Rangers Banter Archive May 19 2014

19 May 2014 15:59:41
To the posts below tell me any manager in football or any business for that matter who doesn't back his board put it this way in any management if u don't back the board u won't be in a job for long
r. f

Are you joking are you really trying to
Make excuses for ally.

Ally backs anyone who says he can have more money. Let's see what your hero is really like when he's let go.
The truth will come out then.

My guess is he will say I didn't back any of the boards.

To your question many managers disagree with there board that's why they quit.

But this is a different scenario these past boards have overspent and filled there bank accounts with bonus's.

All ally cares about is how much he can spend for the next year, not how can he save money in the next year.

I'd imagine one with an already healthy bank balance and an ounce of integrity would. Especially one who has a long standing affiliation with a club and professes to be a fan like everyone else.
I know, I know, I'm just a daft idealist. We all know integrity and honesty are just things found in fairytales.

Ally is financially secure, he is not middle management with a big mortgage and 2. 5 kids. If he cannot take a principled stance based on right or wrong who the hell can. If he stood up to Whyte or Green demanded to be told the truth and then walked out the door he would have exposed these shysters for what they were, and maybe this whole fiasco would have been brought to a conclusion much sooner, instead he has backed them both and carried along thousands with him based on this. I am sick to the back teeth with this omni-shambles. We must now dig in and either have a football club worth supporting or take the whole thing down and start again.

Allys wage comes before budgets and if he had known what went on he should have resigned but he knows he would not get another managers job anywhere and what job would he get at same money

Brian Clough didn't back his board at Derby County.
Bela Guttman put the now famous curse on Benfica which has lasted 52 years.

You're correct, they don't last long after outbursts but they have integrity and respect. After endorsing three consecutive failed CEO's I doubt McCoist has much of either left these days.

@ ron59 good post but Ally and principled stance? That is like Putin and true democracy the two are like strangers destined never to meet.

Does anyone know what plan b is if King and the 14,000 UoF season ticket money witholders has no effect on this current board?

Do these guys whip their money out at the last minute and buy a season ticket or do they use this sum to buy shares?
We know King won't- will the fans without their seats?

Reasons to be cheerful 1, 2, 3?

(1) We still have a club (at the moment not one to be proud of but we still have one)
(2) We have moved up another division
(3)?

Can anyone help with 3 or is two as good as it gets at the moment?


To me this sums up the support we have had occasional tactics but no strategy that the majority bought into. The only strategy is and was buy them out and if enough had bought into that they would be out by now. There is no blue, white or red knights coming to the rescue- just a whole host of lowly squires- but can they do it? So far we are failing the founding fathers- can we step up to the plate before it is too late?

If we cannot no amount of pointless whingeing on here will matter a jot.
It will make the author feel better for a few seconds but that is all. Hot air won't save the club.

Grey bear the only safe way bto get rid is buy them out that's only safe way I have been shouting for months 50000 bears @£20/month is £1m surely we could manage this hearts with no disrespect meant managed with a smaller fan base than us all we want to do do is argue blame everyone or hope for some white knight to appear that ain't going to happen allwe have is d king who by his actions could finnish the club I posted yesterday that there are signs that some fans are warming to the idea what we need ist find someone to lead us the u o f fans leaders only have ears for king and that must change because I feel they are as guilty as king for playing fast and loose with the clubs future

Lbj d I know you have mate- yourself and Baybear were lone voices for a while but you were spot on.

Much as we dislike Ally and Ally's version of football- which is a helluva lot of dislike in my case the bigger problem is securing new fan ownership.

Who is sending the letter to John Greig the greatest ever Ranger? He would rally the fans.

Lbj d I know you have mate- yourself and Baybear were lone voices for a while but you were spot on.

Much as we dislike Ally and Ally's version of football- which is a helluva lot of dislike in my case the bigger problem is securing new fan ownership.

Who is sending the letter to John Greig the greatest ever Ranger? He would rally the fans.

So now he's just a manager trying to keep his job? a very well paid one even though he didn't know it (BS), what about his supposed loyalty to Rangers and the fans?

19 May 2014 11:57:50
Things are looking bleak just now, this could really be the end of Rangers, we all thought it might happen but it looks a distinct possibility now and that is scary and sad. I know Wallace and Easedale are taking all the flak for the mess we're in and I don't defend them at all but Green, White etc etc all played their parts, the only constant throughout is McCoist who backed every single one of them, we should not forget that without McCoist stringing us along NONE of this was possible. Yes we need a new board but we also need remove the other cancerous parasites who collaborated with them.

I have said long and weary about ally but for football matters and player recruitment that's all

Here we go again. Who's more fool, the fool or the fool who follows?

I follow my team because it's the way I am, not because the manager tells me to. Would McCoist not backing the board really have made any difference? Maybe we would have had a new manager, who would probably have backed the board. So no, no difference.

But you're right, things are lookng bleak.

Strong words smokey Bear but it must be getting harder for the SuperAlly fans to make a case on his behalf other than we are going up the leagues and we were undefeated in the league.
That no one can argue with. The type of opposition or "style " of football, the entertainment value, the honesty and integrity of the manager on all matters- a much more difficult case to defend.
That is why I think we need a new manager as well as fan ownership.
Interesting poll about will the UOF succeed and at this early stage the majority seem to think they won't which surely only leaves fan ownership?

Ths site is gettng worse these hedge funs are bleeding our club dry Ibrox Park and Murray Park our crown jewels are under threat of being sold off and leased back to us to line the pockets of faceless investers and all we hear on here is Ally this and Ally that now i'm not convinced on Ally but i'm still willing to judge him at the end of next season but come on rise above Ally its not him that's treating the fans like cash cows we must rid the club of these hedge funds wake up before its to late there may not be a club to manage

Just when was Ibrox ours, it my mind it was the home of the team we support. We buy tickets to watch and support our team, so in fairness we get what we pay for. If we were to buy enough shares we then could control the assets, so until then we have no voice. The only thing not buying tickets, whether season or game by game will do, is finish our club and the asset strippers will clear everything and move on. So for anyone in any doubt, this started with david murray and his tainted £1. In my opinion, he may still be involved somewhere, and rest assured his legacy, with our once great club, will taint any good he done.

Murray is not involved anywhere his last was sale of albion carpark and edmiston house which are clearly assets of the club

Billy untill everyone realises ibrox isn't ours and the club is not either and the only way to cure everything is instead of paying to fight the club we pay to buy shares I would gladly do that do that even if I had no s/ticket which I won't renew if macoist is there

@lbj d that would be an interesting poll- are you not renewing because of the board or because of the poor football Ally's Rangers serve up?

Lbj d, I go along with most of your stance, but you cannot guarantee that e. g. murray, whyte, green and even ellis have no link to our club. Yes I did say ellis and not elvis, but who knows.

Grey bear I am not renewing because of ally and the football u go game u sit looking all around u look to talk to someone out to concourse back in to seat anything but watch game as far as the board goes everyone knows my thoughts on the only way to get rid of them ie u donnt fight the battle until u know u can win by share majority

Billy b can tell u murray not involved defineately

20 May 2014 02:20:42
whether murray is still invoved or not is immaterial, The man destroyed us and stands guity of ruininhg our history and tradition,
he sold our club to a charleton when good men like A Johnston begged him not to, I hope some day Murray gets what he deserves, Poverty, like he left our great club in, please god Rangers come out of this, and let Murray never darken our door again
Tommy

Cooperboy, you're bang on! The amount of people only focussed on Ally is a clear sign of how many fans have no clue about what's happening or could happen.

ALLY IS NOT THE ENEMY.

Who the hell cares about the brand of football just now? Seriously? its mince but getting this board out is the only priority, not greetin about Ally and his wage and his trust.

GDog10
RTID

Succinctly put billyb and agreed. @4 had we played totally scintillating attacking football that thrilled the crowd do you still think we would be struggling to sell the STs?
It might be a good poll for the future ED?
Are you not renewing because of this board or is it the quality of football?
Personally I think it might be a bit of both but speaking, as we all can. for myself alone, if I knew I was going to be entertained in most of the 90 minutes I would have renewed.
So Ally and his poor football management (never mind his integrity or the lack of it) has had a huge impact on how we feel about our club IMO and consequently on our club's future or otherwise.