Rangers Banter Archive February 20 2012

20 Feb 2012 23:28:20
Is it true rangers supporters are boycotting all away games

If this is true, those supporters have the same morals as Craig Whyte.

If rangers fans decide not to go to away games and instead give the money the will save to rangers in some way ie buy club merchandise etc I think this is a great idea. No other club seems bothered about saving our club so why should we line thier coffers?

Why would any other club be bothered about saving your club. They have their own problems and will be looking to pay their way. After all you lot did not care about them money due to Hearts, Dundee Utd and Dunfermline. That is a quarter of the league due money from you that would go a long way for them.

Ian(For every £1 Celtic spend Rangers will pay their creditors 10p)

I think Rangers fans should be more worried about fans of the other SPL clubs boycotting Ibrox , it is your only source of income from now on , so diddums , get over yourselves , Rangers are in the mire because of their own financial mis-management , spending money yous didn't have on big name players (while all the other teams played by the rules) , a form of "Financial Doping" which you lot all bought into , lapping it up , bragging and gloating , not stopping to think where all the money was coming from , only now when your luck has ran out , you think other clubs should feel sorry for yous and "Bail" yous out , Mr Murray showed Airdrie no mercy and put them into liquidation , quite honestly you have a cheek , looking for sympathy , you should be treated the same as every other team if you break the rules , the same punishment should apply .

To the above poster, don't dare trash, celtic have a cheek! yous did the same thing back in the 90‘s hense why yous went to the wall and didn't get bought until a few hours before your full team became painter and decorators! We are innocent until proven guilty! which won't happen, we will come back stronger and from our legend “We dont do walking“

Sorry to burst your bubble but Celtic never went into administration.

The Bank of Scotland informed Celtic that it was calling in the receivers on Thursday 3 March 1994 as a result of exceeding a £5 million overdraft. However, expatriate businessman Fergus McCann wrested control of the club, and ousted the family dynasties which had controlled Celtic since its foundation. According to media reports, McCann took over the club minutes before it was to be declared bankrupt.

In order to alleviate the club's considerable financial debt, McCann reconstituted the then privately owned Celtic Football & Athletic Company Limited as a public limited company - Celtic PLC - resulting in one of the most successful stock market flotations in British financial history. The share issue generated £14 million and saw the redevelopment of Celtic Park into a 60,832 all-seater stadium. During this period, Lou Macari was sacked by McCann and replaced by former Celtic player Tommy Burns, who restored a more attacking style of play.


Ian(For every £1 Celtic spend Rangers will pay 10p to their creditors)

To the above poster , are you still in denial ? come off it mate , you are in the serious financial bother , FACT , whether or not yous "Win" the big tax case yous have lived beyond your means for years , to float David Murrays' over inflated EGO , he tried to "Buy" the European Cup , all the other clubs have played by the rules (those who havent have been punished accordingly , ie Motherwell , Dundee , Livingston , Hamilton Accies) , do you honestly think we should all feel sorry for yous and bail yous out ? your arrogance and self importance is sickening mate , yes Celtic did nearly go to the wall in 1994 , but it was a totally different set of circumstances , not to do with cheating the tax man to sign players we couldnt afford , Fergus McCann saved Celtic with the help of the Celtic fans , with no help from Rangers or any other club , the SFA , or political intervention , Celtic are run in a totally different way from Rangers and will never be allowed to get into financial strife again , i personally expect yous to be "helped" out and get off lightly , that is why Scottish Football is a laughing stock as is Scottish society in general .

20 Feb 2012 23:21:26
the off-field problems are a smoke screen for the inept job our manager is doing. he is tactically naive, the football is boring and out of all competitions by beginning of february. i can't understand all the support and chants for ally cause for me he ain't manager material.i will guarantee that we finish third come the end of the season.

Ally out end of season mccall in

The end of rangers a f/@kin smoke screen

Ally out McCall in,Ally out Butcher in,some people talk some sh@t ? The shi@ we're in at the minute Billy Graham couldn't Manage us,Calm your self--- WATP---

20 Feb 2012 21:17:10
have to say lookin at everything overall all these guys mentioned but its the same thing holding us bak this disgrace that is is the big tax case debacle, hmrc say they will appeal apeal appeal if gers win wonder if thats still the case , i think it will be craig whyte who owns rangers no matter wot hes got all the aces whether he sells of starts runnin the club properly us the fans cant really do anything till we all stand together like barca n hamburg single ownership cant work after this , thats my opinion

Not the only thing holding you back. Did you not hear the songs on Saturday?

20 Feb 2012 21:03:06
what is the more realistic target for rangers shall we try our best to stay 2nd above motherwell or shall we try and win every remaining game and reduce the point gap below 10 points and make THEM feel like s**t

Eh obviously we would rather tryin win every game n ofthe happens we will obviously be second. Bit of a daft post there buddy

Wouldnt cause me a jot of concern if we won by 30 or 3 points, i dont buy into stripping titles or devalued titles.
False logic, you cant change history and you cant undo a point deduction.
Nevis

We are not going to finish less than 10 points behind hem. More like 30 points they things re going

By the time you play ICT , Celtic will be 23 points ahead . You can't even score at home . How on earth can you get within 10 points ? Celtic are Champions Elect ( I predict they will run out winners by 30+ points )

More likely to lose the league by 30 points!

Ha,ha.thats it.

Both won't happen I'm afraid, 3rd place for rangers

That's a silly question. If you did the later, you'd achieve the former.

Are you serious? I think you will be doing well to win a game the rest of the season!
You couldn't beat killie on sat with a full house (for 70mins anyway) so how do you expect your team to get up for an away game at it?

Wake up and smell the Coffee, Rangers are in real danger of going like Third Lanark or Gretna, its a fight for survival, the club could be over a hundred million in debt,it will take full houses and wages like Motherwell pay for the next twenty years to get back to square one

Celtic has clearly won the league by default, and don't even bother hittin me with pash, and the end of the day yous would have a fight on your hands, cos we were startin to pick ourselves back up then the admin bomshell dropped into ibrox, thers is lot of false hope within our club now, there will be a big talk to the guys that we NEED to finish 2nd and that we don't have to care about septic.

The only person who is really happy with what is happening at Rangers is-- Neil Lennon, WHY because if he hadn't won the league this season he'd have been SACKED and this is the only why he was ever going to win it.

Picking ourselves back up? Dundee utd pumped us out the Scottish cup a couple of weeks ago.

I think you'll be doing wekll jsut to finish the season.

20 Feb 2012 20:30:37
this guy probably read the article on bbcsport regarding fiorentina when they went into administration and relegated to the serieC !! And as usual posted a lot of p***

Mark ;)

20 Feb 2012 19:35:58
Ed001's Note - isn't the whole point that there is no proof of these letters? Because if they truly existed, and HMRC had proof of their existence, this case would have been done and dusted by now surely?}

the letters DO exist, this is the reason rangers are in court. they have been found guilty, accepted their guilt and are disputing the fines and interest. this is what seems to go over peoples' heads, who cares if other clubs have used EBT's, they were legal up until 2010 and HMRC cannot chase clubs for money before it became illegal. rangers problem is that they absolved players and directors of any payment of tax in this scheme.

this IS NOT a test case so they can go after EPL clubs, it's merely a fore-runner for catching those who abused the EBT scheme, and not every club who has used EBT's has abused it in the same way as rangers


taco

A think you should change your name tae taxo , tedbear

Have you nothing better to do with your life than spend it trying to prove people wrong.... Does it give you a stiffy! PaulRFC

They have not been found guilty of anything at present. The case is not to decide the amount, but to decide if they are guilty. Suggest you go back to your own page and spout your crap to fellow minded fuds

Tedbear, i don't give bigots the time of day, so your post (as always) will be ignored.

paulrfc (in administration), it does give me a stiffy.....does that make you happy?

all i can say to the nameless poster is, research what constitutes a first-tier tribunal, then an Upper Tribunal, and see if you still think your argument stands up


taco

Ho Taco...where are you getting your info from?...tell me its not from that Taxcase website some of you mhanks have been running for the last two years..ha ha..honestly my dug knows more than you do...lolz

He's right y'know. rangers have accepted guilt and are disputing the fines and penalties.if they get a result there will still be a bill of at best 7m

How can you answer someone's posts - then say your ignoring it ? You are a toolbox! PaulRFC

Wit taxo , am a bigot cause a called you taxo , away n lie doon , tedbear

Can't understand how it not clear. Rangers have lost the big tax case. They are appealling this decision through a first tier tribunal. The EBTs used failed to convince that they were anything else than a tax dodge. It is best hope that some compromise figure can be reached through this tribunal as opposed to the sum HMRC are claiming. This payback is what will then need to be factored in to the future operational cost of running of RFC. That is why it is dificult to fix any sale of the club until tribunal has settled. Don't think the press or majority of fans seem to have really grasped this yet.

It doesn't matter where i get my info from, as like everything else that you don't like to hear, you pass off as timmy lies, so it would serve no purpose informing you.

i will say though, that i don't get my information from websites or newspapers, although RTC is usually bang on the money


taco

Don't talk pash, how do you know rangers have lost the case eh? Go for a walk mate cos you clearly need fresh air! nobody knows, only judges themselves! so i advise everybody to stop posting rangers lost the tax case once again cos NOBODY knows! ed? is it a good sign or bad sign for the fact that how long this tax case has been goin on for this long? could it be the fact that HMRC don't have enough evidence for it or somethin? {Ed001's Note - impossible to say unless you are involved in the case. It is all speculation that is left to the rest of us.}

Paulrfc (in administration) i was just reminding him that bigots will be ignored. there were a couple of his posts on the 18th about Neil Lennon, that unsurprisingly have been deleted, why he is still able to post? you'd have to ask the ed on that


taco

For crying out loud!
the court case is to establish how much rangers have to pay...end of!

surely to god at least one of you bears out there understands these tribunals? and if you don't understand how they work, then stop saying they haven't lost their case


taco

20 Feb 2012 17:15:41
Right fellow bears lets have some reallistic suggestions off who might take the club off the sh@te knight, there must be someone out there that can see when the tax case etc are sorted out that the gers are a good prospect if run correctly...billy the bear...

A consortium with souness heading it would be interesting.... But honestly mate anyone but shyte will be a starting point for us. PaulRFC

Paul RFC - just what do you Rangers supporters not get. Anyone but Whyte. So you'd accept someone more dodgy that Whyte? It is exactly this sort of attitude that allowed Whyte to take the absolute p1ss.

Rangers supporters are hillarious. A consortium headed by Souness. WHY?

Celtic supporters are hilarious, always on this Rangers page... WHY ?

20 Feb 2012 15:56:27
Can anyone please tell me why the heck mccoist plays papac at CM sometimes, totally baffling!

GovanEastLoyal

No idea, but he got it all wrong, what is our problem with playing players out of position ?

Who cares, sasa is gone in 11 weeks and the football is insignificant at the moment, we need to focus on damage limitation and coming out the other side stronger!*ksd*

20 Feb 2012 15:35:05
whyte put 250k of our money into another club but doesnt even pay his tax or let us get any players in this man is a disscrace to rangers football club

20 Feb 2012 14:43:40
i think walter is on his way back from the states to help ally through this "walter and allys blue and white army"

If walter was 2 come back 2 RANGERS I would like 2 see him as a director if new owners took over, I know there would be a clamour for john greig 2 be back on board but I would rather have Sandy Jardine, people speak highly of Sandy within IBROX, I think if these 2 were 2 be on the board things would be far more open to the fans as they would relate 2 us better
NTYABOW

Oh dear.

Good shout there mate.every club should do more to communicate with the fans,more so our clubs.and i dont just mean in difficult times.artybhoy

Artybhoy bang on you see I always said that martin bain was only ever in the papers if something good was happening at IBROX,on the sandy jardine bit I know that when our fans were getting battered from pillar 2 post he was the only 1 who stuck up for us, perma tan crawled under the nearest table & also heard the other day sandy asked Mr Whyte a few quetions on behalf of the staff that Mr lower than a snakes baws couldn't answer in fact if there was any1 I would lke 2 be left in a room with the s**tehawk it would be sandy
NTYABOW

20 Feb 2012 14:28:18
rangers are recruiting caterers/kitchen staff on gumtree website. would they do this if cut backs are supposed to be happening.

Possibly as it is FREE to advertise on gumtree.

Ian(For every £1 Celtic spend Rangers will pay 10p to their creditors)

Maybe needing someone who knows how to cook the books,lol

Have you ever sold anything on gumtree? It takes an age to get delisted sometimes months! Maybe this is the case with the job vacancies you mention

Gumtree lolol well well youve come a long way rangers lol

Azure are hired to do the food so they employe ppl in there company
andy gray

Yes this is correct azure run catering at ibrox and was one of david murrays companys about 10 years ago

20 Feb 2012 13:50:44
Great picture of Grantown Bears leaving a calling card at Craig Whyte's house.

https://twitter.com/#!/screebs69/status/171174103196237824/photo/1

Looks like the self proclaimed billionaire is however hiding out in London (don't blame him.) Any Belgravia bears inspired by Grantown may be interested in:
All public access info ed. {Ed001's Note - then other people can look it up for themselves, but I am not going to put it up here.}

20 Feb 2012 13:13:43
I for one am totally sick of all the stick Broadfoot takes on here and basically anywhere Rangers are mentioned. Yes he has his limits but he is by no way the worst player in the world, always gives 100% and in my opinion should be one of the first names on the teamsheet.


Magoo

Has his moments personally rate him on par with goian as hes nothing special back four should be : whitaker perry bocanegra papac imo.

Sold himself for the Killie goal Magoo !!!

Broadfoot wouldnt be in my first 11 in my wee girls team.

He doesnt look good if low confidence but short memories he was an ever present in our 10 men behind ball walter tactic to uefa final we were boring but got results and i remember he played his part .... i always support ANYONE in the teams colours from ginger mo to amo to clubfoot as they are rangers players simplzzzz

He's better than Wallace.
Not that it says much, but he is.
BR

Exactly be it Healy, Kerkar or the cookie monster (unrealistic target i know) i will support them if they play for Rangers
EKger

20 Feb 2012 13:12:01
richard gough u were a good sevant to rangers but dont slag the supporters 4 leaving 10 minutes before times up u only show when u get paid tv appearance money and sit snd get treated like a king why some show up 3 hours before kick of in freezing and wet conditions every week and pay £800 for 2 season tickets to vent our anger and disgust at the way whyte and murray robbed our club.

20 Feb 2012 12:49:25
It shows how bad the SPL is when only 4 players in the Scotland play in it.

Yes because england rape us of our players

Off the top off my head i could name 3 player who should be in the squad
McKay-smith Russell and templeton

They don't rape us, the players go down to England willingly, for a better league and more money........ the players choice !

It's the players choice, but the fee thy pay for the players up here is laughable!

20 Feb 2012 12:19:24
1994-ceptic have a match attendance of 10,000 as they plunge into administration(their season average 22,759) on saturday ibrox was a sellout as we don't do walking away watp we will follow on

They were not in administration check before you print

Most of un walked away rather early on Saturday was mostly killie fans left the last 15 mins

Celtic never went into administration

i pro jordan

Sorry to burst your bubble but Celtic never went into administration.

The Bank of Scotland informed Celtic that it was calling in the receivers on Thursday 3 March 1994 as a result of exceeding a £5 million overdraft. However, expatriate businessman Fergus McCann wrested control of the club, and ousted the family dynasties which had controlled Celtic since its foundation. According to media reports, McCann took over the club minutes before it was to be declared bankrupt.

In order to alleviate the club's considerable financial debt, McCann reconstituted the then privately owned Celtic Football & Athletic Company Limited as a public limited company - Celtic PLC - resulting in one of the most successful stock market flotations in British financial history. The share issue generated £14 million and saw the redevelopment of Celtic Park into a 60,832 all-seater stadium. During this period, Lou Macari was sacked by McCann and replaced by former Celtic player Tommy Burns, who restored a more attacking style of play.


Ian(For every £1 Celtic spend Rangers will pay 10p to their creditors) {Ed001's Note - if your sign off continues to contain words that could cause legal issues I will delete everything you post. I am not going to sit here and continue to waste my time editing out your libellous and defamatory and quite frankly unfunny rubbish.}

The real impact of administration has not even begun to kick in so can start to see attendances dropping in the very near future.
If you think you'll see anywhere near a full house in the coming weeks then you are sadly mistaken.

On a side note, is administration what it takes for rangers to get a full house, why not a full house for every home game?

Come on Ed a bit touchy there a polite please do not add that last statement would have been enough.

Ian(For every £1 Celtic spend Rangers will pay 10p to their creditors) {Ed001's Note - nothing touchy about it, you shouldn't have been so stupid as to make accusations on a public website.}

Admin in this case is a red herring. The poster's stats about your crowd are the point. He was referring to heading towards admin, as you lot well know but jumped on the wrong interpretation, as per.
Do you want to comment on the attendance stats?
Iam Legend

Was that all they attendances that were 50k but the board claimed it was 25k haha. 25k tickets at £10 pop and your board were robbing 1/4 m every home game and use lot have the cheek to complain about us. double standards springs to mind

20 Feb 2012 12:02:57
in the face of adversity we have stood tall. I must admit i have never been prouder to be a rangers fan than i was on saturday..absolutly fantastic support for the team. Long may it continue. As for the result, dissapointing, but never mind. i would also like to say to any1 who is on here saying ally aint up to the job..shut up. He is 1 of us, hurting just as much as me and u and he has come out fighting so get behind him and show him the respect he deserves. I'm glad he's the man in our corner fighting for the cause and guiding us through the worst time in our clubs history. if you dont want to pull in the same direction as every1 else do us a favour and f@@k off we dont need voices of discontent, we need voices of SUPPORT.

You were proud on saturday? That you were outplayed by a team lying 6th in the division? That your sectarian bile could be heard from the stands? Or that your inept manager chose to take off your only fit, recognised striker to bring on a 21year old winger?

DazzaBhoy

First class
although a disappointing season on the pitch ally's dignified and fighting spirit is second to none and i will support him and the team whenever they take to the field.

A take it yoy didnae hear your mob singin thei pro ira bile ghen,probably no way yer selective hearin.

Can someone translate the above post for me ?

Swings and trundabouts mate,we are no angels,but 4 minutes into yesterdays game and all the IRA songs started.So have a wee think before you start coming on hear,on your high horse and pointin the finger.Get a grip and take the green tinted specs off.

Its ria songs we sing.Rangers In Adminastration.artybhoy

No point in telling them they only hear want they want,you should know that by now,no admin,graig whyte,garlar07

20 Feb 2012 11:19:10
Dont know how you folks are feeeling about how the administration guys have conducted things so far

I personnally feel theyve been pretty good in terms of the volume and quantity of information they are providing the fans.


Anyone have any thoughts?

EVERYTHING to date Whyte has planned do you think he would nominate an administrator that he isnt linked to? They are being paid serious money and will cover his ass note they havnt exactly been demanding sight of the 24m plus 15m at begin season plus jelly money AND NOT TO MENTION 9m paye/ni THESE ARE MASSIVE AMOUNTS TO DISSAPEAR a serious administrator would be calling in police

Nice to hear the truth instead of spin from CW. I just want them to get on with it and bring our club out of this horrible mess. New owner/s is also needed as CW has almost certainly burned his bridges with the fans and SPL , SFA etc. If he doesnt go soon I think hell be pushed anyway. CheltBlue

So far I think they are doing their job. They will be under immense scrutiny from the other side waiting to pounce on the slightest thing. eg Lennon's Twitter comments about the press conference.
The media coverage is full blown and sotires abound about the money, Iam sure they will be thorough.
With that atmosphere no pressure then.
Iam Legend

20 Feb 2012 10:55:18
ED, do you know if Ally is going to appeal
Sasa Papac's red card? {Ed001's Note - not as far as I am aware.}

Why it was a shocker of a tackle,straight red all day long

20 Feb 2012 10:49:27
ed this is totally hypothetical but if ally was to totally lose the plot n the time comes to think of a managerial change, does craig whyte still have the power to make this decision. i firmly believe ally is the best man atm to be in charge but im curious to what input cw would have if this situation ever came about.
j1985 {Ed001's Note - no, he has no power in the company right now, the administrators are running it.}

He has power he knows where the money is

20 Feb 2012 09:00:13
Rangers will win the HMRC case, but HMRC will appeal and will lose. Rangers will NOT have to pay the "monies due" because they aren't due and the EBT's were legal until December 2010. Major clubs around the UK are watching this case and will be relieved when it goes in favour of Rangers. The £18mil used to pay off Llyods was money taken from the sales of the Tickets for the next 4 years, CW hasn't spent a penny of his own money because he has no need to. The tax case decision will benefit Rangers and CW. CW will be forced to sell, which is what he is wanting to happen because he was only ever planning a "hit and run" profit scheme at Rangers. He will make approx £10-20 million in a deal to sell Rangers onto another, more affluent owner who will financially secure Rangers long term.

By the end of spring, Rangers will be owned by someone else and will have won their tax case, the summer transfer window will be a flurry with Rangers activity and a new sense of purpose and drive will be installed, still with Ally at the helm.

Jamie

Did Carlsberg write that for you................or hans christian anderson?

So many experts on here, seem to know everything. Time will tell.

Delusion = A false belief strongly held in spite of invalidating evidence.

:D actually feel sorry for you if you beleive that. DELUDED

No, my brain wrote that for me because its COMMON SENSE, why people are jumping on the MSM fueled info band wagon surprises me no end. CW knows exactly what he is doing, he is wanting to be portrayed in a "bad light" so that Rangers fans demand he sells...which is what he is relying on. He doesn't want Rangers long term...he cant finance it long term. He already has a buyer, the administrators were chosen by him because they are part of his plan. HMRC wont win, which is obvious too...Rangers are the test case and they wont falter because what they did was perfectly legal. Its the cost of running at a loss that caught out SDM and will catch out CW, that's why its gone into admin, not this bloody Tax Case...

Everyone needs to wake up and turn off the bloody TV and stop reading the tabloids...its all total dis-info!

Jamie

So why did murray not sell it on to one of these people for a quick buck? 10-20 mill.

It was a tax case that brought on administration. The non payment of PAYE & VAT to the sum of £9 million.

Whyte is not wanting administration he wants liquidation all debt is then wiped out he gets Ibroke for his outstanding money due to him that he supposedly used to pay Lloyds. He then re-establishes Rangers as Glasgow Rangers and sells this debt free team on for a huge profit. You lose your history keep your stadium and name sort off and he walks away a rich man.

Ian(For every £1 Celtic spend Rangers will pay 10p to their creditors)

Ian(For every £1 Dermott Demond gives you to spend....)
Get off the valium.
Iam Legend

Of course he doent want liquidation, no businessman wants liquidation. he wants the administrators "who he chose" and were with him at the beginning of the take over to restructure the debt, which they will have far more ability to do that CW. SDM didnt put the club into admin because of his reputation as a businessman, not to mention his knighthood.

Nothing has changed since CW's take over regarding the tax issue so putting it into admin today as opposed to 9 months ago makes no sense, its not the tax issue (45mil or 9mil) that has forced this issue. The 9mil could still have been paid because the fiscal year isn't up yet.

CW put it into admin for the simple fact that the administrators could restructure and have the leverage to do so. Its shrewd but its his way of clearing debt that he cant afford to do, whilst lining up a club that will be debt free. This is why there is so much interest now. Buyers know that the administrators will restructure and it will become a viable option. CW just wants to make a quick buck.

I'd suspect this is what the previous board were hinting at...don't appoint CW because all he wants to do is make quick cash...buy to sell type of investment.

And to those of you who say i am deluded, well i ask you....

Am i deluded for forming my own opinion or are you deluded by being forced to believe others who have done nothing but paint Rangers in a bad light for the past year?

We have all seen it, The BBC, the Daily Record...

If anybody is deluded its the ones who cant see the trees for the forest...

My god your kidding right ? the bbc and record were proved 100% right . fab1

They WERE not proven right you t*t, the DR and BBC are constantly belittling Rangers and their fans. They both have an agenda against Rangers. All they did was bring to light what any person with half a brain could see...

Which is of course what i wrote above...

As has been revealed by the MSM today, ticketus money used to pay off bank...like i said had happened...

Yawn

Jamie

20 Feb 2012 08:31:04
More of a request than a rumour, think the ads on the site could be a bit more sensitive to the current situation going on at Ibrox. Why for the past while have hmrc & now more recently now duff & phelts lol.

Just putting it out there as its quite annoying to be honest :) {Ed001's Note - it is because that is what is being discussed, the ads are Google's Adsense, they just look at what is mentioned on the page.}

I keep getting Asian dating sites... am I missing something? :) CheltBlue {Ed001's Note - maybe your missus should be checking out what sites you visit.....}

Lucky you! I keep getting "date a granny"!! I'm only fecking 31!!
Dmrangers {Ed001's Note - you never know your luck, she might take her teeth out for you.....}

20 Feb 2012 05:25:40
Is ally going to appeal sasa papac's red card?

Can you afford to go that? Rory rovers88

Why would he? It was a red card offence, studs showing at speed.

Why, Papac will not play again unless he agrees not to be paid.

20 Feb 2012 01:49:27
questions,questions,questions
Why have the rangers been chosen as test case for this?is whyte a tim?if we had advantage economically were the refs not helping us?if gers closed I would not support another team.is there a conspiracy?oh dear,I sound like a ghreener.wasp.co down

Yip you do. Maybe we were just unlucky or an easy option for the case. Come on Whyte a tim? What does that have to do with anything? Was basile boli..jorg albertz..ivan gennaro gattuso out to ruin us?

Your right m8 every word you said is true when we are down every body wants to put the boot in we will be back watp

Bye then you wont be missed,dont expect this to get posted ed ,but what are your thoughts on the offensive singing at the weekend

Dannybhoy {Ed001's Note - my thoughts? My thoughts are that football has a problem, not just Rangers and Celtic. All around the world it is the same, go to almost any Man Utd match and you will hear chants about Munich and airplanes from the opposition. Liverpool fans face songs and chants about Hillsborough and Heysels. Bradford fans tell me similar stories. Football fans seem to have forgotten how to support their own team and spend their time trying to abuse and offend the opposition. When I was a kid, we would gather round trying to come up with new songs for our favourite players, these days people spend their time trying to come up with something nasty for opposition players. I really don't understand it, if abusing the opposition won things, Galatasaray would be the greatest team in history. What bothers the players I know, is when the fans are singing and cheering and egging on the opposition, they believe it really does give them a lift when the crowd are behind them. None of them like a nasty atmosphere, they find it affects concentration as they are always expecting something to kick off.}

20 Feb 2012 00:31:41
ed do you know where that timalloy has went hes not posted any of his crap teasers for quite a while
AndyBear98 {Ed001's Note - he has posted a few of his usual bad jokes, but they had already been posted just before him, so I deleted them rather than have repeats. But he is still about, he has posted a few things on Celtic too.}

19 Feb 2012 23:48:16
sad week in our history but we will be back and i would urge every rangers man to remember that times of prosperity make you fortunate times of adversity make you GREAT and we will be.

billyboy
WATP