Rangers Banter Archive June 20 2011

 

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20 Jun 2011 23:13:20
5 Players I think Rangers will sign are
DJ Campbell
Gabriel Obertan
Kyle Bartley
Carlos Cuellar
Matthew Upson
what do you think

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Atleast it's all realistic

Monk

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I dont think Matthew Upson or Obertan are realistic, they could get far bigger wages in the EPL......

DJ Campbell is wanted by EPL Clubs as well.......

We simply cannot compeat with their money

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20 Jun 2011 23:11:35
goodwille will sign for rangers hopefully also get cueller and bartly and a new center mid and a new left mid

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What happens if Goodwillie signs and is then found guilty of rape? I know people will come on here and say that's not going to happen but how do they know?

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20 Jun 2011 23:09:15
Anyone getting unpaitent (spelling) with rangers of the lack of signing ?
RobertYrfc

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No. Mainly because the transfer window doesn't open for a couple of weeks.

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Totally agree if they are suppose to be signing around 6/7 players they won't have too much time to gel during pre season.

Monk

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20 Jun 2011 23:09:07
Rangers have made a formal approach for David Goodwillie.

Source:Sky Sports Webpage

However it also says that in March Goodwillie signed a contract extension, so does this mean that he doesn't want a move ? Unbelievable He doesn't/wont and Believable He does/will

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Maybe just trying to get the best possible deal for dundee utd - a club that he possibly feels he owes a lot to ? just a guess. however i do think he will join for the 2m stated

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Were we going for both Goody and Hemed ? I doubt it, Goodwillie should have been No1 target imo, does anyone know if c. Whyte has " capped " the wage structure and this is why Hemed said NO !! and does this limit our options in the market ? getting impatient and I am a anxious wee bear. 54 we want more

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Rangers offered more money than mallorka the boy has obviously got something wrong with his head.

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20 Jun 2011 23:03:24
To every fellow gers fan saying mcfadyen will be signing I really hope he does'nt he's utter p*sh, lazy ball greedy thinks he's better than he is he's past it, we have naismith 10times the player faddy ever was....... *ksd*

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Past it at 28, heard it you numpty.McFadden was good enough for the EPL at 19.Naismith as much as I love the wee guy as a player.Did not get a gig at Arsenal after his trial around the same age.McFadden is the superior player.Better than running with the ball than he is.Better at going past players and finishing.Better at free kicks.Better at setting up goals.And when he was up front alone against France.He ran him self into the ground.And did it lots of other times.When he never got the winner.If Naismith is the better player.Why was he not in the Scotland team at 19?You mean we were bad then to.Even worse than were we are at just now.

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Who this mcfadden could not get game at everton, once mcleish signed him for a championship team who got into epl he was dropped then aswell, levein will not pick him for scotland because he will not run himself into the ground just like naismith does every game he plays for rangers or scotland the only decent goal mcfadden has scored was against us in scottish cup semi I could have saved his shot against france and he didn't run himself into the ground in that game the other 9 players did because the game was played in our half, his goal against some diddy team from eatern europe they all ran out of his way naismith on the other hand scored 1 of the goals of the season against the world champions so stop talking single fish

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McFadden did get a game for Everton, and was a first team player.They sold him for £6.5 million.Hardly the price tag of a guy, who was warming the bench every week.He fought his way into that team.And the year they went down.He only played half a season.Like this year cos of injury.He also scored the winner in the play of final against Holland.And scored against Ukraine who were world cup semi finalists.So what if Naismith scored against Spain.McFadden was injured for that game.Also look were Scotland are in our group.Levein has not always got his team selection right.Like in the baltic and Czeck Rep.McFadden is still clearly one of our best players.The France game he got subbed.Cos he ran his self into the ground that night.

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20 Jun 2011 22:59:28
I think we will get Neil Danns and Goodwillie in the next fortnight
I also would love 2 c Miller a winger, maybe Conway Cuellar Bartley(loan) another centre if Bougherra leaves Forster and a back up left back

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A dont know if anyones stated this yet but not once when referring to rick FOSTER has his name been spelled correctly FORSTER with 2 Rs was the massive p*sh streak who tryed to keep the baw oot the net for the darkside

Its getting annoying gers !!

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20 Jun 2011 22:13:34
Would like to see Rangers add various players to the squad this summer. I know we won it last year with a thredbare squad but that is not likely to happen again. Especially as Celtic are going to continue strengthening. I feel we need 8-10 players coming in, while there are 4 players I would like to see leaving.

I would like to see Davie Weir, Mo Edu and James Beattie leave.

Weir has been a tremendous servant, but I feel it's time for him to hang up his boots, and he should be offered a coaching role. Edu picked himself up toward the end of the season, but he hasn't been good enough in general over the course of his Rangers career. Beattie had a horrible time with injuries last year, and I feel we should be gradually pushing out the older lads in the squad and starting afresh under our new owners and of course the new manager.

I would like to see Bougherra see out his deal then move on.

I feel our best chance in the transfer market is with players near the bottom of the Premiership/ top of the Championship and from other Scottish clubs. Or players who are out of favour at bigger Premiership clubs.

Taking all this into consideration I would like us to attempt to sign the following players:

Carlos Cuellar - £2m - £20k p/w
Kyle Bartley - Loan - £10k p/w (pay half)
Richard Foster - £500k - £5k p/w
Alan Smith - Free - £20k p/w
Chris Eagles - £2.5m - £20k p/w
Craig Gardner - £3m - £25k p/w
Gabriel Obertan - Loan - £20k p/w (pay half)
Craig Conway - Free - £10k p/w
David Goodwillie - £1.5m - £10k p/w
DJ Campbell - £2m - £15k p/w


Any thoughts Ed?

{Ed010's Note -Your list contains many players that most Rangers fans would love to see at Ibrox next season but since you asked for my thoughts, I will give you them, both the good and the bad.

On a positive note, Cuellar, Bartley, Gardner, Conway, Eagles and Goodwillie would enhance our squad, of that I have no doubt. Now for the negative, I would hate for us to sign Foster and Smith as there are better out there. I am undecided if I would like to see Campbell and Obertan but of the two, I would prefer Obertan.

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I don't rate Foster at all, I thought he was very poor on the ball and he was getting an absolute roasting down the wing on numerous occassions from players that really shouldn't have going past anyone. I wouldn't like to see him sign, loan was bad enough.

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Cheers for the feedback Ed! With regard to Smith, I was thinkin he's worth a gamble as a squad option as we need a defensive midfielder. However, what about Hargreaves instead? Think he would come?


{Ed010's Note -I would imagine that money is not a problem for Hargreaves at the moment, given his problems over the last few seasons. He is looking for the opportunity to play and play at the highest level he can. Given his injury problems, most EPL teams will shy away from him, so he is definitely worth a "punt" should Ally see him as enhancing our team. We need to remember that Hargreaves was a £17m player a few years ago and when the possibility exists of attracting that standard, in my opinion, we must go for him. Obviously, any deal would need to reflect his past injury problems.

I also reckon that Hargreaves would come to Ibrox. He would have to consider the fact that we are in the CL qualifiers and with it, the chance of playing in the CL proper.

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I'd love Hargreaves but the bottom line is players will go for cash and even if someone in the Championship comes in for him he'd go there for the cash. Common sense tells you that coming to Rangers would be a great move in terms of CL and trophies but it would be the end of his England career and money is what players go for and we just cant pay it.

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With regards to ricky foster he missed a sitter that van vossen would have been ashamed of in the champions leauge and to be honest when i hear his name is on the team sheet my heart sinks.

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20 Jun 2011 21:28:21
heard from a pal who plays lower level at ibrox ..its rife that mccoist aint happy with the gordon smith situation ...hence no press conference from the team manager on his thoughts? hes off in january irrespective of results

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Is he not on holiday?

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Aye he is on holiday

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20 Jun 2011 22:25:28
Do you think ally should take a punt on humberto suazo from monterey in Mexico beliveable if yes unbelievable if no

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Who???

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20 Jun 2011 21:06:41
ed, can you tell me of any rumours you have heard which have a chance of going through.. after hemed knocking us back im thinking whyte might be all talk, so have you heard anything concrete?


{Ed010's Note -My friend, rumours are rumours and there aren't any varying scales of truthfulness. What you may think is possible, I may think impossible and vice versa. As we speak, the only "rumour" that can now be positively be moved into the "fact" column, is the breaking David Goodwillie story.

I must take issue with you regarding Craig Whyte. I know that I am beating the same drum, time and time again but if Craig Whyte gives Ally McCoist money to buy players, why is it then Whyte's fault, that Tomer Hemed hasn't signed. Although no one should be blamed for it not happening, surely McCoist, is much more culpable than Whyte.

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Perhaps it was because Rangers would not offer him high enough wages, and it's most likely that Whyte would decide what he was to be paid.

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Why give someone who is unproven at this level a better deal than the likes of Naismith, Jelavic, Davis, Whittaker etc. I think both McCoist and Whyte were correct to take their view and not to risk upsetting our current first team. Hemed was obviously not their first choice but someone who looked value on a Bosman, but that changed with his personal terms. I think Rangers will sign two strikers, one to replace Miller and one to replace Beattie / Healy. Goodwillie plus one other, who we probably won't hear of until he signs. Don't let THEM or the media have us unsettled and beaten before we start, keep believing.
BigGordi.

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20 Jun 2011 22:06:19
I think DJ Campbell would be a bargain for 1.25m
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TrueBlue96

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20 Jun 2011 21:26:26
I response to this:

20 Jun 2011 18:29:53
Dyou think ally should take a wee gamble on Nile ranger
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Ranger has had 49 apps and 2 goals. Is this really a gd enough standard for Rangers?

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We shouldnt buy a player just cause his names ranger and you want it on the back of youre top.

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20 Jun 2011 21:20:18
rangers are will sign conway goodwillie danns maybe cuellar bartley or wilson on loan i think thats the players they will get for next season

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That will do for me

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20 Jun 2011 21:11:38
Beram Kayal 20M must have been a Celtic fan, I think he is a good player yes, but he is over-rated he isn't a better player than Steven Davis. Steven Davis hasn't been his best recently and he's still head and shoulders above everyone else. CIS cup final for example after playing a hard game against PSV couple of days before, Davis was all over the pitch scoring goals and winning the ball at crucial times. I should know I watched the final again today on Sky+ lol!

WATP

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I agree with this 100%. What I will add is Davis although a central midfielder, he very rarely gets caught up in silly tussles and has only been booked about twice since he joined Rangers, which is ourtstanding. he is a model pro on and off the pitch. You'd think Celtic fans would hate someone from NI but he gets on with the job without any daft fighting like Diouff done. He is inspirational. I don't know where him and wee Naismith get their enrgy but they seem to have bags of it and seem to get more the more games they play. Davis also never moans about being played out of position. Future Rangers captain in my eyes.

Big John Knox

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20 Jun 2011 20:47:06
In response to the Kayal post - I don't think for a second he is worth anything like £20m but when it is Man City that are sniffing round the price will climb by a couple of million! As for how much is Bougy worth in that case, even forgetting the length of time remaining on his contract, age etc. then I'd still say not as much. Even through blue tinted glasses I have to say I'd rather have Kayal in my team than Bougy. Izaguire is the only other one of that lot I'd have in my team and if Ally can find a couple of gems like them I'll be delighted!

G

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Aye we need to find a few boys like kayal n izaguire, hope they two move on coz they are the only 2 out their side thats good enough to play with us. also if bougy disnae want to play fur us anymare then he can beat it! he thinks he's better than he actually is

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20 Jun 2011 20:44:06
Tottenham are looking to offlaod niko kranjcar.... Don't know if we could afford him but he would be an unbeleivable signing!

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20 Jun 2011 20:16:47
i heard a long time ago that martin bain went behind david murrays back on a number of occasions to try to oust him with his own consortium justbefore rangers won the league in 2008. Murray was furios when he found out. also i have heard some very bad things about him taking the piss out of rangers when it comes to his last deal. Bye to a man who cared more about self preservation than rangers.

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Always thought he looked a shady character. He was only ever in it for himself not for rangers. Hopefully Mr Whyte has weeded out all the rats within our glorious halls and business can be conducted in a more professional and sensible manner. Think Whyte has done thr right thing putting in place measures which ensures rangers isnt brought to its knees again.

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20 Jun 2011 20:16:45
Martin Bain is taking legal action against Rangers over the circumstances surrounding his suspension. Source: Evening Times.
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f*** martin bain he was part of the problem at rangers along with murray and johnson. what kind of rangers man takes legal action against your own club. craig whyte has defended the rangers fans more times in his short spell at club than they three ever have. the futures bright the futures whyte. herte we go to 3 in a row

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Hmmm i get the sentiment but surely you mean here we go 4 in a row?

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20 Jun 2011 20:00:39
20 Jun 2011 18:48:26
Not a rumour but their is Cameras outside Ibrox

It was the BBC reporting on the Bain issue.

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20 Jun 2011 19:26:06
According to reports, Roberto Mancini has identified Celtic's £20 million-rated Israeli midfieler Beram Kayal as his main summer target after finally admitting defeat in his bid to lure Alexis Sanchez to Eastlands

They will be lucky to get 4-6 mill for him if anyone thinks he is worth 20 I want some of what you are smoking

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20 million eh? never played a single champions leauge game in his life*ucks sake!. maurrice ross must be worth AT LEAST 40 million he played 24 games in the champions leauge and won 6 trophys with rangers.

{Ed010's Note -This thread and all other threads have continued long enough and no further contributions will be added. Please note that it is now closed. Thanks Ed10

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20 Jun 2011 19:20:15
that must be why they have put a bid in for cuellar then because he is free. I can read jambo but i think u need a bit of help with the spelling. if your goin to put insults bout reading you should at least use a spell check

The Spaniard found himself out of favour under former Villa gaffer Gerard Houllier, but McLeish has already identified Cuellar as one to keep next season.

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20 Jun 2011 19:18:51
that must be why they have put a bid in for cuellar then because he is free. I can read jambo but i think u need a bit of help with the spelling. if your goin to put insults bout reading you should at least use a spell check

here you how has rangers put a 2 million bid wits yer source bet you cant find one person nuts so get a grip pal

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20 Jun 2011 19:16:11
IM A NEWCASTLE UNITE FAN, FROM NORTHERN IRELAND AND A BIG RANGERS FAN. I WOULD SAY YES AND NO, TO RANGER SIGNING. WE DO WANT TO GET RID OF HIM, BUT IF RANGERS COULD GET A LOAN FOR HIM IT WOULD BE GOOD. HE IS ALSO VERY COCKY GUY, AND DOES MISS SITTERS................ IM SURE ALL THE RANGERS FANS WOULD LOVE TO SEE GOODWILLIE IN THE RANGERS TOP, LETS HOPE, WE CAN SORT A DEAL OUT FOR HIM. WOULD ALSO WELCOME KRIS BOYD BACK, WOULD ANYONE ELSE?

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Aye welcome home boydy now warm up that bench once uv cleaned those toilets.

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20 Jun 2011 19:09:09
ed i'm a bit confused have we put in a 2m bid for obertan or a loan bid or is it all just made up because alot of people and websites are saying alot of different things thanks

{Ed010's Note -Yesterday, the agent of Gabrile Obertan, namely Karim Djaziri, revealed that no club had made an approach to sign Obertan, either on loan or for a fee. As far as I know, that is still the case.

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20 Jun 2011 19:08:40
Rangers considering a move for wes brown if they can't get cuellar back

No chance

can you please elaborate as to why theres no chance on this happening?

davie c

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yeah i will brown on 60k a week u moron its no gona happen simple as that get ur head out the clouds an look to realistic players

Fistly any bit part player leaving man u has got to expect to take a pay cut and brown aint that good that he can demand that big a wage only other team seemingly interested is everton does he want to be mid to bottom table player or succesful one in rangers with a chance to win more trophies so not no chance ya bampot i think you are one with head in clouds and am a person haha

Davie c

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el hadji diouf was on 80k a week at blackburn but we got him. people will come to rangers to win trophies and a chance of champions league football not money


douif was not on 80k mate get facts right it was 40k we wont get him davue c so get real and he has been stated as saying he wants to stay in north east so that rules us out tho we would ave had no chance anyway simple as that take ur head out the clouds a wee diddy player called hemed knocked us back an ur wanting brown
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40k 80k the point i was making was that no 1 would have thought diouf would have been a "realistic" target but we got him. i wouldn't rule out any player coming in on loan or bosman because of there wages so neither should you. your opinion is not fact mate, so what qualifies you to say who we will get. REMEMBER THIS IS A RUMOURS PAGE, YOUR ACTING LIKE 1 OF THEM.

are u kidden diouf was sittting on the bench at blackburn the only way he wasnt realistic was because he was tht bad , all the man had done in his loan spell was wind up scott brown and neil lennon !
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so ur saying a premiership player on 40k a week is a realistic target for rangers. brown has done a lot of sitting on the
bench for man utd but THERES NO CHANCE HE IS A REALISTIC TARGET. make your mind up mate




DIOUF WAS ON 50 GRAND A WEEK N RANGERS PAID 40% OF HIS WAGES

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20 Jun 2011 18:54:04
just been on the man utd site and the gossip on it is wes brown is going to everton. cant see him coming to rangers think he would rather be playing regular footy in epl. also see conway and wilson are on cardiff wanted list.
want to see some new faces, maybe faddy but that just my opinion not a rumour. would also like to see the young centre mid from aberdeen fyvie i think, boy has potential and could get a big fee if developed and sold on down south

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Fulham want him and are willing to pay 1 million for him

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I saw the fulham interest, but he is a young lad and glasgow is a lot closer to his family and friends than england. plus he could make a move to a way bigger club than fulham if he became a regular with us. will win trophies and play in europe with rangers, fulham can offer lower table odd fight against relegation. know i would rather be winning trophies than watching others do it

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20 Jun 2011 18:46:50
After watching Mcleish interview i am now sure he will be in for Mcgregor and will try to use Cuellar as part of the deal. But as always both players would also have to want this.

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20 Jun 2011 18:38:05
If kayal worth £20m then jelavic s worth £40m mcgregor s worth £25m and so on and so on. You get my point

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No, because that's not how it works. Different positions tend to have an effect on value with strikers usually worth more than goalkeepers for example, despite both being important - as do wages and length of contract remaining.

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Give me kayal over jelavic every day of the week.. Deep down yous all know im correct! Oh yeah baby!

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If your saying wage has an effect - remember that kayal is only on £8000 a week. no way is he any where near £20million

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That wasn't the point I was making - all I meant was that wages have an effect. I wasn't saying he was worth £20m. The whole 'if player A is worth £10m then player B must be worth £20m because I think he's twice as good' argument is far too simplistic and makes a mockery of anyone who uses it and claims to know anything about the game.

{Ed010's Note -This is the last post on this subject. Thanks to all who have contributed but the thread is now closed. Cheers Ed10

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20 Jun 2011 18:28:39
how about this squad of shaggers what a dream team for the rangers faithfull sign back lovenkrands legend and cuellar plus gattuso and sign carew never mind that diddy hemed who does he think he is smelly walliper


GK MCGREGOR
LB PAPAC
RB WHITTAKER
CB BOOGY
CB CUELLAR/BOUMSONG
LM LOVENKRANDS
RM WEISS
CM DAVIS
CM GATTUSO
CF JELAVIC
CF CAREW/LAFFERS

what a team that would be keep weissy and diouf also to wind up the green and white shambles

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Why play lovenkrands lm when he is a striker an hated playing there ????

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I think it would be better if it was Goodwillie instead of Carew

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Hahahahaha wtf mate boumsong lovenkrands gattuso why ? Only one a could see him goin for would maybe be gattuso dont care what anybody says theres no a rangers fan thats no wanted to see him back at ibrox the question is is it to late a dont think so think he would do a job in the spl , a dont think were goin to get diouf or wiess we need to be looking at new players fresh faces . 4 in a row is coming ! WATP

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Why would we keep douif he done nothing when he was here

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Here here douf done jack in a rangers jersey nothing hee haw. we need to sign young players and try to bring them on add value n that.

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20 Jun 2011 18:17:36
in regards to this

Martin Bain is taking legal action against Rangers over the circumstances surrounding his suspension. Source: Evening Times

yes this is very much true

did mr bain think that after wat he did he was going to be staying , he disrgarded whytes takeover
and now he's paid the ultimate price

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20 Jun 2011 18:13:49
whatever happened to the intrest in trikovski ?

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20 Jun 2011 18:12:46
vila boss mccleish has apparantly put a bid in for mccgregor, 10 million and cuellar and we have a deal? we get a great defender and we use money to help go for the best quailty of player we can! anyone agrea?

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Couldnt agree more to mant times have we lost out. i love shagger but i love rangers more and 10 mil would be great news for the gers. if we make c/l group stages we would be sitting pretty

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20 Jun 2011 18:02:00
lets get real gers fans put this wes brown rumour to bed he will be going to either sunderland or villa where he will get paid alot more than he would if he came here take ur head out the clouds please some fans are taking the P if they think we ave a chance with brown we ave lost out to clubs like that for vaughan


K

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Why is everybody wantin wes brown at our mighty club he is a poor defender he would look out of place in a sunday pub team

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Completely agree. Just because Craig Whyte has taken over we wont have the budget that Sir David gave us in the 90's. Us fans need to be realistic!

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20 Jun 2011 17:46:07
Jun 2011 22:47:30
Marouane Fellaini has told the club that his desire to play Champions League


Gers to put bid in plus player
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everton bought him for £15mil and he still has 2 years left of contract so i would forget that 1 mate

this is what am talking about ed this shd be put in dodgy rumours its a complete joke an everton will sell him for 20mill so id its cash plus players we would need to sell them the full fecking team

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20 Jun 2011 15:30:17
I would like us to sign:

3 Centre Backs
1 Full Back
1 Centre Midfielder
2 Attacking Midfielders
2 Strikers

I know ten players is a lot, but I expect Weir, Bougherra & Beattie to leave, while I would also get rid of Edu & Broadfoot.

At centre half I would like us to sign CARLOS CUELLAR and JAMES TOMKINS, as well as KYLE BARTLEY on loan.

I would like to see PHIL BARDSLEY come back, this time on a permanent basis. He can play anywhere across the back 4, and also as a defensive midfielder as his use of the ball is very good.

In midfield, KEVIN THOMSON would be my choice. Should never have been allowed to leave in the first place, he wason his way to becoming Rangers captain. Has the dig and composure we lack in the middle when McCulloch doesn't play.

As for attacking midfielders, CRAIG CONWAY would be a steal on a free and can play right or left. As can CHRIS EAGLES. He would be a brilliant signing, is more of an out and out winger with bags of pace who is exciting, always looking to take people on.

Up front DAVID GOODWILLIE and CAMERON JEROME would be great signings.

Any thoughts ed?

{Ed010's Note -I can't disagree with your idea of what areas you feel need strengthening but with regards to the the actual players, I am in agreement with some but not on others. Your central defenders are what I would describe as being strong but also mobile. In my opinion, if Ally pushes the boat out for any player, then James Tomkins must be high on the list. This guy is class and will be a future England centre back, of that I have no doubt. He can also play at right back which may negate the need for Phil Bardsley.

Kevin Thomson is not a player that I would like to see back and I'll leave it at that. Chris Eagle is another player that Ally should try and sign as he would be a terrific addition to our squad, both as an individual but also as a team player. Up front, Goodwillie is looking more and more likely (court case provided) but Cameron Jerome is a non starter. Bolton are rumoured to be be preparing a bid in excess of £5m, a figure that Birmingham have already stated, will not be enough.

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Cant disagree wid be guid but it won ever happen head oot the clouds an behave urself

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Big edu blew hot and cold last season but its no reason for selling him he is a young boy who has plenty to prove but we paid 2 million for him. gone are the days of wasting money mo mo super mo.

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20 Jun 2011 14:48:34
Mcfadden isnt a free agent. Birmingham can activate a 2 year extension to his deal as soon as a club says they are interested which means a fee would be involved. So i would say that deal is off.. if it was ever on in the first place

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Birmingham have to activate this by end of play June 30th or he is free agent. They haven't done this yet, he's on big wages and they will cut their losses. They are playing for time just in case someone comes in for him

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Mcfadden is a free as birmingham never took that option up and if u done a bit of research be4 opening ur big gob u would know that


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Quote from Andy Walker PR and Social Media Manager at Birmingham City Football Club.

"For those asking whether James McFadden has been released, he is technically a free agent on June 30th but talks are still on-going to extend his stay."

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Read the person above you.. AT THE MOMENT he isnt a free agent so I was right so before you open your "big gob" I think u should do some research "k"

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20 Jun 2011 15:38:23
It was Lille who his agent said he wasn't going to on loan.. not Rangers.. I'd be surprised if we got him for 2 million after man utd paid 2.5 for him.

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What wages are we talking for Obertan Ed ? and is this deal possible< I believe he could do a job for us, is the Conway< or Goodwillie deals still in the mix?
Rangers til' I die

{Ed010's Note -I don't know what wages Gabriel Obertan is on but I am as certain, as certain can be, that they will be far in advance of what Rangers can afford or are prepared to pay. With this in mind, a loan deal,with the assistance of Man Utd, is the only option.

Conway, Goodwillie, Cuellar, Bartley or any other player linked to Rangers, no one but Ally McCoist and his staff will know what is happening and when it will happen. We can only be patient and wait and see.

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20 Jun 2011 14:49:34
First guy's the Wes brown thing. This guy is a millionaire and has no need for money. He is also not at the start of his career. I think he may consider rangers (not saying he will sign) as he would have a great opportunity to play in Europe and play for one of the biggest clubs in the world. Now I m not saying that money doesn't motivate him, but he will have other ambitions other than money. Also Kevin Phillips...GTF. He would b another James Beatie...crap. Think the Tomer Hemed guy would have been good tho, pity we missed out. We need 2 CB, 3 Mid's and another striker. and perhaps a cppl of squad players.

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Not been on in a while C-bear how's it going??? Is that you just finished celebrating our 54th title triumph?? lol

Billyboy1!!!!

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How's it going c bear. Airdrie bear

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I'd take Wes Brown at Celtic. Solid performer at Man U all his career, really under praised IMO and never really put a foot wrong bar being second fiddle to the likes of Ferdinand and Vidic.

Don't see him ending up north of the border though. I think a number of EPL clubs are after him, including Everton who're a strong outfit and so he might see a move to Scotland as too big a step down in league standard with good EPL sides after him.

As for Kevin Phillips I keep seeing his name flashing around these boards. I don't know why - good player throughout his career, but not the type of signing the OF should be making IMO.

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C bear is back talking sh#t about wes brown yeah he is gona come here for ambition hahaahaha jog on my friend

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20 Jun 2011 13:55:06
rangers to sign kevin phillips if goodwillie deal doesn't happen


No... and please stick to your own page. Google it, you'll find them in " 2nd in SPL "

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20 Jun 2011 12:52:07
First guy's the Wes brown thing. This guy is a millionaire and has no need for money. He is also not at the start of his career. I think he may consider rangers (not saying he will sign) as he would have a great opportunity to play in Europe and play for one of the biggest clubs in the world. Now I m not saying that money doesn't motivate him, but he will have other ambitions other than money. Also Kevin Phillips...GTF. He would b another James Beatie...crap. Think the Tomer Hemed guy would have been good tho, pity we missed out. We need 2 CB, 3 Mid's and another striker. and perhaps a cppl of squad players.

C-bear85

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20 Jun 2011 12:51:08
i think we should go for dj campbell ok hes 28 but hes really good beleivable for yes and unbelievable for no we shudnt get him

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He has interest from EPL clubs so it will not happen.Decent player though he is sharp and has pace.

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20 Jun 2011 12:23:03
what do you think of the argentinian striker daniel villalva, 5f1, he is only 18 and has broken into the river plate team and was the youngest player to score for river.
chiz

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He is ok if u want to sign him wont happen as we wont get a work permit for him FACT

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20 Jun 2011 12:17:37
i feel that john fleck should be givin another chance at rangers to prove himself as at the age of 17 he had to much pressure put on him, and was meant to be the next big thing but he was only 17, since then he hasent really got into the rangers squad, and now he is 19 he might be able to handle the pressure alot better.
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The problem with Fleck as i have said before is the guy is not a left winger..Sir walter persisted in playing him in left mid. move him into center mid and wel, l have some player. charlie adams was in the same positition and look at him now... worth £10--£12 million. imagine the future with Ness and Fleck at the heart of the Ibrox engine room.. This is what Murray park is supposed to be all about...producing the future stars.. come on Ally give Flecky a chance....sausage bear

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Sorry sausage bear can't agree i would play ness any day but beside davis, fleck is 2 slow his decision making is very poor and I think his attitude held him back last year the boy has alot to learn, ness came into team and would not have lost his chance if it wasn't for injury and if u listen to senior pro's in team they tell u ness has the ability and his attitude is spot on i hope fleck proves me wrong as i would like more boys coming through the ranks but i can't see it.

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Aye flecks a bit slow but so is adam and imo we blew it with adam mckormack and burke lets stop throwing talent away

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Flecks never a centre mid in a million years. his best position is as the second striker or in the hole behing the striker

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20 Jun 2011 11:37:33
Total bulls... Were no signing montero looking to bring in the Bosmans first then spend money pending on goodwillie court case. Willie 67 .
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just wondering, was it ally or craig white that told you this


So your name is "Willie 67" and you expect us to believe you are a gers fan?

Taxi.

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20 Jun 2011 11:37:33
reason hemed joined mallorca was the weather and to play aginst madrid and barca because rangers wont be

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So what you're saying is he just wants to play 4 games a season & sunbathe outwith these 4 games ?

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Why would he come here to play in the rain an have 4 games against celtic ?????

think be4 u speak

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So he could win championship again and play in the championd leauge. what a tosser this time next year he could have been playing in the epl.

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20 Jun 2011 11:04:11
Rangers scouts are currently looking at Hamal Shukup from Indian League.

He is a Devil in Defense and wears Blue Suede Boots.

(We're not really but now I have post this message the Celtic scouts will be all over you tube for videos of him so they can add him to their list of possible targets, meaning we have a clear run at signing our real signing targets) I honestly think the celtic fans come on to our site and copy what we say and paste it on their own site.

BTW Hamal does a mean Elvis impersonation!!!

Bazza Bear

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No they wont ya nugget

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20 Jun 2011 10:55:45
A wouldn't mind seeing snodgrass and dorrans at ibrox tho there price tag is an issue! To good players plus rangers fans be good to see them with the blue jerseys on! R all fellow bears happy if we get goodwillie though

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20 Jun 2011 10:51:37
Check out the interview with whyte! WATP

scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/sport/Interview-Craig-Whyte-owner-of.6787475.jp

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20 Jun 2011 09:01:30
9/10 rumours on here are absolute nonsesense, ill stick to the rangers website as thts the only thruthfull stuff you will hear

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Then you'll get your news about 2 days late

Took them about 36hrs to take Hemed story down.

The Official site is another embarrassment to our Club , full of quotes from the Day befores papers, Not even direct quotes from our own Staff.

Hopefully one of the things our new owner will sort out and Quick
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Just ignore the Timposters and their stupid rumours they are forever putting on here, as if they are Bears
BF

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I agree< it makes sense to listen to truths, I wonder how many wee mhischief mhakers we have LOl. Keep it real, but some of it is fun. Rangers till I die

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Dont come on here and say most rumours are nonsense.. when you cant even spell the word ya numpty! haha

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20 Jun 2011 09:00:19
If Rangers were to get Plasil it would be a massive signing, he might not be a familiar name to some Rangers fans but he is a big player with a big reputation. Really great player, I don't think he will come to Rangers but because he was mentioned i'm giving my opinon on him!

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20 Jun 2011 08:58:15
can people stop postin stuff about mcfadden , he has made him self clear the only team he will sign for is celtic and he said, that he woulndnt play for rangers if it was the only club in the world.

wes brown is a no go for 1 he is to expensive and 2 everton , sunderland , bolton are after him , i cant see him comin to rangers for a pay cut when these teams offer the same

marouane fellani has been linked to spain and italy . i doubt he will give up big money to come to ranges , plus he wont go for less than10. so that rules us out ,

and conway seems to be head down south cause rangers aint offerin him a contract

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I grew up with James McFadden.He never said that to me.He said he would like to play for both halfs of the auld firm one day.He has a lot of relations that are Rangers fans.And the other half is Celtic.Sure he would rather play for Celtic if it was us or them, that goes with out saying.But if they did not want him.And we made a deal for him.I am sure he would come up and play for us, and give it his all.He was never a bitter kind of guy.

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20 Jun 2011 08:44:17
i think rangers should be tryin to grasp a few players from blackpool they are only prem club in england that offer there player less than we do ,

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Good shout mate.. we should go for Stephen Crainey!

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He is gash and Wigan are going to sign him to stay in the EPL

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20 Jun 2011 07:56:58
I know La Liga is far superior to the SPL but i really can't understand why Hemed chose Real Mallorca, especially after reading that he wanted to play for Rangers. Mallorca survived relegation this year by a single point & they will probably be fighting for survival next season but hey, if that's the road he wants to travel, good luck to him, personally i would rather be challenging for trophies year in & year out & playing in Europe, than wondering if my team would stay up.

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Its beacuse he wanted a solid wage packet , but rangers offered him a contracr with apperance bonce goal bonces , and this aint the old days , these boys want solid deals

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Its money thats driving him to go there... its such a shame that we have had a chance to sign a talent like this, who wanted to come to ibrox and yet they were unwilling to cough up enough cash to bring him in. i truley believe he would have been banging in goals for fun in scotland and its a shame weve missed out on him

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Yes the the difference between
8 grand a week and reputed 20 grand
a week big decision to make

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I've heard he's only getting 7 grand at Mallorca (who aren't exactly made of money at the moment). Rangers must've offered him something completely insulting for him not to have signed.

Aside from that I know where I'd rather work if I was in Israel looking to go abroad. The choice between Mallorca and Glasgow is a no brainer. Even if Mallorca are only offering a couple of grand more, you can't blame it entirely on the money. There're other things at play - league standard, climate, best social environment for raising family etc.

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It wasnt 20k it was double what gers offered deal with it an move on he has any1 who isnt a gers fans would make the same decision

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Hemed has said in the Daily Record i believe that the financial package at rangers was superior and so it wasn't for the money that he has moved there!

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Sunday mail quotes rangers offer was better than mallorkas.

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20 Jun 2011 04:58:04
I have it on good authority that the McCoist is to step up his efforts in signing Macedonian striker Trochowski(spelling). This is from the same source who told me nearly 3 weeks ago that Conway is due at Murray park for signing talks. I can't that this 100% accurate but its from a very reliable source....
Also, I posted on here the other month about a rumour that Rangers are attempting to sign Javad Nekounam of Osasuna, has anyone any info on this rumour? I remember the guy playing against the Gers and thought he was a quality midfielder. Would be a good signing if the rumour is true

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Nekounam signed a further 2 year contract with Osasuna in May so you can score this off your list

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20 Jun 2011 02:06:13
Ed what do you think of James Tomkins of West Ham United as a central defensive option? I personally think he is a great young centre half. He is good in the air and isn't afraid to go long if need be. However he is also comfortable with the ball at his feet and uses it well, stepping out from the back quite often in the games I've seen him play. Could be a future England international. With West Ham being relegated I can't imagine he would cost much more than £2million and the benefit of CL experience would be huge for his career at a young age. He would be one we could make a huge profit from a few years down the line (although I hate to say it, this is the realistic approach we must accept as we are a selling club nowadays).

{Ed010's Note -Realistically, we are now a selling club due to the financial situation in Scottish football. In a macabre way, I quite like that because it brings a little added excitement to each transfer window. I felt a certian pride in our club when we sold the likes of Hutton, Cuellar and Boumsong for huge profits.

James Tomkins is, as you say comfortable with the ball at his feet but he is also a player who can fill in at right back. He done it on many occasions for West Ham. Tomkins has represented England at every level from U14 to U21 and he is likely to get picked for England any time soon. The problem that I forsee is that he will not be one of West Ham's big earners, so the club chairman and/or Sam Allardyce, might not want to sell him at all.

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James Tomkins is average at best, believe I have had a season ticket at Upton park the last 2 years and watched him week in week out. He's not that good and gets caught out for pace constantly. He'd do a bit better up here as he's playing against a lesser level of player. He's not the answer at centre back for us.

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20 Jun 2011 01:30:31
jefferson montero to rangers..are you high? he was looked at by real and man u not long ago, get a grip

u get a grip it was freddy montero madrid were looking at ;) !

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20 Jun 2011 00:43:53
A lot of people speculate as to our squad as a whole for next year, and I feel its always a good headache for a manager to have at least two players (three in certain areas) for each position. Have a solid first XI in mind, then a steady and dependable replacement when required. I think a squad of 24-26 players is ideal. As for areas we most need to strengthen, I would say right through the spine of the team, starting from the central defensive area, through central midfield and up front, as well as a winger who can play either side. I would like to see the following leave: bougherra, weir, broadfoot, beattie & edu. And I feel a 4-3-3 formation would suit us best. So taking all this into consideration, a squad of players that I would ne very happy with and that is quite realistic for 2011/12 would be:

Goalkeepers

1. McGregor
25. Alexander
31. Adam

Defenders

2. Whittaker
3. Bardsley - £2m
4. Cuellar - £2m
5. Papac
12. Foster - £500k
15. Tomkins - £2m
21. Bartley - Loan
27. Cole

Central Midfielders

6. McCulloch
8. Davis
10. Fleck
15. Ness
16. Ferguson - £1m
19. Danns - Free
20. Hutton

Attacking Midfielders/ Wingers

7. Eagles - £3m
14. Naismith
17. Conway - Free
24. Wylde

Strikers

9. Miller - £500k
11. Lafferty
18. Jelavic
23. Goodwillie - £2m


{Ed010's Note -In my opinion a well constructed review of exactly why and where our squad requires strengthening. I am in total agreement about one particular player in your proposed squad and that is James Tomkins. I have watched a lot of West Ham's games on the TV and he comes across as a big steady centre back. He is also very young and shows huge potential and has represented England at every level up to and including U21. Tomkins is the type of player that we could buy and if need be, sell on for a large profit.

I thought that I would throw a little spanner in the works as it were, just in the interest of debate. Unquestionably Steven Naismith was our best player for most of last season and merits his place in any squad. I am interested in your views and anyone else's view, about giving Naismith the chance to play along side Nikica Jelavic. He played as a striker with Kilmarnock and I really do feel that he would be a perfect foil for Jelavic.

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Cheers for your response Ed. I feel the squad I proposed has a good mix of youth and experience and also has potential to play various systems when required.

As for your point about Naismith, I agree he would be a good foil for Jelavic, as in terms of a forwards attributes he is quick, works hard, and links play well. However I feel these are qualities Goodwillie also possesses and he could learn a lot from playing with Jela if we sign him. The main reason I would keep Naisy playing deeper is that I feel when he is floating between the oppositions midfield and defence he is unplayable, which coincidentally is also where I believe young John Fleck is at his best. Naisy is more of a creator in my opinion but is equally capable of going beyond the forwards, which will happen at various times as Jelavic and Goodie would take turns of dropping off to link the play.

{Ed010's Note -I think that if Naismith was played as a striker, then him and Goodwillie, would be very similar players in that regard. I also believe that Goodwillie would be a good signing for us but potentially Ally could save £2m, by moving Naismith forward and use the money saved on Goodwillie, to buy another player in another area.

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James Tomkins is not the answer for centre back watched him home and away for the last 2 years with West Ham. He gets out of position constantly.

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Wont happen an u ave spent to much money the 12 mill we ave includes wages

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20 Jun 2011 00:43:13
Neuchatel Xamax want Bougherra, Aston Villa want McGregor, Gordon Smiths priority before new signings is to tie down McGregor, Davis & Whittaker on long term deals then sign up bosmans, then we will start bidding for players WATP

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20 Jun 2011 00:35:51
Craig Whyte said it's disappointing to
Miss out on Hemed but he wasn't the top striking target (Goodwillie) I think :D, our scouts have also been at the euro u21s for young talents.
With heart and voice!

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20 Jun 2011 00:03:12
reading the post earlier McGregor to Villa for £6m, 4 years ago Sunderland paid £9m for the then Scotland no1 after maybe 1 good season with Hearts, so why would we sell the current no1 for only £6m!!!!!!!!!!!!! more realistically if Eck does come in for him he'll not want to take the p1ss and will offer close to the £9m Gordon cost, also I don't think Eck would be too difficult to work with if we tried to get a few fringe players either on loan or transfers, he would obviously talk up the club to any prospective signings

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20 Jun 2011 00:10:17
Good news, if true Mcleish interested in Wes Brown, makes Cuellar more likely.

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19 Jun 2011 23:41:30
If this Eremenko thing is true which I doubt the Danns deal won't happen, it's a hard one. Danns though is free and Eremenko would have to be paid for, they are similar players and similar age. I would prefer Danns though. Watp.

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Danns could'nt lace Eremenko's boots ya tosser!!

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Danns could be a holding midfielder.And Eremenko could play make.Meaning Davis could play right side of midfield more.The two players would make a difference.And give us plenty of options to think about.Davis out there would mean that, Naismith could play up font.

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19 Jun 2011 23:06:24
Mcgregor ain't leaving 4 anything less than £15m. The plans whyte has for rangers r awsome.

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Yes i agree why would we want to get rid of our best players when we are trying to progress forward as a club

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Pray share Mr Whyte's awesome plans with us ! talk is they are based on the plans that almost bankrupted Leeds Utd and saw them end up in the English 3rd tier !

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His plans are not based on the Leeds pish. Read his interviews before talking crap.

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19 Jun 2011 22:52:04
18 Jun 2011 17:32:42
Rangers intrested in striker Michael misfud

doesnt misfud plays for celtic? the swarthy looking greek woman? i believe they just gave him a very lucrative 3 year deal having set the spl alight with his 2 goals.

Michael Mifsud is a 30 year old maltese journeyman, if ally was looking at a player who has chosen la liga over the spl then clearly he is looking in the right places, and clearly not at this guy

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19 Jun 2011 22:51:43
Marouane Fellaini has told the club that his desire to play Champions League


Gers to put bid in plus player
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everton bought him for £15mil and he still has 2 years left of contract so i would forget that 1 mate
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arsenal would be a good move for him and they could do with a player his size

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Get a grip ya buffoon! Doubt we will even qualify for the champs league! Away and play champ manager!

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