Rangers Banter Archive August 20 2020

 

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20 Aug 2020 22:31:57
Lundstram could be the midfield general we have all been craving. Do you lads think there is substance to this or paper talk? Would love it to be true but I can't see it to be honest!



20 Aug 2020 23:26:58
We would need to shift another good few out the door and quickly to try and match wage expectation. He’s exactly the type of player we should be going for, assuming there is any truth in it.



21 Aug 2020 01:48:16
would be a terrific signing if true. one of shef utds best players last season.



21 Aug 2020 08:29:13
I wonder if John Fleck would come back to Rangers?



21 Aug 2020 09:32:39
I thought about Fleck, Doiger. I think it would be a great move for both parties as he is definitely quality and has proved how effective he can be in the English top flight.



21 Aug 2020 10:11:59
Sticking point I'd imagine would be fee and wages Seeker.



21 Aug 2020 10:33:06
We need to find backup for Aribo and quickly and we also need a right winger and a quality box to box midfield player. The names mentioned would be perfect but I would imagine that we need to sell one of our better players to generate the cash. For me I just wish that someone would make an offer for Kamara so we can bring in one of the players mentioned above!



21 Aug 2020 11:48:49
Sheffield valued fleck 20 million when arsenal were looking. So let’s not worry about that one.



21 Aug 2020 18:00:52
I don't think his wages are as high as people think. Was there not a report last season of him only on about 10k a week? (Only! ) . Transfer fee different story I guess.



20 Aug 2020 21:27:22
If social media pictures of the Turkish v Chinese Castore tops are to be believed there is a sh! *t storm coming their way
Can't believe we've managed to allow this to happen! (again if true )
Turkish ones look like market fakes absolute shocking.



21 Aug 2020 08:23:25
The Chinese tops are the player quality one's due for release later this year! Some where released early by mistake! All explained by castore! Happy?



21 Aug 2020 11:08:45
For all the constant moaners regarding the slagging of castore regarding pro rangers shirts being made in china, ie. player quality shirts and replic rangers shirts which are replica shirts made in turkey, what's the big hullabaloo?
Tom beahon did state from the beginning that there would be a pro top for sale to our suppor
ters to purchase, if they wanted! Its a storm in a tea cup over nothing here!



21 Aug 2020 12:00:16
More S--t stirring only IMHO SGL, there's been a few posts recently trying to discredit what we're doing.



20 Aug 2020 20:22:41
How many more players do we think we need before the window closed?



20 Aug 2020 20:40:41
Bigrabj I’d say 3 if we keep all our best players, the number would go up if we sell any . Also the 3 would be better than what we have in starting 11.



20 Aug 2020 20:47:31
I'd take 2, a tough box to box mid and an out and out right winger. Docherty and Candaeis types but better.



20 Aug 2020 20:48:57
I would say 2 first team starters minimum bigrabj. I think a class right winger and a powerful,
physical midfielder!



20 Aug 2020 21:05:08
I'd actually agree with sgl but would add that the midfielder powerful box to box type.



20 Aug 2020 21:26:46
If only we had an Ian Durrant in the academy.



20 Aug 2020 22:03:41
Not much cover at rb either. With flannigan and polster being released and sold respectively we only have young Nathan Paterson as cover should tav get injured.



20 Aug 2020 23:37:20
Jack can cover right back.



20 Aug 2020 23:41:19
Broxi Bear and Paterson will be ready. How come we whine when youngsters aren't getting a game then panic when one is very close to the first team?



21 Aug 2020 08:04:09
3 players needed. A RWB, creative CM and a RW.



21 Aug 2020 08:17:45
Covenanter I’ve never once “whined” about youngsters not getting a chance. I just would have preferred to see McCrorie in and around the first team squad rather than Paterson. Don’t get me wrong, on the few occasions I’ve seen Paterson play he’s done ok but in a season where we can’t afford to slip up and give the other half of the city bragging rights we need more accomplished players than a rarely tested teen and felt McCrorie was more accomplished plus I think he played rb while on loan at Portsmouth so could have potentially saved us splashing out on a back up if that’s what the manager deems is needed.



21 Aug 2020 10:39:02
I would agree that we need to sign three but we also need to get rid of Barker and hope for a decent offer for Kamara. We need a quality box to box midfield player with a bit of dig, a quality right winger and cover for Aribo. The team that ended the game against Livingston falls well short of what we will need to win the league and bringing in a quality winger and a quality box to box midfield player would make a massive difference. That said, going with Roofe on the right, Kent on the left and Morelos and Itten through the middle against teams like Kilmarnock while Aribo is injured would also work for me. I just don't believe that Arfield and Barker bring anything to the team.



20 Aug 2020 20:17:02
Heard a few people saying Wilshere was playing in the bounce game against Plymouth. Does anyone know what the actual team was?



20 Aug 2020 20:27:17
Certainly wasnt wilshire playing anyway. He was in St Andrews with West Ham.



20 Aug 2020 18:44:09
Reading a lot of Moans and groans on. It just here but other sites about Sg selling the players that didn't get games. The majority of fans I know understood we had to get rid of a lot of dead wood. That's exactly what the gaffer is doing. Freeing up wages. Now we all know that the squad will be very bare if he parts with jones and Murphy as well but I'm sure he's aware of this and will
Look to utilise the wages saved. Let's just trust in the manager. There's nothing any of us can do about it anyway. 🤷‍♂️🔵⚪️🔴.



20 Aug 2020 19:42:43
Correct👍.



20 Aug 2020 19:51:20
Exactly idiots all over the place thinking these players are good enough when SG and the coaches see them in training every day it’s just the way it goes these days tho SG has got a few things wrong in his time.



20 Aug 2020 20:02:28
Some good points however if McCrorie wasn’t good enough then why didn’t we insist that he was bought now and not next year? Gerrard said that neither him or Docherty would go back out on loan but then puts McCrorie out on loan. It seems that we have bent over backwards to accommodate Aberdeen who would never do the same for us.



20 Aug 2020 20:17:33
Think they can't afford the fee this year but at least he strengthens them against everyone but us for this year too.



20 Aug 2020 23:31:55
It’s a win win for all parties, we shift a player who wasn’t going to get many first team minutes, guaranteed fee and the lad wanted to remain in Scotland. I hope he excels this season and goes on to have a great career.



21 Aug 2020 08:06:24
Scotty

We will no doubt be paying 1/ 2 his wages this season so once you take that off the fee it’s not really a good deal for us. Don’t know why we are accommodating them in such a deal.



21 Aug 2020 10:42:15
I have no problem with us getting rid of players that are not good enough but we need to be adding players like Barker to that list and we need to be bringing in quality players or promoting some of our quality youngsters irrespective of age and give them the chance. I have to believe that are better players in the under 20's than Barker.



Premier League Season Review

20 Aug 2020 18:38:29
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Premier League Season Review



20 Aug 2020 17:57:30
We need a leader on the pitch - someone who can motivate the players on the pitch and drive them forward - Lundstrum fits that bill - do hope we go get him.



20 Aug 2020 20:53:45
id be ecstatic with lundstrum. Watched a lot of Sheffield United last season and he is exactly what we are missing. Works really hard and good at breaking forward. If he moves I am sure he will have lots of good options in epl though so think its unlikely.



20 Aug 2020 16:14:22
What about Russian striker Hujinika Bollocov?



20 Aug 2020 17:28:07
What about him? We won’t sign another striker I don’t think.



20 Aug 2020 17:39:56
Striker and well known nut thief!



20 Aug 2020 17:55:04
Is he a right baller or a left baller.



20 Aug 2020 18:07:15
Takes a few reads KJ but I got it eventually 🤣.



20 Aug 2020 18:14:59
Av heard he’s definitely cummin 🙈.



20 Aug 2020 18:28:40
😂😂 read it to quick.



20 Aug 2020 19:03:44
You dived in again KJA9🙈👍.



20 Aug 2020 22:47:45
Raymgers asks the question is the player Right or Left footed, therein lies the problem in professional football these days, players should be trained to play the ball with both feet, it would also allow more positional flexibility.



20 Aug 2020 16:03:14
I've got no doubt gerrard is clearing the decks as he's desperate to land andreas skov olsen, which would be a crackin' signing! He's a game changer and the right winger of the calibre we require, to help us wrestle the title away from the ANTHILL MOB👍.



20 Aug 2020 17:09:26
Hope you’re right sgl.



20 Aug 2020 17:18:41
No doubt he's clearing the decks of dead wood players who aren't going to play and combined are picking up a lot of wages and hopefully is going to bring in a right winger of first team qaulity because wee still haven't ever replaced candeias and a midfielder who has goals in him skov olsen would be qaulity no doubt and someone mentioned on rumours page of croatian midfielder mijo caktas he certainly scores from midfield all wishful thinking at the moment tho.



20 Aug 2020 17:28:50
How do you know he is doing that because he is desperate to land Olsen?



20 Aug 2020 17:50:57
Because i heard he's to get rid of the players he deems as dead wood to bring in another couple of quality signings that gerrard reckons needs strengthened!



20 Aug 2020 18:53:10
Stevie Gerrard loyal was it the youth coach who told you about dead wood? or one of your usual sources or the voices in your head?



20 Aug 2020 20:11:51
The voices in my head why 🤔I thought you would have known that or are you not as bright ⛅ as you make out pal🤔.



20 Aug 2020 21:06:43
Well its obvious of course.



20 Aug 2020 16:01:23
So swap deal Morelos for jack Wiltshire and 15 million.



20 Aug 2020 16:38:47
Buy Wiltshire and get a free set of crutches.



20 Aug 2020 17:41:59
Medical team will hoping this is true. They'll be on overtime for almost the entire season.

We can't afford to gamble on injury prone players this season of all seasons.



20 Aug 2020 20:04:54
SGL and others on here our players are not dead wood, they are just not the standard to take us forward.
Two lads have left our club this week and have shown nothing but respect for our great club, manager and fans.
How about we show them some respect.
There words about us the fans and the fact they chose not to run off at the mouth about our club shows class.
Some on here should try it.



20 Aug 2020 20:52:32
Agreed John 👍.



20 Aug 2020 14:35:01
Anyone know if we have any sell on clauses for mcrorie and the doc? On another note with mcrorie being on loan for 1st year are the sheep paying all his wages? Remember they are paying reduced salaries at the moment.



20 Aug 2020 14:59:25
It’s a great bgate! How can they sign players who are on full pay and the rest of the squad are on 80% wages.



20 Aug 2020 15:00:21
I believe we have 20% sell on clauses for both players.
Not see anything re who’s paying mccrorie wages. I assume it will be split.



20 Aug 2020 15:57:43
Nobody knows except those who were party to the transfers. Everything else is a guess.



20 Aug 2020 16:08:41
Correct, but ex players and media tend to pick up info.



20 Aug 2020 16:45:07
Id be amazed if wee don't have sell on fee plus first dibs on ferguson.



20 Aug 2020 18:56:04
So not only do we sell players for monkey nuts we even subsidise their wages? To the mutton shatters of all teams!



20 Aug 2020 20:09:41
£350k for McCrorie less our split of a years wages and it’s hardly much of a good deal for us.



20 Aug 2020 20:14:00
Its a shame that kingwalter wasting all those monkey 🐵 nuts, when you need feeding 🤣😂.



20 Aug 2020 13:37:54
Chaps,

I am finding this ridiculious the money we sell players for. I have been a season ticket holder for 40 years and so is my son got one and his son. Never have I seen this shambles before.
I am also really annoyed with Alfredo, was reading an article Lille are not interested anymore and that simply because they see he is absolutley rotten at the moment, infact has been all 2020. We need to flog him now are his value will diminish quicker than Black Friday.
We need to balance books and i am worried we may have to sell Kent after Alfredo's value been diminished since returning to football. He looks unfit, shocking touch and bad attitude.
Whats your thoughts?



20 Aug 2020 14:02:16
Imo Gerrard wanted to improve the attack and have more options.
Roofe and Itten woulda joined regardless of Morelos situation.



20 Aug 2020 14:08:49
Only problem seems to be

Is that no firm bid has came in

Or no fine bus that rangers wanted to accept

So if there has been a firm bid and we have turned it down then we can’t need the money as badly as some seem to think

But your right his form not been great at all 2020

And right now that’s putting a lot of suitors off I think
He may end up staying until end of season as he will really need to push himself if he really doesn’t want a big money move to the premiership

Without playing well no one will buy

It’s really down to him to sharpen up and start playing his football

Past performances have now been forgotten and the C.V. has put somethings into perspective
For clubs not willing to waste money

It’s all on Alfredo to deliver what we believe he can do on his game

And your right about doc to cheap in my opinion and McCrorie

What we can we do though, it’s down to board

Just want the team and manger to learn from seasons past and and start winning games

Some said we can’t demand every game

I say why not?

If we perform to our highest expectations and Maher gives out the proper instructions and sets up the team to suit different opponents weaknesses, we have the team to win games

Time to deliver.



20 Aug 2020 14:10:43
Selling him is the best way forward, some on here seem to like him more than the club. Very concerning as he never delivers on the big league occasions, hopefully the new strikers step up.



20 Aug 2020 14:56:38
Hahahaha! So what form were Lille bidding for Morelos on?
Some posters talk absolute nonsense on here. 😂😂😂.



20 Aug 2020 15:11:17
Correct mr potato head.



20 Aug 2020 15:13:18
A bit like your self mr potatoehead

You can confirm there was a firm bid and we knocked it back the 15-17million that was quoted in newspapers

You can absolutely guarantee that can you

Me thinks now

Who’s the one talking nonsense now

Have a post of your own buddy instead of trying to ridicule other people makes you look weak and pathetic

Grow up a bit.



20 Aug 2020 15:32:38
Lille never bid though spud nut👍.



20 Aug 2020 16:10:01
Coldo yes they did or Sg is a liar, he said the Lille bid was no where near rangers value of the player before the Aberdeen game.



20 Aug 2020 16:49:15
according to the lille chairman 16million was bid for alfie and knocked back, so according to a few on here he must be talking bollocks as well



20 Aug 2020 17:01:53
Coldo Lille president has just announced rangers have rejected 16 million bid for Morelos. U can read it in the Scotsman mate.



20 Aug 2020 17:02:31
So not the £17m john

And point I wS making no one as yet came in with the money we want as right now he’s not living up too a £20 million striker in 2020
Hence why I said earlier form counts for nothing now
As so much has happened now teams are being more careful?



20 Aug 2020 17:05:03
Irrespective of what they bid
No one has taken him because they won’t pay rangers valuation agree?



20 Aug 2020 17:30:51
OP you should maybe stop reading article as the Lille head dude was on talkSPORT today and says they might come back in for him.



20 Aug 2020 17:32:42
The stig Lille head dude was on talkSPORT and confirmed a big of 16 million was knocked back by rangers.



20 Aug 2020 17:34:07
Coldo wrong again who would have thought it what a banger lol.



20 Aug 2020 17:38:44
Well it's not irrelevant though theinstigno1. The original poster and others claimed Lille weren't interested in Morelos and no bid was made.
That's factually incorrect.
I agree Morelos is struggling with his form, the same could be said for Kent for example 🤔
What's he done in 2020?🤔
I still think Morelos will leave in this transfer window.



20 Aug 2020 17:42:00
Hopefully they bid the valuation and we can move on.



20 Aug 2020 17:56:35
Bid was received and deemed not acceptable. I say let Morelos fight for his place now and his form will return.



20 Aug 2020 17:57:03
The Lille chairman is a tosser. He is trying to unsettle the player. SG said the bid was nowhere near the valuation. I think 16m euro would be pretty close. The Lille chairman was in various papers last week saying the deal was dead. Their captain also saying they seem to have enough fire power as they signed. 2 players and have a few promising youngsters. Also stories that they can’t sign him due to financial fair play. So I wouldn’t put too much trust on Mr Lille. Certainly not enough to be calling fellow posters a banger.



20 Aug 2020 18:26:25
Wrong again Coldo🤦👍👀.



20 Aug 2020 18:28:49
Looks like you're the one still talking nonsense Stig👍
Confirmed by the Lille Chairman.



20 Aug 2020 18:47:06
There is no way we knocked back 16 mil for morelos😂😂👍.



20 Aug 2020 19:00:14
I know you're not keen on SG coldo but are you calling him a liar? 🤔.



20 Aug 2020 19:07:17
Again mr potatoehead

Not much from you apart from silly comments

Not even your opinion on anything just jump in with comments trying to ridicule folk

Suppose what ever gets you off at night - keep on it 👍.



20 Aug 2020 19:07:19
The scotsman you say John🤔, next you'll be telling me to read the sun as for talk sport that's aimed at bangers😂😂👍.



20 Aug 2020 19:15:58
Grumpy, there is no way we knocked back 16mil. Its like the jim traynor mysterious bids from china👍.



20 Aug 2020 19:23:03
Well seeing schools are back - this chat sounds like kids squabbling in a playground more and more every day👍.



20 Aug 2020 19:42:04
Easy to ridicule so called "supporters" who have given up 4 games and bro the season, when we are undefeated, with 4 clean sheets and never once looked like getting beat.
The hysteria from you and others is laughable. 👍👀.



20 Aug 2020 19:53:40
Coldo the Lille chairman said it



20 Aug 2020 20:05:27
Kja9 we wouldn't knock back 16mil, that's 2mil short in dembele dollars and dembele is twice the player👍.



20 Aug 2020 20:07:27
So coldo u say our manager and Lille chairman are liars. I’ll leave the sun to a man off your class.



20 Aug 2020 21:01:26
Ah the bid from China that the BBC reporter claimed there hadnt been a bid and he had to publicly apologize because there had in fact been an £8m bid? 🤔
Do you mean that one coldo? 🤔
Oh dear not having a great night tonight coldo😉.



20 Aug 2020 13:10:08
Regarding the fees for docherty and mccrorie, think because of C.V. clubs just don't have the money to splash out big fees for players, so to reduce the wage bill and make room for new players we have to bite the bullet and take what we can at the moment, sell on clauses could be the important part of deal if things improve.



20 Aug 2020 13:58:19
Spot on border.



20 Aug 2020 14:26:20
Correct border. We actually done well getting money for doc considering we made it plain they were leaving. The add ons and sell on clauses r where additional value can be added. It’s important to reduce salary.
I heard no one complain when we signed Hagi, Roofe Itten for about 25. % less than their pre cv value.
We need to shift at least five more fringe players, I keep saying murph Barker, Middleton, Stewart and Jones.
I don’t think we have sold a player for in excess two million in seven years.
Also heard yesterday we are getting 700k for dire mebube plus add ons and sell ons.
Interesting to note that fee compared to mccrorie and Docherty.



20 Aug 2020 17:42:01
Middleton wouldn't be on a big wage though John?
I think we're probably getting half what we would have got before C.V.. There's likely big sell on clauses involved mccrorie and docherty.



20 Aug 2020 18:18:26
Middleton will be on at least 2k, 100 a year so why pay money for anyone who is not good eenough.
Look where that got us in the past.



20 Aug 2020 12:49:43
What about yaya toure
I know he is 37 but would he not still have that quality of pass and he can still certainly shoot from outside the box which is something we need.
Just seen him on sky sports news saying he wants one more challenge and would even take a championship club so wages shouldn't be an issue anymore think he would be worth a 1 year deal?



20 Aug 2020 14:04:47
No thanks. Doubt we could even offer him what he wants if he's looking for a championship club. They pay about 40mill in wages we can't compete with that.



20 Aug 2020 12:24:18
If Olly Burke can go to West Brom for 15m, then Ryan Kent has to be worth more than 10m.



20 Aug 2020 14:13:44
Thing is transfers aren't an exact science. I would take Kent over Burke any day and hope he doesn't leave as this could be one of our most important players this season.

But plenty on here were saying last year he wasn't worth the £7 million we paid for him.



20 Aug 2020 12:23:16
Good luck to Greg Docherty I hope he has a successful time at Hull.



20 Aug 2020 12:38:31
Yes I wish him well, another lad simply not off the required standard.



20 Aug 2020 12:57:18
I’m gutted for Doc but that’s football. Wish the boy all the best.



20 Aug 2020 12:19:19
What's happening at rangers are we struggling to balance books hence the half pricesale of ouryoung players.



20 Aug 2020 12:39:41
How do you expect an average player like Docherty to make millions.
I await your answer 6 counties.



20 Aug 2020 14:01:08
Yip John exactly, take what u can with these players. We’re lucky enough to be getting a fee for them, and to get them off the wage bill to.



20 Aug 2020 14:11:24
The thing is, players are only worth what other teams are willing to pay for them. If there were teams knocking on our door willing to pay 1 or 2 million for them then that’s what we’d sell them for. Unfortunately there are not. The only clubs trying to purchase them have offered the amounts that we have had to accept (ie around £350,000 and £400,000).
The only other option we have is to leave these players to gather dust whilst sitting in the stands week in week out as we continue to pay their wages (and let’s face it, they weren’t considered good enough for a place in the team over the last two seasons so that’s unlikely to change any time soon) . Which doesn’t do either us as a club or the players themselves any good (and remember both players have also basically asked to be allowed to leave for the good of their careers)



20 Aug 2020 14:43:57
In the past we have paid players to leave so I welcome money coming in and wages freed up. However, I hope we inserted adds-ons and sell-on clauses.



20 Aug 2020 16:17:37
Gers 1978 another good post, I enjoy reading your view
Gus 57 u r correct and I’m sure Wilson is acting professionally and looking after rangers interests.



20 Aug 2020 11:02:50
Poss move for lundstram? Certainly bolster the middle of the park.



20 Aug 2020 12:15:28
Sheffield Utd punched Well above their weight in the EPL last season and any time i watched them Lundstram was one of their better players. I can't imagine they would let him go cheap but really good hard working player who I wouldn't mind seeing at Ibrox but I can't see it to be honest.



20 Aug 2020 10:59:32
Man Utd 2nd keeper Dean Henderson signing an extension to contract worth £100k a week! 23 years old 2nd choice keeper surely that's not sustainable?
Money down there is mental but we keep selling players like Docherty for washers, £400K in big scheme of things is chump change to even Hull and surely his wages off the wage bill won't make that big a difference to our bottom line?
ED what's your thoughts on the market down south in this C.V. era? looks like it's not impacting that much.



{Ed001's Note - it is a lot if they see him as 2nd choice in the long term. Personally I think he should be 1st choice and I think long term he will be.}

20 Aug 2020 12:29:14
Manchester United is The one Team probably in the world that can spend the money as there commercial dept. is amazing they have deals for just about everything. there kit and kit sponsor deals are the biggest in the world.



20 Aug 2020 09:50:30
Are rangers going to let Doherty go for 400.000 if so someones head neads to roll its disgusting the way club is letting these young players go for peanuts when every other club are making a profit on selling.



20 Aug 2020 10:30:18
They don’t get in our match day squads in the Scottish premier mate? How can we demand good money for them? We will have a sell on and if he’s successful we could get a lot more then.



20 Aug 2020 10:38:31
400k is about his value tbh. m more annoyed at letting mccrorie go for 350k. Still not making squad but has more potential than doc.



20 Aug 2020 11:09:54
Docherty did well on loan in England and then at Hibs. He's been playing week in week out for the past 2 seasons and playing well. We bought him for 600k so selling at 400k with sell on isn't good enough. However if he's not going to feature for us and that's the best offer we get then we've no real option other than to sell. Keeping him until his contract runs out and paying all his wages isn't an option. Got to sell i'm afraid. I like him and had hoped he would have been a success at Rangers but good luck to him. Good honest pro.



20 Aug 2020 12:33:31
Six counties. That’s a reasonable price for Docherty. How much did u want.



20 Aug 2020 12:40:24
Agree mocbear

I hoped he would get a chance
Feel really sorry for him To be honest

I hope he does brilliant down there.



20 Aug 2020 12:55:28
One minute posters are saying Morelos and Kent aren't worth what teams are offering.
In the next breath they are moaning about the paltry sums gained for 2 squad players not good enough and demanding millions! 😂🤦.



20 Aug 2020 00:49:46
Sorry John25

Think I may have answered a post you had put on for SGL

And even at that I think I still answered wrong

I gave you the players I rate mostly

Think you had asked what players SGL didn't rate

Anyway just thought I'd apologise for jumping in and even then not even answering properly lol

Need new glasses mate 🤓.



20 Aug 2020 08:55:43
Stig. No problem, your answer was still a good one.



 
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