight possibility as to what the overall plan might be by CW and CG is make it so no matter what all money goes to them no matter what happens rangers are found guilty of tax case but don't pay HMRC a penny therefore that debt cleared which could not have happened under normal circumstances. So what next you say the sale to green reversed and different assets sold individually well what would that raise 10mil for Murray park between 15to25mil for ibrox 2mil for car park but in reality who would pay these prices or have you already got that all sorted out. And even if they do sell individually whyte gets the first 26mil green would have to get his money back so there would still be no extra cash for creditors. Yes all the things you say are a possibility but that doesn't mean it's going to happen honestly boys get a grip and stop wanting the worst possible outcome in reality what would you do with all your spare time if rangers were no more