Rangers Banter Archive July 18 2013

18 Jul 2013 22:06:49
Can anyone tell us how good a goalie Steve simonsen is and how much they've seen of this guy actually playing

Only seen him play in the dundee derby last year was very good if it wasn't for him dundee would have lost that about 4, 5, 6 nill but he kept them out till 85+ mins and made over i'd say 15 saves in that match

18 Jul 2013 20:41:28
now that easdale has joined the board and will be confirmed tomorrow by walter why did walter say 6 weeks ago he would resign I easdale joined he board

Three things I would say
1. Money talks.
2. Did WS say that.
3. Is Mr. Easdale so bad?
In general terms, we have a situation that the team on the park is the Glasgow Rangers[ the team that we have supported for years. ]
The commercial operation that runs the mechanics is the business that operates the finances and if individuals want to invest in that that is their decision but we must keep them apart, and most of all let us please keep comments on the commerce to people that supposedly know what they are about. The general nucleus of us let's stick to what is on the park.
billyb

Until the picture becomes clearer questions will be asked of Walter.

Must have missed this one can you direct us to where Walter said that?. Or is this just more made up nonsense.

WS did say on record that he'd resign if MM was forced out.
Any comment?

@4 show us where he said it then!

Jg

Liked your post and sentiments billyh. @4 Walter smith did not say that. A newspaper wrongly reported he did, how unlike a newspaper to report the wrong information. eh?

Ozzie Al

18 Jul 2013 16:34:38
I hope we sign big lad Mohsni, watched all pre season games, he has been top notch, big strong, and pretty quick, and I think there are goals in the big fella. Rangers ticking over at the moment, can't wait for the season to start. Season 2, another step on the road back.

Hope matter can get the moshni deal signed sealed and delivered before Monday, he looks a solid big player with a nice touch. Anyways looking forward to the season starting masel, been waiting for ma s. t to come through the door for nearly two weeks now, hopefully no too much longer now

18 Jul 2013 15:53:54
I can't believe the excitment about the players we are getting in, there all a bunch of drivel no1 has herd off, we are still in the 2nd division & should be getting by on players to win the division which could be a lot cheaper save the pennies for a rainier day.
broxi22

Sorry mate but just now is the raniest period in gers history. And if u havñt heard of law, daly or bell then that says more about your ignorance of the scottish game more than anything else. and do u always have a go at players u know nothing about?

And you would be ok with
getting put out of the cups
at an early stage. We are signing
players with a view to getting to
cup finals not just to win div 2
just a thought
billy h

Do u not read papers and posts on the rangers website we are building a team to be able to win cups and make the team better not just to win the sfl2 title and don't make me laugh noones heard of daly law clarke plz
get real

Broxi get yourself down to Argyle Strret and buy some of that pan pipe Inca music. Mellow out man.

@2/ So if no cup finals are reached you think Ally should go?

How will the club generate the money to pay the wages and run when get to spl.
The fee's n wage at moment is very high for what it needs to be.
When the club gets back to spl the current squad are not spl good enough with no sell on value and dispeportionate wages needing a spl squad where will all this come from,
Thats why I think we are buying and paying wages for nothing, shaft the cups what other div 2 club thinks of winning cups, get players thatl get u threw each division like clarke. simple save the money 2 years then go all out.
Broxi22

@op why get by on players that wer ther which wer not that good now we've brought in players who can get us back to the top league and runs in the cups also I don't think we'll need to bring in anymore players until we're back there

Football teams are built over a number of seasons not bought to win one season. Alastair has bought extremely well in the market he had to operate in and has got an excellent basis for a team that in two years time, and with a few more quality editions will easily take the title back from Celtic. Mather has assured fans we are living within our means with less wage costs than last season. Why not try to win a couple of cups as well after all we are the Rangers and not Celtic or any other normal club.

Seriously you can't please some people. I bet you complained all last year about the standard of Football & the players we had. Now we try to improve and bring in better players you still moan.
Coisty09

Lol the OP moans that the players he hasn't heard off therefore not big enough of a name for his likeing. then argues another poster later on that were spending too high wages for the club we were. emmmm would a higher rep of a player not cost more then?! u didnae have your wheatabix did ye?

18 Jul 2013 10:14:39
This is gospel, my brother in law works down in the Midlands and told me last night that Aston villa will sign the centre half rangers have on trial, bilel mohsni, it's in the Birmingham newspapers and one of the Aston villa's physios brother also told him this story, in fact he told that Aston villa were fighting off crystal palace & West Ham United to sign mohsni, he's highly regarded in English football, trust us to miss out on a very good centre half

Where are you getting this nonsense. There is not a single post anywhere to support this theory. If Belil was going to Villa would he really risk injury by playing and giving 110% for the Glasgow Rangers? Would he remain and train in Germany today and would he be having final discussions on his contract that WILL be signed before our next game.

I think you are deluded and I can confirm that Mohsni is signing for Rangers. A 3 year deal has be agreed. Bilel Mohsni is loving life at Rangers and feels the love from the Rangers Supporters and can't believe how lucky he is. Boris Pandza is looking unlikely at the minute, wages are the stumbling block.

@1&2/ don't be too sure guys. He might be with Rangers but wheres his agent? Money talks.

Lads I think the OP is just trying to convince the visitors on here that other clubs (anyone) want to sign Mohsni. Hasn't been a single other concrete link to anyone else in the press or any media outlet for that matter. He will without doubt be a Rangers player and personally I think he will be a good signing.

@2 and if we have to believe the op is talkin rubbish how are U so in the know?am not sayin yer not just wondering how yer so certain!ryan

18 Jul 2013 08:44:57
The doom and gloom around the club is not surprising, considering the vultures we always seem to have hovering over us. It may well be the club is in for another rough ride soon, who knows.

All I know is that Rangers can never die - and by that I mean the spirit of the blue jerseys running on a pitch and playing their hearts out for the history and privilege of wearing the Rangers name.

The spirit of the club is not something that money-men can buy or sell, it doesn't belong to them. They can buy the park, the rights to the merchanidse, players etc but that's just stuff - Rangers as a spirit lives outside of ttose physical things.

If all of those things were lost, Rangers would still exist in the minds and hearts of everyone connected to it. If we had to, we'd pick the 11 best players from the fans to play a team. It's that simple.

Well said mate totally agree excellent post. I know most people would disagree but last season when we started again before we brought in Faure, Argyriou etc I thought we should have held trials, I'm sure we would have found atleast one decent player that's just never got the chance. As it always seems to be the big strong lads that make pro youth in this country over the more fast skilful boys with natural talent I know a few that could play 2nd & 1st division easy & would play for nothing. Not that that's the way forward for a team like Rangers. The national team would be so much better if we didn't have a smoking and drinking from 14 teenage lifestyle.

Larky Bear

Like Third Lanark?

LLSTMF

You know what Expat, I literally felt a sense of peace from all the 5h1te that surrounds us after reading your post.
You've hit it right on with the sentiment in your post and I feel I have to apologise for getting all to focused on the negative at times.

Thanks for your poignant words

Well said mate, it's no fault of the fans and very good post

Tompo88

That really is one of the best posts that's been on here for a while Expat well done mate. I have always said Rangers & it's fans will never go away it's in our blood that's what gets to the Tic fans they know that. But seriously I think someone should check Bay Bears temperature to see if he's feeling alright? Only joking mate.

Larky Bear

Believe it or not I actually want Rangers back in the top division as much as you, it's boring without you, if we lose I dot rush to see what the Rangers score was and that says it all.
That being said the blind loyalty Rangers will never die guff, is exactly what the vultures are feeding on. Now if you love your club as much as your proclamation, get organised either unite the factions or campaign for them to be disbanded and the support can then unite and be a real force. The vultures rely on this broken Rangers support who cannot unite, backstab each other constantly and then proclaim it's all the fault of Lawell. Get off your backside and stop your club from dying again!
Gbhoy

I wouldn't normally reply to a snipey comment, but The HiHis had a few really terrible seasons before the end, and the fans had no appetite to resurrect the club when boardroom battles took it down. This is not the case with Rangers, the fans will never let it die.

It's true Larky, I'm not feeling my militant self just now. Must be all this sunshine.
@6- I wouldn't class this post in the 'blind loyalty' category mate. This was just words from the heart. We can still have this but take action to. I will continue to take whatever small steps I can to be part of something bigger that rids us of the vultures. But I will also enjoy the fact that as long as we Rangers supporters are here the spirit of Rangers will live on in some form.

I believe you big man I'm trying not to let this share value drop bother me & just get on with it if it plummets further then it's time to worry. The Blind Loyalty thing is what me & Bay Bear keep going on about were certainly not burying our head in the sands but the OPs post was not that. Bay Bear can I ask you do you think joining the RST has been worth it & would you recommend it? I've never really liked them to be honest some of there statements certainly do not speak for the majority or Rangers fans.

Larky Bear

Some people on the Bears Den are saying that now is the perfect time for the little man to buy more shares in our club.

The thinking is that if you're in it for the long term and not looking for a quick buck, in 5 years time Rangers will be at the top again and the share price will be much higher than the 40 odd pence it's going for now.

I'm not so sure, I mean, what does it matter if they're worth 4p or £4 - I'm not in it to make a buck. The only sort of investment that helps the club in any way at the minute is buying tickets, buying shirts, buying pies.

In all honesty Larky it's a bit early for me to say. But for the sake of a tenner I would say of course it is. I've never had much time for their statements or agreed with them either but as I've said before they are only as effective as the people who are members. I joined as I viewed it as an already established vehicle so half the job was done. They are currently working on upgrading the website to introduce an effective fan voting system but you have to be a member to vote. The RST board have also held recent talks with other club fan groups who own or are further down the line with fan ownership of their club. They do seem to be doing things to try and move forward with making this a reality for us Rangers supporters; but they need more fans on board so that there is a true representation of what the fans really think. I don't really know mate, only time will tell. All I know is that I'm not one for moaning but then sitting back and doing nothing. If the RST can give us a voice that's heard then that's a tenner well spent in my book. They also seem to be well received within Ibrox so that is also an advantage. Even if I've not always agreed with there statements I can't fault them for at least trying to make a difference. The way I look at it, they're out there, giving their own time and actually doing things while most folk are just moaning on forums. The individual at the RST who I have had the most contact with tends to echo my thoughts but we don't always agree, a bit like some of us on here at times. We're all Rangers supporters at the end of the day and we all want stability and success for or our club. The more of us that band together as one unit the better in my opinion.

Sorry, didn't mean to sound snipey or decry the intended sentiment, I am really not interested in winding Rangers men up but I do wish someone preferably a Rangers supporting successful businessman would come forward and unite the fans.
The sooner this happens the better it will be for us all a strong Rangers means Celtic have to be even stronger.
Gbhoy

As I've said before on here - it happened with AFC Wimbledon when the fans rebelled over the takeover / buyout of Wimbledon FC by Pete Winkleman who owns Marshall Amps and created the franchise of MK D**s - fans immediately held a meeting at Wimbledon Town Hall and donations were made that night that created AFCW and literally using fans and local players applied to and joined the Minor Counties Leauge and through fans devotion and spirit, 9 years later AFCW were back in the Football Leauge - the club didn't die, the true supporters still followed their team, and just a few years ago the English FA accepted that AFC Wimbledon were a continuation of Wimbledon FC so the clubs history continued and the FA Cup was returned to AFCW from the franchise as MK D**s had no right to Wimbledons history - fan power does win - true supporters make sure of that. AFC Wimbledon are a continuation of Wimbledon FC - same history, same fans, same club- Glasgow Rangers are and always will be Glasgow Rangers, same history, same fans, same club. Darkside get used to it - fact! Same 11 blue jerseys on the park at Ibrox playing for Glasgow Rangers. And isn't Willie Johnstons biography a great read - Wee Bud - my favourite Gers player!
afcw

@12 must congratulate you on your leadership qualities. Good post

Ozzie Al

18 Jul 2013 01:49:07
Thinking of the first league game this year and would like to see the team being:
Gallacher

Foster Mohsni Gasparatto Wallace

McKay Hutton McLoud Temps

Little McCulloch



Subs: Smith/Kelly Hegarty Crawford Aird Shiels.

Any other suggestions?

Swap jig with hutton then swap hutton with shiels

Daily and black not even in the squad and a non - signed player in the starting 11! Epic fail mate, stick to football manager! (Never mind Hutton in the starting 11, he's a shocking player, worst in a longtime and I hope he gets nowhere near the bench never mind the starting 11)

Why is none of our new players not involved in that lineup as we can play 3 as trialists, but only 3 games each they are allowed

New sighnings can't play until september 1st. thought everyone new this

Aye 11 other players

Daly & Clark will start up front every week

Eh, Daly and Law maybe.

Bell

Forster Moshni Perry Wallace

Shiels MacLeod Law Temps

Clarke Little

Mohsni still hasn't signed and I am sure some of the new players will be playing as trialists. Will be interesting to see how the trialists are played during August

@3 I thought it was 2 trialists in 2 games each?

Larky Bear

The new players can play twice as trialists ya plum

I was the original poster and I am sure you will find unless it has changed that they can only play two trialists in each game and each trialist can play three games. So people saying we have not signed mohsni need to shut up as he could still play as a trialist without signing and people complaining about none of the new players our two trialists in the game would be Foster and Moshni so we couldn't have anymore. And also I agree with the Hutton comments from his performances last year but by what I have heard and seen he has had a good pre-season but as soon as we could play all our players he would not be in my team as I think Law and McLoud will be good together. So anymore pointless complaints?

@8 looks good but i'd swap Perry for Jig

Have you all forgotten Peralta. Very quiet at the moment. This boy is a real player

18 Jul 2013 00:55:07
Nevermind all the transfers and beating 3rd rate German teams what about a shocking day in the share value? Unless some good news about fully audited accounts comes quickly I fear the only statistic that will matter will be the price of a suspended share value. something is way wrong at Ibrox and we are doing nothing about it!@!

Unlike you poster I am a FOOTBALL supporter when I come on this site and come on here to get away from business issues So I would prefer to concentrate and comment on what is happening with performance on the pitch rather than what is happening on a balance sheet. Good to see rangers showing German fans all Scottish teams are not easybeat's, and we could have scored more in what was a very assured performance from rangers. May I suggest the financial times rumours page as you seem more interested in business dealings than those of the world game.

Ozzie Al

Calm down shares are still 59 p that's still good, about 300 people a day buying a share

Too much for the average punter m8. more worrying is the fact that the company has lost over 52% of its value since since Jan and there posters on here suggesting 1st team line ups that include players that haven't signed yet!

Gers are heading straight for a financial iceberg and Captain Smith (how ironic is that!)is silently deafening. c'mon Walter open your mouth ffs!

Certainly a sad days for those who bought shares as an investment but many did warn that the initial price was set way too high. Now at 42p they're probably somewhere around their true value at the moment.

As for who is selling, I'd guess Kieron Pryor after his pal Malcolm Murray left Ibrox but as MM warned a lot of institutional investors won't be happy at the current situation. Still I'm guessing the Easdalle brothers would be willing to invest around this price so I would think the price might dip a little then stabilise - only my non expert analysis guys.

@Ozzie Al/ Where was the game on mate could'nt find it?

I shall try again. Shares are at 42p today. 42p! Oh dear.

LLSTMF

18 Jul 2013 11:15:36
@2. check your shares page.
shares sitting at 42p and have not been 59p
for a long long time now when IPO was 1 month old
65M shares were valued at 90p giving Rangers a value of £58. 5M 7 months down the line and Rangers are now valued at £27. 67M.
you keep your head in the sand if you want but if you are going to post financial figures then please tell the truth its not hard to check investment figures on the net. so for the people who are con cerned regarding the value of Rangers and the share price plummeting. at least provide them with accurate numbers and not something out of your deluded mind. JohnnyG. the fans on here deserve the truth.

18 Jul 2013 11:52:30
@2. if 300 people a day are buying shares does that not mean 300 people a day are selling shares?????
nothing like trying to put a positive spin on the unknown. and 59p. if I was you I would get rid of that coal fired laptop and get a more modern PC as your figures are some 2 months out of date. shares sitting at 42p as of 11:45 18/07/2013. which is 58% below the issue price that the normal punter paid for them however it is
42 X the price the high fliers paid (1p). not bad investment for some but punters as usual buying from the heart. shafted

17 Jul 2013 23:53:03
anyone know a link for tonights highlights