Rangers Banter Archive March 19 2019

19 Mar 2019 22:59:36
I get where people are coming from on Morelos being petulant
And I get where everyone else comes from that he scores goals only problem is
What's his goal ratio against Kilmarnock, Aberdeen and most importantly against Celtic
Boyd Miller McCoist Hatley all had great records scoring against said teams
Defoe why did gerrard bring him? Seriously why did he bring him in anyone got a decent answer?
Lafferty why was he brought in seriously why
How many games have they played - more importantly how many crucial games have they played they made an impact or a difference in us wining said game?

I posted last week and I stand by what I said, I really thought we would have had such a better season than what we're having
Aberdeen and Kilmarnock and Celtic how many times have we beaten them since gerrard has came in the door
How much money are we spending on wages take Celtic out against the budgets of Aberdeen and Kilmarnock even Dundee and Hibs
All these teams have taken points from us
I thought we would have attracted a better calibre of player with gerrard in charge and we really haven't his signings so far have been awfull let's take the blinkers off if pedro was still in charge would we be accepting these results and these players performances NO
I'm totally fed up watching listening talking about this rubbish absolutely fed up
Rangers our football club has been torn apart dragged through the tabloids we have been laughed at over the years and I thought gerrard was going to be different bring some respect back to our club make Ibrox a fortress one more unfortunately he is struggling right now.
We need new ideas fresh ideas not bringing back past players that just aren't doing it paying a wage for what?
We need a better calibre of player creative players players willing to fight for our club it's not bloody happening just now I can tell you that
We can defend them all day long but when you have our top scorer being sent off being banned missing games because of it. what's the point of him being here and why we paying top wages to Defoe if he's not good enough to replace said petulant child being banned and sent off and missing games
Lafferty again can't replace him
Give me strength - stop 🛑
Steven Gerrard you have a big name I was expecting some astute signings from you real grafters real attacking exciting football creative hardworking mentality
We have all been let down
I'm sick of it totally fed up sick of it all our current team is rubbish I'm sorry guys don't agree that's fine
It's my opinion and until something drastically changes my opinion will hold firm
£10 million for Morelos? Please I'll bite the hand off the club that offers
And for the rest bar a handful can go too
Gerrard you will have a summer and 10 games into season to make the changes that's needed or we get beat of said teams in the first 10 games just forget it.
There players sitting out not getting games and not getting the chance het the same ones letting us down game after game
What's wrong with him - is he really out his depth and we don't want to say it out load is that the problem guys
Come on no stupid answers
If your rangers men come back give something positive - give honest feed back if ty don't agree that's fine give me the argument that says what I think is wrong please - because I'm dying of death here waiting and watching same thing year in year out
Imagine Celtic backed Rodgers the way he wanted them too - oooft doesn't bare thinking about?

20 Mar 2019 00:25:01
i feel your pain mate, I've said it so many times. We are on a toy circular train set, round and round and going nowhere. We need change, we need REAL talent. we need players who WILL die for our club. Not petulant idiots like Morelos, how many points has he lost us, missing sitters and getting booked or sent off then banned. He IS a liability, no matter what his fans on here say.

20 Mar 2019 02:12:33
For a start Morelos has scored 12 goals against Kilmarnock and Aberdeen combined this season so far so not sure what your on about. I agree none against Celtic is not ideal but kris Boyd scored 1 I’m sure in all of his time with us so again your comparison is laughable. McCoist and hateley were class. Never got past the 1st paragraph of your post. Tuesday night sesh for you?

20 Mar 2019 06:23:57
Boyd scored 1 more than Morelos against Celtic.

20 Mar 2019 07:29:58
@sharpshooters

Sadiq
Ejaria
Defoe
Lafferty
Grezda
Flanagan
Worral
Katic

I’m sorry long post did a few last night - so short and sweet for you - there NOT good enough and we will never win the league with them
What’s Gerrard thinking coming from where he has came from
I get were not going to get word beaters but I’m hoping with the right recruitment and working with our scouts we can certainly get better than this crop if not forget it.

20 Mar 2019 08:53:48
Well, a rather negative post to say the least Thestigno1! After we beat Celtic just before the winter break, things were looking much better and that was a great performance. It is since the new year that the wheels have come off. In 9 Premiership league games played in 2019 our record is P9, W5, L1, D3. That is 9 points dropped and we are currently 10 points behind them. Enough said. We are also out of the Scottish Cup with two away draws to Kilmarnock and then Aberdeen and lost the latter. Something has gone wrong since the turn of the year. I totally disagree about Morelos. Without his goals where would we be this season? However, I do agree about Defoe, Lafferty and indeed Davis. Why did SG sign them? The focus now must be to finish 2nd, regardless of the result at the piggery at the end of this month. We'll be in Europe again and hopefully SG can build and add to the squad. My successes this season have been:

MCGREGOR
TAVERNIER (despite what people say about him, he's scored goals)
KATIC (not given a chance)
MORELOS
JACK
KENT
ARFIELD
MCCRORIE (not given a chance)
HALLIDAY (never gives up)

Sadly, that's about it.

End of rant!

20 Mar 2019 09:21:04
@doiger listen I agree mate I am being negative
I’m just disappointed by what you say the turn of the year has been horrendous and Gerrard doesn’t change things and insists keeping the same players who’s letting us down
I’m not having a go at Morelos he is a good player but petulant all the less
And still hasn’t done it against Celtic and misses a lot of chances he’s still young and maturing I agree
But the stupid behaviour at times needs to stop ASAP

And before anyone says ejaria is not longer here I was just putting him in as a point in some of the signings and money spent has been no where near what I thought Gerrard would have brought in
I’m hoping that changes in the summer
But the players I listed aren’t good enough they really
are not and that’s not me being negative it’s true
We’re paying far to much for Defoe he’s doing nothing picking up a lovely wage that’s about it
Lafferty no where near the class we need
David doesn’t look very interested

Morelos
Kent
Arfield
Kent
Mccrorie
Murphy when he’s back
Jack
Tavernier
Mcgreggor
And some of the youngsters

The rest need moved on - listen it’s just my thoughts and opinion and not ramming it down anyones throat
Like everyone else I want our team back to being on top it’s been a long time and this taking one foot forward then two back is getting boring now
And players coming for a wage and letting us down really angers me.

20 Mar 2019 09:25:38
@doiger
And your right meant too say - Halliday does try his heart out pity there were not more like him with his desire

The players that are not getting there chance I wish we could get an explanation why there not being given a chance - where is the American youngster we signed also Matt Polster

Should have also said Kamara he will hopefully be a talent
Jesus we have that big a squad I forget who we actually have loll

Come on Gerrard get it sorted and give us a team worthy of the famous Glasgow Rangers.

20 Mar 2019 09:35:13
"Without his goals where would we be this season? "
Doiger, could the answer be in exactly the same position. Well done to him at the weekend, but how many times has he turned a defeat in to a draw; or a draw in to win. I don't know the answer, but my feeling is not many.

20 Mar 2019 10:12:57
To be fair to Stevie G. He has bought some very good players and brought some of the kids on, although maybe not enough playing time for some of the better young players, like McCrorie, but then he has to ( try ) and reach targets for both the board and supporters? Very few managers blood a lot of young players on a regular basis unless the player is exceptional. He is not getting his first choice players in because Rangers just don’t have the money ( yet ) so Mark Allen and himself are trying for the best they can afford, then the injury to Murphy came at a very bad time as the guy was starting to play . Don’t think I’m making excuses for some of his bad decisions because the buck must stop with him, as he knew the job before he signed up, I just feel in my water that the guy will do well because he has that winner attitude in his blood.

20 Mar 2019 10:37:04
Lot of posts not happy with manager but he must be given more time to get team sorted. SG could have got a job in lower lge in England I've no doubt about that but despite getting warned and advised not to touch the job the man had the bottle to take Gers job on unlike other people who were linked with job. He could have lived the easy life down south and he's not up here for the money that's for sure as he's not short of a bob or two I'd imagine. If SG thinks he can turn us into a team that can challenge for trophies then let's give him a chance to do his job.

20 Mar 2019 11:03:47
Thestigno1, we are agreeing and most things at the end of the day. It is a shame that Wallace, Dorrans and Murphy have all had long-term injuries. As for Morelos Styab, without his goals we'd probably be 4th or worse!

20 Mar 2019 11:18:01
I agree morelos has to drop his petulance but he is a top player for us I don't think anyone can deny that. 👍.

20 Mar 2019 11:27:54
Bit negative there doiger, only half our squad are a success. you sure you are not a tim🤔👍.

20 Mar 2019 12:52:03
Would like to see big laff up front againt the tic rather than morelos.

20 Mar 2019 13:19:58
Coldco I wonder what sort of player Morelos would be without the petulance.
We see players like broadfoot trying to goad him on Saturday, players take turns in hitting Morelos hard, example hibs, Aberdeen and killie recently.
I wish someone could convince Morelos this is a back handed compliment.

20 Mar 2019 13:28:54
Stig my reply was about Morelos. Never read the rest of your novel so couldn’t agree or disagree.

20 Mar 2019 14:41:35
A much better one jboy👍.

20 Mar 2019 15:30:37
Celtic did back Rodgers. go and have a lie down my friend.

20 Mar 2019 21:13:24
@molsgoals

If Celtic backed Rodgers the WAY he wanted them then he might still be there and would have been miles ahead of us
Sorry my friend it is you who needs to go lie down and take off the blinkers it is what it is.

They didn’t back him the way he wanted hence his fallen out and departure he wanted more money to compete in Europe and the Celtic board never agreed
That’s a part of it his departure and the rest is his business

Not sure why people such as yourself come on with a attitude of every persons opinion is wrong bar yours

Rangers fans I know stick together and can have open debate over club players manager and all opinions are taken on board and gives you something g to think about and maybe see something you never seen before or thought that way about
Don’t come on with attitude there is no need
If you think they backed him fine state your case and I may see it from your point of view given facts or how you see it differently from me.
It’s not too difficult to be nice mate.

21 Mar 2019 13:57:19
"As for Morelos Styab, without his goals we'd probably be 4th or worse! "
I work out he is responsible for 9 points, i. e. goals from him which are the difference turning defeats to draws or draws to wins. Still second, but just ahead of Aberdeen.

19 Mar 2019 19:04:48
See Jake Cooper coming up again watched him a few times recently and he very similar to Worrall maybe cheaper.

19 Mar 2019 20:19:19
Signed long term contract this season with Millwall. Think would cost at least £8m, unfortunately probably out of our range.

19 Mar 2019 22:46:55
and he missed the penalty that got Millwall knocked out of the FA Cup. Don't need him, we have Tav to do that lol.

19 Mar 2019 22:52:20
'Probably' bless.

20 Mar 2019 08:33:06
8 million FS. 8 million pigeons?

19 Mar 2019 08:54:05
Quite a few folk getting their knickers in a twist over my post which mentioned young McCrorie as a potential captain in waiting and being a CB.

It is all about opinions (and stats)

McCrorie played CB 21 times in the premiership for Rangers last season and never lost a game.

Football is stressful, at all levels, but rank that up to be playing for Rangers and it is much much higher - McCrorie was 19/ 20 when he played in that position, and possibly it was too much, but remember he played very well, and maybe SG made the comments about this young lad's position was a challenge - after all it was such a very strange comment to make on one so young - only time will tell.

Katic also wants that position, so maybe the two of them working and training together will bring about the improvement we all want and need.

PS - Strange that Kilmarnock are very quiet on Broadfoot stud raking Morelos apart from one of them stating that Morelos made him do it? lol.

19 Mar 2019 12:25:05
Other than when we lost 2-0 at home to Celtic you mean. He May very well end up as a CB but currently it doesn’t appear to be his best position.

19 Mar 2019 12:48:07
Ger78 - did he play in that game?

His stats on soccer base states that he played 21 games and suffered one defeat in Europe and was undefeated in Scotland.

And some of the headlines if you look back made him the main drive as CB, against Aberdeen, hibs and celtic.

19 Mar 2019 13:09:08
Yes he did, he did ok however for one of the goals (the first I think) he took a swip at the ball at the edge of the box after a corner, missed it and they scored. Anyway that’s not really the point, as I say I do think that he may end up as a CB and I feel that he may actually work well in a back 3 just now as can bring the ball out from the back, however I agree that, currently anyway, he’s still not dominant enough to play CB in a back 4.

19 Mar 2019 13:12:49
Plus your kind of contradicting yourself saying he was the ‘main CB drive’ against Celtic seeing as we lost every game to Celtic last year?!
And I wouldn’t rely on a site called soccer base for your stats. For a start it calls the game ‘soccer’.

19 Mar 2019 13:29:18
That was McCrorie first start for Rangers - he has come a long way from then.

19 Mar 2019 15:13:43
I agree he has, and I’m not trying to get at you at all True Blue, it’s just that I see it a lot on here when statements are given as fact when they’re not actually fully accurate. That’s the kind of thing that the Scottish press and folk like Michael Stewart and now Kris Boyd tend to do!
We can also tend to make sweeping statements either building players up or knocking them down far too quickly.
We’ve had Barisic going from ‘the best left back ever’ to useless sell him in a few months, Morelos going from useless last year to £20million at least in under a season from some folk. I even had a debate preseason with someone on here that stated Flanagan was going to be first choice right back and was an amazing player to which I stated Tav was first choice right back and would remain so and Flanagan had a lot to prove as it was 4 years ago that he was a great player. Point being none of us see these players day in day out at training or know who is best for which position we can only suggest on what we see during the games. Like you I do feel eventually Mccrorie will become a centre back but as we’ve seen with Worrall and Katic, young centre backs can be prone to mistakes and we all know what our fan base can be like when someone makes a mistake! Playing him at CB week in week out just now could end up destroying his confidence and putting back his development. He has bulked up and toughened up a bit this year which is good as in this league you need strength up against some of the bruisers other teams have up front. In time he’ll make a great CB but maybe not just yet.

19 Mar 2019 17:00:44
He didn't play 21 games at cb. 21 games all in the first 4 or 5 at cb before moving to midfield. He's a different animal in there, twice as effective as he is at the back.

19 Mar 2019 17:02:56
Ger78 - I agree what you have said and take your points but McCrorie has went from playing every week to not be played at all. Being slated publicly by SG does not seem to have been the ideal method of encouraging this young man, and some of the players who have taken his place really does seem strange, but as you say we do not see the training or attitudes.
It would now seem that we have an abundance of young players, for various positions, who are not getting game time, and if they have not been sent out on loan you would think that they will be played. I presume that SG will be giving them that time soon.
I still think SG is the man to turn around Rangers and once he has moved some on and brought in better we should get a better picture of whom he sees as his first team players.

19 Mar 2019 17:07:04
As I’ve said before True Blue you do talk sense in your texts, others do the same, ArthurD can be sensible as well so this site is not full of excitable guys ranting and raving, I enjoy some of the banter etc.

19 Mar 2019 17:42:48
Ulsterman - I like a debate and always put my hand up when proved wrong or in err, but I do not like, as you say, these one line poo pooers - who add little to the discussion other than trying to wind up everyone.

Have not saw you posting about the Morelos situation (Broadfoot boot scraping his achilles) and Kilmarnock player saying Morelos started it! lol.

19 Mar 2019 22:21:21
To be fair guys I think discussing Mcrorie right now is irrelevant anyway unfortunately.
I am far more concerned about the midfielders that have been keeping him out of the team.
Nobody has put their stamp on that midfield, nobody takes control or takes responsibility to run the show.
The debate about Mcrorie, for me anchor man all day long far more effective there.
I am pretty sure he was sent off against them last season at Ibrox as a CB, then again I think he was sent off against St mirren from midfield this season.
All season long teams have been winning the midfield battle against us because we don't have an enforcer.
Ryan Jack decent player, not an enforcer, Arfield sometimes shows up for games, creative not an enforcer, Kamara early days, tidy player again not an enforcer.
Nobody grabs the bull by the horns and drives the team on.
I think Mcrorie gets about, snaps into tackles, he is strong and resilient, he is mobile and young, so in my opinion I think he should be getting games instead of 1 of these other players.
Notice how I haven't even mentioned Davis, well that's as much as I can say about Davis.
Gerrard doesn't do himself or the players any favours though, all season long, questionable line ups, questionable subs and tactics.
He has messed about far too often for my liking. I don't know about everyone else but a steady partnership at the back and in midfield works better when your not chopping and changing things all the time.
Also about 6 million roughly spent between Grezda, Barisic and Katic, these guys are not doing it.
I will give Katic the benefit of the doubt as I do think there is a really good player there but he wasn't trusted after the great start he had and let's face it weather he has had a couple of bad games or not, Worral has been shocking more often than not.
Rant over.

19 Mar 2019 23:20:14
Never seen the incident True blue so can’t comment, I will only comment on things I know a bit about, but he’s well named broad- foot.

20 Mar 2019 15:28:40
Broadfoot must have learnt his ‘trade’ somewhere before Killie.

19 Mar 2019 06:10:42
Don't know how some people on here constantly refer to mcrorie as a center back. Gerrard has been on the record saying previous regime nearly ruined him by playing him there! He is a defensive midfielder all day long, this is his best position. I do think he can fill in at right back if required. Maybe when we play against teams who park the bus SG thinks the other midfielders have more creative abilities? Who knows but I think its time for young Ross to be playing again, I'd rather have him in my team especially when we need to battle it out. future captain apparently so let's develop him Stevie g.

19 Mar 2019 07:46:20
Agree. Ross is a cdm all day long and a good man to have beside you in the trenches. His game is improving all the time, he has drive and energy and loves a tackle. What's not to like?

19 Mar 2019 08:01:11
He's not a centre half but he is a right back? what are you smoking?

19 Mar 2019 08:26:19
Ivlark, I assume u don't know mccrorie career, he has played plenty at right back for reserves and Scotland age group.

19 Mar 2019 08:33:27
Not taking sides but he's played right back at youth and reserve levels. He has pace, can run with the ball and can tackle. Improve his delivery and that's all the ingredients for a great right back.

19 Mar 2019 13:29:12
Jboy I assume you don't know Mccrories career, he has played centre half for reserves, first and scotland age group.

he has more of the required attributes to be a centre half than he does a modern day right back.

His best position is CDM but if we needed a CH and a RB he would be put at CH before RB.

19 Mar 2019 15:47:50
All about opinions.

19 Mar 2019 17:34:37
so you try to ridicule me for my input but when I turn it on you its about opinions

cool.

19 Mar 2019 18:43:19
Ivlark never turned on you, u were incorrect.

19 Mar 2019 22:07:06
what was I incorrect about?