Rangers Banter Archive January 19 2014

19 Jan 2014 12:34:09
Just read Ally's latest interview. Asked what made Wallace so sure there would be no administration in the short term, McCoist said:

"No idea, you'd have to ask him that. "

I'd have thought such a Rangers legend as Ally might have asked Wallace himself. Your thoughts guys?

OP what we all should bear in mind is Ally is quite a thick individual. He talks sometimes without engaging his brain which is why there are so many contradictions in what he says.
He is however under the microscope more than any previous manager and he is not showing up to well.
I think it is his lack of grey cells more than narcissism but there is no doubt there is more self interest in the yet more signings than we can afford.
The irony for me is having backed the Co-co the clown Shyte, Green and Mather the first man he is not embracing is probably the one that can hopefully turn our club around.

Ally's not as thick as his wage packet though. Great how you can be so poor at your job yet pocket £800k a year. No clue about tactics no clue about building a side and no clue about bringing on and developing young players. Club is sinking fast but Ally will be ok which is the main thing for him

Couldn, t agree more, the manager has wasted too much cash on players and his own salary for the division we are currently in. No other spl manager except lennon has spent as much

Green opted for Ally, not because he was a good manager but he was a means to an end. He got the fans onside and was paid his 50pieces of silver. [ Inflated salary and penny shares. ] Likewise with Stockbridge to sign off the ridiculous fees. [ High salary and bonus for promotion out of bottom tier. ]
It suited ''others'' to have them in place while Rangers were bled dry.
Wallace has a big job to keep us alive and eliminate the excess baggage that are tied in on lucrative contracts. Administration may be the only way but the big question would be---''Could we survive it?''.

@3 Lennon has made Celtic a fortune through CL and wanyama etc.

@2 agree with salary of 800k is excessive for league one but that has been reduced by 50% according to media reports.
Rangers have young players coming through, and we all know who they are.
If cuts need to be made hopefully its not only to the playing staff but Graham Wallace looks at all aspects of the club including board menbers salaries.

@6, yeah well also according to media reports, his wage cut has again been agreed, but has not yet been implemented, again!

@6 who are the young players coming through? Only McLeod has had a regular run in the side. Lately Aird has played but until he can string a lot of games together then it's a bit premature to include him.

You have to mind ally is in a position where he can't just come out and say whatever he wants, I know thtas what most of us would expect but his hands are tied, that said I have to say as much as I love him I've had enough there's no progress within the team a better manager would have this team purring and please don't tell me we haven't lost in the league cause I could have got the team to where we are the noo for a lot less than 400. 000 a year. and if we play tonight as we have been we might just lose our first game but hey its monday let's enjoy the game cause we miss it when its no on:)

@8. The only established young player in the current Rangers team is Macleod, and Aird has featured recently.
Possibly the others are squad players at the moment such as Crawford, but I see Murdoch, Gallacher and Telfer were on the bench v Forfar.
We have Gasparotto, and McKay out on loan.

19 Jan 2014 11:57:51
Sunday post. McCoist nobody told me to stop signing players. Is this guy for real?

Blueice

As any manager will tell you when you want to sign a player/players then you put your proposal's to the board and if they give you the go ahead the surely it's reasonable to assume that the money to fund the signing's is there
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Blueice I think you need to open your eye's, I believe the plan was to go into 2nd admin, that's why Ally was allowed to sign these player's, win league by more point's needed, to ensure Rangers would still be promoted, HE know's all that's happening at Rangers, don't be fooled by him, there is no way he would allow him self to be played the way he has, if he did'nt
Tam

Although another admin isn't wanted I feel it's the only way to get rid of McCoist. Make no mistake he is currently bullet proof as Rangers can't afford to sack him. As he is probably the highest earner at the club then he should be first to go in admin quickly followed by the other 2 stooges that make up our management team

@2 Am I the only bear on here who is horrified by the thought of another Admin? Why do we think it will only be a points deduction with the anger and hostility felt towards our club by the other clubs and their fans? Why are we all so certain we will survive another admission of utter and abject failure?
How many administrations are okay? Are we going for a world record of 10 in a row?
The "worlds most successful club" "Scotland's biggest"? Prestige anyone? Self respect anyone? Integrity and paying your way anyone? FFS bears get a grip

@4 Tam here, Nbear2 I don't support Rangers but genuinly feel for supprter's like yourself, certain Rangers fan's need to open their eye's, your right lot's of Rangers fans would be disappointed or indeed disgusted if your team went into admin again but a lot of them see it as a way out of the mess they are in and give no consideration to the people it would hurt, ie those with money owing to them and people who have given Rangers, new or old year's of loyal service
Tam

N2 why do you think blueice should open his eyes has he to open his eyes cause you think addmin was the plan what about his own opinion does that not count cause you think your right

Nbear we can be pretty sure it will be a points deduction and a transfer embargo. Er because that's the punishment for going into admin. As for this nonsense about second admin it would only be our first as we are a different company and it is the company that will go into admin not rangers football club.

Nbear - no your not the only one, I think it's disgusting that some think it's ok to go back into admin, the level of hypocrisy on here is unbelievable,

many shouted about over paid players then when Wallace asks them to take a pay cut to a more reasonable level they still find something to moan about


JG

@ 7 I'll let JG or others discuss your argument about this would not be a second Admin as in my eyes that opens up the Club's enemies argument that this is therefore a new club but if you think Rangers Football Club would not be diminished by this second failure in two years then you are deluded. And as it is a second event (if it happens) within two years I do not think the authorities will share your optimism on leniency. It would set a dangerous precedent. Employ people recklessly- get so far ahead and then go to the protection of the courts because you cannot pay your bills knowing you are so far ahead promotion is secured.
My hope is Mr Wallace can sort things out and we do not need to find if your confidence is well placed or not.

@7 it will be admin 2 that's why it's such a big points deduction

Nbear you are not the only one that thinks a second addmin is all wrong and jg I've got to agree with you on the wages thing

20 Jan 2014 09:51:48
Nbear spot on sir, should a 2nd admin happen apart from indignity we would suffer, it's already been suggested by the spfl that any club in admin should automatically be relegated and not just a points reduction. We all know who pulls the strings of rhegan & donkeycaster so it would almost certainly be 3rd div for us next season.

Honestly stop it no governing body could see it as a second admin it's a new company and if it goes into admin it will be the first time it has done so. Therefore we will be deducted points and a transfer embargo will be put in place. The people who own rangers are obviously steering us to this outcome for a reason and know what the outcome of such an event would be better than me or you. As for our history that is completely detached from the company and belongs to the football club. The top powers in football still acknowledged us as the same team therefore our history remains. So for the last time it will be the company that goes into admin not the team. And since it is a new company ie not the same one that went into admin then liquidation it can only be counted as the companies first admin simple fact.

Nbear as for me not thinking the club would not be diminished as a result of the company that owns rangers going into admin I never said that I was for it as I certainly am not. My point as stated was if it did happen it could only be counted as first admin as it is the first time the present company has went into admin. As for the rules I do not make them someone else does and they decided the punishment for going into admin are a points deduction transfer embargo and fine. I also did not state that I agree with these rules either. But unfortunately I think we will find out soon enough.

@ pat the ranger it's admin 2 that's why its been well reported that we would be hit with a 25 points deduction and not 15 like hearts and Dunfermline it maybe a different company but it's the club that get the punishment so it's most definitely admin 2

{Ed039's Note - ffs it gets more complicated every day)