Rangers Banter Archive February 18 2011

 

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18 Feb 2011 23:08:02
Ed i leave my name on my post where it says (name above email) so if that's the wrong place to put it please inform me thanks blue bear. {ed's note - that is just if people want to leave a name for us to know when we contact them, if they want to be contacted. It doesn't show up to us editing, but it does get stored if we want to go and check back who posted it on the actual site. We try and keep as little info as possible on the editing pages to make it easier to edit. If you want to be recognised to us editors post something in the email field so that we can know who you are and ignore posts signed as you without that email address.}

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18 Feb 2011 23:09:27
. .and it could be argued that your crowds are larger because you have a larger stadium.

But we won't know for sure until we go back to the heydays when that was the case. .

Daviet

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18 Feb 2011 23:07:43
@paddybhoy

I agree. Partly. lol

But the criticism I was trying to address was that there were empty spaces at Ibrox. The point I was trying to make was that there were more empty spaces at your place. That's all.

Daviet

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18 Feb 2011 22:31:57
Davie t, the thing is, it doesn't matter about percentages, the facts are celtic's crowds are bigger, you could say a team with a 5000, capacity, and filling it every week had 100%, but it doesn't make them better supported than celtic.

paddybhoy

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18 Feb 2011 22:07:51
And, as an aside. . .

Avg attendances Scot Prem.

2010/ 11
Celtic 47370 (77.8% full)
Rangers 44706 (87.5%)

2009/ 10
Rangers 47564 (93.1%)
Celtic 45582 (74.9%)

2008/ 09
Celtic 57671 (94.8%)
Rangers 49534 (96.9%)

2007/ 08
Celtic 56182 (92.4%)
Rangers 48091 (94.1%)

Do you want me to go on? Nameless green Tic?

Daviet

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18 Feb 2011 21:47:55
"why is ibrox never full these days"

I don't know. I'm not at Ibrox these days either. I have much more important things to spend my money on at the moment.

I would guess the reason Ibrox doesn't seem to be full is the same reason that no other gound seems to be full. Would you care to hazard a guess?

Daviet

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18 Feb 2011 21:27:11
Re;daviet
why is ibrox never full these days, dont they like what they see?too much skill on show?

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18 Feb 2011 21:13:38
"Our very success, gained you will agree by skill, will draw more people than ever to see it. And that will benefit many more clubs than Rangers. Let the others come after us. We welcome the chase. It is healthy for us. We will never hide from it. Never fear, inevitably we shall have our years of failure, and when they arrive, we must reveal tolerance and sanity. No matter the days of anxiety that come our way, we shall emerge stronger because of the trials to be overcome. That has been the philosophy of the Rangers since the days of the gallant pioneers"- Bill Struth

Daviet

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18 Feb 2011 21:11:20
Why does david healy not get his shot that is what he is bought 4 is it not?? any1 could see lafferty was having a bad game so give the guy a chance. walter dosent always get it right but he must have seen that it wasnt happening for lafferty.
( pls post my name ed and what do u think? ?)

{Editors note: I am thinking, if you leave your name it will be posted}

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18 Feb 2011 21:04:42
Walter smith is the greatest manager that rangers have ever had FACT! (seen as every1 says that lol) his achevments prove that. his tactics are sometimes wrong but no1s perfect, can't get it right all the time although he useualy gets results. witch is the most important thing. i personaly don't agree with his defenceive approch but what can u do with the players he has got when u are still on 4 fronts, he is trying to rotate a very small squad witch is near impossible. so please give the guy a break and get behind him for his last 6 months bears! REMEMBER HE AINT COMING BACK!

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18 Feb 2011 20:58:03
At the end of the day lads I think Walter Smith has 40 odd years footballing experience at the highest level, but obviously some folk on here know better than him, the only mistake Smith made was coming back to a club he loves and taking abuse from so calles fans for doing an excellent job. C-bear85

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18 Feb 2011 20:41:00
I can't understand it either Athiest.

I'm sure we're all better managers from the stands aren't we?! I know I am. And I'm even better on Football Manager 2011.

Some people have short memories and short fuses. Walter Smith is the 2nd greatest manager we have EVER had, behind Mr Struth. He's won 8 league titles, 5 Scottish Cups and 5 league cups. He's also taken us to the UEFA cup final.

You dissenting bears need to realise this fantastic achievement, digest it and move on.

Daviet

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18 Feb 2011 20:49:52
"Walters had really good luck with refereeing decisions too"

Not more than any other manager out there, as well you know. .

Daviet

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18 Feb 2011 20:24:38
Walters had really good luck with refereeing decisions too, better being lucky than good so they say

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18 Feb 2011 20:24:45
Lafferty is beyond a joke now, why sign healy on a short term loan and not play him?? ? ?walter is doing my head in with the rubbish negative tactics, , , celtic are not barca so lets get in to them

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18 Feb 2011 19:10:35
Just catching up with some of the posts and, I'm sorry, but I cannot understand any Rangers fan who has a go at Mr Smith (one or two if you might know him as Walter). This guy has performed miracles. Ok, it's not been the most attractive, especially in Europe, but f*ck me, you've won 6 trophies to our 2 in the last couple of years. Yes, he's had (lots of) luck with injuries and the like, but given the well publicised circumstances, I can't imagine anyone else could have done better. Never mind being afraid this season, it's next season and ones after that you need to worry about. Anyone who thinks there is a saint (snigger. .do you see what I did there?) waiting to come in and perform yet more miracles, needs to sober up!

Atheist

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18 Feb 2011 17:15:05
Time to start the laugh at lafferty foundation
every rangers fan pays money to buy out his contract and send the freak back to the circus
up 4 it

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18 Feb 2011 17:25:37
How many chances does lafferty need to score to many good went passin bye again jelavic healy to start sunday?

I'm thinking he needs at least 10 or so. I'm hoping for Jelva up front with Diouf in behind. Davis on the right with Edu and Bartley in the middle and Naisy on the left.

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18 Feb 2011 15:20:28
GTID {ed's note - I am not sure that is true myself, I think it is just Walter Smith's brand of football and it works for him. But I don't think that it would have been impossible to win by playing attractive football, but it would take a manager who knows how to get the best from players playing that way. I think that is the most difficult thing to find. Most attacking managers forget the defensive side of the game completely.}

Re: hmm and u think with the restraints he was under he could have attracted the better players to gers at the time. I agree he is a defensivly minded manager but his teams can attack (as was seen in earlier days of his gers career when able to buy good attacking players he could play an attacking game. Obv im gonna be slightly biased but as a gers man the is total hero for us to take that le guen team to were he did was unthinkable as a ger.

GTID {ed's note - I don't think he is the right type of person to get the players he does have playing that way is more the point I was making. His strengths are defensive, maybe with the right coaching staff alongside him he could have worked a different way with the players he has and been more attacking and still picked up the league titles. But I do agree that with what he has this was the only way to get them.}

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18 Feb 2011 14:50:53
GTID {ed's note - he has worked miracles, it is just a shame he has done it with such negative football. But it can't be denied that it is one hell of an achievement.}

Re: True ed but we all know that in football results and success always take priority over attractive football. There is no way we would have won what we have whilst net spending what he has done if he wanted to bring a stylish football cos the money just wasnt there to attract they kind of players. (bear in mind for gers survival it was essential we got results and success to clear some of the debt) therefore we could have been looking at a barron sort of decade or more of gers not winning a sausage due to finances had smith been more interested in a brand of football rather than pure results. Personally i will be thankful til the day I die for the job he has done for gers since coming back. To have won back to back titles, and a euro final whilst taking over one of the poorest squads in the history of gers with very little money is the best achievement by a manager in scotland for easily the past 20 years id say.

GTID {ed's note - I am not sure that is true myself, I think it is just Walter Smith's brand of football and it works for him. But I don't think that it would have been impossible to win by playing attractive football, but it would take a manager who knows how to get the best from players playing that way. I think that is the most difficult thing to find. Most attacking managers forget the defensive side of the game completely.}

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18 Feb 2011 14:36:35
Alright Guy's I'm here to point out something. Kyle Lafferty is the WORST player I have ever laid my eyes on. Honestly if we could resign Bert Konterman I would rather play him instead. I would pay another club 2 million pounds to take this guy. He is woeful, first touch. CRAP. Vision. .CRAP. Finishing. .CRAP. Attitude. . CRAP. Hairdo. .CRAP. Burd. . LOVLEY. I honestly think we would have been better playing without a striker last night as he is F***ing S****, He is the worst player I have ever seen and I'm including Scottish Amateur football here. how many chances will this guy get. A few mates of mine said he can be good and that he has just to find some consistency . BALL'S. . I think this guy plays so crap all the time when he does play ok (and I use that word loosely) people think is a great performance. GET LAFERTY OUT NOW! ! ! !

cbear85

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18 Feb 2011 14:27:27
"hes actually spent 37 million in 3 years"

£37mill? Really? £37mill? In 3 years?

Would you care to quantify that for me? (That means do the sums for the me)

Daviet

Re: Dont bite with this dumba$$ davie . yes wattie has spent £37.65m since he has been back but they fail to say that he has recuperated (that means got money back for they lot! ) £34.75m in players alone before mentioning winning the league twice and uefa final and champ leagues. A Net spend of £3m so he is actually spending £1m a year! ! tell me another manager in the world that you have known to get the results he has whilst net spending £1m (bearing in mind that this was also to build a new team not taking over a settled one) Personally i think they achievments are up there as some of the best managerial achievments prob in the last sorta decade or two.

Walter Smith true gers legend, us gers fans sometimes don't know how lucky we are.

Ed, as an impartial footie fan surely you recognise the minor miracles Smith has performed at rangers (if at the cost of a more attractive brand of football)

GTID {ed's note - he has worked miracles, it is just a shame he has done it with such negative football. But it can't be denied that it is one hell of an achievement.}

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18 Feb 2011 13:55:37
Smith is NOT a good manager, he is tactically inept, especially in Europe.

NOT a good manager?? Look at his record back to back titles with financial restraints. Espescially in Europe?? Uefa Cup Final 2008 you got a short memory.

Billyboy!

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18 Feb 2011 13:42:43
"hes actually spent 37 million in 3 years"

£37mill? Really? £37mill? In 3 years?

Would you care to quantify that for me? (That means do the sums for the me)

Daviet

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18 Feb 2011 13:45:41
"The problem you've got is the dearth of options, as evidenced by the lack of subs tonight"

I agree Athiest.

I would have preferred to have seen EHD up front with Fleck behind him in the 2nd half. Or even Healy replacing Lafferty.

Mind you, saying that, Lafferty was in great positions. .just final touch stuff. . Will be good to see Naisy back. And I hope NEss is gonna be ok

Daviet

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18 Feb 2011 13:27:46
1 win in their last 18 european matches, what a record walter the myth has, remember when u say nae dough 2 in a row- another myth, hes actually spent 37 million in 3 years, then again your mob had the t-shirts claiming he never spent a penny, must be true then.

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18 Feb 2011 10:57:58
I didn't watch only listened to the game last night but when they scored i switched off but did Smith make any subs after they scored ?
Listening to the 2nd half, it was basically all Rangers for 30 mins, then Sporting pressed & Rangers players were getting tired, why didn't Smith make at least 2 subs then? i've said before & will continue to say, Smith is NOT a good manager, he is tactically inept, especially in Europe.

RE: you do know that sporting scored in the last minute of the 90 mins?

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18 Feb 2011 10:48:22
I didn't watch only listened to the game last night but when they scored i switched off but did Smith make any subs after they scored ?
Listening to the 2nd half, it was basically all Rangers for 30 mins, then Sporting pressed & Rangers players were getting tired, why didn't Smith make at least 2 subs then? i've said before & will continue to say, Smith is NOT a good manager, he is tactically inept, especially in Europe.

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18 Feb 2011 10:24:30
Think its about time sir walter left, another tactically inept performance tonite, time for billy davies or big tel to step in and change our style. .take ally with you.
in walter we once trusted

Re: aye ok timothy, gers should have won last night if the players did their job we would have won comfortably.

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18 Feb 2011 09:07:19
How many chances does lafferty need to score to many good went passin bye again jelavic healy to start sunday?

I think ur right Jelavic Healy should start up front together but Walter won't take that gamble he is so defensive its unreal! WATP.

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