Rangers Banter Archive January 20 2015

20 Jan 2015 22:06:47
Bears did any of youse see the supporter on the news channel yesterday standing giving the board pelters outside the stadium, brilliant, the bar stewards must have got a fright, as the coppers came over and moved the supporter on, the supporter eventually got back in his car and I heard his passenger say are you all right (Ian) ime fine was the reply good on you mate.

21 Jan 2015 08:01:48
He was on here yesterday telling people he was going to do it so he's obviously kept his word,pitty those who he directed the abuse at can't do the same!
Being vocal loud and often is what they need to hear until they are pig sick of it. Whoever you are mate good effort and keep it up.

Realranger7 I seen his post saying he was up for it, and I was hoping the guy would have responded to my post, but he let them them hear him eh. brilliant,

20 Jan 2015 19:22:55
Just noticed Nigel Adkins is out of work, he would do for me

JG

20 Jan 2015 20:21:10
Is Bernard bresslaw still about fit right in

Think rangers keep the job inhouse to save money fu@@ knows who will get it maybe durie, we won't bring in anybody to save wages

20 Jan 2015 21:31:58
Mibee Alan Titchmarsh at least when he stands down in a couple of months he'll enjoy his gardening duties

20 Jan 2015 17:21:27
Thank goodness C Green didn't back Dave king ( no surprise there). I personally woudnt want him on our side, he is part of the reason we are in this mess. Says the current board are doing a good job although he then says that he left the club with £18 000000 in the bank. You couldn't make it up.

Vegas2410. I never seen the interview, but he was probably in getting a nose job, though it would have been grown bigger as he spoke, I wonder if anybody that seen the interview saw his nose grown, as he spoke.

20 Jan 2015 15:16:13
Scott Murdoch in the ET is sounding very bullish.

"You don't have to be a mathematician to work out that they will get more than the 50 per cent of the vote that they need. Ashley and the Easdales are history. There is no way the EGM will fail. "

I really hope this is true, just wouldn't put anything past the in control at the moment though. Hope for the best but be prepared for the worst.

No you don't have to be a mathematician but you'd sure as hell have to have information on which shareholders will vote for whom.

If King and the 3 Bears hold 36% of the vote, where is the certainty of the remaining 15% we need? I cannot understand why the current shareholders wouldn't back the fans and that includes Board members as the support would flock back to Ibrox, income stream would flow and their investment in the club increase in value. Am I missing something?

Cullin72 it could be 2 close to call too many shares changing hands

Bigwull, I certainly would not get my hopes up too high. I personally don't like to hear this boombastic ' we will definitely win etc'. Quietly confident, but what dirty aces can the rats pull out of their sleeves before the EGM has to be called.

Cuillin72 they have pulled there last rabbit out the hat a long time ago, they will be gone, that's my view on it, history.

20 Jan 2015 13:04:47
What about Alex Ferguson as next manager for 2 / 3 seasons
If DK takes over could this be an option

He said in his autobiography he never would, because of the way his wife was treated by fans.

20 Jan 2015 14:48:34
We got rid of Ferguson because he was rotten.Remember the way he ran with his elbows sticking out?He was one of the worst strikers I've EVER seen.He can play this wife card forever,but he knows he wasn't good enough.It was different days then,fans never verbally abused women,sour grapes I think.

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Was it not his brother who said it. As far as I can remember Sir A F has never mentioned Rangers or there fans in a bad way.

We are obviously never going to get ferguson but a canny believe gkk says he doesn't want him cause he ran way his elbows sticking out

20 Jan 2015 18:58:35
His managerial talent is not in question pal,he is a brilliant manager.I was replying to @1 comment that he would not return due to ill treatment of his wife by fans,a popular misconception as to why he left (in my opinion).I say he was rotten as a player,and the way he ran never helped matters!Read my first post again.I never mentioned him as a manager,I'd love to have him.

20 Jan 2015 09:30:31
So Sandy Easedale increases his shares and voting powers to 26%, evidence that this board and Ashley are not going anywhere. I'm beginning to fear the worst for our club, I feel the EGM will not be granted or if it does go ahead the current board and Ashley will still have majority of votes keeping them at the club. Kenny McDowall also resigning, say what you like about his managerial skills he is a Rangers man with the club at heart.

WHAT NEXT?????

20 Jan 2015 09:41:58
King has allegedly called them" dead men walking"it looks like its going to be won or lost by a baw hair.

What I don't understand is who would sell their shares for a Penny each to Ronnie and Reggie sleazdale when they could have got way much more on the open market and more to the point WHY.

looks like some of the faceless regime backers are beginning to panic.

i think if King gets his way we should brace ourselves for some real shocks when he gets to look under the hood of Rangers

20 Jan 2015 09:59:12
hi toon fan here I just hope for rangers sake ashley don't get his own way .the blokes a fat cockney *****

Lochaber - Easdale did not buy 1m shares @ 1p each!!

He bought 1m 1p ordinary shares, there is a huge difference

JG

20 Jan 2015 10:38:52
I hope King Park etc try and snap up another 5 percent between them.I don't trust most of these institutional investors.I think they might be afraid to vote against Ashley when it comes to it for fear of retribution from him.I read he has been known to bury people who go up against him in these circumstances.

OP?

King stated yesterday that he has done his homework regarding shareholders voting and is of the opinion that he would win the vote. I think that is why 'The Bored' is trying to get DK's request vetoed by Stock Exchange under unfit to govern rules. However DK has countered by stating that he has the information to persuade the Stock Exchange; SPF and The SFA on previous ongoings at Rangers.

Go I don't think it matters what the easdales or fat mike does, mr king has over 52p/c that leaves 48p/c. Of the 48p/c there are 18p/c sitting dormant at ibrox for next share holding, so from what I see the board and Ashley combined have max 30p/c, they can't buy more than they have, maybe they can buy peoples shares, but if mr king has 52p/c it's game shot and match to mr king and the three bears, now let's see under the bun net, and get a look at that retail contract.

20 Jan 2015 11:57:30
JG:This is your dept mate,do you know if 100 per cent of the shares are in circulation?If not, do you know the percentage unaccounted for?Cheers.

FFS, has he got an undertakers business as well? The guy has his fingers in every pie going.

20 Jan 2015 13:05:44
Just read on tv that easedale bought these shares from a company that he holds proxy for so it does not increase his overall vote.
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It is going to be interesting to see just who is prepared to put up the big money for share trading over the next 39 days till the EGM.
King and Bears have an advantage over ashley he cannot directly buy any more shares they can!
Surely the wise thing to do at the most important stage in our history (this vote is the end game) would be to offer whatever any of the institutional investors want, they are in it for money only. River and Mercantile announced yesterday they were not happy with current running of things leading to vast undervaluing of Rangers FC so buy them out at 50p a share if that is what t take.
King has already dealt with both River & Mercantile plus Artemis.
These 2 institutional investors still hold 5. 77 (R&M) and 5. 26 (Artemis).
King having already dealt with both in an amicable and shrewd business move, should I think pull out the stops to offer them whatever it takes to sell this 11. 03% share holding it GUARANTEES him 45% of all shares teamed with the 3 Bears meaning only 6% needed which taking into account Rangers minded 'people' own well over 10% GUARANTEES them a victory in the EGM.
My personal feeling is that Dave King bought EXACTLY the amount of shares he has calculated that he needed with the current voting indications (please mind that the people voting on the King/3 Bears side are very clear votes due to hatred of current board) it is the only thing that makes sense as to why he bought that percentage from R&M and Artemis.
Regardless I think that this vote is so massive to save our club from a future or leasing Ibrox from Ashley which is his long term plan, that I think King should remove any doubts by buying the remaining shares from these two investors, they would sell for 50p a share and Rangers would be a King and Bears led boardroom!
Remember this the Blue Knights pissed about with their offer which allowed Green in the door please do not make the same mistake to save a few pounds Mr King

RTID BOARD OUT ASHLEY TOTAL BOYCOTT

i am george

Gkk
what I do know is

There are 81. 4M shares issued in RIFC
There are 17. 5% not in public hands
The total votes counted (for, against and not used) for each resolution at the recent AGM was 63.8m or 79% of the total 81. 4M
The combined total for the main shareholders who have declared over 3% is 77. 51%
Based on the total votes of the AGM then the votes of 40% of all shareholders should carry a resolution at an EGM
King has 14. 57%
Three bears have 19. 49%
Easdale has proxy for 26%
Ashley has 8. 92%

What I don’t know is

Where are the 17. 5% not in public hands and can they be used at an EGM
Where are the other 3. 5% of shares (79% AGM votes plus 17. 5% not in public hands is only 96. 5%)
Will 3 bears vote with King at the EGM
Will the required 5% of other shareholders vote with King and the 3 bears at the EGM

Hope that helps some M8
JG

20 Jan 2015 17:01:12
JG :Cheers mate,clears a bit up for me.
@9 Just noticed that pal,superb.

Gkk looking at it again, the 3. 5% was probably shares that were being held by brokers at the time of the AGM and could be bought up since then, Magath for example just bought 1% and think rst and first bought some more shares lately

If we consider that, then I reckon 41. 75% of all shareholders votes will swing the EGM

JG

I am George, I think mr king bought some shares from r, m and arm, because both these shareholder would be thinking that once mr king gets control the share price will eventually rise, so both sh mentioned will still see a pay of when and if they eventually sell.

Gkk I don't imagine it will be close, ime predicting more of a land slide, and the board know it, maybe the reason for sleds dale buying more shares today was so as he will get a bigger pay day when he sells up, I also know that with 26p/c he could block a lot of votes in future that's why we should boycott his taxi and bus service, the only way to get them out is to boycott there places, that includes sports direct, we should call it sports undirected lol.

Other george

Yes amigo you are correct I think that explains why the percentages were so exact they have agree a seal in 'principle' so King knows what his total support is to win EGM and saving him using valuable investment in Rangers money and as you say increasing the share value for R&M and Artemis.

My figures on logical support we have a minimum of 55% and the fact Scott Murdoch and King are SO confident tells me that is the case. Why else would the board be trying everything they can to block the EGM.

BOARD OUT ASHLEY TOTAL BOYCOTT

i am george

20 Jan 2015 08:24:49
Just read Q&A with KJ of daily record with Robert Saver. Really believe if we get rid of this current board this guy will join up with 3bears and dave king.

Really do hope so - xmas would come early.

Bearatheart - I don't think Sarver does joining up, his offer was for 100% and that's probably the best thing that could happen to us

One guy owns the lot, clean slate and start rebuilding but the shareholders not the board! (aye that includes 3b and king) will never accept his offer)

JG

Jg. Complete agreement from this wee guy lol.

Jg I should let you I was in agreement with mr Sarver wanting to own the lot, I don't want him owning the lot as I would prefer rangers supporters to run the show, rangers support being mr king and the three bears, as this makes more sense to me, guts willing to invest, but more so guys we can trust IMHO.

20 Jan 2015 06:40:09
Memaself

You are 100% correct on the share issue the whole Green "No none likes us we don't care" was a very clever marketing trick. give the people what they want to hear and a wee cup of hot tea in the queue of money. sorry fans you have lining up to swallow any PR type stunt.

What you are so so wrong about is understanding the emotion and LOVE that are involved in this particular "business model". Just because Rangers fans LOVE their club so much that they were prepared to support the team and the "business" investing their hard earned wages does not make them the fools you are implying. It just means that as in life LOVE is blind. I am a business person with years of experience but because I LOVE Rangers FC I was prepared to gamble on Green being honest. It has in hindsight (LOVE has no hindsight) become obvious NOW (easy for you to jump on the "you blind persons" bandwagon) that every person involved with my beloved club since whyte deal till current board of selfminded charlatans have been cr**ks and everyone has been played by using the heart strings of a people who LOVE their club.

I think certain clever know it alls should try to understand the emotions and passion involved in a WAY OF LIFE it is to be a Glasgow Rangers or any big city football fanatic, before you try to belittle them and their apparent naivity

BOARD OUT ASHLEY BOYCOTT

RTID (soon at the rate my heart is being pained;-i am george

20 Jan 2015 08:25:32
Agree to a point George but love aside, the evidence of how dodgy these folk were was presented on several occasions by many. Some of our own, fans of other clubs (Scottish and English clubs), Legendary Rangers players, and former employees of the club; not to mention the odd media outlet.
Although we were duped in many ways we can't now pretend that we had no clue. The truth is we rounded on anyone that dared say anything negative about Rangers and our own defiance has come back to bite us on the erse. We could've starved them out years ago but we chose to ignore the difficult truth.

{Ed001's Note - you are right there, I remember getting loads of abuse for mentioning Green's record at Sheffield United. No one wanted to hear it, they just wanted to be told he was great or they refused to listen.}

We suffer from a serial saviour complex. Every sugar daddy that comes along we think he's the messiah and they all turn out to be only very naughty boys.

I felt the same way about Green at the time, Ashley, and I definitely feel the same way about King, I have no idea why the fans are falling over themselves for him - he devalued the club by calling for a boycott, then snapped up shares at a cheaper price - that is sleazy behaviour if you ask me, and I don't care if it's for a good cause, a sleaze is a sleaze and disqualifies himself.

Collectively we need to accept that we need to build from the bottom up again. Once the sharks have bled every penny of love from us, they'll move on to better pastures, and we will be left to build a team from the bottom. I for one can't wait. Celtic can wait.

Totally agree with the three posts and Ed001 comments. The most salient, imo, being letting the heart rule the head as many of us have been guilty of that. Sad days and a rocky time ahead.

I totally agree the heart can rule the head in football, most supporters just want to go to the game, watch a decent team challenging for cups & leagues.
I just feel rangers need someone stable in charge, and to be fair to Ashley love him or hate him, he is that, no one would loan rangers £10m without collateral. Newcastle are now a stable profit making club albeit without any aspirations of winning anything.
The thing about king, he came out last year talking about throwing £ms into players etc that surely must ring alarm bells again.

Ed between yourself telling us about charlieboys, and George telling us there grand plans, I paid attention and have done my thing (abandon)and that's how it will be for me until we get the great stadium robbery to come to an end.

20 Jan 2015 00:49:38
so kenny is resigned but working notice same as mccoist will the board now trying go out and pull a fast one and get a good manager who the fans will back and who shareholders will be happy with or will end up with durie no disrepect to him the board have started trying to comfuse the fans already please for sake off the future of our team to the fans and shareholders please do not be fooled by this mob in charge