Rangers Banter Archive September 18 2012

 

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18 Sep 2012 23:35:52
Ally just doesn't get it. Yet again he is disappointed, from this time last year every time the team was shocking, he was disappointed. Does he not realise he is the manager and if the team are not carrying out his instructions or punting he ball up the park instead of passing to each other, then he should be doing something about it. Unfortunately his tactics have not changed one iota from last year. I said then it was analogue football in a digital age, it is now worse because YE players aren't quick enough to chase the long punt up the park. We are in for a long, long season. Do you think McColl would step down a couple of leagues after they beat us?

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I'd rather have Ian McColl than that gash tonight from Ally.

Wonder how he's gonna try and deflect the result 2moro?

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Ally has been pumped out early of every competition he's ever been handed.
This mentoring the young prince to take over doesn't work. It should be select the best guy in the market every time. The whole strategy of Walter mentoring Ally was/ is ridiculous.

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18 Sep 2012 23:32:38
We are going to get absolutely pumped by motherwell if we play like that. It is sad to say but ally do the best thing and walk away.

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18 Sep 2012 23:32:15
Tonights performance was an utter embarrisment. Our team NEEDS to win these games in cups as this is where the income is needed from to pay some of the underskilled and overpayed SPHELL players we signed.

The youngsters at The Rangers are showing much more skill than the trash we have signed and this is what we have to play with for 2 years.

Ally Mcoist is not up for the job and the players need to grow a set of balls and start playing football instead of punty up the park. FFS my border collie can header a ball better from a 60 yard punt.

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18 Sep 2012 23:31:29
Go he must, the time it is !... Yoda RFC

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18 Sep 2012 23:31:04
Feel tonight that the whole thing is going to crack ,once and for all----was tonight the final straw?It's like a nightmare scenario.It's all coming down on top of us.Am I alone in thinking this tonight?

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Am absoluely beelin' with McCoist's tactics tonight.

We all called Celtic bottlers last season but tbh this Rangers side are just as bad. Ally can't get them up for a game, he's not got an eye for a player and his tactical awareness is awful.

Billy Davies for me!

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18 Sep 2012 23:30:02
Said weeks ago. Ally is a legend but he cost us dear last season and there is more income p**sed away! Enough is enough make him a club ambassador or something but he never will be a manager and Green knows it too! We need somebody in there to kick some ass. Can you imagine any player whining in Jock Wallace's day like the wimp Sandaza "their players tackled too hard" Big Jock would have demanded 50 up the sand dunes for him!

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Why make him a club ambassador? Just sack him and be done with it. It is a business not some soap opera.

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He'd be a great barman in hospitality.

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& Green wants to give him a 25 year contract!

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18 Sep 2012 23:28:12
rangers are a disgrace better hav a long hard look at themselfs if they cant even win at ibrox absolute joke! angry bear

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18 Sep 2012 23:25:41
Do any of The Rangers players know that they are allowed to shoot from outside the box. This latest result is something we never thought we would see.. things are now getting embarrassing for this great club...new man driving the bus....is this needed?...love McCoist to death but is this the time to resign and admit that legends don't always make good managers...John Greig was a example of that....forever a legend...forever loved...as will it be with Ally.

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Bad result poor crowd

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Rangers have never had a decent out the box goal scorer for years tbh. Always needed to be walked up the park and played around the box or punted in on the hope someones in the box.

You can see this from how **** we are are at free kicks we have no decent ranged goal scorers.

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Keep hearing Ally getting compared to John Greig as a manager but remember Greigy was managing in the top flight against Aberdeen under Fergie, Dundee United were superb back then under Jim McLean and Celtic were pretty decent too.

Greig did much better than anything Ally's done so far.

& To be honest I wish we'd have kept on Le Guen and given him time.

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Has there ever been a worse Rangers manager than McCoist? His record in the cup competitions is disgraceful and in each competition we have been put out by less than average opposition. No of which has went onto win the competition. I feel embarrassed for McCoist when u see him on the touchline arms folded and totally clueless. Let's make no mistake, Peterhead, Berwick Rangers and QOS played the better football against us and but for some luck they would have all beaten us. Ally isn't the man for the job and should go back to question of sport where at least he knows what he is doing

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@3 Totally right mate Grieg got us playing european style football and put Juventus, PSV Eindhovn then nearly Cologne in quarters of THE European CHAMPIONS Cup , I still recall the beautiful passing of the 3-2 Bobby Russell goal v PSV, take into acount we won both cups and were up against new firm and timmy in League Griegs firs season was A MILE ahead of Ally. FFS Ally has had us knocked out VERY competition entered at nearly the earliest opportunity every time against Maribor , Malmo, Falkirk an average Dundee United and finally QOS. It is a racing certainty we will be beaten by a fast paced FOOTBALLING team like Motherwell I fear 5-0 or more , please save the Gers you alledgedly love some cash and walk away.... from your dissapointed attitude , Grieg, Wallace, Le Guen and Smith would have been F*****G Raging at these level of performances.... Go Ally NOW... george

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18 Sep 2012 23:21:23
just back from the game what the hell was that? referee come on that was shockin. was like he was being paid 2 be that bad

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Some of the refs descisions were bad from what i seen on TV but sometimes they cant see everything on the pitch.

Defo offside goal at 93mins though.

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Ref gave us the penalty mate. That should've won us it.

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Offside ma bahoochie.Faurie played him on!

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18 Sep 2012 23:18:16
ally knew no wonder he wanted the game moved first time around funny thing is it did not matter (love karma)

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Best way for Ally to keep his dire cup runs going was to get them put back a week! Sack Ally now.

GB

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18 Sep 2012 23:04:08
Does Ally sack Chuck or does Chuck sack Sally?!?

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Think Ally should Chuck it before Chuck Chucks him out for Chucks sake.....DH

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18 Sep 2012 23:03:41
I've already said before I don't like Alexander. We need a keeper who can dominate the box and start breakaways quickly. Not just booting the ball upfield and waving his hands like a cheerleader.
Go now and take McCoist, Durrant and McDowell with you Neil.
Give a youngster a chance - what have we got to lose ??

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Alexander booting the ball up the pitch to a lone stirker is old Walters tactics. If this is all Mcoist is going to do then sack him.

3rd devision players get in about the ball playing rough football with hard tackles. This type of anti football will not work here.

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18 Sep 2012 23:02:00
think ally,who will be bak in his tv job soon and will now surely
depart, made his biggest mistake. by not signing a few guys from the first division,who knew how to scrap against these teams. in 2 years we cudve signed better players for the spl. thanks ally but its time to go son

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Hope not , I,ll need to buy a wider telly.....DH

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What he should go on tv so he can say how everyone is against yous and that it is all hate and how everyone is wrong to think a bad thing about the club? He should never be around a camera for what he says only causes bad things to happen to good ppl

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He won't get his job back - the BBC seems to like Dawson and Tuffers as the captains. And Ally might be a wee bit annoyed at the Beeb - seems anyone associated with the club is.

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18 Sep 2012 23:01:20
I've seen more upbeat funeral processions than what I've seen tonight coming out of Ibrox!

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18 Sep 2012 22:56:29
ally tonite untenable mate. have some dignity walk away, and bring in mccall

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I always reverse things. Imagine Lennon was having these kinds of results. We'd all be on here Pi**ing ourselves laughing at what a joke he is.

25 year contract for Ally - that has to be the daftest thing Green has said yet!!

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I said McColl before the end of last season and got shot down. Imagine if he had been in Since May!

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@1 I think him putting ppl in danger with what he says like demanding names to get ppl all heated up to do something to good ppl is just the start of the dumbest things he says.

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Imagine ...lennon..instant karma...col

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18 Sep 2012 22:51:17
did anyone else notice tonight almost 100% of balls punted up field came straight back at us ??
Not one player could jump, head the ball. or even win a 50-50 challenge.
Utter rubbish and the blame has to go to the coaching staff. The players can't be blamed for playing out of position, out of their depth, and most of all playing with no purpose.

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QOS wanted it, we're hungry, our duds were blue primadonas .... Thinking their superior.

You know, we're a new club and need to ditch any badges logos etc to do with oldco.... It's not us now... It's bad luck.

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What a stupid thing to say. We are stuck with the badge and always will be. We can moan about the team players mangers etc, but one thing will remain the same, the badge! ?(unless it gets a design lift)

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18 Sep 2012 22:48:50
mccoist aint good anuf plain and simple gets paid to make decisions and constaly makes the wrong ones just stands with arms folded aint good anuf

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He's weak.
No leadership there.
It's not his thing poor lad.

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18 Sep 2012 22:44:24
Super Ally or not - it's time to go.

Tactics again were abysmal and to line up AT HOME with one recognised striker beggars belief.

I live in N.Ireland and see better football quality and effort here in the Irish League.

Bring in Billy Davies - he's a bluenose and would do a better job. Oh yes and clear out all the deadwood backroom staff. Other clubs would kill for the facilities they have to work with at Murray Park

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Would love Billy Davies tbh but would he come to the 3rd div?

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Op Why does it need to be a bluenose all the time?No bigger bluenoses than Ally and Greig -----open your eyes wider.Go for the BEST ,not the colour.We need a good manager----end of story!

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Good post number 2

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18 Sep 2012 22:38:43
I've always been one to be patient with McCoist but after that performance tonight my patience has worn thin. He can't seem to motivate the player and they don't seem to gel as a team at all.
His signings and managerial record is appalling.
I would love to see him, just once, erupt in anger at at his player, sadly I don't think thats ever going to happen.

He hasn't got a clue, it's as simple as that. He can't seem to sorth that defence out, they are all over the place.

I think McCoist should do what's best for the club and leave before he tarnishes his reputation. He just can't change a game. It's time to go!

Motherwell are going to destroy us.

TTG

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Well he erupts at everyone else saying how everyone is against you and having a kick to get ppl to games that he has no more energy to focuss in players and actually coaching.

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18 Sep 2012 22:37:58
What an absolute shambles I was never one to jump on the band wagon to axe Coisty but the time has come for the sad excuse for a manager to go he is not the man to take us back to where we belong how long ate we gonna put up with the lame excuses that our away form will pick up with the players we have we should be winning every game at a canter and that's not being disrespectful but the new signings have all been playing at a higher level than they are at the moment I am honestly upset at how poorly we played tonight we have no creativity going forward god only knows what's gonna happen against Motherwell action needs to be taken now is the time to make a change for the better ally's management style isn't right for this team he needs to think long and hard about what's happening if he is to keep his job I can't express how angry I am at tonight's result I am one angry bear that is rapidly losing trust and faith OVERPAYEF BOTTLEJOBS

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18 Sep 2012 22:50:54
What a shocker tonight poor show lads, some of those players need to take a good look at their performances.....can't blame the manager all the time

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The manager picks the team - so live by the sword or die by it.
100% the managers fault with the backroom team. More like the darkroom team !!

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Lol ! Cant blame the manager all the time... Lets look at his record... Knocked out the Champions league qualifier.... Knocked out the Europa league.... Knocked out the league cup... Loses a 15 point league lead.... Sitting 4th in the 3rd division and now knocked out the Ramsdens cup.... Can anyone see a pattern here?

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Not 1 person can logically argue with the the above posters point. Its black and white for everyone to see. He is an absolute Legend and always will be, but he isn't a manager. Gutted at the fact.

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I am glad people are looking at things this way as it is a results business and Ally is not doing it which is very very clear. Can anyone point out what he has done on the pitch, of any worthy note, since he got here?

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18 Sep 2012 22:44:10
You think it can't get any worse but it just did.What a load of rubbish!No words can explain how I feel.

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18 Sep 2012 22:42:38
ok am one of allys biggest fans. i hope he is offered a role in the club. but am afraid it is not working is it. i was thinking billy davies. but i think it should be stuart McCall. its time

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Why would Stuart McCall leave his team for Div.3?Get a grip!

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18 Sep 2012 22:41:39
Another poor performance, the ref tonight should have sent off another QOS player in extra time, when are the players at Ibrox going to realise that the fans will turn against them if they dont start playing better, McCoist must go , well done QOS

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18 Sep 2012 22:40:29
Give ally that 25 year deal now.Henke7

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18 Sep 2012 22:21:24
Let's face it, we aren't just in the 3rd division, we ARE a 3rd division team. OR we need a new manager to get more out of these players. I can now see why Wallace stayed with, no-one else would have him.

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Ally truly is a legend.
Worse Rangers manager record ever.

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The motherwell game will be super allys farewell.

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18 Sep 2012 22:07:46
Waiting for the onslaught! .... waiting,
waiting, still waiting ..... f sake put
a wig on big Kyle tell him he's Lionel
Messi and get him on the park! ma
blue bloods boiling! LB

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18 Sep 2012 22:36:28
Although I agree that Fat Sally isn't right for the job aren't I right in saying they train on astro or at least indoors?

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No ur nt right.

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18 Sep 2012 22:36:00
Charles Green has to stand up now and sack Ally , we are a total embarrassment, Q.O.S ffs.

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Ally must stay. He gets more laughs now than he ever did. Certainly worth 5% of the club per year or £1m.

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18 Sep 2012 22:35:10
Terrible performance from rangers and the referee. Let's play a long ball up to sandaza who can't header a ball. Then we went down to ten men and Alexander was still launching it up to no one. Ally your are absolutely clueless tactically and the trialists you signed f..k me

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18 Sep 2012 22:34:39
I think it's time mccoist leaves! He should know he isnt good enough for the job and we could seriously miss out on promotion if this continues it is absolutely gaff! Pretty embarrassing!

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Maybe money not there to pay him off,that's why he won't get sacked.

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18 sep 2012 22:32:45
absolutely disgraceful cant get any worse than tonite..sorry to say it but ally must go..sad days fellow bears

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Yes it can get worse.

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18 Sep 2012 22:32:33
25yr contract, you're having a laugh Chuck!!

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18 Sep 2012 22:31:36
Great game tonight !
Does anyone still the rangers will win promotion and be back in Spl anytime soon!!

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Not sure about promotion but that's ok their in fifa 13 lol

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18 Sep 2012 22:30:55
I'd give mccoist till nov, another john greig?

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Op. Don't think they can afford the money to get rid of him----he needs to walk for the club's sake.

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18 Sep 2012 22:29:36
ive just watched our mighty team being humbled by the south this is as low as it gets bring in billy davies asap to save us and start playing football again

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18 Sep 2012 22:29:24
McCoist must go tonight. Clueless, tactically inept and out his depth in the 3rd division. Team totally spineless with no flair or appetite for the 3rd division. McCoist can't even get a team into the Ramsdens cup semi finals. How bad does it have to get?

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There's no way Green will sack him unless fans vote with their feet. Don't turn up, empty seats and he will get sacked.

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Good post and very well said friend

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18 Sep 2012 22:28:34
Beaten at home now and put out a cup by a third tier team.
The nightmare goes on.

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Your a fourth tier team so taking a third tier team to penalties is an achievement I believe. Haha

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No - put out by a second division team - ie one in a higher division than The Rangers FC.

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@2: third tier, not third division. The second division is the third tier of Scottish football.

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18 Sep 2012 21:58:59
why dose Alexander have the purple top on it similar to the blue kit (sack the kit man)

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@op that's the very least of the problems.Sack the manager,leave the kit man alone!

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18 Sep 2012 21:43:32
2 2 with queeon of the south at ibrox 10 men or not at ibrox its embarassing who are we going to draw with next forres mechanics.

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We would be as well no turning up if that's the refereeing we get all year.
Their 2nd was about 3yards offside, and the boy that scored there last penalty should have been off the park.
Wonder if mr o'reilly will be demoted to the juniors after his display.

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How should the guy that scored the last pen have been off? Referees can't be booking players for every tackle. He got a yellow that's all he deserved. Rangers are a poor team that have no Devine rite to win every game. The sooner players realise they can't just turn up and win games. The fans booing thorought tho would really inspire them.

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18 Sep 2012 21:34:27
Real Madrid V man city what a game!
Well done Ronaldo! Amazing!

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To them that ticked "disagree" you obviously know nothing about football, it was a cracker of a contest end to end edge of the seat football. Real deserved the win.

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@1 Agree,what a game.Jealosy makes people press 'disagree'----it was a fantastic game,top drawer.It's mean spirited fans who can't see it,can't see past their own team in it's dire state. {Ed039's Note - Sky plus send it, will watch it later on, Ronaldo is a special player and it's guys like that make us watch football and forget our own teams problems for 90 minutes)

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If you went to Ibrox u missed it for tripe!

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18 Sep 2012 21:01:06
templeton treated at southern general hospital no more fancy hospitals any more no more parks of hamilton buses for transport scary times ahead

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Did je take the 48 to get there, no? i wouldnt worry about it timmy

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Why would a 3rd division team have these things

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Just the same as they have players on thousands of £s a week. Why? Its only Div3

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18 Sep 2012 21:00:11
oh dear....looks like the chip shop cup might be a step too far? lol!


taco

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Saft penalty to save Newco Rangers

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18 Sep 2012 20:58:22
I dont care that "he doesnt do walking away". I dont care he is a rangers legend. I dont care that he is my favourite ever player. I dont care that he is a die hard rangers man... And I dont care if we come back and win this game 10-1. Mcoist will never EVER be good enough as a manager for Rangers. Out Out Out!!

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Ally's soft.
He's a fat softie, end of!

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Your not a very caring person are you .."..DH

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To be absolutely fair QOS don't look a bad team but.....

I said last week that there wa no way Green would sack Ally before the share issue. And now I'm thinking.... maybe it would do a lot better if we knew somebody more tactically aware was at the helm.

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Have to say think your right. this will get worst. What will happen when we meet Motherwell. McCoist has to go now. Yet who do you get in. The squad is thin already can anyone turn it round. taking Mckay off was crazy. Ally must go.

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Can't defend him, not good enough ,he signed these wasters...no excuses ,pap Kyle back to the glue factory, and see if Calderwood or Curbishley will have us...went on too long for any more rubbish about the players being new to each other...some looked new to a ball...did'nt happen for Greig, gave him too long, won't happen for McCoist, get rid.

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Mccoist get tae ffs you r ruining this club as a poor Walter smith with no ideas and the worst record ever. Worse than Paul le guen ffs . One up front at home against qots. Charles do the the decent hint and move him on. My greatest player and hero but never ever a manager. Do the decent thing and give us a chance of getting out of this league. Players do not even look fit against part timers. Have a look at yourself get someone in with ideas welcome home billy Davies.

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18 Sep 2012 20:52:55
Was dressing up as a blue seat optional tonight? Haha they just scored your brutal

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McCoist is surely toast.

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The joke about dressing up as a seat is well past it's sell by date. Stopped being funny about 100 years ago

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Thats rich coming from a celtic fan! worse fans ever cant even fill a stadium on cl nights

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Why are you worrying about celtic and the champs lge,your team just got humped in the pawnshop cup lol

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18 Sep 2012 20:49:05
Just watched Charles Green on BBC Alba......jeez he can talk some crap! Never mind the smartass rhetoric Chas get the dosh oot you promised, build a team and get us a decent manager.

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Where's the 19 international targets?

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Green's been collared by the SFA again.
Then he goes outside to us fans and says he's the only one in 3 years speaking up for this club. On ITV how embarrassing.

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18 Sep 2012 20:34:36
half time, thank goodness what a poor performance, we need someone to show them how to pass the ball to each other and whhere the opposition goal is. what a load of rubbish

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18 Sep 2012 19:22:31
The problem with the situation is Green forgets who he's said what to either that or it's just pure incompetence.

In one sentence he's bought the club then it's the history of the club then it's titles and trophies.

We all know what liquidation means, it's the end, it's that definitive break in the 140 year timeline.

The argument it was the company not the club continues to loose what little credibility it ever had!

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Anyone who says liquidation is the company and not the club is one of two things (1) uneducated in such things and doesn't understand (2) A liar.
It's not a grey area that can be debated.
It's not in anyone's gift to give history to Green's new club. Neither the SFA, the SPL nor the SFL can give the old club's history or titles to Green's new club. Oh and D&P cannot sell such a thing either. They only sold tangible assets; stadium, training ground and a car park leasehold.
Wake up guys! You're being fleeced.

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But he knows what buttons to push to try and get the fans behind him.Who taught him that?

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Reply to 1: If thats the case then we owe no debts and cannot be held accountable for the old co's problems or does all the tick want it both ways>??

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Remember cg promised to pay all footballing debt and if found guilty of dual contracts any fine will be paid by newco or licence will be revoked sorry to bear bad news guys

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The fines and penalties aren't because it's the same old club, these are Green's acceptances to get into Scottish football and play!!

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18 Sep 2012 18:53:55
i cant believe we keep having a go at celtic going to get beat with everyone in the cl , so what they are the only team carrying the beacon for scotland and will be for the next few year , ok their supporters might hype up the amount of money they will make in the competition but believe me its worlds apart from what we will make . stop making it sound like sour grapes

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Celtic fan here. I have several good friends who are big Rangers supporters and have continued to support their team through thick and thin. Green,McCoist, McDowell and Durrant are taking this kind of supporter for granted. Its time the supporters voted with their feet and stopped attending games until a new manager is in place. JJ

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18 Sep 2012 13:53:44
All the talk of Rangers/The Rangers/Sevco can anyone tell me who owns what.

Looking on companies' house at RFC 2012 plc you have the names to expect Murray, Whyte, Ellis, Bain etc. That would say to me the original Rangers.

Then look at The Rangers Football Club it has Green. Newco etc.

When you look at them Green is not on anything to do with Old Rangers and Vice Versa Murray etc are nothing to do with new rangers.

This would say to me that Green has nothing to do with Old Rangers therefore no debt tied to old club can't be punished for previous owner's mismanagement but also no trophies history etc.


So how can the SPL go after The Rangers Football Club especially when RFC 2012 Plc is still a company all be it in administration. Surely any punishment should be directed to the old Rangers and not the new.

Therefore stripped titles (if it happens) fines, transfer embargo etc should not effect The Rangers Football Club.

Call me stupid if you like but I don't understand how the 2 companies can be 1 as everybody keeps saying that Green bought Rangers etc. I would say Green bought assets from rangers i.e. Ibrox, Murray Park and football license. Everything else remains with the old rangers.

Ian

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Are 2012 in administration ?

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Ian - it's relatively simple - we have a club I.e. Rangers - this club was owned and their business dealings run by oldco, now owned and business dealings run by newco. The SFA transferred the club owners share from oldco to newco. The point here, no matter how much, how many people wish to ignore it, the club that is Rangers is one and the same

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If you look at Green's post he can't decide either, i am planning to buy shares but, i don't know if i am buying shares in the club or the company. If you look at the old rangers then those shareholders thought that they held shares in the club, yet we have the new rangers who are a continuation of the old rangers ie we still have our history and they have nothing. So i'm not going to bother untill it get's cleared up.

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Nobody has ever claimed that Green bought the old company! He bought the football club from the old company! Stadium, training complex, supporters and staff all come as part of the package ( As long as the people involved agree to move to the new company of course!)! It's these things that make a football club! Nothing to do with figures on a balance sheet! A club is only a club when it has people there to keep the story alive! That job belongs to the Rangers support! We are the life essence and as long as one of us remains then our club will never die!
On a seperate note....how much time to the Celtic support spend obsessing over Rangers and researching them online? Seriously FFS! You lot have an important game this week....surely your time would be better spent...oh I don't know....supporting your own team!
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Bang on mate, we also bought the history as far as I'm aware. So from what I gather Murray etc will be held responsible financially for 1872 gers but unfortunately we can be stripped of titles, cos as I said we bought the clubs history. Bit of a gutter but oh well, can't erase memories.

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3} so rangers football club 1872 won nothing , is that what you're saying .we have our history and they have nothing. surely if they have nothing you have nothing, if you are a continuation.. i don't think theres a word of that , that makes any sense

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I stated this in a previous post, and was told I wasn't a Gers supporter by a poster who wouldn't or couldn't put his name to it .
17:9:12 at 10:15:48 3). I have been a Gers supporter since Caldow, Shearer Brand & Baxter so it is you who is talking crap, probably longer than I still go to the games on occasional basis but will admit to not being a season ticket holder now. As I am not as able as I once was. Whatever has happened to Rangers was not our fault everybody knows that but that doesn't mean we should stick our head in the sand and blame everyone else. If wrong doing by the old club is proved then you or me will have to accept the consequences if we like them or not but it won't be the Rangers who will suffer but the fans who supported the club through thick and thin in the old days till we were lied to by board and management of the old club in recent years.
So stop whingeing and let's get the club back to where it should be respected by our fellow football fans.
Bobby

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Re shares,been a supporter all of my life
now in my late 50s and would have loved the opportunity to have had shares in rangers.now this chance is available to me
im still not convinced in this guy green ,still suspect there,s something untoward going on with him and his backers so ,sadly im going to pass on this opportunity hope im horribly wrong time will tell.

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Where does the history belong ?? with the team on the football side or in the board room with the business side i would have thought the titles belonged to the playing side so if its the same club then why did he have to buy them

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Blah blah blah, club/company, blah blah blah, you're obsessed, blah blah blah.

No wonder people are sick of both sides of the Old Firm!

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History belongs with Rangers founded 1872 and incorporated 1899. The original Rangers under D&P being liquidated.

DO NOT BELIEVE CHARLES GREEN'S LIES. Is CG a Rangers fan? We knew everyone on the old board we knew all their faces and what Directorships they held. Have you seen the faces of his backers? And listened to them? Are they Rangers men?

Rangers fans need to be persuaded in the short term it's the same club to get their money. Using their love of their club to fleece them. I saw CG on STV tonight, thoroughly disingenuous outside talking to queuing fans. Wake Up!

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18 Sep 2012 13:03:38
My team for tonight:
GK Alexander
RB Faure
CB Perry
CB Cribari
LB Wallace
RM McKay
CM Black
CM Shiels
LM Stella
CF Sandaza
CF McCulloch

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Ally will never play 2 up top he is walter in disguise

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To reply (1) Walter in disguise? Miller/Boyd Jelavic/Miller..etc..
BR

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18 Sep 2012 11:04:33
mancini has said you cannot win the champions league in a fiat 500, but u can in a ferrari. i have to admit that immediately conjured images of celtic fans half a dozen at a time piling into a fiat 500 enroute to the games

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.....and you'll certainly not even make it onto the boat on a tandem!

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@

Got to be the greatest ever reposte I have seen on here. Absolutely fantastic, never has there been a wittier reply etc.....................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Great post. they.l be lucky to get 2 points

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@2: yours comes close.

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Sorry, mate. I know the bears are suffering but I thought you would appreciate a wee bit of banter. Morton Supporter, looking forward to playing the bears in a couple of years if you ever get your act together. Stan

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Got to be in it to win it.

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18 Sep 2012 10:51:54
Hearts have announced that they are struggling to pay players already. Crickey we are only a few weeks into the season and one of the bigger teams in Scotland are already on the ropes. Now dont tell me that the SPHell dont need us. First of many me thinks!!

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Hearts couldn't do it on time when rangers were there last year so what you talking about, stop exaggerating your teams importance

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Nd they did the same last season , twice i think, so whats your point. shamrock

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What has changed with hearts they struggled last year to pay players when your old club where in the SPL and they are struggling this year. Only difference being is that Rangers are no more.

Ian

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Works both ways...... Your already increasing admission prices to try and cover costs, if that doesn't work what next,another new company.....think youll find all the teams need each other

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Has Green not just put your prices up? Careful now.

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Any more Hearts (sfl3 feeder club) players want to join the Mighty Glasgow Rangers. ha Mad Vlad ohhhh so sad

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Dhim fishing is so easy. One little comment and already 5 Celpish bites lol. Wheres ma net

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Vlad spent 3£30m on his basketball team last season £15m this season. Talk of Hearts going bust is p*sh

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How is it p,Sh vlad ain't interested in football anymore and has stated many times he won't be investing anymore money in hearts so I think the only thing that's p,sh is your comment

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Reply to poster , whether you are needed or not is not important ,its more a case of not wanted as the voting showed , and before you say everyone is struggling well they were struggling last season only not as badly as you lot , so concentrate on div 3

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Yes ofcourse the SPL needs you. But what did you do,you went bust with debts of £tens of millions endangering the rest of Scottish football.

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@7: how'd you know they're Celtic fans? Answer is, you don't.

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18 Sep 2012 10:04:55
Times are tough financially so thought i would help out Celtic supporters to save some money. TOP TIP: Celtic fans... Save money on expensive football strips by simply strapping a fake penis to your forehead. It will be obvious to everyone eho you support at a fraction of the cost.

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You do realise viz hasnt been funny for twenty years? like yourself.

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Where can i buy one , you seem to be an expert on the subject. and if we can't see yours just wondering where you keep it ,, shamrock

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I look forward to seeing you at the Edinburgh Festival next year.
You should have given your team some financial advice last year and then they might still be in existance.
Al(ly must stay)

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Where'd you get the fake penis from? Your wives bottom drawer per chance? Don't be so heartless, stick the batteries back in and put it back.

Figaro

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To poster , i think you will find ally bought all the penises in the transfer window

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18 Sep 2012 08:21:46
The Celtic fans saying they will earn 20 millon from the champions league are the same ones on here last year spouting tosh about earning 7 millon from the Europa league, FACT is they earned 1.8 million before player bonuses, only good thing is they won't need to worry about win bonuses because they won't win any of the 6 ties.

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And unlike the Gers they don't have three billionaires waiting in the wings.

Must be true if Charlie said so.

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For the avoidance of doubt here is the breakdown of the Champions League revenue for clubs:-

Playoffs: 2,100,000
Group stage: 3,900,000
For each match in group stage: 550,000
Group match victory: 800,000
Group match draw: 400,000
Round of 16: 3,000,000
Quarter-finals: 3,300,000
Semi-finals: 4,200,000
Losing finalist: 5,600,000
Winning the Final: 9,000,000

Added to that gate receipts, corporate hospitality and match day revenue and you're talking another £6m easy.

Please do bear in mind that Celtic Park has a substantially bigger capacity than Ibrox so before when Rangers were liquidated and they got into Europe's premier competition (through winning tainted titles with players they couldnt otherwise afford) their match day revenue would be less than what Celtic have the ability to raise!

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Oh my, jealousy abounds in here!
We're doing the huddle in the champions league.
Rankers fans= green with envy.

You will never get back into CL ever! Because you won't be allowed to cheat ever again. And the cheating is the only reason you ever got in CL.

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My my, bitter bear. You have to be in the competition to win a game. Celtic ARE in the competition, and they are in it on merit, not by very strange financial transactions that bought "success". You, if you behave and beat the electricians, plumbers and brickies that you have to play (worthy and honest opponents by the way) over the next few years, may get a game in the CL in 2016, at the earliest. I wish I was getting 7000 a week to play against amateurs, same standard as i played against.

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Green eyed monster rearing its ugly head. hows life in div 3?

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Who gives a toss what celtic do? It is not hard to ignore everything about them. Don t worry about them, let them support their own club and you support yours.

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Tainted titles?....we'll see,nothing happened yet....and as for the"substantially bigger capacity"...when did the green hordes last fill it? how's your home average gate doing against ours?...and to the other doblie, we were in the Champions league at it's inception....you would lke to think we cheated for years....but there is no evidence for anything before 2001, is there?...unless it's in the "dossier"....and you ain't heard the last of the Junihno thing either bhoys....life is great in Div 3...how's life in the "competitive" ESPEELL?

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Still no reply on were the so called 7 million from Europa league came from last year, if we cheated in Europe number 3 why not give our co efficient points back? Is it because Scotland would have nothing left as rangers earned them all?

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@7: the Juninho thing has been put to bed by the SPL. The only reason anyone on here won't have heard the last of it is because certain obsessed (lol) and deluded Rangers fans keep banging on about it. That's even though other Rangers fans have told them to give it up.

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To the Celtic fan going on about attendances. Will yous fill the stadium as I'm sure last week that lowly third division team yous are so interested in had a bigger attendance than the so called worlds greatest fans.

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Again Op great post man they really bit on that one they love coming on here sl,gging us of but can't take it when we do it back. As for the muppet who gave us the breakdown no chance do you get 2 mil for playoffs so you might get 3.9 mil for group stages you will never make six mil in hospitality over three games away boil your head

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Figures have been released and it is between 17 and 20 million.

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@11 noddy, your so wrong. Look up uefa website on champions league money it is 2.1m for play offs. All other breakdowns that was posted are indeed 100% correct! Happy days!

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@11: read the post you're slating properly - not just from hospitality but gate receipts etc. too. Don't be a muppet all your life.

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BBC news tonight(you know you love and trust them from the old days)---- it's £20million for Celtic for C.L. These are the days!

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Might be wrong but i dont think you get to keep your gate receipts as the stadium belongs to uefa on cl nights,thats why certain areas must be given up and season book holders moved to other areas,you may get to keep a percentage though

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In reply to 10th post.

The attendance at Ibrox tonight was 23 thousand. Thats a decent turnout for a midweek game in the diddy cup but even you must agree at less than half full your not in a position to be talking about attendances anymore mate.

P.s Celtic v Benfica tomorrow night is a sell out.

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18 Sep 2012 06:56:16
I come on this site often just to hear what is being said but its starting to get quite boring and annoying when people keep referring to us as sevco/newco ect.. WE ARE RANGERS always have been always will be and for those who keep arguing about history what is that big deal as all I need to know is that I have the memories from being there at Euro run '92, UEFA cup final in 2008 and other cup wins and famous results all I care about now is what we win from here on in just like whatever we win at the end of the season we can bask in the glory for a couple of weeks but then its time to start getting things arrange for whatever challenges await us next season and people keep pointing to the fact that we play part time teams but we are where we are and any team can only do their best against what ever team are put in front of them and we will eventually come good on away days.

Keep Calm and be a Bear!
Legend 79

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Even Chuck Green couldn't come up with an original slogan, it's stolen from the main stand at Nottingham Forrest.
He must've seen it when he was making such a success of Sheffield United.

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17 Sep 2012 23:46:40
rangers fans know amd septic fans know, they only exist because of rangers. after watching us, and u did. for 15 years back in the 1800's . u finally decided to form your own club. ever since then u have been like the younger, slightly uglier brother, trying to live up to the more successful handsome big brother.u needle us accordingly. this is understandable from an inferiority point of view. however u will never over take us. even jock stein was heard to admit. if only the mighty Rangers had come in for me first

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How the mighty have fallen then eh?

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Stein also knew that due to a rather dubious self-imposed signing policy he could get the best of both worlds, you know, Dalglish, McGrain etc etc. Oh and by the way said policy wasn't in play when your club started, it was done to be the polar opposite of what Celtic were perceived to represent. More of a reaction, or dare I say a twisted, manipulating bigoted policy to attract the dregs of society, my how it succeeded.

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Rangers wouldn't have gone out of business if it wasn't for stein's Celtic winning 9IAR , a record never beaten and becoming Scotland and the uk's 1st ever champions of the continent, sum record, no wonder it was fatal trying to beat it!

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Lol. Delusion personified #3.
You do realise Rangers are a more successful club than Celtic?
Admirable though the 1967 cup triumph was,and even more so for a Scottish side to have achieved it,it is hardly the reason that Rangers went bust.
Try looking at board room level and financial mismanagement by a so called business "Tycoon" who robbed the club financially to save his own cash hemorrhaging company. He then hired a hit man to deliver the fatal blow before callously throwing it over a wall and leaving it to die.
Nobody but DM and CW are responsible for this atrocity and i hope both are brought to book for the crimes they committed against our football club.
The self regulating authorities are not entirely blameless in this affair either. You have to ask in all seriousness if such a heinous crime was taking place for so long(over ten years) what the hell were the SPL SFA and HMRC playing at? Just a small point,but it really is absurd even thinking about how many accountants are involved with the above organisations yet nothing was flagged up for over a decade.
Are you even aware that something is just not quite right with this whole debacle?

This has nothing to do with football!

However i do not have much faith in people with green tinted binoculars who have forensically investigated,judged and condemned the club and it's supporters to even begin to understand.

This has got nothing to do with football!
P.O.B.

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Replyto 2] You chose the wrong two players to use as examples I'm afraid. The etc. yes they might not have been approached.

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Wernt mcgrain and dalgleish both protestant. in fact dalgleish was a rangers fan as a kid

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@4.
Sorry I thought Murray had nailed his colours to the mast and had made his intentions clear; he wanted to beat Celtics 9IAR, he wanted to be champions of Europe, by nailing his colours to the mast he bankrolled managers into buying players with other peoples money?
I wont leave you red faced by actually quoting Murray but your stance is wrong my friend.

Rangers died, how? They chased lions!

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@4 Every £5 Celtic spend we will spend £10 it was this ego that put you were you are now. Overspending trying to compete with Celtics history.

Ian

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@8 look at your own tim posts now, bragging about money!

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This is 2). To 5&6) that's my point, he signed the protestants knowing he could get the catholics later if he wanted because a certain rival club wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. And for the record (It's in the show Clash Of The Titans) Danny McGrain said Rangers came to see him, heard his surname and presumed...well you know the rest.

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@8.
You can quote Murray all you want mate,the ironic thing is anything he said or told the Rangers supporters over the years has turned out to be complete and utter B.S.
He never spent a penny from his own pocket,he robbed the club morally and financially,then walked off into the sunset flicking the V-sign to Scottish football.
Interesting to note his quote still irks an element of the CFC support though.
Another famous quote "I was duped by Craig Whyte" okay dokey then "Sir David". Like i said quote till your wee heart's content,none of it will embarrass me.
Actions speak louder than words.
He tried to dupe the tax man to save his failing business empire,nothing else.
P.O.B.

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Sorry #8 should have been @7.
P.O.B.

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