Rangers Banter Archive January 01 2012

01 Jan 2012 23:36:38
Who says rangers don't have money and celtic do?

In the summer window, Rangers spent more than the rest of the scottish clubs in all leagues combined.

What a lot of tosh, we got 1.8 million for vogue and 800.000 for Adam, check the net spend

Whos vogue? does he strike a good pose?*ksd*

01 Jan 2012 23:34:20
41 years ago our fans were bringing in the bells,the next day they went to a football match 66 never came back ABSENT FRIENDS ALWAYS IN OUR HEARTS

What kind of,moron ticks the disagree box on this post sickens me,complete planks,trueblue........

Wonder who they could be.

01 Jan 2012 22:05:32
Time to wake up bears, this new owner has no money, and has no desire to do anything other than make a quick buck. Look at the facts , he promised £5m up front with another £10m to be front loaded. That never happened.
This is the man who refuted the BBC programme and then had to admit that he was barred. The is the man who does not pay bills until he's in court. Yet some of you are still clinging to the belief that we will spend money.
I totally believe that this man has no interest other than putting us into administration, the he will flee with his pockets full.
I have been watching the gers for forty years and find the whole situation to be a disgrace. RANGERS SHOULD NEVER BE OWNED BY ONE MAN. God knows we have seen what state Sir David has left us in, because his other business is in trouble. We the fans have sat and are continuing to sit back and watch this charlatan embarrass this great club.
We need to demand answers, we need to know what has happened to all the promises, in fact we need to own the club and not some spiv. As much as I hate to say it, those across the city would not put up with this, they hit the streets and demanded change until they got it. We should be doing the same.
For those of you that believe mr whyte saved us from the bank, I seem to remember that the bank agreed to the jelavic transfer, can't see mr tight ever spending over £4m on any player. The old saying is true that if you pay peanuts you get monkeys and see that ally is saying that he can't win the title with no money. Think this is trying to back mr tight into a corner and can really see that ally may walk if he is not backed. Think that as a true legend that may be the wisest course of events as he is on a hiding to nothing.
Incidentally how our previous great leader, Sir Dave has not been hauled over the coals for what he has done to us, he is sitting in his mansion somewhere not giving a monkeys. He is the one who declared himself a custodian of the club whose job was to pass the club in a better state than when he took over - failed. He was the one that promised that he would only sell to the right person - failed. He is the one that put us in this position with the tax man because of his dodgy dealings.

My hopes for 2012 are that we the fans, the real people that matter, make our feeling heard loud and clear, and clear this spiv out of our club and the sooner the better.

Would you have preferred SDM to still be owner and for us to have sold; McGregor, Jelavic, Davis, Whittaker etc. last Summer?

What a sad person sitting and writing an essay on something you know nothing about, any criticism directed at Whyte is misdirected, he took on the club he loves when nobody else would touch it with a badgepole because of this tax case. When the tax case is resolved, we can then comment on Whyte's performance.

Rangers for me.

I could not agree more. Ally missed out on all of his first choice transfer targets in the summer and I'm afraid we should brace ourselves for similar during Januart window.

For you that think I am sad. Whyte has paid £1, he has transferred the debt in the way that he is the only secured debtor, so he will get his money back. He will put us in admin when we lose the tax case, all the assets will be sold by the administrator, namely jela, Davis, mcgregor. Then he will buy club back for next to nothing, then sell it debt free for £5-6m and walk away. We will be left with no decent players. Now that is sad.

For the person who asked if I would have preferred DM to still be in charge, then yes because his companies would have been liable for the tax bill, instead of running away.

Its bargepole ya clown

Whyte is only a rangers to make a quick buck? Aye coz there's a long list of people desperate to buy us. Get a grip of yourself Whyte is trying to sort out the mess Murray left. Just now rangers are spending what they CAN afford. Which seems the smart thing to do until the tax case is sorted. Blame Murray not whyte

Johnger

01 Jan 2012 21:06:10
Kris Boyd was at murray park today for contract talks with ally and my dad said he asked ally about it and he just smiled so looks like boydy is on his way back to the gers WATP

One word...

Pish

Thats amazing considering boyd is down in england at the moment.

Thats amazing coz he aint in england he was at his inlaws to be 2day!

The guy who put one word pish it is actually 3 words

01 Jan 2012 20:57:05
Rangers have been in contact with Doncaster and asked permission to speak to Billy Sharp. He is one of 2 strikers we are looking to bring in as Jelavic is dedfiniteky off. Sharp has a release clause of £1.85m.
Seems a bit of a bargain if you ask me.

And you know this how ?

1.85 million? You don't have £1.85

01 Jan 2012 20:27:19
Happy New Year to you all and your families, hope you all have a prosperous 2012.........I also hope your sorry ass team get poked!

Laters!
Miko x

I c you have appeared from the wilderness again come back when you actualy wanna talk football like lenny

unnamed bear 86

01 Jan 2012 20:17:54
I know it was only a TV show and everyone gets taken the p!$h out of, but like me are all the real Rangers fans embarrassed by the goings on of Craig Whyte? It seems every day he brings more embarrassment to our great club, and Only an Excuse only highlighted how others see Mr Whyte as a figure of fun and more worringly a person not to be believed. Has he taken Rangers forward? In my and most supporters who have not buried their heads in the sand, no he has not. He made a lot of promises and kept very few of them.
Will Ally get money, I doubt it. Will Whyte sell our best players and keep the money, I am afraid he will.
What we need is honest answers and if promises are made, promises must be kept. a very worried bear.

I have not made my mind up about Whyte yet i dont know if we should trust him or not and no i dont think he has taken us forward but the way i see it is if he had not taken us over we might not be here at all however if he does not give Ally cash to splash then it looks grim

Take a bow mate,hopfully some of your fellow fans wake up & smell the coffee

What gets me is all the above is true yet it was it will be all whyte on the night & in whyte we trust?

Who ever rangers sell ally will see less than a 1/4 of it

Lenny

I think it's a bit early to judge whyte coz he is still dealing with the mess that Murray left. Think we shud wait till after the tax case before saying if whyte has moved club forward. As for the players, there isn't 1 of them that I wouldn't sell. No passion no talent. Remember whyte never made the mess he is only trying to clean it up. He SHOULD have rangers best interests at heart after all he is SUPPOSED to be 1 of us

It seems every day he brings more embarrassment to our great club, and Only an Excuse only highlighted how others see Mr Whyte

how does craig whyte bring embarrassment to rangers on a daily basis? do some of yous not understand the mess that was left behind and this was the only guy prepared to go in and try to sort the mess out, give him some time to do that and then have your say and as for your comment about this is how people see him cos it was on only an excuse lol aye ok so everybody on only an excuse is seen the way they put them across then, jim white cant do his job if a female is sat beside him lol craig brown cant remember what team he is the manager of lol away u go ffs

Perhaps you do not think whyte is an embarrasment, he is the one who does not pay bills until someone takes him to court, this is the man that was barred from seven years from being a director, he is not the whyte in shining armour, he is looking to make a quick buck. This is the man who will probably oversee the rangers in administration, and then flee with his pockets full. I think that is an embarrassment and all rangers fans should.

Perhaps you do not think whyte is an embarrasment, he is the one who does not pay bills until someone takes him to court, this is the man that was barred from seven years from being a director, he is not the whyte in shining armour, he is looking to make a quick buck. This is the man who will probably oversee the rangers in administration, and then flee with his pockets full. I think that is an embarrassment and all rangers fans should

why did u not buy rangers then? i mean whyte has no money and is only doing this to make a quick buck as u say, surely u could have done the same or are u not as bright as mr whyte?

01 Jan 2012 20:05:10
I see Mcoist the sneak up tohis usual with players that are still under contract! Dorrans i like the boy... Tap tap... Still you have no chance of signing him hes on more than your 10k wage cap

01 Jan 2012 20:01:16
Rather than looking at guys like sandaza, I would rather see the gers go for falkirks farid el alagui, I also think that Mehdi Touil would be a good signing, David templeton is another

Jason

01 Jan 2012 19:38:28
Nacho novo will sign this week. Fact. A massive step backwards in my opinion

Why would we want Nacho back . I know he was mr Rangers who gave everything for us . but he was a bench player at best when he was here . I think we need to look at better players.

A step backwards ? are you having a laugh the wee man is still better than 90% of the duds at our club just now.i would rather have rangers men here when needed than that lasy bam jelavic and the likes.

Do you think Nacho is better than Ortiz and Bedoya? If the answer is yes then it's a step forward.

GovanFR

There's only one Nacho Novo! Get him back, get the Pish like Ortiz out

Lafferty or Novo? mmmm
Your kidding yourself on if you think we already have have better.
If played through the middle he will score 20+ a season as he did in his first with us.
He has scored against some of the best teams in Europe. Don't dismiss the wee man, beggers can't be chosers.
I would be very suprised if we have any real money to spend, why gamble what little we have on unknown players.
Get him signed, it would bring a lift to the whole club and most fans.
BR

01 Jan 2012 19:31:15
Rangers today accepted a 2.9M bid for Nikica Jelavic from Atletico Madrid. Worrying.

What on earth is going on in the boardroom?

I'll save others replying to this post. Its lies.
GCUK

Good business thats twice what hes worth!

Where did you get that info from if its the truth because think they winding u up m8 2.9m theres no way!

Where did I get the info?

Won't be specific but an employee of the club. She works at Ibrox and sees members of the board, management and playing staff on a regular basis.

Was she on quadruple time for working on New Years day?

Complete and utter cr@p, why bother with this type of nonsense ?

01 Jan 2012 19:10:14
My jan window prediction:

in Boyd

Out Jelavic 7m, davis 2.75m and fleck (loan)

Fraser

How can rangers sign players if they need to cut the wage bill by X million?

01 Jan 2012 18:48:27
Kirk Broadfoot - Can't defend, Beat players or put in a cross

Steve Davis - For the last few months has been awful, totally uninspiring as a Rangers Captain

Steven Whittaker - Has never been able to defend and this season can't attack either.

Greg Wylde - Can't put in a cross and has no skill.

Maurice Edu - Unless it's a pass back it's no pass at all

Lee Mculloch - Same as above but more likely to get sent off.

Kyle Lafferty - Has 10 good games a season that keep most fans iff his back. £1m player at best but we paid nearly 4!

Jelavic - Great player but well off form just now.

None of this matters however to Ally Mcoist however as he sees something that the rest of us don't!

We deserve better as Rangers fans!

Well the team- whoever is put out there- DESERVES to be supported.

Why do they deserve to get Supported if they don,t give a damn about the fans who most earn a fraction of the money that the players are earning and giving nothing in return. We pay our money so we can have our say and that players don,t deserve any bloody support just now

Get a grip, as a Rangers fan you don't "deserve" anything. Hard earned money is paid for tickets to games and merchandise but it's the same at every other club in the world, just because Rangers aren't meeting your high and mighty expectations doesn't mean you're being ripped off and more than anyone at any other match on a Saturday.

I agree, the team right now are shocking, the football on display is abysmal to watch and lets be honest the manager can't spot a player for love nor money but if Rangers win the title they'll do it by hard work and barring some funny business ala Serie A "deserve" it in the end. They won't do it just so the cretin element in the stands that somehow feel they have to see their team win all the time or else don't bother turning up (and instead spend their time calling radio phone ins to demand the manager be sacked and to moan about Mo Edu and Kirk Broadfoot) are satisfied.

They'll do it for real fans that support the team through thick and thin. Show some faith and some loyalty for goodness sake, and I mean loyalty of the kind that doesn't involve singing Rule Britannia. Getting behind the team rather than hurling abuse from the stands for every misplaced pass might help them pick up points.

Before you sit there and pass judgement on me as a fan then you have no right. I,ve supported this team through thick and thin for more than 40 years and never once called for a manager to be sacked but i have a right to moan when you see players like jelavic etc not even trying. I grew up watching the likes of sandy jardine, bobby russell, alex macdonald, tommy mcclean etc giving there all for the bloody team and hardly miss a bloody game, the modern footballer are overpaid prima donna,s who deserve to get a hard time from fans who pay their money.

01 Jan 2012 18:43:06
Mcoist says he needs to bring in fresh faces. Whyte says the wage bill is to high and we need to bring in money.

So can someone explain to me why we pay wages to guys like Kerkar, Mckay, Ortiz, Bedoya and Healy when Mcoist clearly has no intention of dropping any players no matter how bad they play?

What is the point in Murray park when we have guys like Hutton, Cole, Mcmillan, Fleck, Little, Perry and Ness who could all probably do a better job than the likes of Broadfoot, Mculloch, Edu, and more recently Whittaker, Jela, Davis and Lafferty.

Honestly if you're a young guy how demoralising must it be when Ally would rather spend money we dont have on sh*t he wont play rather than play them and the players that do play sh*t know that no matter how bad they play they won't get dropped.

I don't understand how 50000 fans every week can see this but Ally can't?

Rossco Cyprus Bear

Spot on, murray park is a total waste of money. I would play the like of hutton, ness (if fit) and any younster because they would have hunger

The youngsters have hunger but can't be relied upon to play week in week out as they've still a lot to learn and playing a team of youngsters would probably just result in dropped points.

McKay, Ortiz and Bedoya have to go down as poor signings who haven't actually improved the team other than adding numbers in case of an injury crisis.
We've hardly seen them but there's obviously a reason for it. Ortiz has played quite a few times and in my honest opinion is a donkey and complete waste of money.

Playing both the youngsters and new signings would also disrupt the current understanding in the team as they'd need to be blended in.

Good post Rossco, that is what Walter did last year, he signed quality over quantity and took the risk that the young guys would need to come in; last season we saw Ness, Hutton, Cole and Wylde break into the first team. This season we have seen Perry who I am happy to have as cover. I actually think McCoists plan is the Summer was to have Ness play ahead of Edu but he has been without him for most of the season.

GovanFR

01 Jan 2012 18:23:42
See if rangers are to sell jelavic should that tight -unt whyte not be getting k Boyd in now and getting him match fit

Get boyd match fit hes never been match fit ever his fitness was never the issue its his attitude that stinks

Dont need to be match fit to stand and wait for a ball coming in

01 Jan 2012 18:18:15
A few of you have hangovers, we will not sign dorrans, culler, or anyone else that costs money. Do you not realise that we have NO money, nada, zilch, f all. How many hints do you need. We may get a couple of loanees in but it will not be Livermore, nor will it be anybody from the epl, because we have NO money. The best we can hope for is that nobody comes in for any of our players, and the way they have performed that is a distinct possibility.

WE HAVE NO MONEY.

Are you Craig Whyte? Cuellar could be signed on a pre-contract so no fee required. If players leave that will free up wages, example; Weir, Broadfoot out Cuellar in.

GovanFR

01 Jan 2012 18:04:50
does anyone know if Kyle Huttons loan at Partick has expired or is till the end of the season?

He's back with the champs now
happy new year bears
amo

It's expired, he left there a couple of weeks ago but wasn't eligible to play with Rangers again until the 1st of January.

WATP

Yes it has expired he is back with Rangers, McCoist says he has yet to decide whether to loan him out again of whether he will feature for Rangers in the second half of the season.

GovanFR

01 Jan 2012 17:06:47
Out

Jelavic
Mackay
Edu
Healy
Weir
Fleck
Broadfoot

In

Dorrans
Boyd
Sandaza
Sutter

01 Jan 2012 16:13:45
Seems to be a lot of rumpours already. Personally, going by Mr Whytes summer transfer shenanigans, I would be surprised if we brought in anyone over £500k- and that is pushing it. If Jelavic is sold, can t see us getting much, if any, of the funds to reinvest. Doing things on the cheap seems to be way forward.

01 Jan 2012 15:46:52
Mcoist.. Ive told Craig we need to strengthen the forward area..... I need to sit down and discuss what our spending plans are for January..... Craig has said we have to move players on before we can spend.... I was told just before the Celtic game we recieved a bid for Jelavic from QPR which is all i needed to be frank.... I can categorically say we have had no bids for Jelavic..... Craig has told me i will have some money to spend but it depends on how much transfer money comes in..... I dont want to sell any of our good players indeed i want to strengthen the team... Mcoist tells it different everyday cant you lot see the spin and lies coming out of ibrox is astonishing!! Mark my words Jelavic will be sold for an undisclosed fee and you will get a couple of loan deals at best!

I agree,ihope ally's not being a stooge for whyte and just toeing the party line as he better beware the backlash when the trurh comes out.i fear we might be in a worse place than even the tims want us to be

Maybe the bid before the games was rescinded as he played crap and was in Rognes back pocket the whole game!

01 Jan 2012 15:04:56
happy new year bears.i hope we get back on track the morra this league is still ours remember they are serial losers so lets get behind the team.watp. airdrie bear

We will get back on track tomorrow as long as walters love child ally plays the correct players in their correct positions . no mccullock please .

01 Jan 2012 14:41:12
i would get in dorrans, boyd, templeton, and i would like to see becchio from leeds in i think he's been an excellent striker in championship.

01 Jan 2012 14:15:03
Anybod/ED aware of the fee tottenham owe us? {Ed001's Note - it's not much, just a final few instalments on the transfer. Not sure exactly how much it is though.}

Seventeen pence

There is nothing due, in fact none of the hut ton money went into the club, it was used by dm to pay Joe loius for his shares. This was t
He year we made the urfa cup final and sold culler and hut ton and the debt rose. Thanks again dm {Ed001's Note - it couldn't have been used, the transfer, like all transfers until recently when UEFA's FFP ruling came into being, was paid over a period of time via instalments. Now all payments have to be made within (if I remember correctly) 2 years, rather than over extended periods of time, like in the past.}

01 Jan 2012 12:37:50
Craig Whyte has told Ally he can spend some of the cash he brings in from selling players. After missing out on european football it's fair to say we can't spend it all as I think at the start of the season Whyte said he'd budgeted approx £4m from any euro run.

So if we look at roughly what we could raise from players going out the door this is what i reckon we could raise, and free up in wages for any loan moves.

Out: Broadfoot £500k, Weir Release, Ortiz (Novo swap?), Mckay £400k, Healy £100k, Jelavic £4m and Dorrans, Mculloch £200k, Edu £2m, Kerkar Release, Fleck Loan.

If you guess that the £4m from the Jela sale would go to the club coffers this would leave us £3.2m and a fair bit of wages freed for loan moves. And Novo if we could do a swap deal.

Think we could do some business on free transfers and cheap players like bringing in.

In: O'Connor £250k, Boyd Free, Riordan Free, Scott Allan £500k, Livermore (Loan), Novo (Ortiz swap), Cuellar £1m, Goodwillie (Loan),

This would only cost £1.75m with the remaining cash going to wages or to the coffers.

This is only my opinion but with these moves this is the squad we could have. Never going to happen though as Ally's stuck in his ways but it is realistic.

Alexander
Shagger

Mcmillan Cole Perry Papac
Cuellar Goian Bocanegra Wallace

S.Allan Ness
Riordan Livermore Hutton Wylde
Novo Davis Dorrans Aluko

Lafferty O'Connor
Boyd Goodwillie

Injured: Whittaker, Naismith

This is much better than what we currently have and i think is realistic in terms of money spent and players that would come to us.

Were is the money going too come from?lmao..no matter if yous sell full starting 11,be no money for ally 2 spend,,wake up and smell the coffee,and stop beleiving awe the spin from whytes pr spewpit,yous are doomed,armagedon in march

You have forgot to turn off your " football manager " game on your Xbox m8. Go and have a wee lie down !

Called an opinion mate. Try getting one and posting it rather than coming on to slate other peoples

01 Jan 2012 11:07:24
bring back stephen dobbie?

01 Jan 2012 08:12:09
Perhaps a long shot but it would be good news to hear that Ally McCoist reads this website. I have a lot of time for him and admire his sincerity and down right honesty when being interviewed. I'd like him to explain why players like McKay, Bedoya, Fleck and Bendiksen don't get game time. Why Hutton loaned to Partick when he says he needs more money for better players. Which players in his starting eleven does he mean aren't good enough for him to retain the title ? Answer the questions the fans want answered. How bad is the Ness situation and will he come right ? We've imploded since losing Naismith. Great as he is he's one player only. I still reckon Ally has something up his sleave and will get us to 4 in a row. We need it pretty damn soon.

01 Jan 2012 00:58:20
Here's to year were we survive and Mr tight is out before 2013 get real gers men in

The gers grim reaper

01 Jan 2012 00:25:40
As chick young said on only an excuse " we are f##ked"

I thought only an excuse was rubbish this year

Been rubbish for years mate,but agree.last nights was worst.time to call a halt.

This years wasn't even funny

It's been rubbish most years.

Rubbish