Rangers Banter Archive March 18 2018

18 Mar 2018 20:04:14
Does not matter who the gers are playing should always start with two up front I think Murty is tactically naive.

18 Mar 2018 20:58:09
When will people realise you don’t have to play 442 to play attacking football?

Absolutely rips my nut this chat about two up front. We had about 5 attackers on by the end of the game yesterday, it’s nothing to do with the strikers, they got no service. Rangers could not figure out how to break Kilmarnock down and that’s why we lost the game.

We need a playmaker badly. Dorrans hopefully be back soon.

18 Mar 2018 23:53:09
I agree this two up front will not happen it would leave us short in midfield we are top scorers in the league just because we have one up doesn’t mean we don’t attack we have players in other position who can score Morelos is the player to play up front on his own he holds the ball up great lays it off great bringing other players into the box for me Cummings is not that type of player and I just can’t see the player in him

19 Mar 2018 06:35:43
Tactically Clarke got it spot on. He looked at what Celtic did the last half hour last week and saw that we are unable to break down a well drilled defence.
Better get used to it, because everyone else has seen it as well.
Prior to this on some cases, the opposition has had a wee bit of a go and left space for windass Murphy candeias and John to run into.
Over to you Mr murty?

19 Mar 2018 08:16:26
Your totally correct BearMode91!The supporters that continue shouting for 442 all the time, just don't see that whether its a 352,a 4231,a 4132,433,it can and is still an attacking brand of football! Some supporters just can't see it mate! They're caught up in this 442 bubble, that its the only formation that's deemed an attacking formation! What absolute rubbish! Try understanding the game of football!

19 Mar 2018 08:49:15
I agree supercoop to an extent. Regardless of the formation, taking out the famous no attackers 4-6-0 formation levein played, you can set up an attacking formation from a number of options. For me, it's a no for wee Cummings up front himself. If you play 2 upfront then one has to be a big target man who is good in the air, good on the deck, and can hold the ball up. Louis Moult is that player

19 Mar 2018 09:44:08
The formation at ibrox isn't working that's for sure . away from home fine

19 Mar 2018 13:18:51
Watever formation we play at ibrox it doesn't work so why not give a proper 442 a crack at home nothing to loose we ain't winning at home anyway

18 Mar 2018 18:20:07
Just watching Leicester v Chelsea match. Leicester has always been a so called provincial team. Changed days! How good would it be to have the likes of Vardy, Albrighton and Mahrez at Ibrox?

18 Mar 2018 19:09:03
Spare 150 million lol, when they are on song they are brilliant to watch

18 Mar 2018 19:56:25
Earlier this season the Leicester U20 side thrashed Rangers U20s at Ibrox. Not just about money, as much to do with the development of young talent and creating pathway to the first team squad.

18 Mar 2018 22:02:55
what about doodoo not much development there eh

19 Mar 2018 08:54:05
Truebliuesotrue

Think you are missing the point. Dodoo was developed successfully by Leicester and had a pathway to their first team squad. After joining us his development seems to have come to an end.

19 Mar 2018 13:47:36
Which having a ton of money to invest in youth development probably helps to do? 🤔

18 Mar 2018 16:21:22
I'll start by saying i still think that graeme murty should be given a 12 month rolling contract, to become the rangers permanent manager, at the end of the season! There's been improvement made in my eyes and we just can't keep changing manager's all the time! We need stability and murty will get better and better and that's my honest opinion guys! However, every 'gers fan is entitled to their opinions and i know there's fans want murty as manager and obviously fans who absolutely don't want him as our permanent manager! So ED, could you please run a poll regarding/ gauging who the bears actually want as our permanent manager at the end of this season! The manager's names are-
graeme murty, derek mcinnes, frank de boer,
stevie clarke, jack ross, gio van bronckhurst,
roberto martinez, michael laudrup, graham potter/ billy reid, billy davies, or someone else!
Cheers ED would be much appreciated mate

{Ed033's Note -


Rangers Manager Poll

18 Mar 2018 16:38:25
Coop you need to give these polls a rest mate.

Seriously you need to get out more.

18 Mar 2018 16:58:49
What is it with you and polls? Ed, can I have a poll please? Are supercoopers's polls a. Getting bloody annoying? or b. Getting bloody annoying?
Also, when we're on the subject of supercooper, here's a fact. Has anyone noticed that he has backed every manager since fat ally as being the right choice to take us forward? He has waxed lyrical of all three regardless of how inept each were. No offence, but If supercoop is backing them, I'm on a different horse.

18 Mar 2018 17:34:46
If Supercooper keeps naming names he will be able to come on here and say he named guy who gets job

18 Mar 2018 17:38:20
Coop sorry but in this occation your poll stinks. If Murty lifts the Cup and wins remaining league fixtures he quite rightly will be appointed manager.

18 Mar 2018 17:57:49
He's the very same with transfers.
How many of the players he's spouted as transfer targets have actually signed? I'm calling one. His one and only right call was O'Halloran - and he's dined out on it for yonks! Honestly, drops more names than a gossip columnist.
I think he probably wants to get out more and get off his computer, but he cannot see the door anymore due to his bad eyesight! Nudge nudge wink wink! Not that I'm calling you a you know what soop.

18 Mar 2018 18:35:06
As it stands we are in real danger of only equalling last seasons points tally. If we fail short, given the Warburton fiasco then the dreadful run in under pedro, how can anyone possibly claim there is signs of improvement?

we had a nice spell with 6 or 7 wins but let's nor forget that included Fraserburgh, Ayr and Falkirk. Then the bigger must win games came along with hibs first then last weekend and 2 predictable losses then we had a chance yesterday to put a small gap between us and Aberdeen and we lose again to killie.

I'm sorry but for me murty is not and never will be the answer. Tactically naive and never learns from his mistakes. Remember this is the same guy who made holt captain.

Unfortunately what I read here nowadays is a support that has accepted that we are only good enough for 2nd place.

What the answer is I don't know but if murty is in charge next season then it's going to be a long hard season very similair to this season with the other mob walking away with yet another title

18 Mar 2018 19:08:00
Philly soul RFC, take a chill pill my friend! You're obviously quite an easy human being to wind up! Just don't participate in my polls instead of you whinging rant!

18 Mar 2018 19:21:21
How does me criticising your pointless polls equate to me being easily wound up? Me being easily wound up would be me feeling a little hurt that not everyone sees the point in me asking ed to run a poll every second post and going on the defensive.
Look, accept that your polls are honking and pointless, and I'll accept I'm a sarcastic tool.

18 Mar 2018 19:24:48
Oh, I forgot to add soop's, I don't participate in your polls, I only slag them off.

18 Mar 2018 19:54:42
Thats your perogative mate! This facility is all about opinions! For you to even comment on my polls certainly tells me you're most definitely interested in them and participate in them! Common philly soul RFC, admit it, you know you want to! Anything to do with glasgow rangers, AIN'T pointless my friend! That's what makes you and me different! Now think about that before you respond to it! Enjoy the rest of your evening!

19 Mar 2018 07:17:09
Well, that's me rumbled. Sigmund has figured me out.
Question? Where have I said anything about Rangers is pointless? It's not Rangers that are pointless, just your polls. Just like your overuse of an exclamation mark, your polls are overkill.
So, you keep believing just like wee Murty. Me? I'll keep ripping the urine out of your polls.

19 Mar 2018 08:21:50
Trust me when i say this! You will NEVER be able wind me up! I can guarantee that! It just makes me laugh that my posts get to you! Keep up the good work!

19 Mar 2018 10:02:00
They don't, and never will. However, I think I'm getting to you? You keep setting them up, and I'll keep knocking them out the ballpark. And as you can see, no need for an exclamation mark anywhere.

18 Mar 2018 13:30:00
I see Jamie Murphy on saying permanent move is inevitable. l I would be taking him in sitting him down ad saying if you play like you did yesterday or last weekend

18 Mar 2018 13:39:22
he has been awful last 2 games and I agree I’m not so sure about keeping him. It’s also easy to see why Gods hasn’t been getting a game with QPR and he is another I wouldn’t want to take

18 Mar 2018 14:54:13
I think that"s unfair tbh. I think Murphy has been one of our best players and is definitely good enough to play with us. Goss has played a couple of poor games but he is only 22 and has played only a handful of first team games. We have all seen how good he can be. Typical of our support imo - one or two dodgy games can turn you from a thoroughbred to a donkey.

18 Mar 2018 15:35:50
Seeker

Ok maybe you can tell me why Goss hasn’t been playing with a team struggling in the championship? He was awful against Celtic and even worse against Kilmarnock. Don’t ever recall calling him a thoroughbred and all I am doing is saying you can see why he isn’t getting a game with QPR. It’s funny that it’s ok on these pages to say how good someone is when they have a few good performances but your not allowed to say how bad they are after some poor performances. We had 4 players on loan playing yesterday and 3 the week before and it’s easy to see how they all can’t get a game for their parent clubs. Their is a reason for that and the last 2 games have went some way to explaining that

18 Mar 2018 16:17:05
Arthur I do get your point and you do speak a lot of sense. I've been watching the likes of Goss and Murphy over a number of games and have been really impressed by them as have a lot of people. I'm just saying that I think they are good players who add something to the team and it is impossible for them to play well all the time I was at both games and thought Murphy had an exceptional first half against them and did ok in patches against Killie. I would like to see Murphy sign a permanent deal. Goss? Looks like he will be going back anyway and good luck to him. I feel he has proved himself since coming here. As I've said he is only 22 and has only played a handful of first team matches. Consistency has to be an isdue

18 Mar 2018 16:19:33
And btw I got the same when I dared to criticise Pedro way back last year so I know where you are coming from. And I also think Steve Clarke would be a great appointment if we have to think about a more experienced manager.

18 Mar 2018 16:42:44
Fair enough Seeker but realistically if we are ever to try and challenge them then I think we need better than Goss. I have heard that Morrison and McArthur are in the final year of their contracts. Don’t know if it’s possible to get either due to wages but they are the type of players we should be looking at. Defensively we need a keeper and 1 possibly 2 centre halves. A striker and a very quick winger would also be ideal

18 Mar 2018 17:37:35
I for one don’t want Clarke, whilst getting results 10/ 11 behind the ball most of the game is torture.
I know it’s a results business but I want to see football played

18 Mar 2018 21:32:37
sure clarke said he would never manage any other scottish team when he signed for killie think he supported killie as a kid or something like that mabey wrong tho

19 Mar 2018 13:34:46
2 bad games (after coming back from an injury) doesn't mean he's shit

18 Mar 2018 10:54:50
Just to add to my Steve Clarke punt;

He was assistant to Rudd Guillit at Newcastle, Zola at West Ham and Kenny Dalgleish at Liverpool as well as Mourinho at Chelsea.

Doesn't sound too bad does it?!?

18 Mar 2018 12:57:56
He’s a celtic man so won’t be singing for us

18 Mar 2018 13:35:39
If he's offered the job doubt he would turn it down. Great opportunity. Once in a lifetime to manage Rangers and even celtic. Both huge clubs with massive fan bases worldwide and atmospheres at grounds is phenomenal.

18 Mar 2018 13:40:21
Boabt78

That doesn’t necessary follow.

18 Mar 2018 14:59:29
He is a boyhood Killie fan apparently. Don't shoot the messenger!

18 Mar 2018 15:28:38
Gullitt and Zola were great players but their spells as managers at those clubs were hardly anything to be proud of. Gullitt in particular was a disaster at Newcastle. Dropping his best player in shearer just to show he was top dog, although shearer is a arse

18 Mar 2018 16:23:49
Shearer was a great player, no doubt, but I agree he is an arse. Can remember criticising him for his part in the popcorn teeth incident, but now I can see where he was coming from! Lol

18 Mar 2018 10:40:04
Had a feeling we would still be suffering the old firm hangover. Next week we should be back to from.

I do think we have an underlying problems,
1.Windass or in fact his position which is wherever you fancy. This is great when we are going forward and we are scoring freely but the other way we need all 10 in front of the goalie to defend in some sort of structured way. If we have a free roaming player that will always give us problems.
2. Holding player. We need that Brown, Kante type. Now we are perfectly balanced left and right we need to balance front to back, sometimes when we are on the front foot we are playing a 2 1 7, . We may as well replace the goals with jumpers at that point.
Killie showed us that basics plus a goal scorer can win any game. We should have went toe to toe, we have better players.
Murty, I love but he has to learn faster or he will be down the job centre, I for one hope he can and get us back to the being the number one team in Scotland.
ATB bears.

18 Mar 2018 10:56:21
I agree with most of your points TJBB! Personally i'd sell josh windass in the summer! My reasons, although he's a talent at times, i still think our club, especially at ibrox with our home supporters expectations, is too big a club for him! He hides for far too long in games! Against celtic last week he scored through that big dumpling boyata's mistake, and for 88 minutes after that we didn't see him contribute anything! NO matter your talent, that CAN'T be allowed to happen at glasgow rangers! Against kilmarnock yesterday he was nil and void, "the worst player on the park!
I'd hope murty remains our manager beyond this season, on a 12 month rolling contract! IMHO, we should also let big alves go at the end of the season and russell martin send back to norwich! I'd honestly pair david bates and ross mccrorie, as our centre half partnership for next season! I don't wear this patter, ie. they're too inexperienced! They both have experience of playing in the scottish game, even though they're still young! I would like us to sign kilmarnock defensive midfielder, mulumbu and pair him beside ryan jack for next season! Goss will be back at QPR! I'd move young greg docherty further forward, into the central midfield role, he'll be a terrific signing for us! I'd honestly play graham dorrans, in the windass position, ie. the no.10 role, which of course is dozza's natural position anyway!

18 Mar 2018 12:14:05
When you watch Rangers now they're leaderless on the park. There is not one player who is captain material. When you think back to Greig waving his fist at his team urging more from them or Gough when you watched they teams you knew who was skipper. There is not one of the present side wants to take responsibility. I've no time for wee broon but you know who's in charge on the park for Celtic. Dare I say it but we need someone like him in our side.

18 Mar 2018 13:31:53
Totally agree with all your comments cause I have very similar opinion on these players, although I think we should sign a quality physical holding midfielder in the summer.

18 Mar 2018 14:42:11
Supercoopereleven. Interesting post, you mentioned Windass not contributing for most of the game against Celtic and i totally agree but Murty should have been aware of that and made adjustments. I keep reading that Murtys inexperience was to blame. Again i agree, changes should of been made to capitalise on Celtics 10 men. Instead Murty waited for nearly 20 mins to bring Cummings on. My question is why didn't the very experienced Jimmy Nicol offer his experience and advice, after all that's why he was brought in.

18 Mar 2018 16:27:54
Tbh i Don't think it is that important to have a strong and/ Or vociferous captain in the ranks. What you need are strong minded individuals with a desire to go out and win matches for us. To leave everything out on the pitch for us. If you can get that kind of attitude and will to win from players you will never be far away. Just my opinion

19 Mar 2018 13:33:49
Agree with some of your points coop, I think dorrans would be much more affective and consistent attacking midfielder than windass. Before trying to sign mulumbu, we should go for his current manager, Clarke. Murty maybe talks a good game, seems a nice enough bloke, probably a good coach but I've not seen anything to say he's the answer as manager. You criticize the players for not able to handle playing at ibrox, I think the same could be said for murty and his management

18 Mar 2018 10:03:54
Within less than a week Cummings has gone from star to below par on this board. I'm still one to give him his chance.

18 Mar 2018 11:01:00
Maybe we should blame the guys who are meant to supply him with chances. If he has no chances he can't score. I think everybody new apart from our manager what kilmarnock plan would be yesterday hence why we had to start 3 at the back and 2 through the middle. Cummings and morelos. But no same old formation week in week out meaning a manager with any sort of knowledge of the game can easily change there system to beat us.

18 Mar 2018 12:25:07
Just over hyped again couldn't get a game at forest but yet people on here making out he is some super star signing when he is ok as a squad player that's about it

18 Mar 2018 13:30:20
We shod be playing 2 up front against Kilmarnock. Both strikers would get chances to score.

18 Mar 2018 09:45:08
For me Steve Clarke is the manager I want to be in charge in the summer he's done a fantastic job at killie and would take rangers where we need to be. Murty has done a decent job but not a manager for me.

18 Mar 2018 10:58:22
He has done superb job but expectations are low at Kilmarnock. Could he rise to the expectations of managing us. Just have to see what happens. But if Murty gets 2 nd and we win the cup jobs his.

18 Mar 2018 11:07:48
Allanlewis, although i want graeme murty to be our manager, beyond this season on a 12 month rolling contract, i do agree wholeheartedly with you, if its not murty, then we must move to appoint stevie clarke, as the permanent rangers manager! I keep hearing names like frank de boer, who i like, rino gattuso, who i like, but these guys have NEVER managed in scotland and in british football in general, except for the couple of months, frank de boer had, as crystal palace manager! Another expensive gamble imo! Whereas stevie clarke has massive experience within the british game! He's a very good manager/ head coach, who's worked under the likes of mourinho at chelsea, for years! He's worked at liverpool and has managed at west brom, where he was superb in his first season and managed reading! At kilmarnock into the bargain, clarke has done an immense job, there's no other word for it, on a shoestring budget! I'm very impressed with stevie clarke and rate him highly! Wouldn't be a massive gamble for us imo and he wouldn't be too expensive in both his wages and budget he'd command! Stevie clarke is a better option for us than both de boer and gattuso imo!

18 Mar 2018 12:48:02
We need to go for Steve Clarke. He would not put up with the under performance. He would organise us to make us hard to beat which we are not at the moment. He knows how and when to change the game which unfortunately Murty struggles with. He also knows how to deal with top players and would be able to attract quality signings. We need to do something to get him before someone else does!

18 Mar 2018 16:22:53
Steve Clarke would be a good choice, however let's be honest, Killie will play hard ball and will the board make an arse of it again like they did for McInnes.

18 Mar 2018 07:09:21
Well lads n lassies surely that puts to bed any notion of murty getting the job full time. I know its easy to slate the manager after a defeat but surely even murtys most staunch supporters can see that a team that cannot win at home don't deserve to come second in the league let alone win it. Murty has no tactics and one system, where have we seen that before? i'm sorry to say it but King has to start drawing up a short list of candidates now and for me should include Gatuso, Mccoist, Ross, De Boar .

18 Mar 2018 08:37:31
McCoist? Decent enough post until you threw his name into the mix

18 Mar 2018 09:27:44
Wouldn't want any of your 4 mentioned

18 Mar 2018 09:30:18
Dave king should try everything in his powers to get a manager in the now so he sees what he has goat and what's his funds like to bring in new blood and get rid of dead wood the fans deserve more

18 Mar 2018 09:48:21
Ally Mccoist 72% win record as Rangers manager, he has unfinished business at Ibrox!

18 Mar 2018 09:49:51
Think heads burst after celtic defeat. Players and fans. Had we won Kilmarnock would have been beat yesterday. Hope we can regroup and finish on a high. Not sure if Murty will get job but think he's probably best suited. Boards cheapest option. Knows the players and if stays summer exits for herrara, Niko, dalcio, cardoso and a few others. Then get some fresh players in, have a good preseason and go for it next season. Home form not acceptable. We should be winning at home. Onwards

18 Mar 2018 16:49:21
jyf

Who exactly was his team playing against? Part time players from the 2 bottom leagues in Scotland. His budget was more than 100 times more than any of these teams so no wonder his ratio looked good.

19 Mar 2018 13:30:39
McCoist and Ross are you drunk? 😂

19 Mar 2018 13:33:51
Your having a laugh with McCoist in there aren’t you?

18 Mar 2018 05:48:49
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 18th March 2018