Rangers Banter Archive November 20 2016

 

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20 Nov 2016 17:44:02
with all the different opinions on here and the variety of sarcasm, its obvious we are all going to different games and some of us don't really know the meaning of banter, c'mon guys get real and see the bigger picture, we all have our favourite players and our biased opinions but let's not forget our club was almost out of business a few years back, and King and Co have a humungous job keeping us solvent until we get shot of Ashley and we start getting some European cash. And remember like it or not, we are playing these days in a league that is crying out for funding and serious revamp.



20 Nov 2016 18:38:32
Well said wee bill. I don't have many fav players nowadays right enough. None of them are good enough. That's pretty obvious when Clint hill has been one of our best signings!



20 Nov 2016 17:59:20
Agreed mate. The short memory and fickle nature are sadly a pandemic in football. We have been to hell and back and some people are losing there sh1t over a few dropped points!



20 Nov 2016 19:08:26
Have to laff at the dhims for slagging us for celebrating a last min win against the leagues bottom club. i seem to remember Rogic scoring a last min goal last season against killie (bottom at the time) and ther manky fans exploding on to the trackside then daft Ronny giving it the auld fist-pump at the end. and the best thing abt it was, we weren't even in the league at the time😂.



20 Nov 2016 21:10:27
Would that be the rogic goal that helped us on our way to our 5th title in a row? That's the difference pal! We weren't celebrating staying in 3rd place in the league 11 points behind the champs! And what difference did it make yous weren't in the league last year! Even if u were its not like u would have been anywhere near us! Lol. and your in the same division as us this year and we'll still win it by a country mile! By even more points than last year! And we're the ones who are the dhims to! Haha.



20 Nov 2016 22:19:27
remember the 5 asterisks Wissi.



20 Nov 2016 23:30:37
5 asterisks! Whatever do u mean? Surely u can't mean we some how won these titles unfairly or by cheating or by spending money we never had! Because by that logic your #goinfor55 would be right out the window wouldn't it! Haha. no 6 in a row will just be as sweet as titles 1-5 mate! Lol.



21 Nov 2016 06:52:58
Oh Piss81 i love how u still come on and take the bait like a big salmon on a page of a team who u and your kind don't even believe exsist anymore. can't take a wummin like u serious pal.



21 Nov 2016 07:07:19
spending money we didn't have? just like your club special to money they never had? just like most clubs in the world spend money they don't have?



21 Nov 2016 09:57:22
Yeh cee but the difference is most clubs who spend that money don't go bust, still owing everyone and there granny money! Yir man above mentioned 5 asteriks implying that some how our titles were won by cheating or unfairly! Which they clearly were not! Just like the one we win this season! And bluedie who's asking u take a wummin like me seriously? the facts speak for themselves pal! And you need something to bait me with! Like wining titles or cups! Something that's not even remotely close to happening! Lol.



21 Nov 2016 11:29:00
your saying we cheated because we spent money we didn't have, you club did it aswell did you cheat then?



21 Nov 2016 12:20:26
No my club never cheated because we never went bust owing everybody money! We've never spent beyond our means and look how it's turned out for both clubs! One raking in massive sponsorship deals and CL money and on the verge of 6 titles in a row, and well you know the story with your own club cee! Not a pot to piss in and struggling to compete against bottom 6 side teams! That's not me making anything up, it's a fact!



21 Nov 2016 12:52:41
what I has going bust got to do with this? your whole argument is we spent money we never had ie. had debt. your club had debt, the bonnet bailed you lot out but you still had debt ie. spent money YOU NEVER HAD. so if we cheated because we spent money we never had then every single club on the planet who has had debt at some point cheated. that is your argument.



21 Nov 2016 13:35:04
No that ain't my argument! Lol. my argument was with one of your fellow deluded fan! Who said remember the 5 asterisk! Implying that we cheated or won our titles unfairly or spent money we never had! Which is utter pish! We've never spent beyond our means hence the state of both clubs! But u just carry on making up things if that makes u feel better!



21 Nov 2016 15:13:02
I think you're incapable of learning personally. You need to read back the crap you've just written.



21 Nov 2016 14:28:12
your titles are tainted wiss go back and listen to your own fans then u might get sum1 to agree with you.
p. s. we never cheated, we still beat yous fair and square call it cheating all you want you can't take back the years of joy rangers brought me.

we are going through a bad time in which we aren't playing great football but will still finish a comfortable second and it wa only the most deluded fans that thought we would challenge this year.



21 Nov 2016 17:41:40
Wiss81,Rangers went bust because we got bought by a crook who asset stripped us then deliberately never payed income tax to put the club into administration, we got robbed blind, Rangers only owed 18 million at the time of the sale to that bastard white, and the reason the club went into liquidation was no one was willing to take a chance because of the potential ebt case hanging over the club, Celtic were very lucky they got fergus and dermot, unfortunately for rangers we got the opposite.



21 Nov 2016 20:09:59
Again with the tainted titles! Again I'll say at what point did we cheat win unfairly or any other way a title win would be tainted! And when we win the league this year and the year after will they be tainted to? Or will they be valid just because yous happen to be in it? Even though by the end of the season u will be nowhere near us having presented no challenge! And Del it was nothing to do with luck we got fergus and dermot! These are business men who actually have a clue how to run a business!



22 Nov 2016 09:51:09
What assets did Whyte strip from you, Murray left Rangers on a life support machine, clueless Whyte takes it on, mccoist doesn't get into Europe, and loses a 15 point lead, then you go bust. That is the facts.



22 Nov 2016 10:21:50
Listen you're blinded by spite and bitterness. I don't have time for it or to go over this old crap again and again. Whyte didn't pay tax to the sum of I think 9m. He then tipped us into Admin/ Liquidation. It was the plan all along, he is known for being an asset stripper, it's what he does. Hence the reason for so many fans shouting about him at the start, hence the reason for him being in court, did you miss that bit? or do you just choose to ignore that fact also.

Whilst you enjoy today and tomorrow, so do we, as each day is a step closer to being back to our best.



22 Nov 2016 12:26:05
Whyte is nothing but an idiot, how many asset strippers do you know that loose everything, have umpteen court cases, signed a personal guarantee for £20, and stares jail straight in the face.
I'm sorry you believe all you want, but Murray caused this to your club, no one else.
Ps let's not forget the £90m tax bill when Whyte took over.



21 Nov 2016 22:18:45
Wiss, interesting that you keep referring to the titles being tainted. The asterisks signify your traditional adversery was prevented from competing. Good luck on Wednesday.



20 Nov 2016 17:35:39
Thought performance yesterday was not too bad and most importantly we got the 3 points. Garner, Holt and Windass in particular looked good. Really want MOH to come good and pleased he is getting a run but don't think we is shaping up yet. Would like to see Dodoo get more of a run in the kenny Miller role. Well done supersub Harry!



20 Nov 2016 18:04:32
Think Holty has been a bit inconsistent at times but he always wants the ball and his energy and movement are important to creating space! His work rate is outstanding! Windass in a class act, a pleasure to watch him get on the ball and play! Personally, I love Garner, a lot of fans had written him off already but I think he's shown a lot of quality! Should have scored yesterday but his link up play was good, on several occasions won a header he had no right to win and found a blue shirt when there were none within 30 yards of him and the lad is a warrior!



21 Nov 2016 02:21:45
though MOH was poor yesterday against Kilmarnock thought he was outstanding exciting to watch but since been poor Windas had a great game I like Gardner as well he's a rough diamond but will get better but needs someone with him he won't score 20-25 goals a season but could make the space for someone who could but will we play two up front mmmmm defence looked ok but again plenty of possession without doing a lot with it and with that it gets a bit flat ball backwards sideways but not to often forward I get the feeling if it's not a perfect goal we don't want to score it sometimes a shot or send the ball into the box and have someone in there to get on it the midfield need to get in and around that box only +3 in goal difference that tells its own storey.



21 Nov 2016 10:10:53
garner is a warrior I agree with that.
but we don't need a warrior, we need a goalscorer.

I know it won't happen but i'd still like a 4-4-2 so we could get more players in the middle of the park as there are no passes for the defence to make half the time so it always goes back to wes.
think our keeper has had more touches of the ball this season that garner and MOH put together.



21 Nov 2016 17:22:04
Garner will score goals James! He already has a few and is the only player we have in the squad that will gamble in the six yard box and that can win a ball in the air! The issue is that the wide players don't contribute goals and the midfield haven't got many either! Not keen on being critical of Miller but last few games he's taking far too many touches and giving the ball away cheaply so I'd drop him and play McKay or Dodoo instead!



21 Nov 2016 18:50:27
We need a warrior and a goal scorer!



20 Nov 2016 13:44:41
Our team have not clicked yet, we are still making chances and have great possession of the ball . I agree we need a cutting edge but I think that will come with time for the players to adjust to having to win every week . I would take a 1 - 0 win every week, We are third and we have not seen the best of our team keep the faith we will click and start to see some goals.



21 Nov 2016 10:12:44
I don't know about great possession of the ball but we have a lot of it just mostly our defence playing the ball around between themselves doesn't make it great to watch tbh.



22 Nov 2016 00:22:38
How long will it take us to click damo? Folk have been saying that from August it's now almost December, not like we've got a whole new team usually 8 from last season playing regularly why do they need so much time to gel 3 new players in?



20 Nov 2016 09:58:23
I agree with Rafbob. You'd think we'd lost. It doesn't matter when you score a goal to win a match! Celtic only won 1-0 on Friday night too so what is the big deal. If we'd won even 3 of the games we've drawn that would have been 6 more points. It is still a work in progress. Having said that, all the hype about Crooks, Rossiter and to a lesser extent Dodoo and none of them have been given a run. Tough games coming up against Hearts and Aberdeen. That will really tell us how far we have to go.



20 Nov 2016 11:08:56
If we won with a goal in 92 mins and we were top they would be saying this is how championships are won.



20 Nov 2016 12:04:33
Yeah but we aren't top and we aren't anywhere winning the league so your point is irrelevant.



20 Nov 2016 12:35:39
I thought we were actually quite descent yesterday. We had good possession with some great passing against a team who simply turned up and parked the bus.



20 Nov 2016 12:35:39
I thought we were actually quite descent yesterday. We had good possession with some great passing against a team who simply turned up and parked the bus.



20 Nov 2016 22:55:09
dundee never once looked like scoring whereas Kilmarnock had more than a few.



21 Nov 2016 09:16:03
yes cee. a couple of half chances. celtic had a goal dis-allowed and and won the game comfortably.

rangers on the other hand look like a lamb waiting for the slaughter until the goal. if harry forrester never scored then yous would be calling to MW to go. AGAIN.



21 Nov 2016 10:18:37
kaney see you mate you talk utter P*SH .
green tinted glasses again mate.
your team woncomfertably because you scored in the first half that's all and rangers never looked in danger that entire game if anything we just couldn't finish our dinner but that will come good once we horse a team things will turn aqround for us so just you keep talking your nonsense just now mate and enjoy it while it lasts.

not this year maybe not next but we are coming to get our 55th title.



21 Nov 2016 22:43:10
Recall years ago (under George Graham I think) Arsenal had reputation of winning games one nil. Their fans still chant "one nil to the Arsenal". If we win every game one nil scoring in the 92nd minute I think I for one would be happy.



22 Nov 2016 00:28:07
James Stirling, we horsed killie mate everybody claimed we had turned the corner. Well go on a run now etc etc was mentioned on here, what happened? Straight back to being rank rotten. Under Warburtons command and playing his 4-3-3 he won't change from were not capable of going on a run think we'll be lucky to put 4 wins in a row together all season, we're happy just to pass the ball sometimes looks like we don't even want to score.



20 Nov 2016 08:47:17
I feel like I'm missing something, did we lose yesterday?!

People say it doesn't have to be pretty, we just need the three points and when that happens they slate everything?

Dundee were rarely out of their own half yesterday and most of their side were defending!

That shows our team was on top of the game. We struggled to score for 93mins; but we had ample opportunity and deservedly got the goal in the end.

Every game with the exception of two, we have played teams who break on the counter attack whilst parking the bus.

Yes they broke away a few times and it looked like it was going to be one of those days, but we were all over them and they threw bodies in front of every shot.

If O'dea wasn't on the pitch it would have been 3 or 4-0 in my opinion.



20 Nov 2016 09:03:53
I was at the game and we absolutely hammered them! That tells me its not the formation. IMO we need a midfielder that can shoot from outside the box and a clinical striker! January will be important.



20 Nov 2016 10:40:05
I have asked this question before. The fans who want rid of mw after 13 games in first season back in spl if you got your wish and mw was sacked how long would you give new manager.



20 Nov 2016 11:54:29
While I agree that fans are over reacting a bit, it is a fact that we struggle to convert the possession and chances into goals. I would bet if you looked at the stats it is quite embarrassing how many we fail to convert. This conspires to make us look very vulnerable and sometimes as if we have run out of ideas.

It is clear that we need a class Centre Forward who can hold the ball up and score goals. Not easy to find. We still need better centre half although Keirnen and Hill are improving game by game

I am happy to give MW until The end of the season and would just about accept 2nd or 3rd this year. 3rd place would be financially disastrous in terms of Europe.



21 Nov 2016 06:59:41
It not only the last 13 games MW is being judged on. We have been very poor since we beat them in last season's semi final.



21 Nov 2016 10:28:08
we had already won the league and I think players took their feet off the pedal for me that blame lies with them not our manager.

I know 90 percent of fans before this season started would have happily taken second and seen that as success our first season back.

if we get second warbs must stay, I think the team he built is brilliant considering most of them where free transfers. don't think anyone could have done any better with no money.

hopefully we have something sorted out with the fat rat by next season and funds from Europe so he can by a quality centre back and a goalscorer which is what we a lacking.
our midfield I think is very strong once everyone is fit .

13 games into the season is far to quick to to judge a manager that's basically saved us from terrible fottball, got us promotion beat them ion a semi-final and built this team that did those things with no money.

for me mw still wears a magic hat even if he has different ideas from what I would want to do with the team.



21 Nov 2016 14:45:01
We shouldn't just be happy with 2nd if the standard of football is gash. 2nd is great if we look like we are progressing. However, just now the team is undeniably going backwards.



22 Nov 2016 00:32:16
100% agree mate last seasons intensity has gone something just doesn't seem right to me personally. Maybe cast the net a bit farther than English lower league signings must be some wee gems kicking about Europe that wouldn't cost a bomb.



20 Nov 2016 08:35:34
legend dj on phone in says we need a poacher as we struggle to score. personaly i think garner needs better service.



20 Nov 2016 11:40:25
I agree. We have a talented squad no doubt but we need a young McCoist or Boyd to regularly stick the ball in the net.



20 Nov 2016 13:50:15
Don't think the service has been too bad, many chances have been spurned.



20 Nov 2016 22:55:51
garner sets up quite a few. Kenny miller missed 3 absolute sitters against dundee.



21 Nov 2016 10:29:53
ive seen both garner and miller miss a ton of chances some of them sitters.
id have to agree with dj we need a goalscorer.



21 Nov 2016 18:59:59
There is not enough Muscle, not enough bite and not enough commitment from too many players. We are leaderless. Our Captain is a poor communicator on the field and instead of leading by example and driving the team forward when needed he tends to disappear! I would like to see a quality centre back and a hard tackling central midfield player with a bit of skill with one or both of them having the qualities needed to lead the team. Hopefully a fit Rossiter, (if that ever happens), and or Crooks, could also make a difference to the team. Holt was ok in the Championship but he struggles in the top league and is too lightweight as is McKay. In McKay's case he has the ability and needs to spend time with Willie Johnston to learn how to look after himself on the football park!



22 Nov 2016 17:41:46
Eye that's right Tom, we need a Bud Johnstone. Recall Aberdeen player John McMaster had to be given the kiss of life during a game against Rangers at Ibrox in 1980 after Johnston stamped on his throat. Bud's response, "I thought it was Willie Miller".



20 Nov 2016 00:28:49
with all the other criticisms of Warburton, I also blame him for the Senderos sending off v Celtic. He clearly had not played for months but was thrown in at the deep end with a bunch of strangers to take on the strongest team in the league by far, it pains me to praise them but it is true. Now Senderos is a forgotten man whose confidence is shot. Take a GOOD LOOK at his CV, he ain't no mug.



20 Nov 2016 06:16:12
100 percent correct wee bill!
It pains me to say it but I do believe Warburton ain't up to it and it wouldn't surprise me if he's off ski soon? 🇬🇧.



20 Nov 2016 16:30:18
So warburton made him rugby tackle a Celtic player in the middle of the park? then made him jump and do a volley ball smash with the ball 2 of the most ridiculous bookings I've saw many a player has made there debut in a old firm game and played a blinder he had a shocker like the rest of the squad on the day! hill and Kieran are playing well at the back so senderos shouldn't be starting at the moment.



20 Nov 2016 22:57:02
senderos is absolutely gash and always has been, Clint Hill and kiernan have not conceded a goal from open play since the celtic game.



21 Nov 2016 10:35:26
senderos used to be a great defender imo but lost it at least 2 years before he came to us. warbs fault are you guys serious . I mean c'mon give the guy who turned this team around a break.
he deserves your support, he got us promoted and playing great football once again and he done this without money it may be easy for you to turn on your own but I can't do that.

I disagree with some things he does and team selction this season but to blame him for everything that has went wrong is just foolish.



 
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