Rangers Banter Archive June 18 2015

 

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18 Jun 2015 21:51:58
What's your thoughts on Joey Barton? Free transfer. Lots of experience & will to win.

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18 Jun 2015 23:10:11
don't know if he would play in the 2nd tier of Scottish fitbaw but say yes. deecee

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19 Jun 2015 03:27:56
plays wi the heart if the moneys right.

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19 Jun 2015 09:15:46
Joey Barton is pure scum, would not like him anywhere near scotland never mind ibrox!

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19 Jun 2015 10:16:38
we have just got rid of ian black behave

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18 Jun 2015 19:47:46
Anyone agree that Kenny Miller gave us some great shifts last year one of few driving forces in that team but his goal record at Championship level was shocking we need a quick young goal machine not a guy running for 90 mins but can't stick in 20-30 goals in this league. Squad player yes as I imagine he is a great pro and good to have around the club Starter defo NO

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18 Jun 2015 20:37:25
Davie, sometimes grafting and scoring goals don't mix when you are playing up front. The gift about being a prolific goal scorer is being in the right place at the right. Miller is the player he is because of the one up front attitude. Going by our new manager's cv, he likes to play with width and get behind teams. If that is the case we need speedy wide players, support from the mid-field and a predator in the box.

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18 Jun 2015 21:10:08
Your right Billy maybe now Clark will step up with new manager and be that predator not holding my breath. Someone like Billy MacKay that was at Caley would have been ideal .

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18 Jun 2015 21:44:30
I've posted in the past with the right service I believe young Clark could make it, I also believe he did ok at times and the next Management team might just help him out!

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18 Jun 2015 22:01:50
The way forward is too have quick players all over the park. Miller isn't the way ahead and will probably used sparingly, Clark just isn't good enough

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19 Jun 2015 07:28:39
Guys I honestly think young Hardie is our best option when he got his chance he pressed hard and worked hard and put the ball in the net deserves more of a chance.

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19 Jun 2015 09:43:36
I think we should look no further than Stevie May.

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19 Jun 2015 10:37:19
Think we will see Gallagher and dykes next season.

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19 Jun 2015 14:25:29
Hardie looks really slow and weak would get found out against a half decent team

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19 Jun 2015 17:46:14
I feel for Championship winning and more importantly SPFL top 6 contesting, Clark is not the quality or the finisher we will need.

That said in the 2 Dubyas I think we need to go with their opinions as the QoS manager clearly got the best out of Clark maybe a good coach can make him a better striker.

I do feel annoyed yet again that we let Andy Little go he was a very good player and guaranteed goal getter, who decided to let him go I wonder

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19 Jun 2015 20:53:02
Agree KT, Clark is very frustrating, he was banging the goals in for fun with QOS, could he be an out and out striker? Will be interesting times ahead with the new ideas being put into place.

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18 Jun 2015 19:04:10
I heard that Mark Warbaton is away abroad today to an under 21 tournament so here hoping he find a gem or two and signs them?

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18 Jun 2015 21:09:41
Hey should sign the whole malia U21 team, boys are on fire.

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19 Jun 2015 06:57:23
On fire? That'll be the crabs!

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19 Jun 2015 08:25:53
They will be if they don't win.

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18 Jun 2015 17:59:14
Does anyone else think a goalkeeper and a hard nosed midfielder and a solid striker should be on warburtons list?

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18 Jun 2015 18:16:49
Would also like to see a. Playmaker added to that last

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18 Jun 2015 18:24:08
So just the spine of the team then?

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18 Jun 2015 18:58:59
Just me who thinks we need a full new team?

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18 Jun 2015 19:02:39
Definitely a goalie,bell is good and no more than that,we've been spoilt over the last 30 year's with some of the best keepers in British football at the time,a good keeper who commands his area and exudes confidence takes the pressure off his defence,don't know who's available for the budget we have but Bell at best is a good back up.

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18 Jun 2015 19:56:48
agree on all the posts above. bell lost 90% credibility with his attempt at catching fles. alex ferguson always had the knack of finding a spine . deecee

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18 Jun 2015 19:44:18
gkk your right the spine of a team but a lot depends on the style of play he is intending to impress on the guys he signs , but I think gk, battling mf and a poacher are a must as the teams in the championship last season walked over us by passing through us running by us and scoring soft goals

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18 Jun 2015 20:59:00
Agreed Bornblue,good post mate.

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18 Jun 2015 17:36:39
just reading that mohsni got 7 games. what about the poser that shoved him. without the shove there's no kicks n punches. deecee

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18 Jun 2015 19:01:01
He deserved it but agree with you,also what about Motherwells 2 wee ned subs that we're getting stuck in whilst Mohsoni was being held nothing to me their the biggest cowards but good to see the back of him he was a crap player as well!

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18 Jun 2015 17:32:36
with our standing and scottish football as a whole does anyone have any gripes that we are now a stepping stone to the EPL?

bringing players in young and on the cheap and selling on for a massive profit to the likes of Sunderlands and West Broms with their riches from TV money.

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18 Jun 2015 19:30:23
Spot on andy

I have no issue with that look how good we defended with Cuellar and we can still be a breeding ground for the Super League 5 countries but benefit from the year or two we have this type of player

Hoping this is te future with the 2 Dubyas

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18 Jun 2015 19:34:29
Other than the spell that English clubs were excluded from European competition, I think we always have been a stepping stone to the top league south of the border. There were some notable exceptions only because crazy money was on offer. It is the only sensible way forward. Not many Boumsongs about these days, especially when there is no scouting system.

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18 Jun 2015 16:41:48
We need some new midfielders and a new striker.

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18 Jun 2015 17:33:49
I heard that de yea, alves, Ramos, silva, Marcelo, messi, toure,swinestiger,ronaldo ,Neymar and Falcons were seen in the Copland road hotel lat night,all apparently interested in taking a step up into the most competitive league in Europe, if the money is right , don't believe me ask big Dave.

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19 Jun 2015 11:29:15
Still won't get peomoted

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18 Jun 2015 16:14:08
Hopefully team for next season due to linked players is something like:
Bell
Wallace Kiernan Wilson McGregor
Murdoch Macleod
Dallas Allan Mckay
Miller

( I know we've been linked with Stevie May and I'm not a fan of the current Kenny but I can't see us getting May)

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18 Jun 2015 17:27:54
You haven't even seen any of these guys play and you have them in your team, I would doubt that any of these guys would make you a better outfit than last years players, but time will tell

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18 Jun 2015 18:20:58
Why are you putting McGregor at full back? He isn't a full back and we need to get away from playing centre halves there. Would it not be better to buy a right back?

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18 Jun 2015 18:20:59
Dundeebearrfc. without knowing how new guys will play,time will tell.but your fatal flaw in line up is. bell.he couldn't catch a cold.new keeper must be signed.he would no good for gers,would be very glad to see him go.

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18 Jun 2015 19:00:29
Unless its a young rb like naismith or odonnell I would just promote sinnamon, although Jack grimmer is a future Scotland star and he's a rb although we have no chance

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18 Jun 2015 15:27:55
so with what we have left and the names we have been linked with so far what would your team be for the new season?

3-5-2
Bell
Mcgregor Wilson Kiernan
RWB Wallace
Allan Murdoch Dallas
Clark Miller

Not sure who would be best at RWB. Like Sinammon as RB but not seen enough to go as RWB and sure there are free agents that we could pick up for there. Also Miller for now but could easily be replaced with Hardie or Gallagher if they impress in pre season or even a proven goalscorer brought in

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18 Jun 2015 17:52:48
Need a new keeper bells not good enough

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18 Jun 2015 15:14:43
good luck to rob Kiernan in his new career . looks like a good signing despite the usual sour grape clubs stating injury problems which give supporters like me the jitters based on media junk. looking like Wilson and Kiernan in central defence. that's where a good manager always starts .a new goalie would also be a treat. also feel that the championship has an edge with hibs, st Mirren, qos and us fighting for the grand prize.deecee

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18 Jun 2015 17:30:09
Yeah good luck to him when the deal is across the line and he is unveiled. Hopefully a rock at the centre of defence for the next few years.

i can see falkirk pushing this year aswell which will make things a lot harder.

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18 Jun 2015 13:45:08
is looking more than likely we will have a new central defence pairing next season of Wilson and kiernan this would mean leaving MacGregor out of central defence what do fellow bears think bout not having him play in central defence is he good enough or not

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18 Jun 2015 14:31:45
I would play 3-5-2 and have McGregor alongside wilson and kiernan, buy a decent right wing back and play wallace left.

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18 Jun 2015 14:36:40
A good player but he could also play at right back if required plus hopefully we will have lots of games next season with cup runs so would be a very good player to be rotated in the team

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18 Jun 2015 15:08:08
MacGregor was a good option at right back and could easily make this position his own

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18 Jun 2015 15:11:46
He is good enough but he is not great he gets wrong side lapses in concentration. But we will get injuries.

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18 Jun 2015 15:14:06
Have to agree with SimonH82. having the 3 at the back gives us more cover and with the wing backs bombing forward it becomes quite an attacking formation. Also think McGregor deserves a chance as CB as he looked impressive in there when he was actually played in position.
Just need to wait and see what Warburton has in store regarding formations

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18 Jun 2015 16:26:17
Wing backs bombing forward!
I love it.Be good to see ANYBODY bombin forward.lol

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18 Jun 2015 17:33:05
with Warburton in charge we are more likely to go with a 4 at the back 2 centre mid 1 behind striker right winger and left winger and 1 up front 4 2 3 1 when defending 4 5 1 can be a good formation but you need the right people to play this at the moment we lack the players to play this hopefully that will get this sorted soon
rather than play MacGregor at right back think we should be defiantly looking for new right back this has been a problem area for a while then use MacGregor as a squad player we did concede a few goals with him playing at centre back last year but no fair to judge him due to players he had beside him last year didn't do him any favours or our not so good goalkeeper keep him as squad player I would say

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18 Jun 2015 18:24:46
McGregor is only average and was found out against better teams. At best he should be a squad player but no more he isn't good enough and prone to stupid mistakes

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18 Jun 2015 12:48:40
Was just wondering what anyone else thought about maybe trying to get young James wilson from Manchester United on a season long loan? I think he's a cracking young player and would score goals for fun in the scottish championship! Good partner for Stevie may if the rumours are to be believed!

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18 Jun 2015 13:29:53
Stevie May! More chance of getting Brian may! 😝😝😝 and why would Manchester United send one of there promising young strikers who's been in about the 1st team to scotlands 2nd tier!!

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18 Jun 2015 14:31:57
I'd love to argue Dh88 but damn it your right.

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18 Jun 2015 14:39:01
A good player but wouldn't happen, if we are getting loan players from the premiership it would more likely be from Leicester, arsenal, Spurs or Everton who Warburton has good contacts with

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18 Jun 2015 22:34:53
Why wouldn't Stevie May be available for Rangers? Am I missing something here?

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18 Jun 2015 11:31:38
Mark Warburton on Twitter saying he's off to Prague for the Under 21 European Championships. Hopefully he's able to find a coupl of hidden gems and lure them to Ibrox!

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18 Jun 2015 12:34:15
How long for?Small matter of getting our s**t together here!I'm all for scouting out youth,but surely he's needed here more?

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18 Jun 2015 13:40:32
Ever heard of a phone? He can't still make decisions even if he's not sitting at his desk.

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18 Jun 2015 14:33:09
Could not have put it better myself Cee

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18 Jun 2015 14:51:30
I've heard of a phone son,have you heard the difference between can and can't?

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17 Jun 2015 23:06:58
I read a lot of guys on here giving Walter Smith pelters about the money he spent and the style of his teams! You talk about how the fitba under advocaat was better and a lot more exciting but don't go into to much depth about the fact he spent £80 million in 2 seasons to achieve this! Maybe the fitba under Smith wasn't always great but I for one wasn't complaining when we were winning trophies and getting to a Uefa cup final! Were you?

With regards to McCoist everyone is entitled to their own opinion but he will always be a legend in my eyes! Everyone seems to forget that when we first went down he was the only man ready to stand up and be counted when it really mattered when all the other so called "Rangers Men" disappeared in to the sunset! With the team he inherited from smith we were 15 points clear at Christmas before the stuff hit the fan! I agree that some of his signings were poor especially last summer but to start off in division 3 with no players and a signing ban he tried his best so cut the guy some slack!

Now after my rant I would like to put forward something to my fellow bears! Remember a few years ago we managed to convince one of Europe's most talked about and wanted young managers in the shape of Paul le guen! We were all so excited and a new era was upon us! Looked what happened there! All I'm saying is we shouldn't get to excited and Warburton and Weir, the pair who are single handedly going to transform the club from utter dross on the park to the Brazilian national team on a shoe string budget but also manage to bring through these wonder kids at Murray park that all the previous managers love to ignore! All I'm saying is don't get to carried away just yet! For all the life of me I hope they do what I've mentioned above but I just don't see how!

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18 Jun 2015 08:56:29
McCoist didn't inherit a squad with no players ok there were maybe only 8 or 9 but to say there were no players is just rubbish. The signing ban didn't start until after the transfer window closed and he signed players like Black, Sandaza, Templeton, Shiels, Cribari and a good few more so that point is rubbish too. As for cutting him slack you obviously are unaware of the turgid one paced rubbish his teams played for the last 3 years. Obviously you weren't aware that he had the luxury of having a squad with a wage bill of £6m and still couldn't win the Ramsdens cup and was embarrassed in every other cup. He didn't improve any players he bought and they all went backwards. He lied to the fans regarding his wages and he decided against signing Craig Gordon and Scot Allan but instead went for Simonsen and Hutton. Fair enough if you think of him as a legend however a lot of us Rangers fans live in the real world and know the damage his man has done to the club

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18 Jun 2015 09:25:07
If Ally was a ' Rangers man' why is he still taking a wage from a club he supposedly loves, not as if he needs it, I thought like many other Bears that when King took control he would do the right thing and resign from his contract and not take any more money.

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18 Jun 2015 09:37:41
at least when Le Guen left he didn't take a penny, McCoist is taking money from a club he claims to love. That money could help us get a player or 2 in, he was clueless as a manager and when his contract is up nobody will touch him with a barge pole. In fact why haven't some of clubs in England came in for him if he is that good?? i:e Shiefield Weds etc

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18 Jun 2015 11:01:40
Nice history re-write Bears 1872, McCoist had 13 players at his first training session, with another 6 still to commit or return, all of whom played at some point in the season. The signing ban was suspended initially or don't you recall them buying Templeton and signing Cribari's and the like?

As for McCoist being "the only man ready to stand up", trust me TUPE-ing over was the biggest no-brainer of Ally's career, £825,000 a year to coast Rangers through the lower divisions, Charles promise of penny shares and a 25 year contract for a nice wee endorsement. The queue of managers prepared to take on that financial package with those resources compared to competitors would have been from the Copland Road to Carnaby St.

Breathtaking delusion in every regard there Bears 1872

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18 Jun 2015 12:37:23
Ally is no longer a legend more of a BELL-END now.

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18 Jun 2015 13:41:50
Templeton was bought when whyte took over was he not?

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18 Jun 2015 13:49:13
bears1872 or jyf or . Ally? Seriously you could at least use "Gardener on Leave" or "Football Destroying Money Grabber" so we know it is you.

I really admire you trying to defend yourself as it must be hard the facade of the cheeky chappie loveable legend cracking away to expose what many people suspected you to be . a self important , two faced mercenary only concerned with one thing The Ally McCoist Show no matter how it damages others and Rangers.

Your choice of old pals , funding their retirement and overpaying total muppets like Kyle and Black in particular. The signing policy of what can only be described as put a blindfold on and pin the tail on the donkey and they were nearly all donkeys. Your crass patronising of people and us fans with gems like "I never read my contract". Worst of all staying in place so long knowing inside you were totally unable to carry out ANY managerial tasks at the expense of football, fans and Rangers finances all down to one thing you ONLY care about Alistair McCoist period.

Above average striker that missed 2 chances for every one scored yes, piss taker yes, legend not anymore if you ever were.

Walter spent multi millions too and classically bought the Worlds best central defender from the Champions of Europe and played him at right back. His football was turgid and boring relieved only by the occasional Gazza and Laudrup signings, players that need zero coaching. Yes winning 9 in a row was fantastic at the time but I clearly remember being bored for long parts of most of the seasons and turning up out of loyalty alone, had I been able to afford going to Barca back then I would have been only going to selected home games and away games as the football was not entertaining.

I am more excited about going to Rangers now under potential of a new exciting style, win draw or lose, than I was back then about turning up to see us grind out another 1-0 or 2-0 boring win.

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18 Jun 2015 18:27:34
Cee

No he was bought when Green took charge

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