Rangers Banter Archive December 18 2013

 

Use our rumours form to send us rangers transfer rumours.


18 Dec 2013 19:15:58
Quite strange today one of the supporters groups (the assembly I think) won't be urging a boycott or refusal to buy merchandise!

What will the fans do once the AGM has been decided and according to the BBC the current board have supposed to be getting re elected? Will this ramp up opinion on Stockbridge in particular? And will the club continue to use the slimy sneaky toxic jack irvine? The chairman looks like a plant every time he opens his mouth and has lost any credibility he may have had.

Will the sleazdales invest any actual cash into rangers? The myth about him putting in £1. 5M is pure fiction and the only person who benefited from that was chiko.

This looks like another long drawn out affair and confirms beyond any reasonable doubt this board are not interested in any rangers fans! More worryingly is the faceless investors who in fact have the most control over rangers and are quite happy to allow this band of "great stadium robbers" to continue to plunder the cookie jar, once empty they will move on very wealthy people laughing at how the gullible fans allowed it to happen.

RR

Believable0 Unbelievable0

Op the faceless investers are the great stadium robbers one and the same

Agree0 Disagree0

So what can you or anyone do about it. Be great full we have a team to still support. If it really narks you that much that these people are in control ask the question of the murrays and mcoll as to why they refused to put money real money into rangers to safe it from the hands of this lot. In my opinion they are the ones to blame for this lot getting in in the first place. I have no time for these lot as they want something for nothing and are stirring up tensions between the fans to try and destabilise the current board ultimately destabilising rangers at the same time.

Agree0 Disagree0

@2 mate the requisitioners only want what's best for the club and have offered to do it for nothing so that begs the question why do the board not want to work with them and somers Wallace and Crichton put nothing into the club but are taking money out and the chuckle brothers haven't said anything but come out a couple of days before the agm and as for somers he is just spouting the same p*sh green and Mather also somers couldn't even answer the question of who hired him

Agree0 Disagree0

@2, well said Pat

Agree0 Disagree0

Well said number 2 we know once duff and phelps got involved put in by cw there was only going to be one winner hence the sudden apearence of another unknown millionaire charliebhoy we are now being played like a game of guess whos next through the green door first white then green I dread to think the next gut could be mr golde but it wouldn't surprise me conned to feck

Agree0 Disagree0

Thebear82. If they only want what's best for the club why not put the money in so they have the power to do what's best for the club. Eh because they are greedy and don't want to have to spend any of there own cash. And they said they would do it for free until we got back to the top league. In my opinion that's just cheap point scoring. If they care about rangers that much do it for free the the whole time they are there at the end of the day none of them are short of a bob or two. Stop kidding yourself they don't care about you or rangers all they care about is there over sized egos. You believe green and whyte pulled the wool over our eyes this lot would do the exact same.

Agree0 Disagree0

N6 the current board are not willing to put there money in either so the old saying comes to mind yer better wae the devil yae know

Agree0 Disagree0

N5 poster here I meant to say well said n3 instead of n2 cheers ed

Agree0 Disagree0

18 Dec 2013 19:10:45
Still not convinced as no one has disclosed
were the rumours have come from,
surely as is being reported if the board
have a majority of the vote being the
people they are they would be gloating
and shouting from the rooftops
r. f

Believable0 Unbelievable0

It was reported on bbc news last night then removed from futere news stories jack irvine at work no doubt

Agree0 Disagree0

18 Dec 2013 18:04:14
1 thing that kinda cheered me up a bit after the agm votes not going the way I wanted is Dave King is still very interested in getting involved with us. Read his recent interview.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

Dk says 100 per cent he will get involved some day then if you read on he is saying some day covers a long period of time ie maybe 10 years maybe 20 from now

Agree0 Disagree0

18 Dec 2013 17:00:48
this AGM is going to be non-event of year.

The vote is already cast - if the Chairman has got his head screwed on it will be over in 45 mins - there is no scope within AGM structure for questions from floor or any other business

Believable0 Unbelievable0

{Ed039's Note - Surely at the end of the agenda there is an item listed as AOCB??)

Ed. not if the Chairman has got it right - if its not on the agenda then that's it. remember its a PLC AGM for company shareholders - nothing to with club.

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed039's Note - I am positive every agenda for every AGM must end AOCB but I may be wrong in thinking that)

18 Dec 2013 16:07:58
SPIVS OUT. Anybody that backs this board needs their heads examined, boycotts only way forward, please don't get sucked by easdales etc. Learn from mistakes, learn from backing whyte then green, please fellow bears please don't back this mob.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

18 Dec 2013 16:00:35
Democratic process. Were the overwhelming majority of fans votes don't count? This makes me sick. This board will ruin us.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

{Ed039's Note - It doesnt matter what the normal fans say, institutional investors and hedge funds etc own the majority of the shares and that is what counts in the process, if you own shares you get to vote or nominate someone to vote in your place, the majority vote wins, that is democratic and there is no way around that)

But what worries me ed is hedge funds control Rangers now and what do hedge funds do but make money for their investors they could not give one hoot about the club it's make as much money as they can then off I don't trust this board Stockbridge must go and take his video camera with him followed by that Jack Irvine how dare he talk of John Greig the way he did and STILL be on the pay roll how sad we have came to this

Agree0 Disagree0

18 Dec 2013 11:38:17
Well Whyte has lost his appeal and now has to pay 17ml, would imagine if as some people seem to think he still has involvement at ibrox it would all come out now as Ticketus chase cash.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

We will see what assets he has as ticketus take them one by one until they get 17m quids worth,

finally whyte is getting what he is long overdue

JG

Agree0 Disagree0

@1 do you really think it's going to be that easy to get hold of Whyte's assets? That man is devious and it's a sure thing that he has businesses in other names and money hidden all over the place. I seriously doubt that he will be losing any sleep over this and has spent his adult life being pursued for money yet he still lives in the lap of luxury. Absolutely sickening that someone has such a carefree attitude when he has swindled so many people.

Agree0 Disagree0

@2, you are correct, however what I am saying is that IF he still has any involvement there will now be plenty looking into it.

Agree0 Disagree0

Craig shyte will maybe be thinking he should have invested his money in open prisons lol

Agree0 Disagree0

To any persons on here thinking craig whyte will pay a penny to any debtors you clearly have not paid attention to this mans MO

FFS he was thrown out Kevnside Academy as he wouldn't pay attention.

CW will have all assets and cash in offshore accounts registered in company nameswithnominated director and secretary HO KNOWS AND PAYS to do this for him

Rich people going bankrupt stay rich only poor people lose out.

Donald Trump a prime example

Sad but true we should all be glad the only thing CG did I admired was shaft CW on the sevco thing as we could easily have been looking at ticketus wanting Ibrox and MP now.

CG an a******e but played that one well

george

boardroom will listen to fans if they are united

ignore the carrot pre seasons and hold a united demo with the £10m/£12m seasons 'proxied' to pay for seasons on condition boardroom changes and fans rep on the board

No £10m ok we poss in Admin but better than it being stolen and dished out in 1p shares.

I am not saying I do not trust ALL board just some and I want a balanced board 3 from either side democratic nd not democratic due to mystery share holder votes

george

Agree0 Disagree0

You would imagine with all the money craig white has put through his hands the guy would get himself a new half decent suit he has wore that suit more times than he s washed his face

Agree0 Disagree0

18 Dec 2013 10:27:37
Well, well apparently more underhand tactics
by this board or people working for them
leaking stories that they had won the vote
ahead of the agm, apparently this was leaked
to deter people from turning up on Thursday
HOW LOW WILL THESE PEOPLE GO!
I NOW URGE ALL HONEST AND TRUE
FANS, SHAREHOLDERS, AND INVESTORS
TO TURN UP AT THE AGM AND SHOW
THESE PEOPLE THE DOOR
r. f

Believable0 Unbelievable0

Op so you have definate proof where this story came from?

looking at previous issues with HMRC, SFA, SPL, various hearings and other instances, there appeared to be no shortage of people in inside positions who were only to willing to leak confidential information regarding Rangers

It should be easy enough to find who leaked this info (if indeed someone did) as there can't be too many who are prviledge to this information at this time

JG

Agree0 Disagree0

Before I let my feelings on the board be known, can I first deliver a grovelling apology to Super Ally McCoist. Ally, I apologise for anything that I have said, or accused you of, over the last few months. I came on here and accused you of having no backbone a couple of weeks past, and for that, I am truly sorry! Ally, for what you did with your shares, you have restored all my faith in what being a true Rangers man means. Yes, there are still those who might be a little suspicious on why you did this and might suspect it was done for purely selfish reasons. But, I for one do not believe this, and I believe that you have timed this just right, hopefully. Now, on to the board, and their slime bag, muck slinging, rent a gob, Jack Irvine. You are a slug, a poor excuse of a man, hell bent on bad mouthing anyone with the good of my club at heart. We all know that it was you behind the leaked figures of proxy votes cast on behalf of shareholders, and we know why you done it. Do you really think you can pressure our shareholding fans into voting for your spiv paymasters with such pathetic, underhand tactics? I hope, I really do, that by releasing this information you find yourself up to your brass neck in the brown stuff.

Agree0 Disagree0

In my opinion this is a deliberate leak from a present board member (s) to the media in an attempt to help diffuse a potential volatile AGM,. If true, then there must be something the board are trying to hide from the fans that warrants such a tactic. 56 titles overall and counting.

Agree0 Disagree0

No proof JG but who else apart from the present board or people working fo them would come out with this so near the agm
r. f

Agree0 Disagree0

How can you show them the door if they have won a democratic process?

Agree0 Disagree0

@4 who leaked info from the hmrc case who leaked info from dealings with spl who leaked info from sfa hearings, my point is there appears to be no shortage of individuals prepared to leak info, ask yourself why the bbc, and why now, are they not still banned from ibrox do they not try and continually issue derogatory statements against us, don't think it's as cut and dried as a few make out

JG

Agree0 Disagree0

@5 someone is saying they have won it has not been proven yet, that's why I am asking people to turn up and cast your vote then see what final result is
r. f

Agree0 Disagree0

18 Dec 2013 17:13:45
Perfect timing ally just before the news broke about the current board winning the vote you give the fans you're vote, when U new fine well it would meen nothing, YOU DON'T FOOL ME, is this another pr stunt to keep the fans on your side or another stunt by U and the board to try and keep the fans comming to ibrox. because let's face it your vote ment nothing to them and u new it. But there u go the board are happy and your happy collecting your massive salary. new guy

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed039's Note - This had crept into my train of thought as well)

@8 excellent post mate 100% spot on

Agree0 Disagree0

@8 spot on new guy, PR stunt (most likely) or on the advice of his advisors, Allys manoeuvred himself into a win win position ffs even George thinks he`s a hero now.

PR stunt, and he gets his reward in extra shares resolution 9/10, from present board.
not a stunt, gets sacked first bad result, receives full contract pay off without the need to prove himself at a higher level, result

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed039's Note - Posted by bluebeard)

Well to all those that wanted these lot out or would never be back to ibrox or buy merchandise or anything else to do with rangers bye bye. Us real fans will keep supporting through thick and thin. Yes they might have robbed us blind. But I'd rather be robbed and have a team to support and follow. Than think everything should be as I want and have no team to support. I can't afford to buy rangers you can't afford to buy it either so it's not up to us how the club is run. These people bought the club and if there only intention was to bleed us supporters dry then fair doos. At least we still have a team. Paul Murray and jim mcoll won't risk any of there own cash so what right do they have for a seat on the board. Now either except what we have or go support another team.

Agree0 Disagree0

@8 AND ed I think it is simpler than that because sadly Ally our on field scoring hero is quite a simple fellow. Vote for the rebels and they lose gives you problems. Vote for the board and the rebels win gives you the same problems. GIVE THE FANS YOUR VOTE and even your sternest critics amongst them will think what a splendid chap you are. If you cannot see that can I suggest you are probably late for work. Incidentally I think he did the correct and ONLY thing he could do under the circumstances. So well done Ally!

Agree0 Disagree0

N11 of corse we all want a club to follow but how can you say its cool for them to rob us blind the money they robbed us for could have been used for better things than board members buying fancy houses with stolen money its ok if yae can get it eh I think not

Agree0 Disagree0

@13 yes the money could have been used for better things but like a said what can me or you the normal joes do about it. No it's not cool that they are robbing us blind but the persons who say boycott don't buy merchandise etc etc. that won't hurt this lot it's probably what they want so they can sell ibrox and Murray park then put us into admin. Then us fans would try and buy the club which is what they want. Because ibrox and Murray park would have been sold to some shady company linked to green and whyte so they can continue to milk us dry for years to come. The only thing boycotts and not buying merchandise hurts is rangers.

Agree0 Disagree0

N14 so going by your posts you are saying let the current board rob us blind rather than another board of unknowns rob us blind ime saying get this lot out who knows maybe dk and others are working behind scenes to get rid of these greedy skint bar stewards

Agree0 Disagree0

@12 you have to ask yourself is Ally that simple, the week before the AGM he did not know who to vote for, then rumour's abound that the board have already won the vote, Ally then give's his proxy to the supporter's, now the supporter's are shouting what a guy, what if he already knew the outcome, what if the board and him think "if Ally is the good guy, the fan's will buy new season ticket's if Ally urge's them to ", I don't believe there is anything simple about Ally, I think he is very astute, I mean if anyone believe's he did not know how much he was getting paid, the must live in cuckoo land.
Tam

Agree0 Disagree0

Ally told the good folks of east kilbride rsc ages ago that they would have his vote.

Agree0 Disagree0

@17 So Ally told another LIE, the WEEK before the A G M he did not know who he was voting for, now you say he told EK supporter's age's ago, so either you tell lie's or Ally doe's.
Tam

Agree0 Disagree0

18 Dec 2013 09:23:58
Well since I heard the news the current board are claiming to be re-elected through the vote I am absolutely disgusted. There are for and against here in terms of the requistisioners tactics and decision not to buy up some shares. I can't believe these guys have got their feet under the table and I feel sick to thing these people are anywhere near Ibrox and walking up and down the marble staircase like it means nothing. To me Rangers is everything. I grew up through 9 in a row and seen some great players and saw us win some great games and trophies. The way we are now is so disheartening. I still don't want to believe it's all done and dusted as I can't understand how Stockbridge has been allowed to remain. This may change tomorrow. I guess I am holding out hope that at least 2 of the requisitioners will be allowed onto the board but in all honesty I can't see it.
Stockbridge is due to get access to 500k in shares (posted by someone on here yesterday) and the most disgusting is Jack Irvine who according to Malcolm Murray will get a huge bonus for the current board remaining in power. These guys are conmen, the Easdales are mearly puppets to Charles Green and the people he represents i. e Margharita, BPH.
The club has so many people dipping into the club it is no wonder we are heading into trouble. I personally believe they will run the club dry and Ibrox and MP will be sold and leased back through an associate of Green which will be portrayed as saving the club. 2nd admin is also a possibility. Not one mandate has been put forward by the current board to protect Ibrox & MP from being sold or any other proposal to appease the fans. It infuriates me that these spivs are running our club and there is nothing that can be done. I believe we will be shown a carrot before the ST money is due for 2014/15 season and then normal service will resume.
We are too faithful and will no doubt buy season books again even though we know what's happening and where it's going.
I apologise for the rant but the wee glimmer of change I'd hoped for has been ripped away from me with the news last night
Coisty09

Believable0 Unbelievable0

The board did not claim anything, this is a story about information allegedly leaked to the bbc, we don't know who leaked the information, at least get the facts right before you go off on wan
You may not have noticed but the bbc have previous with regard to their treatment of reporting on rangers lately

JG

Agree0 Disagree0

What I said is as a concerned supporter. Irregardless who leaked the proxy vote, it's still disheartening going into the biggest AGM of our history. As for "going off on Wan", I didn't realise it was a crime to be passionate about what's happened at our club and what may happen after tomorrow. Clearly you have it sussed

Agree0 Disagree0

N2 of corse is a crime to go of on one me personally I hope the current board charter a private plane being flown by one of them and it crashes killing all on board and that's me giving them an easy way out

Agree0 Disagree0

@1 Eh what was the result of the vote JG?
Tam

Agree0 Disagree0

 
Change Consent