Rangers Banter Archive February 01 2013

01 Feb 2013 21:33:32
Good luck to our young team tomorrow, they are inexperienced and Dundee United are without doubt favourties. But lets hope Rangers give a good account of themselves, it's the biggest game of these young players careers.

We have a goalkeeper that's played in a UEFA cup final, stop make these inexperience excuse, if we had a decent manager I think we would have a chance.

Hoping we get at least a draw. It's this kind of match where we can really judge Ally as a manager.

Quit with the young players nonsense why don't you.
Rangers players are the second highest paid in Scotland and therefore should be favourites what with internationalists also.

Why so the excuses now which seems to be the next favorite is that we have a young inexperienced team? How many times do you have to mention it, I guess you are already ready for a loss. You do you know that the club is not the youngest out there right? For there are young players at clubs and avegerage age is younger which they are winning. I'll be ready for all the we lose because we are so young from you as the result why we lost and not from bad management.

And also biggest game in your new club's history too!
Nice to see you getting in early with your excuses though ;-)
NaCS

Read on here quite often that there's no difference between SPL and Div 3. So, seeing as Gers are 20 points clear and Dundee Utd are mid table it should be a scoosh.

Mind you Goram said it was easier to win away in CL than Div 3. So, who knows what will happen.

Shuggy

Wish people stop going on about young team average age 23. 7 not bad Motherwell 24 Montrose 22. 8 celtic 25 Alloa 23. 6 Aberdeen 23. 8 Stirling 24. 5 so you see most teams are young trying to make the failures seem not so bad by saying its a young team and average age of Dundee untd 25

02 Feb 2013 09:56:35
Young players? Alexander, Ciribari, Wallace, Black, Shiels, Templeton, McCulloch, Sandaza cannot be referred to as kids. These eight players have plenty of experience so using the excuse that the team is full of kids is utter nonsense.

Alexander-34, lee mcculloch-34, ian black 27, dean shiels-28, templeton -24 cribari-32 kevin kyle-31, sandaza-28, all possible starters, all been established players, not young players at all lets put that myth to bed!

01 Feb 2013 19:54:10
What's with all the young team? Absolute nonsense. Could name at least 10 who are regulars week in, week out!. Also ally served as walters apprentice for a few years and has learned bugger all, he is inept and if the rangers had styed in the SPL would be fighting for relegation! time to go, simples, have had too many embaressing results so far this season and can see a demolition job at tannadice.

The squad we have would be fighting relegation in the spl. But, we aren't in the spl, we are in division 3, 20points clear of our city, ableit they have 3 games in hand. Even if they win tomorrow after we play them I believe we will be 20points ahead, them havin 2 games in hand

When the Bears win, you going to come on here and sing their praises?

People don't care about how many points we are ahead its a diddy league we were always going to win it
its the boring football that we have payed to go watch and mccoist who can't even play two attakers at home and always plays the rubbish ex spl players instead of the young talented players that we have only temps and wallace deserve their place. mccoist isn't goodenough tactic wise and can't make desicions when we are losing or strugling in a game. just stands with his arms folded.

01 Feb 2013 13:31:29
hi fellow bears, just wanting to know your feelings on the lord nimmo enguiry will go. rangers lawyers never called any witnesses, seemingly relying on the ebt outcome as a measure of what should happen in this situation. the worst part I think for all fellow bears like me, is the time factor it will take to be revealed, around 3 weeks! boyblue

The FTTT outcome is a completely different legal question to the proper registration of players question.
Presently (subject to appeal) more than 50% of EBTs were not breaking tax law but these 'loan payments' and their EBT documentation had to be presented to SPL and SFA for each individual players registration but they were withheld.
Hence each EBT player was incorrectly registered (FIFA and Uefa definition) and hence each game 3-0 to rangers opposition. Hence game by game 11 years of winning games melts away. Hence 5 titles melt away.

If you are a true blue I am sorry to question your post but I think you are a Timothy in disguise!
My point in this as a shareholder for many years I recieved an statement of accounts prior to the AGM (something we need to do for the next 3 years to be able to play in Europe) It included ETB's and I am sure the SFL SPL would also have seen it at the time.
So why did they do nothing then if it was illegal payments?
This is a total whitch hunt against our great club also funny how SDM and wee rubbish were not called to the hearing.

@1 if it was as clear cut as that then a verdict would have been delivered already. Like the tax case it's much more complex and the result could go either way. You're just speculating and really don't know what the outcome will be.

@2: so anyone who posts something you don't like is a 'timmy in disguise'? Grow up.

01 Feb 2013 08:35:34
just a few comments,
I don't know why so many rangers fans want to see coisty sacked or to walk away? He manager at the hardest time in the clubs history and last season we only fell apart once it was becoming clear we would be going into admin, so players heads where obv elsewheres. he's now got a job of getting us promoted back to the spl and is comfortably sitting top of the league (all be it Div 3) but he can't possibly be any higher so he's done as good as. . he's also bringing through good young talent that we are all praising such as macleod, aird, mckay and crawford. and as for ferguson and boyd coming back I would have them any day boyd would score a rediculas amount of goals in this league and ferguson is the type of person we need when it comes to the poor performances from the likes of black, sandaza and other so called senior players. I say we get behind coisty and the gers and lets see what happens player wise

A goldfish could manage a team to win div 3 mate you should not have dropped any points at all no way tactically crap decisions crap excuses crap the guy is not a manager across the city as much as it hurts me to say it but Lennon is a good manager beating Barcelona is as good as it comes last 16 of champs league we've only been there once good on strachan picking Lee Wallace sees a footballer si he does

1). I take it that is why Celtic drew with Arbroath 1-1 and scraped a 1-0 win in the replay and lost to St Mirren in the League Cup semi-finals? Lennon got a fluke result against Barca with only 11% possession in the game. Played them off the park right? Rangers are playing with mainly a team of kids who weren't on first team duty last season so I think they are doing OK. As has been said, it is the so-called experienced players who need booted out (Sandaza, Black, Kyle).

@2 the team is not mainly made up of kids. Why don't you check out the team for each game this season you will see that it isn't filled with kids. As for Ally he isn't good enough and it's easy to win division 3 against part timers. The wage bill is £8m a year and he was able to sign Templeton for £800k what other team in Div 3 was able to do that? Rangers should be hammering teams at Ibrox but we constantly struggle, the football is poor to watch and why does McCoist play 1 up front at home in Div 3?. He isn't the man to take us forward and I can't see a Rangers team under McCoist winning the SPL or whatever it's called when we finally get there.

@3 you beat me to it, I was going to say the same thing

Alexander, Cribari, Perry, Wallace, Hutton, Black, Little, Templeton, Sheils, Sandancer - not kids

The problem is the way that the manager has them playing, apart from our set up and tactics, we play at a very slow pace and can't get out of first gear, quality of passing is poor and our performances through end of december and january were bad
1-1 montrose
0-1 P'head
4-2 Berwick
1-1 Elgin
1-3 Annan
0-1 Q park

there is room for lots of improvement in all of those performances

JG

3). I've already said that I think Ally should go as he is not good enough so I was referring to the players. I think you'll find that Perry, Hegarty, Crawford, McKay, McLeod & Hutton have all played in quite a number of games - only Hutton broke through (briefly) last season. The point is this is an entirely different team from last season when we would have won the SPL again but for the financial off-pitch distractions.

The average age of the rangers first eleven is two years older than the Celtic first eleven. The names and ages were posted in here months ago and ed039 agreed.
I thought the excuse of young boys was long gone. Ally is a duff manager. Period.

People keep saying rangers have more money to spend and they should win everytime.

Barcelona, real madrird, man u, man c, celtic, bayern munich all spend 10times more than their domestic opponents yet don't win every single game.

Personally I don't see mccoist as our long term solution, but he's probably been in the worst period of rangers history,

@7 but those other teams all play top div opponents or cl teams, huge went downriver and won 95% of games, and Gretna won 96% so if rangers wining 70% it's a huge failure on ally's part

No excuses

OP and @5 jeez mate you love your excuses don't ya! Your humungous lead last season was realed back by Celtic before financial melt down had even been mentioned! As for your youngster theory I think that the remainder of posts other than your own have tried to explain that your club is not using that many youth players, but think you are a bit too narrow minded to even see that! You just like throwing round the excuses for ally's pathetic displays as a manager (a title I am using very lightly when talking about mccoist!).
But you keep the excuses going if it makes you feel better about yourself! I bet you have already got the old "only reason rangers got beaten against Dundee united was because they didn't have their usual support cheering them on!" Yes, I bet you are chaffing at the bit to use that one aren't ya?! Lol

The team regularly plays 7 or 8 young players each week. Most of these are young Scots too. Depends what you want to call young.

@10: more like 3 or 4 players 22 or younger. Most of the team is experienced.

31 Jan 2013 23:50:00
kudos to david beckham. donates his $100k a week salary to a paris kids charity. . . fresh breath of air in the money hungry sports world. . deecee

Highligts perfectly the ill divided world we live in when a football player can afford to do such a thing,, while Beckham is to be applauded for this gesture ( and rightly so ) it's a sad reflection of the outrageous disparity that exists between the super rich and those living in abject poverty. . . rant over. .!

A piece of publicity seeking & what about image rights, signing on fees etc.

Would have real respect if he had donated his wages without any fuss but no, he decides even though he was a free agent and could sign at any time to hijack the transfer day headlines. All about Brand Beckham.

I agree it's good of him to donate to charity esp. kids but he will be coining it in for his brand Beckham getting such a prominence in yet another country. U.K. , Italy, U.S.A and now France. He knows what he is doing. His weekly salary is peanuts to him but again, good luck to him. he didn't need to make this gesture which will mean a lot to whatever charity gets the windfall. All good P. R.

Id not think for a minute he's done it for brand beckham, not everything's spin. Just accept it as a guy trying to put something back into a game that's gave him so much. A lot actual do
joe