Rangers Banter Archive January 19 2016
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19 Jan 2016 23:22:42
O'hallaron and the boy from Brentford are not signing for us. MW made it clear he wants them but whoever is doing the negociation can't meet the price. We are skint.
19 Jan 2016 23:46:16
please explain to all, dear Pulsar, from whence your information was derived.
19 Jan 2016 23:58:17
Went quiet but no news is good news patience.
20 Jan 2016 00:09:50
Sorry, no good news on transfer front. Looks like only loans coming this month if anybody. Source at Murray park.
20 Jan 2016 02:36:03
We need a defensive midfield player and Warburton has made it clear that he wants one in. Just a shame if penny pinching King fails to provide the necessary funds.
It would appear that it is the other investors that are funding the club while King takes the glory.
20 Jan 2016 08:45:16
Personally I would rather DK took the praise over fat Mike, no point in paying over the odds just because it's January considering we're 5 points clear with a good team already. WATP.
19 Jan 2016 21:42:12
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Watford And Norwich Make Transfer Market Splash And More News
19 Jan 2016 20:12:46
Think warburton and the board are playing our signing policy absolutely brilliantly;we've been giving teams in Scotland millions over the years for players who were never worth it well done MW and DK right behind youz.
19 Jan 2016 20:27:58
2 ffffin right, we don't owe any of them nothin, it's us against the rest, no one likes us and all that! All together now.
19 Jan 2016 21:09:07
I think it's more to do with the fact that we have a transfer budget. What he has can't get the 2 players that he wants at the price the clubs are asking.
19 Jan 2016 21:17:40
I think you could probably get a better player down south for the 500.000 St Johnstone are looking for ohalleron.
19 Jan 2016 21:54:11
In my opinion, BlueBearStevie has called it right and these "bids" are token attempts. I don't think there is any real intent on signing these players, in this window, and the board are doing a cosmetic job about their liquidity.
I don't disagree with their methods, I just wish they would be more honest with us.
19 Jan 2016 22:36:24
would it not be a bit counter productive to let other clubs know if that was the plan billy. if they told us that they were just testing the waters then the selling club would know that too lol.
20 Jan 2016 08:39:42
the way i see it they cannot afford not to sign acouple of players hibs have signed stokes who will score goals and give them a boost to be certain of promotion we need playersin.
20 Jan 2016 09:55:23
I tend to agree, as for all of us, this is merely speculation we don't know what's happening on the transfer front, this is partly the problem, we will never know if it is lack of funds, teams overpricing etc or not, MW is far too professional to comment in that regard it would be enlightening for us as fans to have MW or even DK come out and say there are funds available, blah blah, not saying I want a figure put on it as I don't want teams knowing we have cash to spend as the prices will rise but just some clarification, again MW has said before he was being backed fully, just a fresh comment would put a lot of people at ease. I truly hope the board are backing there man and the only reason these transfers haven't gone through or won't go through is that MW doesn't believe they add value at the prices their respective teams are asking for them.
20 Jan 2016 09:58:32
Camoo, I'm not asking them to test the water, I'm asking them to put reasonable bids in, if they can afford them and stop giving us all their crap. If they don't have the cash, stick to loans and out of contract signings.
What people must accept is that every penny spent outwith our income is at risk, due to the potential mine-fields in the court cases. e. g. Why do you think dk took so long to repay the £5m.
19 Jan 2016 20:09:45
Think warburton and the board are playing our signing policy absolutely brilliantly;we've been giving teams in Scotland millions over the years for players who were never worth it well done MW and DK right behind youz.
19 Jan 2016 19:26:02
Half way through another week and nothing this is getting pathetic, we don't even have a biscuit tin mentality because we don't even have a biscuit tin, this could really come back and haunt us! Come on Rangers get some players bedded in for next season!
19 Jan 2016 20:32:26
Come on Bongo chill, don't know why your so panicky, all will be well .
19 Jan 2016 19:23:18
I wish everyone would just chill out, take a deep breath and trust in our management team. They haven't let us down yet and are obviously playing the long game. I think MW's financial tactics are spot-on and designed to let everyone know we won't be the easy cash cows that we once were. Carry on Mark!
20 Jan 2016 03:53:45
I think we just don't have the money bigblue38, simple as that or we would of had at least one of the two players in at least. Watp.
19 Jan 2016 18:57:44
Wish we would either the players we are meant to be signing or forget about it. Becoming a bit of a joke to be honest . so much for king saying if our manager wants players in January he will get them.
19 Jan 2016 19:27:31
My thoughts exactly I can see this dragging on and we'll end up getting no-one! One minute a deal or 2 is close to being finalised the next we're miles away and the manager is saying if we don't get anybody that's fine as the squad is good enough? That's ok saying that when we're winning and injury free like we have been all season But the squad is only an injury or 2 away from being the opposite!
A bit of clarity on the drawn out transfers would be nice.
19 Jan 2016 17:59:15
Whats it with these two deals common gers just confirm them or move on I've heard for days about done deals but not according to sky sports news time to move on mw and dw time to look at other targets.
19 Jan 2016 13:53:45
I'd just like to point this out about warburton for those who think we should "just fork out what teams want for players", Waburton has never made a big bucks signing, he's made small gem findings, Andre gray for 500k and selling him for 8mil. Moses Odubajo for 900k and selling him for 3.5mil, can people not see that Warburton and his background staff do not do big money buys and love a bargain? their opinion is the only thing they go by, if they think a player is worth x amount, they will only pay x amount.
19 Jan 2016 16:11:09
Couldn't have put it better myself! The guys instincts about a player seem to be spot on, he investigates heavily in both on and off field attributes, he knows that one bad apple can destroy a full team.
19 Jan 2016 16:32:47
Again I think people are jumping the gun about how good the manager is. The 2 players you mention yeah he made the club a very tidy profit however I am assuming he signed more than just 2 during his stint as manager. Does anyone know how successful the others were? Not saying he isn't a good manager just think he still has to prove it at a higher level. Hopefully we can go up and he can be tested against the top teams in the country.
19 Jan 2016 17:55:01
Off the top of my head biffo, about 5 signings? Two selling for 3.5 and 8mil, one had personal circumstances leading to him having to return to spain and two unfortunately suffered injuries. Not bad really. Considering he only spent 2.5mil for those players and they got 11.5mil for them.
19 Jan 2016 20:02:53
stats like that you wonder why Brentford owners let him go.
19 Jan 2016 10:58:18
The deals with these 2 players is becoming more embarrassing each day it drags out, I understand us not wanting to spend outwith our means but on one hand you have MW saying a deal is looking almost done for a couple of players who you would assume is o'halloren and diagouraga and on the other you have T. Wright saying no other bid has been made and Brentford boss saying we're miles away with valuation! So what exactly is going on here? Show interest and put in pissy small bids we know won't get accepted but it gives the board the chance to say "at least we tried". if they won't meet the valuation move on and stop looking amateurish.
19 Jan 2016 12:39:42
Get real man, it's called negotiating, way of the world n aw that, if none of these deals come off then cest la vie, we have enough to go up I recon. Warbs and the board are now operating at a very high level of business acumen and professionalism, way way beyond previous regimes. Slowly but ever so surely we are coming forth and most on here need to get a reality check, all is good.
19 Jan 2016 12:56:06
Why would getting a player in for the right price be embarrassing? Offering Kevin Kyle, Ian Black and Sandaza 10k a week in the 3rd division was embarrassing. Think some people need to get some perspective.
The transfer window is open for a month, if we have no one in by then we can moan. Until then let's trust the people in charge's judgement, they've called it right up until now. Top of the league, good hungry young team and excellent management. What's not to be happy about.
19 Jan 2016 14:12:05
I'm happy with the team by the way I'm not happy at the heel dragging I also understand the concept of negotiating! The point is we have missed out on a few targets by going in low and fannying about with low offers.
19 Jan 2016 16:11:38
Stu1976, so instead of going low and fannying about we just go pay what the other club want for him even its over the value we have. That sounds like a plan! We should not be making a fool of ourselves and throw the money at them and get the player signed up asap!
19 Jan 2016 16:21:11
Listen guys, re the Scott Allan saga, that was a prime example and no matter what we were prepared to offer it would never have been enough, the manks put in a lower bid and that was that. To be honest I'm glad as I recon he's a bad un, we got holt a far better player . No point in paying over the odds for prima donnas, sandaza being a prime example, total guff.
19 Jan 2016 16:21:11
Listen guys, re the Scott Allan saga, that was a prime example and no matter what we were prepared to offer it would never have been enough, the manks put in a lower bid and that was that. To be honest I'm glad as I recon he's a bad un, we got holt a far better player . No point in paying over the odds for prima donnas, sandaza being a prime example, total guff.
19 Jan 2016 17:09:58
Ok so we spend most of the transfer window haggling over a few quid not prepared to meet the clubs valuation then we end up with no-one or a hurried buy, and waghorn, holt, Halliday or fullbacks get injured we don't have the quality to replace them, we're not talking millions of pounds here, I'm not saying just fork out what they want but at least make the offer realistic.
19 Jan 2016 10:38:10
something is holding MW back and I suspect the problem is getting financial backing to sign up the players. He is not the kind of guy to mess anyone about so I think his side of things is going to plan but I fear we don't really have the finances in place yet to do much on recruitment, without players going out the way first, and no-one is really worth much to us in transfer fees, if we are lucky to get any offers at all.
19 Jan 2016 12:56:16
Would agree with the view about trying to sell some of the fringe players no one wants them either because they don't think they are worth the price or their wages are too high. Seems the only way we can get rid of them is at the end of their contracts. Law, Shiels, Clark, Templeton and Crawford have all failed and it looks as though we will have to wait until the summer to get rid of them.
19 Jan 2016 16:14:35
I agree with the others but think Law is a changed man since MW has come in. Looks to be playing with a lot nore freedom and actually has an influence in a game.
And just like to point iut teams are interested in some of the named players. Clubs down south and in the spl have shown interest in Clark and Law. Not massive fees but frees up wages.
19 Jan 2016 10:26:30
Yous getting worried now why a club our size not got this deal done for o'halloran 500k c'mon wots tht now a days let's get real ths is getting embarrassing now when our rivals across the road seem to get players no bother it is worrying it times.
19 Jan 2016 12:58:49
Honestly don't believe O Halloran is worth £500k so why pay it. We have been stung buying over priced players. 4 goals this season in a terrible league hardly inspires much confidence about him. Still don't think we need a winger and would be better getting a striker.
19 Jan 2016 13:00:35
they paid 4mil for a dud from Dinamo Zagreb, why would we care what they do and how much they spend?
19 Jan 2016 13:20:31
At least they paid asking price and got the player good or bad sometimes a gamble is needed . however we seem to be the club penny pinching. and for all saying he isn't worth £500,000.wait and see when he is a rangers player suddenly he will be worth a million its only because we won't pay the money that some on here will de value him. brentford boy was world class when it was first muted we wanted him and the longer this saga goes on his value and class seems to be ebbing away from the same posters who were saying "excellent world class signing, better than anything in scotland" these are the people who need reality checks. what happened to the we want him we will get him diatribes that were getting quoted at start of warbs tenure?
19 Jan 2016 13:38:19
they paid OVER THE ODDS, on a dud and it will not repay them. we however will pay what we think is the correct amount, this is a lot better than the way it was before!
19 Jan 2016 13:44:40
onlyshowaround is correct here, why should we care what any other team spends and how they conduct their business, Warbuton stated if he gets 7/10 signings right then he's doing well, what ratio of correct signings does Deila have at the moment 2/10 probably! Great business model to strive for eh!
19 Jan 2016 15:41:09
A player is only worth what a club will pay.
19 Jan 2016 16:24:04
Maybe the 2 coming in are the 2 accricton lads?
19 Jan 2016 16:24:04
Maybe the 2 coming in are the 2 accricton lads?
19 Jan 2016 16:39:16
JohnnyG
Sorry but a player doesn't automatically become a £1m player plus I've never heard anyone class the Brentford player as world class. O Halloran isn't worth £500k and we don't need someone in his position. As for the Brentford player he has been shocking in the last 2 games very slow and cumbersome looking. It may be that he wants out and wasn't trying however I don't think it's good to be signing players with that attitude.
19 Jan 2016 20:46:31
MW stated he has 3 options for each position he wants to fill, I cringe listen to the moans about just give them the money and get the player, where have they been the last few years!
Trust the board and management, let's just be patient and see what happens, also the summer will be the time when you see money spent on three or four right decent players .
19 Jan 2016 10:04:34
I hope the O'Halloran deal is done asap and also the Latvian striker who scored a hat trick in a bounce game. With all the chances that we are creating I'm sure we'd score even more. Waghorn, who apparently isn't a striker, has scored 27 goals alredy! Also, what about Lewis McLeod stuck down at Brentford? The prospect of Holt, Halliday, Mackay and McLeod in the same team is mouth watering!
19 Jan 2016 10:30:37
Mcleod has been injured most of his time at Brentford, we could possibly get him on the cheap however it would be a risk, I'd love to see the kid in a rangers top again though, one of few who played for the shirt recently.
19 Jan 2016 13:01:19
Onlyshowaround
While I agree about his ability do you not think we aren't in a position to take such risks. That's over a year since he has played and it's worrying that he seems no further forward in playing. I hope he gets himself fit and has a great career unfortunately I doubt it will be with us.
19 Jan 2016 13:41:44
I Agree completely Biffo, it is too much of a risk.
19 Jan 2016 09:34:00
I don't pretend to know a fraction of what Warburton does about talent and the needs of the squad but I'm inclined to hope that the young Latvian and O'Halloran are priorities. We create so many chances that each game could end up in double figures.
I like our midfield and think Halliday is doing a great job in his position and Law is proving his worth. We'll lose Zelalem but have the two Accrington midfielders in the summer and maybe that's enough. I could well be missing the point on the Brentford player because I know absolutely nothing about him and have never seen him play but it's goal scorers for me right now.
19 Jan 2016 09:53:10
The board need to get these deals done asap. it should have been done over the weekend. i don't see personal terms being an issue as rangers could offer 8k a week to both, no way is ohallarn near that at saints. and doubt tounami near that, reading between the lines they both want to come. i think 500k each is a fair price for clubs involved. pay the money get the deal done or come out and say we are looking elsewhere. its getting embarrasing that our great club are haggling over this.
19 Jan 2016 10:03:10
laudrup, Toumani was on 10k a week in 2013 for Brentford, he is easily on 15k+ now, as he is one of their key players. and to be honest the issue probably isn't wages more like both teams asking for way to much money.
19 Jan 2016 11:32:21
Onlyshowaround. if they are asking for to much, why persist? we should be asking 1.how much.2.will u compromise on price yes or no. if its the latter we move on.
19 Jan 2016 12:59:56
that's not how any transfer has ever worked. a team will say 10mil and you put in a 7mil bid to test them, it's business. just because a house is valued at 200k doesn't mean I will put an offer of 200k in.
19 Jan 2016 18:18:20
Well that depends how much u want the house and potential profit down the line. and also other teams who could put in a bid.
19 Jan 2016 08:20:11
not totally a gers posst
but interesting to see Ashley spending money at newcasle he
is obviously aware if they go down it would cost him money
so DK get your cash out cause we are going up.
19 Jan 2016 10:38:51
I'm a bit confused to what Ashley spending and DK have to do with each other? do we want to be like celtic? giving out 4mil on a defender who has done nothing except get a red card or 2 and cost them a few goals in Europe? I prefer this spend a little and find a gem attitude that Warburton has, it honestly reminds me of Porto, yes Porto do it on a much bigger scale but you catch my drift. you have the likes of Jackson Martinez being sold for 24mil when they bought him for 6mil, Danilo being bought for 9mil and sold for 22mil, And Alex Sandro being bought for 6.5mil and being sold for 18mil, if we can replicate that on a smaller scale I'd be happy.
19 Jan 2016 16:41:07
Fans won't be happy next year if we get humped and finish 4th or 5th, of course I hope that doesn't happen, fans turn so quickly nowadays, no matter who the manager is.
19 Jan 2016 02:50:42
Just a thought gentleman and ladies. Going back to this time last year we lost young Lewis to Brentford for next to nothing and our last hope felt as though it had vanished in an instant, followed up with that old firm shambles and the realisation of how far we had fallen. however let me play devils advocate (not Dick) Lewis ain't kicked a ball since and hope he does again soon BTW but we could have easly lost Lee Wallace at that time for 500k (if not both) Now we have the Brentford boss and legend Weir at our football helm. Wallace captain and a rangers team to be proud of and a joy to watch. and in a strange way at least Vukic gave us hope and a fighting chance tale end of last season whilst Lewis would have been crocked. just a thought.
18 Jan 2016 23:52:54
Hi people any more info on the lad from st Johnstone, I reckon if we manage to get him and the Brentford lad all we need in the summer is an experienced CB in the mould of Davey weir and we"all be good to go for the premiership.
Thoughts on that.
19 Jan 2016 00:34:43
Centre forward?
19 Jan 2016 08:30:49
Do u not realise we haven't been in the prem for 4 yrs, we won't just roll back in to were we used to be, unless we spend proper money were in for a shock next year.
19 Jan 2016 09:23:55
Course I realise delboy, we finished 3rd last season in the 2nd tier and to be honest aiming top 6 is minimum and top 4 is a decent season so what's your point, its not like I said we"ll romp to the title.
19 Jan 2016 09:43:52
Sorry Lisa my post sounded arrogant, I just think it might take us a year or two to find our feet, unless we spend some money, I hope I'm wrong but I don't think the fans would be happy with a top 6 finish, hearts r doing great but they were only away one season and they r a big strong team, we might get kicked off the park at first, but we will get there, it might take time tho.
