Rangers Banter Archive March 01 2014

01 Mar 2014 22:16:06
Heard just over an hour ago that dave king is going to be coming over to scotland pronto to set in motion the trust scheme for the supporters to put their season ticket money into, he's got his lawyers looking at the legality set up of such accounts, also he has already spoken to his friend & ex rangers captain & legend richard gough about becoming the figurehead for the trust he's setting up in which gough is going to accept, this is now moving very fast, dk most definitely means business, the outcome in all this is so very crucial for our great football club, what do you think fellow 'gers fans?

{Ed039's Note - if his wheels are in motion then insolvency event is on the horizon)

I won't be a part of it its to dangerous and it will all end badly for the club mark my words its not only spivs that have shares but there is genuine supporters with shares their holding should not be put at risk dave king does not think about them only his qwn agenda as I said many times before anybody wants control put there money on the table and it will do the talking for them and till that happens I will not be supporting any underhand attempt I sY AGAIN THINK of the genuine bears with an investment in the club WHO HAVE PUT THERE MONEY ON THE TABLE

Bears please let's be careful here. When an unorganised mob corner an animal all hell and survival kicks in and unrational decisions are made, usually for the worst. All I am saying here Bears is be rational and carful in your initial assessment. Be rational and be conclusive of what the outcome will be before we again go charging in. I honestly believe the FANs will save our team but it needs to be organised.

Our accounts late at companies house, there is pre-admin meeting rumoured for monday. and dave is bringing together plan for ST, but if we in admin then same ST money will be needed to buy club (but not assets)

then we debtfree in splfl, but without ibrox, etc etc

some say this plan all along, shed debt and be in splf with others owning out assets.

I would imagine GW will have a response out before shares start trading on Monday.

N3 if what you say was right then whoever owned assets would need to pay for the upkeep of assets

Hedge funds are just professional asset strippers (spivs in suitd),.

coomonwealth games, spfl cup/semis and the tennant (fans ibrox crumbling or a new debenture. your name on seat) will ensure landlords don't need to pay for asset upkeep.

is assets have income of £2-3m a year the its a £30m value asset, income and resale value. once we get into cl £10m bounty can start to rebuy statium back.

hedge fund wins all the way. we a debt-free and asset-free fotball club, as planned all along.

Please no mass hysteria act rationally

02 Mar 2014 12:32:48
@6 Buy the stadium back? Why would our landlord want to sell the stadium back rather than rake in a very tidy rent every year? Or are you suggesting all this has been planned for the long term good of the club?

Ed was Dave King not the Finance Director at the oldco?if so he didn't exactly do a good job with the fans money last time around.

{Ed039's Note - Dave king joined the board as non executive director in 2000, I don't ever remember him being anything other than that)

Go listen to tapes of green and whyte and thier sevco plans. pb72 all there

admin/cva (stage 1 shed debts), ipo (float newco) with £30m valuation, transfer assets (sales and lease back, or seize assets to cover rifc debts to trfc), release 30% more shares if someone tries to buy lock stock and barrell.

will fans be happy if we in splf debt free and paying £2-3m rent per year on ibrox. to some faceless group? or would they want control back.

blue pitch holdings. huge clue in name.

margareta? like the bank averts where someone complains about charges, and bank managers says charges need to pay for our drinks at end of year. chink chink.

fully expect aim company to hold assets and hive of football company. which would then be debtfree

02 Mar 2014 22:23:33
@10 yeah i'm more or less familiar with the scenario you describe, not listened to the tapes but read about them. But never heard anything before about selling ibrox back again to the club, after the sale then lease back. How would selling it back again ft in to their plans? What would be the motivation for that rather than just creaming in rent year on year? Just because the fans wouldn't be happy with it and want control? that's the bit I don't get. Thanks for your first reply to my question but could you please explain why it would make sense for green to sell back ibrox again once he's got his grubby hands on it?

N6 cheers for info on asset thing

My s. t doh is going straight into the trust. There's no chance I'll give that lot another bean. Why can't everyone see that by feeding the toxic waste is more dangerous than putting your money into the trust. Get behind king for a brighter future.

01 Mar 2014 18:20

Ed039's Note - As a few of you have asked I have put up a new poll. The question today - Is Ally McCoist the right man for the Rangers job?

How many times can I vote

{Ed039's Note - Once I think, it should remember your IP address and only let you vote the once)

Good job the vote is online if had it been live u would need to open ibrox to hold the no voters that's the stage things are at

01 Mar 2014 17:10:02
when ally goes to london to the board meetings its good job the faceless men on the board don't go to the games they will only see results not performances or he would have to put a spin (on his football talk)

Ally isn't going anywhere anytime soon. At least he is not head butting people, arguing with his fans in the stands or spitting on scarfs at pitchside.

That would be better than what we suffer on the park moe entertaining

01 Mar 2014 18:12:14
Total utter garbage. doesn't he see tie same game as us?
Beyond bad now. Please walk away Ally. don't leave ureself open to anymore ridicule. I backed Black at 20s to score first today. Just because of the price. I didn't realise he was playing til bout the 60th minute. Take the titles ally and walk. Please no more
tomblue

Yeah another woeful performance and most players were shocking again today. I don't understand how Foster gets a game as he has nothing. Black struts around the midfield but can only seem to pass sideways, can't put in a tackle without fouling someone and his shooting all season has been embarrassing. When Law was signed I thought he was a stick on to be player of the year but he tends to disappear for long periods if the game, Aird hardly beats a man and his corners were terrible yet he kept taking them. Little never looks like scoring anymore and the standard of free kicks around the box is as bad as I have ever seen.

01 Mar 2014 22:13:10
Total utter garbage. doesn't he see tie same game as us?
Beyond bad now. Please walk away Ally. don't leave ureself open to anymore ridicule. I backed Black at 20s to score first today. Just because of the price. I didn't realise he was playing til bout the 60th minute. Take the titles ally and walk. Please no more
tomblue

01 Mar 2014 22:30:34
Rangers havnt been able to take free kicks around the box since Coop or Tam Mclean. Dire. wee barrys free kicks took 2 mins to come back down to earth. I swear I saw a centre half lite a fag while w8ing for itto drop. And as for the "Rangers thing" bout taking a touch b4 shooting? wTF is that about.? Unbelievable. Ally has signed the wrong players since he was handed our inheritence. Foster? Faure? Black? Smith? The keeper who gets paid for nothing? Pathetic nonsense. And I fear we may have made a major mistake supporting him. i'm so disappointed in him and Durranty. So so disappointed.
Tomblue

02 Mar 2014 12:24:35
Rangers havnt been able to take free kicks around the box since Coop or Tam Mclean. Dire. wee barrys free kicks took 2 mins to come back down to earth. I swear I saw a centre half lite a fag while w8ing for itto drop. And as for the "Rangers thing" bout taking a touch b4 shooting? wTF is that about.? Unbelievable. Ally has signed the wrong players since he was handed our inheritence. Foster? Faure? Black? Smith? The keeper who gets paid for nothing? Pathetic nonsense. And I fear we may have made a major mistake supporting him. i'm so disappointed in him and Durranty. So so disappointed.
Tomblue

Dissapointed that's an understaement

01 Mar 2014 14:52:57
another afternoon of brilliant free flowing football dazzling wing play brilliant tactics unfortunetly there was no pipe band at half time to outshine everybody???????????

01 Mar 2014 14:37:40
I'm not an Ally basher but enough is enough. You are and always will be a legend at Rangers but please realise it's time to move on.

01 Mar 2014 13:37:16
Yet again another 45 minutes of dirge, poor passing, slow at the back, Temps getting booted all over the place, really hard to watch. nothing on the bench. so more dire football second half. hope not. Come on Rangers. get the finger out. Rangers Always.

Once again one paced rubbish. No thought no imagination and no quality. Black seems only capable of passing sideways, Law virtually anonymous, Aird yet to beat a man and what the hell is Foster doing at Rangers? Hopeless doesn't begin to describe him

Well just watched the game on my computer and that's the worst I've seen all season, totally clueless, if this a sample of what's to come gers have no chance of winning the championship when they get into it doug t. s. o

01 Mar 2014 12:00:53
I see Ally's team today has only one of what I would call an Ibrox youngster in the team -Fraser Aird. Crawford is on the bench but that is it. Why does he persist in picking Black? Good that Templeton and Shiels are starting but as I've said before surely if he recalled Mackay and MacAusland from loan and McLeod was fit (is he?) all three should start every game? Foster in the team too is a retrograde step. What do others think? The team is Bell; Foster, Moshni, McCulloch, Wallace; Templeton, Law, Black, Aird; Daly, Shiels

I agree 100% it's just not going to happen though the league will be won soon & il be surprised surely Halkett & Gasparotto deserve a chance too if they're doing so well for the reserves.

Maybe the youngsters would show more drive. I'm streaming the game and yes the pitch is not good for passes and east fife have a lot of bodies behind the ball but those are no excuses for the lack of urgency. They need a Ferguson type to dictate the play. On a different note I'm in Osaka at the moment and it's raining cats n dogs, looks lovely in fife!

It would not surprise me if we never saw the youngsters this season as ally will try going through the season unbeaten and in all honesty it would not surprise me in the least

01 Mar 2014 10:10:39
Been a season holder since 84, next season I will be doing pay as I go. Every week.

Funnily enough, I find myself agreeing with this. Although it is convenient to have a season book and works out cheaper, it does not have the flexibility that going when it suits has.
It also may help the return of district supporter's clubs, that were the life blood of Rangers, with the supporter's association being the co-ordinated voice and main distibutor of tickets for the club.
Yes Mcc, this could be the way forward and we could do what happened in the bad old days and talk with our feet.

I am quite certain u won't be alone in doing that because the older u get its a thought to go go to ibrox on the wildest of days to watch the mince that's on display but in the wider scheme of things the seasons should be altered to give football supporters the chance or the luxury of watching in better weather especially in the lower leagues where there is limited cover it would also help teams in europe if the leagues started earlier it would suit the qualifying rounds as we no longer are good enough to get straight in