Rangers Banter Archive April 01 2013

 

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01 Apr 2013 21:16:07
"I fully appreciate that towards the end of the campaign performances certainly dipped a little bit. "

Just read this quote from Mr McCoist. This leads me to believe that he thinks performances were acceptable at some point in the season. Which, if true, provides yet more evidence that the guy is clueless. Not once have I come away from a game this season thinking we had played particularly well.

McCoist out.

s20c

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Vs Motherwell in the league cup? Granted, not many others

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7 against Alloa?

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Motherwell I believe the performance seemed better than it actually was because of the crowd.

As for Alloa, I remember leaving the game thinking Alloa had impressed me by trying to play the game the right way, despite the scoreline.

s20c

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Ally the player - Legend
Ally the manager - woefull
Get out now before you are remembered for the wrong one

Chaps

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01 Apr 2013 18:33:41
The problem with the whole season was a very high expectation due to having the second highest paid squad in Scotland. However, if their wages were lower the expectation would be lower. Did the chief scout artificially increase the expectation? {The Ed039's Note - that's not true, if the wages had been lower expectations would have remained the same)

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Expectation would still be high, no matter the team, the wages, the manager, the owners (whoever they are) it's rangers in a pi55 poor league and set up FFS

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01 Apr 2013 18:24:32
Had to laugh when say Ally on news there. He admits the team 'dipped a bit' ----when were we up to dip?It's been rotten from the start of the season and carried on that way. He is a joker, I know, but he ain't kidding us any more.

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We've scored 75 goals in 31 games and I seem to remember quite a few games we were winning by 4 or 5

Facts don't fare well for the doom and gloom merchants

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@1 that's 2-1 average, grenta did 3-1 average without our salaries, internationals, spl-level players or fans.

embargo is an encuse, it was postponed to allow talent to be brought in

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Are you saying because we won games by 3 or 4 goals means we played well in those games?

s20c

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@2 Gretna weren't saddled by the carnival and I know I'm being a tad pedantic but it's 2. 5-1 average, not a big difference you may say but certainly goes some way to bridging the gobsmacking gulf between 2 and 3

I've never understood why what was essentially a brand new squad of players should in any way be compared to Gretna, the embargo was hardly an excuse but it's good to know that talent was brought in, here's me thinking it was, quite justifiably, panic buys


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You asked in the OP "when were we up to dip?"

The answer was when we were winning games by 3 or 4 goals, playing well is subjective, playing well enough to scud the other team is no too bad in my book

Don't ask questions if you can't take the answers

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@4 Well, you are so easily pleased mate. I think it was a rotten season and few ups to dip down from. Think you are in a minority with your cheerfulness in view of what we have seen this season.

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Saddled, carnival, are you talking about the clown's, Charlie and Ally, yet you still follow them blindly
Tam

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@4 trying to compare like with like, and gretna showed how to progress up leagues with better squad in style.

45000 fan based vs 1500? and fulltime (with murray park) vs part-time plumbers. ?

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P Team Pld W D L GF GA good Pts
1 Gretna 36 32 2 2 130 29 101 98
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1 Rangers 31 21 8 2 75 24 +51 71

so 5 games to go, need to score 50 goals to match gretna achievements.

Rangers winning on GA - but have top class goally.

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Correction gretna averages 3. 6 games to 0. 8.

nearly 4-1 on average.

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@7, and the rest while I'm here

It's not like for like, it cannot be compared, it's an absolute ridiculous notion to even try

like you say 45000 vs 1500, fulltime vs plumbers

it's the big boys vs the rest, when you really look at it you can see the parallels between the SPL and SFL3, wee team comes to Ibrox and play out their skin, give it everything and grab a draw

next week they play at home and get beat off of a team 4 or 5 places below them

I'm hardly cheerful just clearly more realistic than the rest, before the season started everyone with sense was saying it will be difficult and don't expect us to romp every game, you can't blame those people for the fact that you lot didn't listen

We've won the league at an absolute canter just like Celtic will the SPL because the rest have no consistency, they turn up for the big games

the difference is that we are the BIG game

it's hardly rocket science boys

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Do you know you are trying to compare your team with gretna?
thats GRETNA, you know off the M74.
an anvil, a cafe and 3 rabbit hutches.

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01 Apr 2013 13:57:30
wonder what green is up to am yet to hear him say anything about us winning the division not like him u usally can't keep i'm quiet

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02 Apr 2013 14:39:04
hes away spending his bonus

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01 Apr 2013 11:35:04
Would a gesture of goodwill not reflect well on the Club if we were to offer to play Dunfermline with both sides sharing the gate for much needed income. Or has Charlie boy not got any interest in developing some cameraderie towards others.
Maybe the Supporters organisations will be more keen to build bridges with others suffering in a spirit of good relations

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Judging by the disagrees there's no mood for good will or help for Masterton's Dunfermline. Any cash raised, Masterton or SDM could pay more from their pockets but won't.

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"Share gates for much needed income"? Whilat we are losing money we aren't in desperate position where we need to have a friendly to keep us afloat.

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Masterton will give you the club for £1. But you will have to take on the debts. £8.5m is owed to Masterton.

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I agree with 1). i'm a Tim and somebody mentioned it on the Celtic page, maybe make a donation, call it the Jock Stein donation. Scotland only have around 16 clubs of a decent standard and Dunfermline are one of them, so keeping their club alive is important for the game as a whole. However, the idea of giving Masterton any sizeable donation after his involvement with SDM and his other actions while at BoS put me right off it. Catch 22.

G93

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Is 4) an april fool, 16 clubs of a decent standard in Scotland, yeah you don't catch us out with that one.

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Am not sure Masterton will have any influence fancy he's 8. 5 light as of last week

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@5 considering this is Scotland we are talking about yes I'm sure most who aren't negative and narrow-minded would agree that the SPL clubs, Morton, Partick, Dunfermline and The Rangers in a year or 2 and maybe one or 2 others are of a DECENT standard within SCOTTISH football and are able to be competitive within our game.

G93

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01 Apr 2013 09:49:44
Just a bit of easter banter.

If the Rangers forward line visited a brothel, does anyone think any of them would score.

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Are you the April fool? PB

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Well they have plenty of time and money so probably yes.

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Have a look at goals for rangers have done well

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01 Apr 2013 07:56:10
Wondering if Mr Green enjoyed his day out watching football yesterday?A lot better stuff than he's been seeing lately I hate to say.

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Mirror reports PM thinking about old firm in English league. so greens letter to PM worked. {Ed001's Note - have you not seen the date? *rolls eyes*}

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Ed try an keep up to date lol it was all over yesterday's papers. {Ed001's Note - yes, I am sure it was true then, considering the FIFA and UEFA objections to government interference in football, which would see the FA facing a European ban if they allowed the PM to make decisions. Get your heads out the clouds, the PM has no power in footie.}

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Oh I see ed, posted on 31March. by friend of jabba. so its april fool joke. but don't they get printed on 1st april? {Ed001's Note - whatever mate, I have told you why it is a load of crap, if you want to dream over something so stupid, go right ahead.}

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How long before Cameron comes out and says he never made the comments green suggests he did?
Al

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@5. Cameron is a bigger liar than CG so how would we know who was telling the truth?

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Http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/prime-minister-david-cameron-backs-1794754

Here is link ed, date is 30th March? Seems source is ex-pal of jabba?

Still april fool? {Ed001's Note - who cares? It is a load of nonsense as I have explained to you. UEFA and FIFA do not allow governmental interference in football. Oh, and by the way, the Mirror is the worst rag for football news other than the Metro. They just make it up constantly, so only a fool would believe anything in it, even the date.....}

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@6, so we now take what a tabloid says as the truth?
Al

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No independance for scotland i'd rather have cameron any day

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001 **** {Ed001's Note - but at least I am not dumb enough to believe the bull in the papers, muppet!}

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02 Apr 2013 01:01:19
Apparently he was there to put in an offer for the League Cup!

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01 Apr 2013 01:59:55
No one should be talking about new managers, fair enough Ally hasn't had the greatest season, but he doesn't have a great squad and the resources and restrictions cast over us doesn't make it any easier for him. The players need a right good kick up the arse, because most of them don't realise what team they are playing for. Start judging Ally next season when he has had time to get the team sorted and get a squad together that he wants to manage. We are all in the climb back to the top together. WATP

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Open your eyes! The buck stops with the manager who is clearly clueless. U r in denial and I just wonder if you are a genuine Rangers fan or a Celtic fan who is at it?

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? 10x wage bill of league rivals, against semi-professionals and part-times, 40,000 fans (plus thier incomes). ?

wake up - it was a cake walk and they still struggled.

How will they compete against CL or EPL opposition if getting beat by part-times. alley has not won a single cup. lost in all of them.

he a loser as a manager.

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Cannot believe points in post, 1. does not have a great squad, how many of the dumplings were his signings? 2. Resources, compare to others in league? 3. Kick players up the arse, Ally's job? We could add team selections, one up front, inane substitutions etc, etc. We cannot go on excusing him on basis of being a Ger's legend, he always will be but must step back from this role.

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Ally's a Jonah. He sunk the oldco and is sinking the newco.

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Was mince in the spl, at one stage old co were 15 points ahead! We even cut it down to 7 point. Think before oldco got the -10. The rangers need moved up a division, causes 18 bottom teir will be the end of the road IMO.

Just think green's bonus alone would sign you maybe 2 division 1 players! It's like D&P all over again the amount of money green & co are taking!

Lenny

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I don't think celtic would have it easy in lower divisions either when you saw how arbroath etc played against them

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@6 We wouldn't have been dumb enough to sign average SPL players and flops, if your team was in the group we had in the champions league you would have lost double figures every game.

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@1 Naw man, no Celtic supporter would use those initial's
Tam

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01 Apr 2013 01:01:50
Just like to congratulate Ally, Ian, Kenny, the players and back room staff on our 55th League title. A tremendous effort considering where we were a matter of hors before the league started an illegal signing ban, 22 players leaving, only seven players registered, new owners etc.

Sure it has not been pretty, which was no ones fault but circumstances. I look forward as I am sure most true Rangers supporters do to next season when although still handicapped by the signing embargo Ally will lift the next division title with an improved squad and better on field performances, enhanced by maybe a couple of good signings in January. Will be good to see how Ally compares when their is a level playing field.

Ozzie Al

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Talk about level playing field. you ran out of time to register before your first competitive game, then the red carpet gets rolled out. yet its still complain after complain. its not our fault because we are the people rubbish.

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No complaining from me son. It is you that sounds upset. What's up with you.

Ozzie Al

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"Will be good to see how Ally compares when their is a level playing field. "

Please tell me this is an attempt at an April Fool's?

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If you consider SFL 3 a title shows you how low you have really went in the last year mate.

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Stay out the sun. every country has one league champion team. lower division titles are not counted. that is obvious. the rangers have just dropped 22 points to people who have a job all week. if I was you I would accept all of this and move on quietly to avoid further embarassment. very, very stupid post.

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01 Apr 2013 15:44:10
Ozzie Al you obviously havnae been at Ibrox aw year & just watch highlights from Aussie tv. level playing field---- our goalkeeping coach earns more than some of the part time teams we play. I speak as an ST holder who actually watches the bears. They have been rank all season no excuses.

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N1 we never ran out of time the sfa fecked about and fecked about trying there damdest to leave rangers with no time to get players well we are now up and running and will always survive not everyone can say the same as a lotof people will see

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N7 if you didn't run out of time why the need for an emergency registration to play the game. as I have said all along, its always someone else fault. then again you can't go wrong, as far as you are concerned everything is the same. must be great being in that bubble.

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@5. where in my post did I mention Championship? I said a league title, which it is. recognised by the SFL. 55 and counting. You must really be a very lonely sad little individual, with extremely poor reading and literacy skills. Go sulk with your many friends. Not that you will have many.

Ozzie Al

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N8 they told us 36 hours before kick of they had disided to allow us to play in 3rd div we had 6 players registered to play they realised without us football in scotland was doomed thus extention to bring players in mccoist had know option but to sign the duds that won league at a canter

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01 Apr 2013 00:19:46
so what's happening re the naming of Ibrox?

Can no-one think of something apprppriate, now we have won the title surely the next step is to get the new name introduced pronto.

Wee Bill

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What about the Tommyblue ego arena? It might not be bursting at the seams every week but it will be bigger than the current stadium. :)

Please don't bury the thread because of my reply, it's a fair enough question Wee Bill asked.

Gaz

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And Murray park. Noticed in the photo yesterday it's still got the name on the entrance. Why the delay?

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Why the rush?

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01 Apr 2013 22:20:04
, aww were to start gazzy, yet again u spout, more spouting than the stranded whale at oban, firstly how remarkably childlike to point out that I left a letter Lfrom onieills name, god almighty,! And then you tell us of a interview you seen some time ago in the distant past, tell me gazzy, how do you know the director wasn't telling porkies?, many directors do you know, and if I'm not mistaken celtics told quite a few?, now why would you tell us a motivational speech, and then not want to speak of the return game?, do we just listen to your anti rangers ramblings?, please don't question me on spelling, I will never lose that one, and, now try andd get this gazzy, I have a job to do, I don't disappear, I work, have you got that, its a shame you tried to make out I ran away, and really quite childish, I don't want to comment on everything sunshine, do u understand,, andp I'm still laughing at the oniell/director nonsense, I heard walter once told a gers cleaner we were gona murder celtic one day,, buti would never write such drivvle, now let's see you try again kid, tommyblue, and please get ureself a day out xx

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Tommy this is the last time I'm acknowledging your somewhat bizarre garbage till you call me Gaz, if you don't do it, don't reply or expect to be blanked.

"Please don't question me on spelling, I will never lose that one. " Coming from the very same paragraph as "Lfrom, andd, andp, oniell (that time you got the double L but clearly the strain made you forget the apostrophe and mix up the I and E), gona, buti, drivvle, ureself. " Priceless, truly priceless.

Yes you are indeed the Stephen Fry of Rangers Banter.

Gaz

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02 Apr 2013 13:00:52
ok gaz, that make you feel better m8?. Now firstly, if you have another look, you will see that I never wrote lfrom, I obviously was pointing out the missing letter L, and then the word from,, and please m8 are you really attempting to make out I can't spell the word and?, to all other grown ups, these were simply typos, I suffer from arthritis so sometimes my hands aren't quite steady, surely you don't want to win points due to typos,? I will give you the drivel bit, I was typing in a hurry, it happens you know, however as I said, I m surprised at the bitterness of your post and the constant calling of names, that will not make you corect,, do not simply imply someone is stupidm nor arrogant when you post things they don't agree with, and believe me the oniell peice was total nonsense,, do u relly believe that the vast majority of football managers aren't capable of massive motivational speeches,?, and then to say that the next game had nothing to do with it? Didn't you get what I was saying? Simply that he must have made virtually the same speech as before, but it never worked, therefore your post was worthless, ttthhannkkksss, gaz, tommyblue

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02 Apr 2013 13:03:31
Gaz the words gona and other shortenings are known as text speak, get someone young to explain tb

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Of course a lot of them were typos Tommy and I was aware of that, I never did say you were stupid but your quote was just screaming to be analysed, you must accept that lol.

There is not one "inspirer" in history with a one hundred percent record, that shouldn't even need saying. Bonaparte, Churchill, George Washington all had their bad days at the office so to speak. But in this interview a Celtic director (it may well be from Martin O'Neill Man and bhoy, check it on IMDB) said that he met him just prior to kick off and unlike his usual formal stance ("Rangers are the benchmark") came out and said Celtic would thrash them. This wasn't hearsay, a rumour passed around second or third hand, the guy he said it to reiterated the quote in front of a camera. It was 3-0 after 11 minutes Tommy, he obviously knew they were chomping at the bit as managers sometimes recognise and I would imagine his motivation helped in that.

Similarly, Larsson and Hartson are both quoted on saying his pre-game speech at Anfield, when they won 2-0 in 2003 was awe-inspiring. Sure it doesn't work every time but the original post I made was to a guy who mocked him being a great motivator because of where Sunderland were, in money terms Sunderland are just about where they should be, a few clubs below them have spent more, a few clubs above them have spent less. Seb Larsson has been singing his praises as a motivator since he was sacked too.

But it is churlish to say someone isn't a good motivator because they lose other games, 6-2 one team, 5-1 the other, I can think of worse reversals of fortune easily in successive games. O'Neill always said during his time at Parkhead that Celtic were punching above their weight, I'm sure he didn't mean domestically, I presume he was talking about in Europe verse the likes of Juventus, Porto, Liverpool, Barcelona. Some of that must come from a manager who gets the most out of his players, ie motivates them.

I appreciate you calling me Gaz, cheers.

Gaz

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