Rangers Banter Archive May 01 2014

 

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01 May 2014 11:00:31
Can't believe reading on this site some of you still think ally has no blame in this mess.
1: name a board member that ruined this club that ally didn't endorse.

2: what has ally done in any shape to help this club.

Ffs wake up, ally has been kept as manager to tell muppets like you there no problems within this club. When are you going to understand ally is as much a cancer as everybody else.

The guy doesn't have a backbone, FFs.
In his defence he may be too close to the situation.
Tell u what though as soon as he's gone the real truth will come out of his mouth about the club.

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I never said there was no blame - we should have used more youth, spent less on wages and played more attractive football. This might have helped us financially by a couple of million here or there.

And I hope I'm proved wrong but I think he'll get found out next season.

But I'll say it again, Mccoist didn't create this mess in the first place, or blow £67 million did he?

We need to worry about whether we'll have a club at all, instead of going over every McCoist interview picking up on the odd sentence and ripping him to shreds.

If we survive this, we can worry about sho manages the team.

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I will be upfront and admit straight away that I am a fan of Ally. Whilst it looks like I am progressively becoming a minority, I still think he is the right man for the job.
I will admit that there have been times I have been frustrated and even bamboozled by his tactics and more so, his selection policy. But I do not understand why so many people are holding him responsible for the majority of off field problems?
He is the manager, nothing more. He is not responsible for running the club, raising funds, setting budgets, signing off on cheques, paying wages, stadium maintenance, pitch upkeep, the share issue and so on and so on. As the manager of the cub, his responsibilities are limited.
I work as a chef in a hotel, I am employed to produce a high quality of food. If the owners are skimping, fiddling the books and ruining the business, I would not be expected to shoulder the blame.
He is simply an employee who has no control over the budget and is purely responsible for the footballing side of the business that is Rangers. ( which vastly needs improved next season)
Which one of you out there would turn down a massive wage if offered it tomorrow by your employer? Now how many of you would offer to half your wage in order to help your employer?
There is no other manager in the world who is judged the same way as Ally. They are judged on results and on the on field product.
After the Valentines Day massacre when we were in such dire need and had sod all leadership and everyone else was jumping ship, he chose to stand up and try and do what was right for the club for the simple reason that he knew the fans held him in such high regard and he also loves the club.
I don't expect everyone to love the bloke or even like him. As fans, we have every right to blame him for our on field troubles. I just feel it is right to judge him fairly and judge him for what he is paid to do.

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Never said he was to blame but he had a big part,

He brought in players with big wages.
Yes he doesn't do contracts, but he did
Bring them in. He has to have the players in 5* hotels to show rangers are a big club.
He has to have funds every year to compete.

Non of the above was actually needed.
Even to this day he's still asking for more funds to spend. And that twiddle about our wage % being envy for other clubs.??

He is adding to a huge pile.

He needs to go just as well as this board ally has let this club down badly.

Like I said when he is eventually gone, wait and see what really went on at this club that he turned a blind eye to. he backed, and advised us to back every twot who had a hand in this mess.

To sum up I'm not saying ally's to blame, but by god he sure helped the black hole.

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We don't need towait till next season he has been found out already

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He didn't create the mess, no, but the performances against Maribor and Malmo in 2011, kinda helped precipitate the first disaster

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McCoist is the luckiest manager in history. Every time he is under the microscope. some boardroom troubles raise their head and that takes the spot light off of him.

It is fact that we would not be in this financial mess if we had a young and progressive manager in the role since dropping down the leagues. If we had done so, we would now have a better product on the park today. A young hungry team who wanted to prove the doubters wrong.

We had an amazing opportunity to reinvent things. but unfortunately McCoist was there and opted to spend on an un-needed class of player to make up for his tactical naivety. Have you ever seen a worse Rangers manager? If so who?

I would ask what exactly was it he was doing when working alongside Walter Smith for all of those years (Scotland/ Rangers)? What did he learn? Nothing it seems!

Lets remember he blew a 15 point lead when in the SPFL surrendering the titles to Celtic then had us exit Europe. He had half a season with a better team and it all fell to bits. What does that say? What chance do we have under this man when we do get back to the premiership. I would guess a top 4 finish, most seasons at a push.

The mans arrogance also knows no bounds. Daily/weekly and monthly playing to all galleries. He doesn't do walking away. but should be pushed at the earliest opportunity. Thankfully most people are now aware of how rank rotten he is.

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@ 6 "It is fact that we would not be in this financial mess if we had a young and progressive manager in the role since dropping down the leagues"

Really?

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StEddy, you hit the nail on the head. It was obvious, at that stage, he was not the man to manage our team. That is the key to why Green then backed him. Give him big bucks to run the team and the support will follow like lambs to the slaughter. We did and the rest is history.
Whether he was in it with Green who knows, but would you not ask yourself when given a lucrative salary and bonus payment, then the shares-----'' where's the catch?''
Green then let him get what he liked as far as players go, and then set about ripping the ass out of the club.
However, without Green there would be no club, so where were all the Rangers' men then?

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@7 Its all Allys fault you should know that. If we had got a "young progressive manager" in, last season, all our troubles would be over, we would have millions in the bank, a team of youths, a happy united support, a board to be proud of and oh yes we would still be in division 3 with no way back. People don't realise that we are losing money hand over fist to who knows where and to who knows who at least we can see the money that is being spent on players, we need a good team on the park next season and a team of youths would not have got us to here let alone survive next season. Ally is not our enemy check out our majority shareholders for that.

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To say macoist had no say in wages and contracts is totally wrong because he was directly involved in making offer and and details for j daly contract I know that to be factual and as he keeps saying there is no network of scouts therefore all signings and proposed signings are down to him unless he gets someone to write the details on paper and he does not read it

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@ billy b,. never heard so much bull we would never have had Green if Whyte wasn't still involved, no one other than Green was getting the club, once BDO tell us the truth, you will find there will be charges against D&P take your head out of the sand

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Everyone knows we should have used the Youth players more to rebuild and as much as that would have greatly helped the team on the park it would sadly not have made any difference to our finances, as the more money the club would have had would have meant the more money these robbing b'stards would have taken hence the constant pleas to fans for fresh funds.

Remember we did generate £70 million, where is it? Get them out now, including Ally or we will never move forward.

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11. ] Believe what you like. Like it or lump it, much as I despise Green for where we are, he kept us in existence. Your thinking will destroy us and one question ''Where were the great Rangers men when funds had to be raised?'' ------ Answer-- '' Making a lot of noise but doing nothing. ''

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MCoist has been kept by all of the boards for 2 reasons. Firstly because he is seen as a good Rangers man so having him on their side is a great PR tool, secondly they can't afford to get rid of him and the backroom staff.

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To 14. ] but that does not make him a good manager. He is now believing his own garbage and thinks he is good for us. Many now think, rightly so, he is no good for us. He will never regain the respect he has lost, but for goodness sake he must go to retain any dignity.

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First off everybody at the club should be held accountable for the trouble rangers are in from the board down to the management staff yes youth should have been given a chance but what if that didn't work and we were still stuck in the 3rd division we would all be shouting the same as now eg ally has to go get him out, we should have bought some experienced players etc etc. Ally got experience all be it on high wages but they have done their job by that I mean 2 championships in 2 years. Ps I know the football hasn't been pretty infact dire at some points but we all said 2 years ago we have go get back to the top division as quickly as we can cause that's where we belong let's all stick together cause we are the people we will be back and we will NEVER be beaten.

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@ 6 alrus blue I agree with the majority of your post. Except the football related costs are circa £25million of the £70 million spent.
People rushing to McCoist's defense saying they want to give him another season- why he has had 3 already and Ibrox has more and more spaces every time his team and his non tactics are on display.

We are a football club and if the football on display is poor that is down to one man and one man alone- Alastair McCoist.

The boardroom machinations have definitely taken the spotlight off him but those fans wanting him to stay on are remembering his goal scoring activities and ignoring the rubbish we have had to endure in his reign.
Also forgetting Raith Rovers, Albion Rovers, Dundee United 3 times, Inverness Caley Thistle, Forfar, Falkirk and Maribor.
Some of the greatest names in world football? Well no actually.

We pay to watch football matches. The board don't pick the team, sort out tactics and team motivation that is McCoist and his 2 sidekicks.
The board need to go but so does the "manager" formerly known as Super Ally.
But on money and mistakes I notice Everton look like testing United's resolve on Andy Robertson. Former amateur no costs involved = profit- remember that word? Oh and that is down to Ally not the board.

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01 May 2014 09:19:44
MR King where are you, we need you to explain your plans to us, this tit 4 tat is only dragging things on, we need answers to your plans

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Mr spiv I can only say beware of d king bringing no gifts all he wants is season book money which can't be purified under the terms that he has laid down then what happens to the money or how to bears who have supported him get into ibrox only one way pay twice as I said beware he has no shares and so far contributed nothing other than hot air

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01 May 2014 08:25:24
Just got this hot of the press the real Q&A with ALLY and the DR.
Q. Wallace's 120-day review suggests bringing in a director of football. How will that role work?

A. "I don't know. You would have to ask Graham that. I am certainly going to ask him because I haven't a clue what a football director is.

Q. Will you have a say in the appointment?

A "I genuinely don't know. "
 because I have not spoken to Mr Wallace yet although I must say, he seems to being a great job and has even got me a massive "War Chest" to keep me from getting bored.

Q. Do you need one?

A. "I will need to talk to Graham about that.
Oh you mean a director of football?not War Chest, dam because that "Chest" always gets the punters all excited and "knocks the ball oot the wee hole in the napper" But since you asking?.
We definitely need help. We need help with scouting, with the medical department and with everything. I don't know what a director of football would cover. It might cover some of that but I don't know exactly what his role would be. "OMG do you think a director could teach us how to get the best performance out our new cars. poor Blackie hasna a clue about that big red fecker he is driving. the cleaner had to put oil in it last week and she was one of the workers made redundant last week so we are all at a loss for the now.?


Q. How much consultation was there before Graham made these announcements?

A. "We had consultation on that appointment ( reporter to Ally aside, aye Ally watch what ya saying mate,, couple questions back you stated you hadna spoken to GW aboot it).
But not at any great length or in any great detail (. The fact he is making the appointment to help would certainly encourage me. " Although did I not just say we had, nt talked about it? oooo my brain, name them shame them. sorry went off on 1 there.

Q. Sometimes these guys effectively sign players?

A. "I'm not sure that's a good idea to be honest. " because where would all the old ones go to retire and of course my mates.

Q. What about talent identification?

A. "If the manager tells him which talent to identify then that's a good idea. That's the best way to operate. It goes without saying, there's no point in someone identifying talent that the football club or team don't want, or don't need. Who would want a new Messi flung at there door, god the extra expense would cripple our club. (HEY OF THE RECORD SAY NOTHING, i'm GOING TO GET BOYDIE AND MILLER IN BEFORE THE GUY STARTS)
That would go without saying. That wouldn't be a good idea, it may make me look even more useless.
But obviously if he was identifying talent which the football staff want then. I'd be happy with that. " (Would I bloody what, there is no way i'm losing any my well earned money to pay for this guy)

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Yawn.

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