Rangers Banter Archive September 19 2012
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19 Sep 2012 22:07:17
I'm sensing so much pain,frustration and despair here fellow bears.come on........group hug.now......thats much better.
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I see mr green at it again rangers get knocked out the rams and the first thing green does is to blame the sfa spl and scotland is a joke the guy is a fool and people need 2 wake up to that now he wants a share issue why because he does not have money and time is running out b4 he gets found out
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Nah mate think you're confused, There's 3 billionaires in the wings ready to put money into Ibrox.
And him and Imran Ahmed are gonna find even more big investors from the land of plenty in the next few days.
And Charlie wouldnae lie would he?
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19 Sep 2012 21:42:20
1st Champions League game over 1 point 9 more than most on here predicted for entire campaign) sitting 3rd ( due to alphabet)...not a bad start for a wishy washy SPHELL team in the big competition....not expecting any points from next 2 games against Barca but oh the joys of watching good football as opposed to div3 and Ramsden cup...JohnnyG
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Benfica's biggest concern was an attempt on goal from the half way line by commons. Don't think the rest of their group have anything to worry about.
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Next two games wont be just against barca...spartak next then barca double header.
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It's not the winning. It's taking part!
Liah Smit
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Celtic display last night was shocking 1 shot at goal tells you everything about lemmons players he bought totally out of their depth
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Yous were ****e. Boring to watch - I thought Celtic always play free flowing attacking football? If you are happy with that good for you.
We are not even on the same planet anymore before you mention QoS game. No comparison.
J
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How much is a draw worth financially? A draw against a far superior team is not a bad result.
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Just under half a million for a draw
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19 Sep 2012 21:01:04
At the beginning of the season I had
bears tell me with what we had we
would finish second in SPL, me lucky
to finish 7th or above.
Only 2 players last night Wallace and
Jig would have started last season.
Yet we have a good team so what is
problem.
A team does not play punt football if it 5 days a week practises passing football.
the team has only one leader, only Jig
was trying to motivate, no one else looked
as if they knew how.
10 men against 11 need an outball,
12 mins to go, take off your only one
Mckay (He can be as good as durrant)
Sandoza poor yet needs ball at feet, Sheils
looks scared, Black has potential but
holding not attacking midfielder, Mckay
needs freedom, Wallace looks lost.
That was only last night. Ally is a
a hero and a legand and that to me
is the problem. They need a manager
player relationship to kick ass and
they will become a team. when that
team gels they will be good team.
The world of sport is full of average players
, sportsman and athletes who are great
coaches. Smith, Ferguson, Stein.
See it how it is bear.
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Look guys,we are where we are, but did you see the "Champeens"? I thought Benfica were absolutely rank, but the Green and Greys could'nt muster one direct shot, and were reduced to shouting for penalties when Forrest fell over his own shoulders...also great to see an unitimidated, unbiased ref book the ESPEELL's serial cloggers, Broon Geezabbeery, and Wanjama for what they routinely do every Saturday...we are murder, but they are our Champeens, aren't they? Thought that was Sellik's best chance of a win, and, like us , they did'nt....As Kate Bush would say, December will be Magic!
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Really. Celtic play in a top level game against a top level team and get a credible point and this is your reaction. You need take a look at yourself and take of your blue blinkers. Pathetic.
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To the last post celtic fan here i watched both games last night and tonight and i cant believe you are talking about the celtic game ! you were beaten by queen of the south and with your first team (that is by far the best in your league and the two above) you run out of steam and ideas and you guys are the full time club! the buck stops with the manager i'm afraid to get out of the leagues and postion you are in you need a seasoned manager. we drew with a good side and got a good point in the champions league and although we are not in the best of form we are leaps nd bounds in front of you guys!
by the way any come backs are welcome and my name is Chalky bhoy!!
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What is the above text all about cetic i couldnt care less about them or their champions league i do care about rangers and let give ally a few more games it was a very bad result but it is a diddy cup who cares about it we must win the third division by any means and then the second and then the first then we can decide if we want to join the spl but lets calm down and see what happens over next month or so we are a third division team with a transfer ban who would want to manage us
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No 1 as brian ferry would say ... your just a jealous guy
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U would think after that result last night u would have the sense to just say nowt and not make a muppet of yourself. but i might as well have a go u say december will be good i think so 2 celtic will prob be heading into europa league whitch will be fine. on the other hand fat sallys team will be out all cups and still serching for that away win lol
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This would be the same benfica mourinho said are darkhorses for the tournament & the same benfica who knocked man utd out last year, aye they are rank, nearly as bad as queen of south eh? L1888
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Smith , Ferguson , Stein . Are you on something , do you know anything about football . Think even Sir Cardigan would be embarrassed with that statement.......DH
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Hhmmm Celtic draw against a club that just sold 2 players for 70 mill and have a go at us when you just lost to qos where you have at least triple the money if not more. Did you listen to cg before you posted that? Cause his plans for distracting yous of how bad yous are is working, talking about Celtic how obsess are you eh? We had our second best team out there with our injuries and all had there first game in cl and got a draw with good fight.... Where as yous had your first in losing out on a cup(but ally has so much expirence in that) if yous are the same club then that has to be the worst loss in your history(well there is a lot to debate on a couple of games you played).
Also it seemed that qos filled ibroke for yous as no one showed up eh is that a record in Scotland as well?
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This is a rangers site...so you can't believe I'm talking about Celtic? well why are you on our site? We know where we are mate, and exactly what we have to do....will our league travails be any more painful for us than your Champions league ordeal will be for you?Sure you've got loads to discuss with your fellow bhoyze on your own site, so off you go.
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8. spot on. Trying to sneak (sir lol) watty wan plan into the top drawer there.
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// i do care about rangers and let give ally a few more games it was a very bad result but it is a diddy cup who cares about it we must win the third division by any means and then the second and then the first then we can decide if we want to join the spl but lets calm down and see what happens over next month or so we are a third division team with a transfer ban who would want to manage us //
A diddy cup with diddy teams playing in it? If the rate you have started at keeps going you will not win promotion and will struggle in any play offs you may get into. And don't worry, if you do manage to win promotion you'll be back in the top league in no time as the SFA have already said they'll charge ahead with league reconstruction to get you lot back in the top league more quickly! But let's not go there, because they couldn't possibly be bending over backwards for you, could they? Because you have the idea "no one likes you........"
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@4 I do dispair.
"we must win the third division by any means". Is winning by any means not what got your old team into trouble?
If that was not a bad enough statement you then came out with "decide if we want to join the spl". So you would be quite happy to rely on a cup win alone to gain entry to a European cometition. Mad.
Al(ly must stay)
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A Diddy cup with diddy teams does that mean that The Rangers fall into that bracket also as they played in the diddy cup.
Ian
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@10: but not a site solely for Rangers fans.
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19 Sep 2012 20:55:56
I know we shouldn't be looking for excuses for our poor results, but here are some anyway. 3 minutes injury time goal scored 3. 30 seconds in. Goal was clearly offside. Can't remember big guy that scored winning penalty but he shouldn't have been on pitch to take it. Was booked then 5 minutes later takes Wallace out as he's running through clearly another booking just 3 minutes from end of extra time.
I'm not asking for preferential treatment just asking to be treated same as the rest. I go to most games and every game the same decisions by ref are sometimes unbelievable.
Lets all stick by Ally we must give him till new year then lets see where we are
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You know that the injury time held up is a minimum?
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Mate, he's had ample time....and his tactics are simply baffling....a decent manager last season would have run Celtic to the wire, 10 points off or not....no man's bigger than the club, he;s got to step down.
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Wallace just collapsed in a heap. Never a second booking. rangers missed 2 penalties so I would say there out because they arnt good enough.
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Maybe now you will realise what celtic and the rest of the spl have been feeling for the last 50 years watching your lot getting away with this every week...gaz
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OP , words fail me get a grip man at least be humble enough to admit your football team are rank rotten.....Stevie
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19 Sep 2012 20:30:09
we had mr whyte. then mr green. mr black in midfield. all we need is me pink in, and we will have the cast of reservoir dogs. rite now supporting rangers, i feel like the cop who got his ear cut off. the players like ally, they dont respect him. mccall it is i think.
by mr orange
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And if u added neil lennons to n's together u wud have lemon
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It will be a long long time before your in the pink
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19 Sep 2012 20:21:09
as a gers fan livivmg in london. i occasionally tune into the scottish radio fone ins , and can hear how my fellow bears are hurting. i think the only consolotion about being hounded into the league we are in, was to try and beat the spl attendences combined each week, which we are doing. and to blow teams away by ten goals, which we are inexplicably not doing.
however is it not time we got real resolution and justice, for us, and scottish football. i am mot expert, but my understanding is the people who have done all the so called illegal stuff. Are no in fact the poeple who are suffering or punished. we keep here about more and more punishments, and people haing a go at us. When the ones responsable for all this are no longer at the club
My understanding is it was primarily murry and whyte to blame, for all the shenanigans, and what has happened to our club
I have heard rumours, but can anyone tell me if anyone is going after any of these two guys. I cannot believe they have got away with what they have done. stop punishing us, and go get the people who are responsible for all this. does anyone know if this is being done?
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Go after whom exactly?
It doesn't seem to be individuals who were entirely to blame at Ibrox, financial corruption seemed to be the order of the day over successive regimes.
James Larkin
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James good scottish name (Do you vote SNP). HMRC have actually stated on record, in print, that they believed liquadation was the only way to go to forward.
1) Save the club (BDO feel the same)
2) To allow HMRC to go after individuals responsible for this.
Looks like every player, manager and fan will be getting an extra tax bill.
P.S would you not prefer platetoniocs to take scotland a little further to the left.
xxxx
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19 Sep 2012 20:05:29
Ali is a LEGEND hower we bears need a Jock WAllace type get into these teams hard not p...... About that's what RAngers were like in the 60s and 70s now is the time for tough fair play take control of the game not p.... About
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Spot on Ali is a legend. The way he refused to be drafted into the Vietnam war, the courage against Frazier, the rope-a-dope vs Foreman. I presume that's who you are talking about?
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Yes
get the battle fever on
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The sad thing is Big Jock wouldn't be able to sort out half the players these days.
The foreigners especially don't care half the time and aren't too worried about having to sit in the reserves week after week... as long as the fat pay checks keep on coming.
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19 Sep 2012 18:46:52
Ok this is a big revelation for you Bears, and you won't want to hear it cause it's scary but true.....
1. It's not Ally's fault, no manager can do better.
2. Those players played the best they could last night.
3. That's the very best those guys can produce, they can't get better.
This is the level of squad you now have. The 36 top players have walked and didnt join Greens new club. Your team is now gash and cannot do better until you buy new guys.
Scary isn't it? But true.
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The two best players were injured we will see if your team bottles it when you play us Timmy.
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Everytime i think i may actualy suport a scottish club in europe i see an idiot post like this
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Really scary if true...... Because we will not get out of third div.
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Haha, man get a grip. Been at ibrox this season and seen us play well, your a joke mate.
Dtp89
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@1+2: where does the OP say they're a Celtic fan?
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@1 Play celts.And when would that be
10-15 years if your lucky.
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@1,2,4.....guess you're saying it's Ally's fault then?
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19 Sep 2012 18:14:16
no matter how bad celtic play tonight their result cant be half as bad as last night , must be the worst result i have witnessed in my lifetime by a rangers team that on paper was a far stronger team than qos could have dreamed of fielding , good luck to them in the next round
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6 people agree with you 3 have seen worse ... not very good is it lol
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19 Sep 2012 18:30:03
unbelievable how the best supporters in the world have turned against the manager they recently told us was a true ibrox legend , ok maybe not the best manager in the world but far too good and loyal a servant to the club for you lot , if he has any sense he will walk away now and keep his dignity
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We will see how long it takes you lot to turn on lennon if he has a poor CL campaign and a couple more results like St Johnstone Managers are judged on results and Allys isnt up to scratch and Lennon is a couple of defeats away from being turned on Ally will always be a legend for what he done on the park just as Dalgleish will always be a Legend at park Head for his footballing not his Managing
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No one has turned on anyone,another pathetic attempt to wind up the rangers fans.I think you will find the majority of us believe ally to be a legend for everything he achieved as a Player,however just because we don't rate him as a manager doesn't mean we have turned against him no it's because we have our club at heart and feel it would be best managed by different personnel.were it at all possible to have ally work for the club in some other role I think most fans would be quite happy,so to say we have turned against him is a disgrace,did ur lot not turn on we'd Lennon last season just before Millie game claiming he's no cut out for the job 90 mins from sack,now u all walk around licking the guys a****,like he's a hero.get ur own house on order before coming on here criticising us.
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I bought my burd the new rangers bra ... the support was crap and the t*ts keep falling out the cups ...
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Two faced post from a celtic fan. Rugby Park at half time, less than a year ago. short memories.
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@1+4: why does the OP have to be a Celtic fan? You just presume as usual when there's a good chance they're not and, if so, you've made idiots of yourselves with your unwarranted nonsense lol
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I think as always you all are confused with what the papers say compared to what the fans think. It was all the papers saying how nl should go just like how he papers where saying how you won't be liq and how whyte is a millionaire. When will yous learn, nl is miles ahead of am and has done/won more and helps the club, if nl was close to am he would have been gone along time ago but he is a great manager and you all know it but just can't admit it.
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19 Sep 2012 18:15:07
I would like your opinion on this,iam not a gers fan but here my thots,
I think rangers poor away and last nightes poor show is not mccoist fault or the players,
I think rangers have to good a squad for the standerd that is required,hoof from one end to other & rangers getting sucked in to hoof the ball,& their players cant get ball down & play football,
I also think that peoples opinion of a player in sfl not having spl experiance,a championship not having epl,european etc,who at ibrox has sfl 3 experiance,hence my point,yous have the rong horse for the course,not a managemant or player problem as such.
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Yep mate totally agree with you it's like putting a Ferrari in a stock car race it would be mince
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So where did qots get the experience to go to ibrox and knock out a team of spl players ?? its a bit like saying goerge Micheal couldnt win a karaoke
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19 Sep 2012 16:52:03
Surely its time for a management change at Ibrox. Ally has done his best through difficult times but his tactics have to be questioned along with the quality of player that he has brought into the club. I would bring in Billy Davies now and try to bring a different perspective to how we should be playing football.
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Billy Davis is the man to bring us foward has done very good in England
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Don't think billy Davies would touch newco rangers with a barge pool especially with the group of players ally has signed, some of these players he has signed are a total joke, Fauré and Brazilian are 2 of the worst players I've ever seen at ibrox, black and sheils are garbage and Kevin Kyle should be released I've seen smaller baby elephants.
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Let's be realistic few qulity players want to play in Scotland. How many want to play in SFL3?
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19 Sep 2012 16:16:21
Is it really a surprise that watching division three football is not a pleasure?
Thats the way football at that level is played in this country... Get used to it
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19 Sep 2012 15:34:03
hi ed, finding a worrying pattern developing watching rangers playing in the 3rd div and our cup games, we dont look to be any more fitter than the opposition who are part time,we dont look to any more ability than the opposition and defo no more fire in our bellies than the opposition, which all brought together, makes me feel very uneasy for the long season ahead. boyblue !!
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Cahoona,s is the word boyblue
this team has no cahoona,s
and the backroom cant give them any..les
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It's cojones Les.
Figaro
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Looked it up there and both are balls thou your spelling is used more i think
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19 Sep 2012 15:09:50
Well it's a double edge sword now for the cheeky chappie, does he walk away of his own accord or does he get told to walk away, either way his situation is untenable.
James Larkin
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Make no mistake about it, his footballing failures last season brought the whole house of cards down. Ending 140 years and Rangers 1872.
This Newco venture, without business restructuring and redundancies is a fragile sinkhole for cash..... Ally's footballing failures ends revenue streams. It's all about Money and McCoist doesn't make economic sense.
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Spot on ,it's funny old world and ally's failings have ended a once great club,from legend to loser in 2 seasons
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So it was Allys fault that everything went wrong last season. He was not backed in the transfer window, must be his fault too.
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19 Sep 2012 15:01:27
This is my point of view Bears. Im behind
Ally every step of the way until the end of
the season. Ive posted before, if he doesnt
get us into div2 then his position needs looked at.
At the mo, and there is a lot of people
saying it. We have a new team out there.
They have had to run before they've learned
to walk. There is a lot of youngsters
in that team who, without a doubt will
be struggling with this league. They need
all the support they can get from us!
I dont give to flying f*cks about the cups.
The cups are a bonus if won but apart
from that an unwanted distraction in this
team building process. The fans getting
on the teams back and calling for Allys
head is not going to get us anywhere!
By doing this we are only heaping MORE
pressure on them. At least if they know
we're behind them no matter what then
it leaves them to focus on gelling and getting
back up there! It will click Bears, we will
win this league, but we need to be behind
them 100% As i said if we fail in promotion
then its time up for Ally. RTID
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Almost agree with you - cups, not too bothered but I'll give Ally till the end of the year, by that time we'll know if he's good enough in this division. If we're not top or 2nd by then get rid of him and still gives a new manager time to retrieve the league.
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Ally whilst I agree you are a true Ranger at heart and were a great striker and fantastic entertainer on Question of Sport.... There is no way in a hundred years that you are any use at all at posting on Rumours sites, please leave that to us the fans... george
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I think Ally should be known as The Snowman . You wake up in the morning hoping he's still there.......DH
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Disagree. You're very wrong my friend.
He's not competent. That won't change. You want to go soft. WRONG. Ally needs replacing ASAP. The longer we wait the more difficult it will be for us. We need a hard man in there and the players need jolted out of their slumbers.
It's time for harsh reality and sackings for failure. Ally is steeped in failure.
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He cannot get the chance to not get us into div 2 there is enough doubt there now to stop the bus and let ally off. one of the best training grounds in britain money no object facilities,one on one coaching,one on one fitness training in the lap of luxury the adulation of thousands apon thousands of fans the chance to further there future career,s
then a football match to play against players with bigger cahoonas than them and nothing, zilch, ride all not once twice but several times enough is enough...les
ask yourself this describe rangers style of play? answer me that what style have they been working to?.....les
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Well said mate. This time last year I would have bet my left ball on Lennon getting sacked, then look how things changed so much. Have faith bears. Remember loyalty it what we stand for.
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Look, I've been battling you soft guys for months now. We need a radical step change if CGs new venture is to survive. Not a slow gradual progress over several months.
Ally has been the footballing problem since he took over at oldco and now same again at Newco. Radical performance step change please or no more cash from me.
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McCoist lacks authority. I get the feeling that the players, when going into the changing room at half time, don't even fear a McCoist rollicking.
As I said before, I'd love to just see McCoist explode in anger at his players, give them what for infront of the fans. At least then we'd know he has a bit of fight in him.
How many times have we watched a match and saw McCoist and McDowell trying to work out what to do, they don't have a flecking clue how to change.
Also, we need somebody in that coaching staff who knows a thing or two about defending because that defence is disgraceful.
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Id rather be soft than a glory hunter. At im showing loyalty. So we get rid of Ally. Who do we bring in then? Its an even bigger mistake gettin rid of a manager during the season. The new management step in and doesnt like his playing staff. Theres nothing he can do bout it. We wouldnt get a replacement so Allys staying unfortunately for u! Rtid
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Ally's bad but foot in house mouth chuckie is worse ,lol 25 year contract,if ally goes I will follow him and other classic quotes 2 numerous to mention
It's better than Michael mcintyres comedy roadshow
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A bigger mistake getting rid of a manager during a season?
Tell that to my mates that support Chelsea. From keech to Champions of Europe in a metter of months!
And Ally ain't even AVB.
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Must b that coaching course.avb and ally went to same one
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Agree with comment No9. Who the f*ck No7 think he's talking to? "soft touch".. So loyal people who have faith are soft?
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@10: root canal treatment is better than McIntyre's comedy.
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@.11. The difference with Chelsea my friend is they didnt have a transfer embargo in place and had shed loads of money to make a difference
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OP, I don't get your logic that cup games are a distraction to the team building process. Surely playing as many games as possible is the only team building process a team needs. One of the early excuses for the poor performances was that the team had no preseason games to prepare, but now non-league games are a distraction?
Cup games also bring in more money, which the club needs. Remember 30,000 people have already paid up front for the league games.
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19 Sep 2012 14:26:34
Ally's tactical analysis of a game is as bad as his management ability. After the Peterheid and Annan games, Ally states that the reason we did not win was that we "lacked urgency" and that we needed to "move the ball quicker".
What a load of Furkin Pash Ally. Firstly we should not spend entire games pumping long balls into a penalty box which is being defended by tall scottish players who pure lap that type of football up.
I actually feel sorry for some of the players as they're obviously following what Ally thinks are tactics.
I'm sick fed up of watching ma team unable to keep the ball for longer than 10 seconds if we're lucky.
If we kept the ball on the ground and kept a hold of the ball, these teams would soon tire and become demoralised.
It aint rocket science Ally although sadly you just don't seem to get it. I adored you as a player but I'm afraid your times up.
Larry
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Players seem to lack the confidence to take on opposing players - anyone comes near them the ball gets pased back or lumped up the park - Black likes to pirouette in midfield before passing it back, reminds me of Paul McStay.
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Ian Black reminds you of Paul McStay?? What are you on?
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WTF Black reminds you of Paul Mcstay . Are you serious . Don't you mean he's more like wee Barry Sideways.........DH
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Ally must stay,25 year contract was promised,sign him up he is pure comedy gold,the only thing funnier is waiting for chuckie the clowns latest statement
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You obviously know another Paul McStay? Not the one with over 75caps, 3 major international tournements, Scotlands young player and player of the year, numerous domestic honours and who had Liverpool, Juventus and Sampdoria after his signature? Surely you cant be comparing this world class performer with an ex ICT and Hearts player now playing in Scots Div 3? Thats just too silly.
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19 Sep 2012 13:46:47
I love Ally McCoist with all my heart he is a Rangers legend and of my boyhood heroes but as manger of Rangers he isn't the man to take us forward he has had long enough at the helm its time for him to move for the greater cause and get someone else in
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I want to give him till the end of the year but I have to agree that he's not learned from his mistakes.
JMG
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19 Sep 2012 13:45:25
Well this is going to get interesting, two men shackled to garbage throw-away statements that a number of you ate up like they were the ultimate pearls of wisdom.
One one side Charles Green saying he will follow McCoist out the door the day he has to sack him. I'm presuming the twenty five year contract talks are on hold.
And on the other Ally stating for all to hear that "WE DON'T DO WALKING AWAY."
Green cant sack him, Ally cant leave without someone seriously losing face. Or could it be they were just nonsense statements then and nonsense statements now?
Green's was the more calculated of the two as he presumed, at this level, for the foreseeable future, that McCoist was up to the job, especially when providing him with a squad that is the second best paid in Scotland.
So which is the preferred option guys. An owner who reneges on promises or another Rangers mantra as dead as the dodo inside nine months?
It could of course be that they were both muttering what you wanted to hear and show yet again how easily led you are by any individual who puts one of those ties around their neck.
What about trying this as mantra 10,789. If it sounds like pandering crap then it probably is pandering crap.
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Pandering crap indeed....what about Celtic mantra 546"we will won't lose an away group stage game"?...or how about "Celtic don't have a sectarian issue"?, how many years will you give Lennon on his next contract?, as he only won the league against a demoralised team managed by an incompetent manager who were docked 10 points.We're in a new world, we'll have to get on with it, you lot concentrate on "dominating"the league with a team that proves how mediocre you were and how knackered we were last season.
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Oh dear the bitter bears are showing thier true colours now,we the Champions great supporters have been telling/warning you about Sally and chuckie but you bears know best,you wanted them,you got them and you dont do walking away so you are stuck with them. I for one am p***ing myself laughing at you
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@2: what's the OP got to do with Celtic?
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2) Lennon's next contract wont be 25 years, nor will Lawwell or anyone else go out on a limb saying they will quit the day they have to sack him. Simply put, they wouldn't be daft enough to say it and we wouldn't be daft enough to believe it.
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@2 I think you need a good look at what a mantra is. Ordinarily they are oft repeated sentiments by the many, considering I have never heard the unbeaten away group one IT AINT A MANTRA!
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To No 4 - nothing at all but the assumption on the part of the denizens of this site is that anyhone who expresses views they dont like is ipso facto a Celtic supporter.
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19 Sep 2012 13:10:25
wonder what odds you would have got on the old firm both getting beat this week?
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Celtic havnt been beat yet.
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19 Sep 2012 12:48:07
What really worries me is sandaza was allys number 1 signing target back January when we were still in the SPL, ally your useless, Ian black shocking signing, a kid on hard man.
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Ally's signings at oldco were dire.
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Ally can't tell a player and all these foreigners he's brought in have been gash so far.
He can't motivate either.
And he's utterly useless at tactics.
And he will never - repeat - NEVER BE A RANGERS QUALITY MANAGER.
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19 Sep 2012 12:31:49
think you are all a joke the ones calling for Ally's head. new team, new players, it doesnt just click straight away. yes results aint going how we would all like but the players we have should take a look at them selves. in time I think it will work. we have enough time lets face it. Ally picks the players, the best he has at his disposal. I play for a team, we won the treble last yr, and we got beat 7-4 last week, sitting 4th in our league. Now that game we lost wasnt the managments fault he picked what he had. it was simply the players. I have never understood why managers get sacked and players get away scot free. if your not up for the game no matter whos in charge then you simply should not be playing football. most will disagree but its true. give Ally the time and we will come good. Stop getting the axe out for his head so soon.
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On the basis of your argument Sally should be sacked coz he does f*%k all! The players dae it all.
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19 Sep 2012 12:15:01
Queen of the South are in FIFA 14!
Excellent news
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19 Sep 2012 11:55:10
If ally has any real love for rangers he has to walk away he must know he is not up to the job.he said this is not a wake up call this worries me what will it take to waken him up ffs we can't even win the ramsdens cup how bad is that i dread the visit from Motherwell .
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There's no chance (just now) ally will leave. It's still early for the rangers but your main goal must be to get out of that league this year no questions. If he fails at that then I believe he will go.
Look at NL, he was ready to go when we drew 3-3 at killie.
Mccosit got lucky last year with the whole whyte and administration saga now it's sink or swim time but as I say the pressure is on to win that league...
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Regret it but I couldn't argue with a word of that. Green now has a big decision to make, go with the share issue with Ally as manager or without Ally... Our greatest ever goalscorer and our worst ever manager.
Would folk be more likely to invest money if say Stuart McCall was boss? On reflection I would guess they would.
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I said it several months ago...... Swap McCoist with McColl and watch Rangers prosper and Motherwell fade away.
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19 Sep 2012 11:53:44
what is a succesful season this year,me personally i would say promotion in a comfortable manner,dont care about cups as for next season i would say promotion in a comfortable manner again,calm down people we knew there was bad times ahead and there is going to be more
i do think ally should have got good youngsters in tho instead of people like kyle n sandaza but time will tell
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I think a good year would be to win this league by thirty
oints imcluding a few 10 plus goals. agree with second point tho, shudve brought in younger guys from first division who know these type grounds and can scrap wins out
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Well said. In retrospect this was a Second Division Team beating a Third Division Team and they needed penalties to do it.
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You couldnt beat guys who are on fifty quid a week on saturday,so dont hide behind saying Qots are a division above.
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Ffs thats funny
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19 Sep 2012 11:46:22
Ok so it's the cold light of day and emotions have cooled down. Level headedness returns, but seriously McCoist is a liability and needs to resign.
It's no longer a case of riding it out to better times. Of fronting up. McCoist is not competent.
He needs to resign and go far away from the club and let a new hard fighter come in to get us through these dire leagues.
Big Eck McLeish comes to mind. I know, he's a shamed EBT man but needs necessitate it.
Every lingering day McCoist hangs on is bad for our chances of progression. He's had long enough, all last season now this.
Clean start, get rid of everybody from old club. Including Jardine sitting in the big Hoose taking a salary for what?
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Ally inherited a £25m squad of champions from Walter. If he had got into group stages of CL as per previous 3 years, Craig Whyte would still be owner, everything would be roses, the squad wouldn't have walked away and we would all be in blissfully ignorance of the magnitude of debt. Gordon Smith even said the big issue plummeting us into administration was Ally's failures to win on the field.
Ally is a Jonah.
Bye bye son you've cost us dearly. My seat will be a bare blue until you go. I'm voting with my feet and hitting CG in the purse till common sense prevails.
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Agreed. Ally needs to go right now.
No more last chances.
He has the second most expensive squad in Scottish football. The best facilities in Scotland and the biggest fans and still he cannot win against part time footballers.
It cannot go on!
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McOist not a liability but not the man for this task. He should be offered a prominent position as he did not do walking away when a lot of others would have. He has given his all, including loss of salary, so all that has to count for something if loyalty is to mean anything. That said, he is not a great manager and should move over. One of WS few judgement errors (and I tend to follow Celtic so this is not a pop at anyone but an honest comment)
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19 Sep 2012 11:43:39
!!!!!!!
Mcoist has been sacked!
If carlsberg did ,this would probably be the best.has ally signed that big contract yet?if so,only 24 half years to go.p.s how many want to buy a share with mcoist and green at the helm.(money wasted me think) hail hail rusty the tim
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19 Sep 2012 11:35:42
Yous maybe be out the cup but look on the bright side your Gaelics come on a ton......DH
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19 Sep 2012 11:08:02
with ally on his way out now..just a matter of time
this a list of would be mangers
stuart mccoll...would improve this team i think
terry butcher....more of the same i,m affraid
jim jeffries......more of the same
jimmy caulderwood.....no better than what we have
derek mcinnes....would improve this side but taking a big chance
derek adams.... up and coming young manager seen it done it and got a very good record coming out of the divisions we,ll be in a big plus is he a chance worth taking?
kenny sheilds...has a team playing good enough football on very very limited resources,and there aint resources as limited as ours
so i think the top 3 are mccoll,sheilds,adams
all could move this club forward given the same chance as mccoist who is not up to the task....it will need to be someone able to motivate this team as the signing ban has kicked in...so whats your thoughts who is given the task to move this club forward...who will motivate these players the best....les
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I think everyone of them would improve the team.........AS PLAYERS
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Who's Kenny Shields?
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I think everyone of them would turn us down. We are only a third division team, why would we get a SPL manager. Never going to happen.
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Sorry sheils
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Its been said time after time that Ally isnt a manager --- he is embarassing the club and has shown no respect for the fans by staying ----- for me he has had long enough to get a team together and to play football - but his tactics are sh@te and at some stage were going to get humped badly -- FFS charlie boy get rid of him now
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Or Stuart Mccoll
Think we would do better if we targeted Stuart McCall.
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Billy Davies !
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Billy Reid anyone?, has done a cracking job with Hamilton in the past
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Big Eck McLeish will knock them into shape.
They don't respect Ally. He does not command respect. McLeish does.
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@5 Its been said time after time that Ally isnt a manager--yes people outside the club
have said it for ages,but you did'nt listen
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19 Sep 2012 10:55:03
who really cares about the Ramsdens cup
anyway? doesnt excite me in the
slightest!
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Didn't seem to excite the team either!
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But that was to get into yer first ever semi final!
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Doesnt excite me either but that does not justify that a bunch of overpaid halfwits cant compete with Q O S at home in front of 20,000 fans. they are an embarrassment to the Jersey and im afraid Ally needs to take responsibility for it as he is the man that ultimately signed Sandaza,Kyle,black, etc scottish top div players getting paid spl wages and cant perform against div 2,3 teams what they need is good old fashioned motivation a good boot in the nat king would motivate em its a pity you cant give em performance related wages ie
if you win = full wages
if you draw = half wages
if you lose = F**k all wages
if this was the case i bet you we would have 100% record
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Sorry but all the Hector fans were on here a few weeks back saying first throphy in the bag, something the bhoys had never won, one of four to be bagged this season.
Me thinks you all have short memories.
Tim Goa.
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3.) Bang on! I've been saying this since big bad Jim McLean was hounded for suggesting it... His idea was, basic weekly wage, let's say £1k in todays money, £1k bonus for draw £2k bonus for a win (adjusted per players contract)
'Kin great idea
Never work though, players now are on a different planet from the one you and I live on and would not accept it
BB {Ed001's Note - George Graham's Arsenal did a similar thing, their basic wage was the lowest in England, but their win bonuses were excellent. Worked out well for them as well!}
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Thats the way it used to work, and should still, and does in nearly every other job
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I agree - top notch money for results. There has to be consequences for failure. Sadly this profession would never go for it. Thye dont play for the jerseys the way Caldow, Tully, Grieg and McNeil did - its all about cash (and plenty of it). How many of the 50,000 plus loyal would gladly pay to put on the jersey for 10 minutes? {Ed001's Note - Blackpool pay low wages, high bonuses, there is nothing to stop it happening.}
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Why does the ramsdens cup not excite you.maybe the green and white ribbons on it are a possible reason.
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19 Sep 2012 10:32:57
A suggested sketch for the burnistoun special rangers episode,ally mccoist pie in hand,standing in an art gallery studying a painting of a particularly large breasted woman.he turns to the camera raises his pie to his face and says there are big diddies and there are big diddies.....then theres me....................mattwax.
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Well well, the new Lenny Henry, or Ruby Wax? or someone similar with the comedic pzazz of an orphanage burning down?...is there no beginning to your talent?
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19 Sep 2012 10:10:45
hegarty and perry should be in central defence not cribari another poor singing by mccoist we need a partnership of sandazza and sheilds up front or mckay with sandazza if mccoist cant see this then he needs to leave cribara is rank rotten
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Sandaza has been the poorest rangers signing for a while does not know what he should be doing...he,s not a target man anyone can see that but thats the way he,s being used,kyle is a very good target man but cant get on.....its up to ally and thats what everyone is affraid of...les
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Does not know what he should be doing - is that his fault or the manager for not getting the message through. Maybe the players are trying to play the way the THINK the manager wants...
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19 Sep 2012 10:01:38
We shoud have changed our name to burnistoun rangers on account of the weekly surreal comedy episodes.
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Are you - the ugly wans?
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Id rather have Jolly Boy John upfront than that diddy Sandaza FOR REAL!
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19 Sep 2012 09:56:10
*** Queen of the South are to be kicked out of the Ramsdens Cup after it emerged many of their players have duel contracts. Upon further investigation it proved that as well as their standard footballing contract, many of the players also had contracts as Brickies, Plumbers, Sparks & Postmen.
DazzaBhoy {Ed039's Note - My sides hurt Dazza)
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Duel contracts?? Would that be pistols or swords? Or perhaps dual?
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Class dazzabhoy
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Ed the joke is taking the mickey out of the SPL investigation, just as much as it is out of RFC!
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Ffs Dazz you have actualy said something funny lets hope it continues
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Lol - best on here for a while
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Love it - should be writing scripts mate (dont worry about the pedantics and spotting spelling mistakes, they have people who proof read)
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19 Sep 2012 09:33:00
ally stating he could win fifa 13 (lol)
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19 Sep 2012 09:47:49
We have by far the best playing squad of any team in scotland outside the spl......hamstrung by the worst manager in the country.time to go mcoist.
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Sad to see so many agreeing. Ally is a legend but he boxed himself into a corner on walking away.
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19 Sep 2012 09:42:32
Someone mentioned earlier that Ally learned nothing from the Legend, Smith. I disagree, he's learned a lot from the great Waldo, that's clear,especially when he says "in the manner." lol
I've mentioned on here that this is not a job for a novice, not only that, Ally just does not have it! He'll hang in there though until Green sacks him.
Your club needs a Jimmy C, a Jim Jeffries or a Craig Brown........experienced managers that know what it takes.
Hell of a funny though, hats off to QoTS!
Miko x
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Decent, almost not gloating post....but the Berrs could be feeling a bit better by 10.0o tonight hopefully, when something similar could happen to our Champions(on a much higher level, of course!)
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@1: something similar? Are Benfica a pert-time team? Will there be penalties? Can Celtic be put out tonight?
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Not put out, but certainly sorted out, and There are usually pens at The Parkhead Tom Daley tribute nights,, aren't there?, and maybe Benfica will only have to play well for 25 minutes to beat you....nice wee part-time shift.
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@3: disappointed now?
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19 Sep 2012 09:33:37
quadruple is dead long live the treble
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19 Sep 2012 09:21:08
Out played,out fought and tactically inept.QOTS were better prepared and,worryingly,looked as fit as The Rangers players.They also played the better football, passing and moving on every occasion,even deep in their own half.Alexander once again had to produce saves at vital times to keep the score even.Shiels? Worth the money? for me no.Black? Poser who takes a touch to look good then plays a simple pass.Consider this,how many assists has Black had bearing in mind the percentage of dead balls he takes and possession he has in real time? These are bleak times and might be about to get a lot worse
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It was QOTS who looked as if they were at home at Ibrox.
Wee diddy away teams making Ibrox theirs.
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Never forget, every game you play against the SFL teams is like a cup final for them- face it cos it is not going to change. Says a lot for your club though but it is going to be a long hard season. Probably walk over Motherwell (I will put money on that one)
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19 Sep 2012 09:20:43
Ross perry for me is absolutely horrendous! I know he's young but am telling you right now he hasn't got it! I've seen better junior and Ameatur defenders and am not kidding! I can't believe he plays him every week, he hides, doesn't want the ball and against Berwick! Don't get me started! As for the rest of them, they better get the fingers out or we will be lucky to be back in the spl in 5 years
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19 Sep 2012 08:55:41
it si over, we all support our glorious rangers for the glory there is none mccoist is the wrost manager in our history and what about the reangers men clark n johnson they betrayed the club they shood be lieing doon like big mccall and all the other bears have for us when the going is needed we always know well be alright ;) but noo we r a joke ah work wi 2 sellick bhoys and they r gien me laldy on the texts hopefully benfica will gie them a doin but ahll no b bak at ibrox again til mccoist is gone and wi r back in a better league
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OP, you seem to think that being in a better league will automatically make the team better. Please explain your reasoning.
Can I make a suggestion, as a self proclaimed glory hunter, why not go and support your local team. It's people travelling from all over Scotland to Glasgow to support "their" team which has put the game in Scotland into the position it is in.
Al(ly must stay)
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19 Sep 2012 08:45:11
Anybody else think that Wallace was really really poor last night. I think there is a distinct lack of confidence flowing through the entire team, the big question is how do we get that back.?
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Easy, new manager
JMG
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He looks well worth his 5 year contract like ally 25year contract. Yous were all saying how assume he was a day ago as he got he contract and yesterday he looked scared and didn't know what to do. One guy on him and he almost kicks it out for a corner lol
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19 Sep 2012 08:32:25
Allysaid there was not a lot between
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league game Man City v Real Madrid.
QOS played us off the park. Big
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total joke.
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19 Sep 2012 08:17:20
as much ally is a rangers hero playing wise , manager wise he is going to kill this club with not getting to the 2nd divison, this booting the ball up to strikers is no use as he not seen its not working? he has got us knocked out of every cup and his excuse is " dissapointed" dose he not realise he is the one telling him to play like this? he needs to go now, Mcall would be a great replacement but motherwell are stomping the spl just now cant see him comming to us.
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Why Would McCall even contemplate leaving SPL Leaders Motherwell to the lowly dregs of Scottish football ?
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19 Sep 2012 07:33:47
Everyone going on about bringing in McCall to replace ally.
I think a better candidate if we could afford him would be Derek McInnes thoughts bear?
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Ray willkins all the way for me if not manager we should get him in as a coach at least!!! what you think ed?
bazza {Ed039's Note - He talks a very good game but his record is not great but you would have to imagine he has know how, tactical awareness, would be ready with a plan b and c which we do not have just now. I think it is a great opportunity for a young hungry manager with ambitious, not saying he would be interested or is the right man, but somones of Davie Weir's ilk, it would be a great opportunity for career progression for someone like him)
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Ray wilkins and Brian Laudrup for me.
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Stuart mccall all the way. surprised walter never brought him into the set up when he took over the reigns. the rumour at the time was smith,mccoist and macall
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19 Sep 2012 06:42:59
Is it just me or can anyone else see that when Lee McCulloch plays anywhere but up front, where I think he is our best forward, that the team is rooten. He is definitely not a centre midfielder. He does not help the defence when they have the ball so they resort to pumping high balls up to get headed back by the big centre halves. {Ed039's Note - he was he best player on the park)
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What a load of tosh ed you are bang on lee was the best player and just aswell we have him cause the rest of them are poor ps ally out ray willk in!! what you think ed gazman {Ed039's Note - He is playing for the jersey and have to admire him for that, he just seems to be dragging other players through matches just now when others need to step up and match the example of commitment set by him)
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19 Sep 2012 04:54:55
Maribor, Malmo, Falkirk, Dundee United (at Ibrox) and QOS at Ibrox .... How many more DISGRACEFUL performances and Cup exits will it take , Brechin,Peterhead and Annan draws all as bad. Sorry mate every week you stay you are putting Rangers back a month PLEASE if you care leave now and take the backroom team you seem to think can coach with you....McColl or Butcher in please or Walter if he can deal with CG.... george
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Dam rite ally out has to be the team i just playing long ball big bazza
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19 Sep 2012 03:54:56
now can we sack Ally? Please please go. You don't even have the rubbish excuse that we were playing away from home.
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Ally has to go all he said is if the players need a wake up call they got it has he not said this after every game we have had a draw or now lost , are the players ever going to get this wake up call with you ally? gazman
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19 Sep 2012 01:50:18
the season is already a farse.mccoist must walk himself as we don't want to see a club legend sacked.the guy has no managerial skill at all.he does not know what tactic's are and the players he has signed have been poor.even with the players he has at the club we should have walked this season.we need a complete change from kids level all the way up.i think many will agree that we are not producing the quality we need.we must start looking abroad.we need to start tapping into the south american,african and asian markets for our first team players and kids as well.we are the only big club who is not doing this,even celtic are doing this.we are a big club with small minded people in charge.we must change now because when we get into the premier league there will not be the money to spend and celtic will have a massive advantage.
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19 Sep 2012 01:15:29
My wee laddie has cried all the way back home tonight, what do you say to them "it'll get better?" because that's a lie isn't it?
Lochaber Bear. {Ed039's Note - LB I didn't get home til 2am and had musc blasting all the way home to keep my mind from it)
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Lets not beat about the bush mate, things are bad now, but they will get better. Chasing Celtic's success of 9iar and Euro Cup killed the club you love.
You grew up watching greats don your shirts, whilst i watched dross wearing the hoops! I had to endure you's winning 9iar and coming close to the Champions League final! Then my world nearly ended in 1994......but i'm still a Celtic fan! And your boy will grow up realising what winning actually means when he's had to endure loosing to QOS and drawing with Annan etc
Keep the faith
DazzaBhoy
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Lol great post ed
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Lochaber Bear, Tell the wee man the hurt is short term and hopefully the good times return and all is forgotten. The late 60's, part of the 70's and 80's were bad but this is worse. We have supported the Teddy Bears all these years and the good times WILL return.
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Give the kid some jelly tots, that worked for me at that age. by the end of the tube, he will forget about the other tubes misrepresenting the jersey
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Well said and true.
Who knows what is around the corner and at the end of the day - it's only a game. Life goes on and the world keeps on turning regardless of the football results. Both teams have had great runs and we have all enjoyed the highs and lows
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19 Sep 2012 01:09:05
surly ally's times up.the guy learned nothing from a legend like walter smith.he does not have a clue what tactic's are and anyone who is rangers manager and plays 1 striker the 3rd division is kidding the fans on.this season should have been a walk in the park and tonights game was just a matter of time.his signing policy been a joke.how many of his signing showed any quality,for me 1,aluko.there are "top" players how where playing in top leagues around world without a club but he brings in guys no one as every heard of and pays them good money,OUR MONEY THE FANS MONEY.ally will always be a legend and in our hearts but he must do the right thing and walk away because i don't think GREEN will sack him.he need someone with experience that will get through to the players and not treat them like pals.i would go for a foreigner who will bring a difference philosophy to the club.
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From the legend Walter smith, that's why ally plays one upfront. He learned from the defensive master. I don't think it should be a foreigner that takes over. It should be someone who has done well at a smaller team or a team in a lower league before with little to spend, an older far more experienced manager. Even someone that has consistently done well in the championship or league one in England
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Ally has learned from walter that is why he is negative tactics and long ball one dimensionable
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Look reality needed to set in sooner or later if anybody thought we would go through the whole season unbeaten is delusional. The whole of the sfl teams are gunning for us were on our knees and they smell blood bottom line. Rangers and Celtic were only dominant when they had each other now that's gone and teams ain't scared anymore they see us there for the taking. Hopefully this will be the kick up the backside the players need if not they should all just chuck it because they will just become laughing stocks. As for ally he needs to man up and go through them like a ton of bricks. Not wanting to make excuses but that ref was shocking. He booked Alexander but not the QOS goalie shocking. In all the games I have seen this season the ref has been shocking scarey starting to sound like a tim but it's true
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You are forgetting one thing,old Wattie spent millions while you where skint Sally has no clue but at least he has not wasted any money,Chuckie has taken the lot and gave him a load of free transfers
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19 Sep 2012 01:06:07
It hit home tonight just where we are, I was not at the game due to illness but my boy went with his pal, and came home saying "we have gone from CL to Ramsdens Cup, and get knocked out". He is of an age where he didn't see the Gazzas, Laudrups, de Boers of this world, in fact he has never seen a good Rangers team. I wonder how long it will be, if ever, that he sees a really good side.
I sat and watched that garbage tonight whilst having
one eye on Real v City. How low can you go?
Not that we were ever near sides of that quality but how do we get back even competing at that stage?
I have spent months backing McCoist but this really is not good enough. There is no settled shape, no pace, and a distinct lack of ability. I was astonished with the fact that we signed the likes of Black and Sandaza but they have shown very little. These were the so called better players at the provincial teams but they are just not showing it, they need to step up urgently.
Tomorrow is going to make me feel a whole lot worse when I have to hear of Celtic in CL. We need to realise we are a third div team and need to forget about talking of winning silverwear , that ain't gonna happen, and frankly the thought of facing Celtic is giving me sleepless nights, in fact the thought of facing Motherwell gives me the boak.
How the mighty have fallen, what a damn shame and how Murray & Whyte are still walking about is the greatest shame of all. May they ever be remembered in infamy.
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Mate I'm totally scunnered tae but realisation is a great thing maybe this is the smack in the face these so called rangers players needed. Once again they looked to cocky swaggering around the pitch chewing gum like they couldn't care disgusting. But let's be honest who never seen there second goal coming I was screaming at my telly it was that obvious. As soon as that goal went in I knew we would lose but I forced myself to keep watching why because if I am going to keep supporting rangers through these difficult times I had to realise exactly where we are we have no right to think we can just turn up and win. Hopefully this has now sunk in with everyone involved at rangers fans management players owners. It time to roll the sleeves up and get dirty because it will get worse before it gets better
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19 Sep 2012 01:01:19
Hey Bears,
Rangers : Alexander, Argyriou, Perry, Emilson Cribari, Wallace, McKay (Faure 79), McCulloch, Black, Macleod (Naismith 79), Shiels, Sandaza (Kyle 54). Subs Not Used: Gallacher, Aird.
Sent Off : Kyle (66). Booked : Kyle, Faure, Alexander.
That's one team you'll want to forget about. haha {Ed039's Note - Why are your so interested?)
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Bit of a stupid question that ed mate. It's rangers losing in the ramsdens cup at home. We are celtic. Why would we not be interested in that ? Remember Brady must stay ? How times have changed. {Ed039's Note - Oh I remember the Brady days, and the Barnes days, The Dr Venglos days ........... Just saying)
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Brady And Barnes Yes
Dr V Signed Some Great Players
Lubo And Big Johan Who
Has Sally Signed That Has Been
Of Quality None
Goldenbhoy
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The team highlights the fact that it's not all kids playing - there are only 3 in the starting 11 who could be classed as kids. The rest have a huge amount of experience between them: enough, you would, think to beat the likes of Annan and QOTS?
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19 Sep 2012 00:57:43
Ally's desk has been cleared tonight, he's left Ibrox for the last time as manager.
Leaving under the himilation isn't ideal and the booing was un called for.
Paul Hartley in the man for me, either that or John Lambie from Partick Thistle.
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Hartley are you havng a laugh.
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Shut up paul hartley is a celtic man get a grip loads of blue mangers sitting doing nothing we should be looking at them
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If you only go for so called rangers men, you`ll never progress as a club! go for the best manager available, do you think Alex Fergussen was a united fan! just not too soon as I`m LMAO at your lot right now!
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19 Sep 2012 00:05:21
with the way money is at rangers now its time for
durrant
mcdowell
mccoist
all to go its money poorly spent just now the money they get from the club could be spent more wisely
my choice is derek adams seen it done it........les
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I agree, they're not commercially viable. They're cutting off revenue streams also by getting booted out competitions.
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Ally and his coaching staff cost us a fortune to lose us money, it's nuts.
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Just read that ally,s first goal for rangers was against queen of the south 29 years ago...well ally things have now gone full circle ..you know what you have to do..les
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The thing is with ally i still like him BUT if he were not to do the right thing soon enough things may change and that would be a shame....think we should all give him a rousing farewell against motherwell ,because that backroom team just do not have a future at ibrox..we know it..the players know it...and they know it now...les
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It is not about the money they are making, it is about the dire results they are producing. The manager takes the blame for results. Time to go Ally. Time to go was about 6 months ago.
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How do we attract a new manager.
Green is not going to fund any new signings - even after the ban
We cant promise him a tilt at Europe
Expectations are sky high - no time to settle
Player pool very poor
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18 Sep 2012 23:55:22
the old saying "good guys come last"....allys a good ...good to have a laugh in the pub....good on sportsy shows ...good at most things but not as a manager...mr green has to make a boardroom decision here he wont like cause allys a "good guy".......but he will lose revenue fast when the loyal watch the telly or go shoppin wi the troublen strife.....its a business and a business decision has to be made...gee him a job elsewhere in the club......barman or somethin....but for frigg sake 'GET HIM OOT NOO!...deecee
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Everybody associated with the old club needed to go. It should have been a new start with new people.
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@1, your spot on and the whole thinking of the watp for you are a new club.
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What old club is that then ?
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Ally brought his comedy roadshow home tonight and he did not let us down. This just keeps getting better. The man is a comedy genius. So what it is now ? Billy Davies ? Go on give us a right laugh.
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1) If "the rangers" had started they're NewCo with with a new manager and a new chairmen, you would have been looking for new supporters. McCoist was one of the resons 30,000 of you's bought season tickets!
Also if you sack Ally, who will you bring in?......the days of big name managers like PLG and Advocaat are well gone.
DazzaBhoy {Ed039's Note - A young hungr manager with tactical know how)
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Motherwell - Ally's Armagedon
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Think we will beat Motherwell why because the players will turn up. Personally I think it was wrong to sign players who are used to playing at a higher level as they just can't get the selfs motivated enough for the scrap you need to put up against these lower league teams. But I'm afraid to say if they don't start soon that's where they will stay
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