Rangers Banter Archive August 18 2020

18 Aug 2020 22:02:03
Guys putting this new post on instead of replying to one way down page as I want to direct a few questions for

@John25 and hoping he sees It tonight or tomorrow

1st off though I'd like to say I agree with KJA9 down the page
It might be negative what we're now saying but it's going with what we see playing in front of us - not saying crap to be bad about team or Gerrard

Sometimes in life you come up against something that's too big - could be or not be happening to Gerrard right now

Just my opinion

At John25 you said you think it will take another few years For us to win the league as we're building the team up just now?

Sorry to say you must also be in the negative squad 👍 lol

But my my main question for you John was someone mentioned possibly Mccrorie going to Aberdeen that Ferguson could be involved coming to us as you said you know the Mccrorie family
Do you know if any substance to this rumour? Or any of there players coming opposite way?

And the other question was
You said you heard if we clear out the guys we now don't want that a few players could be signed before transfer deadline

Any names of who they possibly are or what positions he's still looking to fill or add cover for?

Sorry for all the questions I'm a bit nosey as you may have guessed and hate the waiting game haha

Any info you could share would be very much appreciated

And if you want to keep things close to your chest for time being that's also cool bud

Just thought I'd ask incase you can share at this stage if you had indeed heard a bit more
😊😊.

18 Aug 2020 22:24:57
I know the family, two things how would they know rangers transfer intentions.
And if they did they certainly would not tell me or anyone else. they are a family of impeccable trust.

With regards signings the honest answer is no. I could make up a few names, but never do that. What I do know is we r looking at first pick high level players.
We r not in a rush to sell Alf. Also I have been told Olsen is wanted, two mids and mb rb cover.
None off that should surprise anyone, as many write that on here.

18 Aug 2020 22:36:23
Sorry one More point to john and everyone else for that matter

If it wasn’t Steven Gerrard in charge right now and all money spent so far say it was still Graham murty or if it was warburton
Even pedro can’t forget he was the one who brought in Alfie?

If we’re still building and being able to spend this money on some thoughts that we still ain’t good enough to win the league

Can I ask - why does Gerrard get too be the guy building the team? What experience has he in building teams from scratch and getting the winning formula at the end?

Why not the other guys I mentioned? Pedro was a nightmare but was he given 3 seasons?

Mccoist never got any real money to spend and took over when we were in the rubbish

Just wondering why does Gerrard get the 99.9% backing mangers of the past never got

It’s Been a burning question of mine for a while now

SGL
John25
Irver
BlueWouldDo
Mr grumpy
Mocbear
KRi55
KJA9

Sorry for anyone I missed out I know there’s many

I’m just interested to know evryones opinion

Why does the inexperience of Steven Gerrard get to be the guy that gets to build a team from scratch and gets possibly 3 seasons to win something

Why not a an experienced guy

Listen it’s a sincere question not trying to heckle anyone
Be good to see everyone’s point of view for discussion 😊😊.

18 Aug 2020 22:46:11
Stigno for the avoidance of doubt I have never been told a story by anyone directly involved at rangers about transfer business. Example my comment about mcrorie going for a medical at Aberdeen came from sky, Not any where else.
I am like many on here who pick up snippets from friends who hear stories, rumours gossip.
And choose to share bits off it if I think it is off interest.

18 Aug 2020 23:28:00
Gerrard has spent the best part of 30mil how can we still be rebuilding, that's ridiculous. We should have been serious challengers last year and fell well short. No more excuses. 👍.

19 Aug 2020 04:20:13
If we had built the team, league would have been won by now. Stigno he gets the money to try stop ten.

19 Aug 2020 04:30:21
Supporters 😆 🤣 😂.

19 Aug 2020 07:34:13
Someone posted above "another few years to win the league". Well I'm sorry, if that's the case then I'm lost for words. How many titles do we need to sit back seeing them winning exactly?

19 Aug 2020 07:35:44
Why didn't rangers go for an experienced man instead of SG I've no idea.
The reason I've given SG support is I can see what he and the club are trying to build.
I genuinely think we can win the league this season, especially with a couple more signings.

19 Aug 2020 07:51:18
Decent question Stigno. In all honesty I think the reason Gerrard has had more time and money is a few of reasons. Firstly in my opinion the calibre of player we have signed under Gerrard has been better than it was and I think that is basically down to his reputation. Before anyone jumps down my throat and lists all the signing that haven't worked out let me clarify that. i'm well aware that a lot of signings haven't worked, Grezda, Sadiq, Jones etc but the players we have been targeting are generally of a better standard than before. Secondly, I think our European performances have gone a long way to the board giving the manager extra funds. Lastly I think the presence of a Director of Football also helps. Mark Allen and now Ross Wilson are in part responsible for signings too. I don't know fully the working relationship between SG and RW but I imagine its something like SG going to RW and saying he needs a player in a certain position and RW would then list suggestions to SG from the knowledge that he and the scouting team have and then SG has the final say. Before SG came to the club we had no scouting network. That side of the club has been built up from nothing and there has been a marked improvement in our youth system. Our young players are of a much higher standard than before SG came in. We attract young players from all over Europe now. Granted we seem to then lose them to other clubs after a season or 2 and that is my biggest frustration with SG. So much work has gone into building our academy up and we watch our talent walk out the door. that's the area I would like to see improvement. A clear pathway to the first team. Patterson has a chance but that's about it.

Stigno, my answer is all over the place because as I was writing my head started filling with all sorts of opinions lol but hope that answers your question or at least part of it.

19 Aug 2020 08:02:57
Morning Stig fella.

My, opinion in it re Gerrard is this. he was a big name and could attract a better calibre of player which we certainly have.
Its a rebuild, anyone we have won't do this in one season. I think that the board have backed him, as with any job, he impressed most on interview?
I hate not winning every game and do get frustrated but we have improved, all over the club. Maybe we could have done with an advisor to SG for 1 maybe 2 yrs but i read that he's in constant contact with Sir Walter?
So its not an easy asnswet tbh mate i just think the board have seen it, on his appointment, as a longer project.
Not ideal I know but. bigger managers with bigger budgets at big clubs have tried n failed so.

19 Aug 2020 08:43:46
Good. Post kriss.

19 Aug 2020 08:58:03
John25,i also heard that we're very interested in danish winger skov olsen, but have to shift players out the door first. Brian laudrup allegedly highly recommended him as did peter lovenkrands 👍Was hearing the deal would be similar to the hagi deal, with loaning skov olsen from bologna for a season with the option to buy at the end of the season, on a set transfer fee agreed between both rangers and bologna. I really hope we get him, as he looks terrific and was never suited to italian football, a bit like brian laudrup wasn't all these years ago now!

19 Aug 2020 09:05:33
Morning Stig, Gerrard has restored our name on the European stage, yes, he has spent money, but he inherited a total mess created by those before him. We also have a new Board, whom, I feel, are more professional than what we have had for years, I would think that we are probably in a break even situation as regards money spent versus made in his two years.

The one disappointment for me has been the lack of young players coming through who would have saved us money in the transfer market. Don't forget the money spent by Alex Ferguson at Manchester United before they saw a return on it, so we need to stop the knee jerk reaction every time we don't get it all our own way, we are still a work in progress, but, I feel we are heading in the right direction, now this is only mu own view, I wouldn't expect everyone to agree with me.

Hopefully Stig, that gives you some sort feeling as to how others may thinking, your view may differ, but, keep posting them.

19 Aug 2020 09:07:20
Why don’t we splash out and bring in players who will guarantee us the league?

Messi and Ronaldo are unhappy with their clubs and there must be a couple of superstar attacking midfielders to unlock defences like Livi.

Surely we can risk £200m or so to stop 10 in a row even if it means liquidation?

Time to take a reality pill and accept that Celtic are a really strong team and we have no divine right to overhaul them. SG had a major rebuild from youth set up to first team and he is well on the road to success.

Those of you who crave instant success are living in the Murray days where we could attract top internationals (but not necessarily afford them) .

19 Aug 2020 09:37:46
Stevie G got the job because of his name as a Footballer to hopefully attract better players but for me the majority of his signing has not been successful it’s a poor record in that sense.

I have never said he should be sacked or leave yet.
I just don’t see any positives from the way we play as seen by Livingston.
People can say it’s only 4 games in but it echos the 2nd half of last season and more often than not we are going to face teams like that week in week out in this league.

We need another 3/ 4 players in I reckon:

19 Aug 2020 09:38:35
Morning everyone

Great response, thank you for all your replies and you
Logic behind your thinking on the situation

I agree with a lot of what you all say in bits and parts

Our training academy, youngsters getting lost along the way go g on to other clubs not getting a real chance to shine etc

It’s a new board and we are re building from the mess we were not so long ago in

And we are now starting to attract the better calibre of players

And we are playing better football overall - European run proves that

Just need more consistency

And hopefully as some of you said one or 2 more good players in the door might be the finishing touch
We need

Fingers crossed

But again thanks for reply’s - it’s appreciated 😊😊.

19 Aug 2020 09:59:37
Yes stig the replies have been good reading. I agree with most of what is being said. Irvger I'm not going to say you are wrong definitively about the breakeven over the last coue of years but just from memory I would think we are a long way from breakeven. I think or should I say it feels like we've spent way more than what we've brought in. Happy to be proved wrong my friend but maybe someone with the knowledge of outgoings to incoming transfer fees can let us know.

19 Aug 2020 10:10:58
Nonsense DK, gerrard has spent the bulk of 30mil, if that was murty pedro or anyone else they would be gone. We should have been serious challengers last year, we fell well short. CV halting the league did gerrard a favour👍.

19 Aug 2020 15:59:51
MOC Bear and Coldo, what I was referring to overall was the cost of players versus the cost of earnings from Europe. I am aware that the total cost of running the Club would exceed the income, but, I am hopeful, that the new Reatil position will negate that short to medium term and allow us to move on without soft loans as was the case previously, as I said many others will have their own views on things which is what the form is all about.

18 Aug 2020 20:53:20
Stuart munro.

18 Aug 2020 19:47:21
Derek Mcinnes is an absolute joke of a man never mind a manager. We have well and truly dodged a bullet when he didn't want to come to us. I've just watched his interview where he is responding to Ron Gordon saying Aberdeen should be docked points. He's saying that a lot of clubs all over the country will be sighing with relief that Aberdeen players got caught and not other teams players and that he knows that not everyone is squeaky clean. Its an irresponsible response. If he knows of others that have broken the rules he should now be told by SFA to name those players. This is a global C.V. and by not sticking to the rules it puts other lives at risk. He should be naming and proving who else has broken these rules in order to protect others. If he is just saying this because he's on the defensive then that is as equally irresponsible. Wee Nicola has told football that there will be no more chances and that football will be suspended if further rules are broken. i'd be very surprised if she doesn't instruct her government to investigate Mcinnes comments and football does indeed get suspended. What an idiot he is.

18 Aug 2020 20:42:48
I didn't see this interview but he probably didn't name these other players because they also play for Aberdeen 😂.

18 Aug 2020 16:50:11
Daniel James, give me a break, are we signing him after the Ronaldo and Messi deals have been concluded. Let's be serious, thoughts please, it is probably time for some of the minge players to go, I'd agree with that. Stewart and Barker should be among these but I watched Hibs play us a few years back and Barker absolutely destroyed us, confidence was sky high, what happened because the players we had at the time were probably on a par with what we play against now, it's odd. Similarly Stewart was a performer for Killie nearly every week. They probably aren't at Rangers level but they seem to play with fear now, was the move just too big for them? . In other news, I'm hearing that some spl clubs will be using ash pitches next season as well as mould master balls, apparently all part of showcasing the great product we have up here 😂. The new slogan will "SPL let's get behind the ball.

18 Aug 2020 16:57:41
That is the best auto correct I have ever seen on here mate 😂.

18 Aug 2020 17:16:24
He made a can't of that🤣👍.

18 Aug 2020 17:17:27
😂😂😂😂.

18 Aug 2020 17:23:00
Snell it wasn't an auto correct I just have good grasp of the Scottish language 👍, I'm not sure minge would come up as possible replacement for anything, I could be wrong though 😂😂.

18 Aug 2020 17:24:59
All he had to do against us was run into 30 yards of space behind Tav, he will never get that space playing for us.
Jones and Murphy same problem.

18 Aug 2020 17:36:18
Wouldn't even. Stop picking on me, I'm sensitive 🙂. BAR72 I know what you mean there, but watch some of the footage online if you can find it, that wasn't the case that day he looked like a real winger.

18 Aug 2020 17:40:55
What a fanny :)

18 Aug 2020 17:49:33
Coully calm down mate, it was just a joke. I'm sure your giro will in on Friday as usual.

18 Aug 2020 17:55:56
I think coully was just joking🙄👍.

18 Aug 2020 17:59:29
John25,where did you hear/ read that rangers were pursuing man utd winger daniel james, if you don't mind me asking mate? 🤔.

18 Aug 2020 18:11:55
Coldo as I said, when would minge come up in an auto correct, it's unlikely. Sadly if a joke goes over someone's head I can't help that. But anyway, this post isn't to justify my sense of humour. I've been told by a few people on here that you don't think the SFA have it in for Rangers, is this true?

18 Aug 2020 18:17:55
Jesus christ bsmate, we are all laughing with you, we get the joke. We are joining in with the joke. 😏👍.

18 Aug 2020 18:18:39
You said minge we are all making remarks to do with minge. My god man🤦‍♂️👍.

18 Aug 2020 18:50:16
It would appear our friendly thread had been halted. Peace ✌️.

18 Aug 2020 18:56:47
Minge (fanny) . wee joke mate hence why I put the smiley face. not the same when you need to explain it though.

18 Aug 2020 19:50:49
SGL I posted reply elsewhere. Note I said we asked about him, never said we were pursuing him. way out our reach.
I think we need three more, but told clearout will result in five coming in.

18 Aug 2020 20:32:44
Coully, I'm sorry buddy, the emoji didn't come up on my Nokia 3210. It's cool, I hear Apple have released a phone, I'll look into it. For now I'll retract my statement and offer you my heartfelt apology 👍.

18 Aug 2020 20:36:55
A could fair go a bit of minge coully🤪😇.

18 Aug 2020 20:46:22
Yately01 good evening sir 🙂.

19 Aug 2020 02:10:26
I used a smiley face suitable for Nokia 3210 mate ;)

18 Aug 2020 14:37:13
I’ll start off with a bit of a disclaimer. I’m not 100% sure where this rant is going to take me however I just feel I have to say something. Everyone knows this is a big year and everyone ultimately just wants to see us being successful and winning trophies. However some of the stuff I’ve seen written over the past year or so and particularly and increasingly more recently is just incredible. And I’m not saying on here in particular but social media and fan sites in general. The utter hysteria when we don’t win a match (and even in a lot cases now when we win, but not by what some folk consider to be by enough) is unbelievable and becoming unbearable. Is gotten to the point that if we fail to win I just stay off of social media and off here, not because I’m so disappointed (which of course I am) but because some of the abuse/ anger/ hatred/ nonsense that’s directed towards our own players, management, coaches and team in general is shocking and gets me so annoyed.
So far we have played 4 games and not conceded a goal, throw in the 4 proper pre-season games (I’m not including Hamilton before someone pipes up with that as it was more of a training exercise) and it’s 8 games without conceding, that’s pretty outstanding stuff actually and the best defensive start to a league we’ve made in 71 years. Yes it was disappointing not to score on Sunday and yes we all know it’s a problem we’ve had that we need to sort. However to that end we have brought in 2 forwards to try to help, they will however need some time settle in, this ain’t champ manger or FIFA, you don’t just sign a few players and they are immediately world beaters. We all know some teams will play that way against us, you saw the way they celebrated at the end. Getting a 0-0 for them was the stuff of dreams. But we won’t be the only ones it happens to, Celtic have already dropped points in a similar way and we probably both will again over the course of the season. The good thing is even if Celtic win all their games in hand we’ll both be in the same position, we’re not behind. And it’s only 4 games into the season!
Gerrard and all the coaches know there is still work to be done on breaking down teams like that and on bringing in a few more players to help do that. I’m seeing more and more posts questioning the managers position and a large number actively wanting him sacked. A couple of folk on sites this morning stated we were no better off than we were 3 years ago!? 3 years ago we were getting beat off Progress in the first qualifying round, regularly pumped by 4 or 5 goals off Celtic and finishing a very distant and scraped 3rd place! (And the standard of player was awful) I think some folk have very short memories.
I suppose in summary I’d just like to see a little more positivity and a little less of a hysterical reaction to a bad results.

18 Aug 2020 15:19:34
slow hand clap for ‘78.

18 Aug 2020 15:35:17
Gers1978, you've just echoed a few things I've said in posts today already. We are not miles off it, we won a pre-season tournament involving two Champions league semi-finalists, yes, I know they probably weren't at full strength, but, I'll bet they still wanted to win the tournament. We need to hold back a bit, and see where we are at Christmas, it's far too early to make assumptions either way.

18 Aug 2020 16:02:06
Gers 1978, your post is the best of this year by a mile! Superb post and well done. You are absolutely right, far too many doom merchants posting on here. I exclude the media because they are all anti-Rangers anyway. The last time Rangers won all of their league games (100% record) was in 1898/ 99. NO TEAMS WIN EVERY GAME. We'll be alright this season so thanks again mate for your post. I do wish everyone on here was like you. Coldo take note.

18 Aug 2020 16:02:46
Gers 1978 I tend to agree with just about everything you say I really do! Personally I try stay as positive as I can just like the points you've made above, but I do understand why some of the posters are worried because we've been here before in terms of struggling to break down teams and lacking that bit of creativity when we really need it. As it stands I'm still 100% behind the manager and team and really hope that if we're in a game like this again which no doubt we will be and its 60mins on the clock and no goals we can at least try 2 up top to change things. End of the day we're all supporters who want to win something and the support we've shown especially over the last 9 years I think we deserve a bit of luck on and off the pitch. Fingers crossed we can get maybe another 2 players in that can add and make the difference at the top end of the pitch! ✌.

18 Aug 2020 16:08:08
Agree, a few months back some fans were claiming that we could have won the league, catching up 13 points on Celtic and winning every game. Now some are saying that we won't win the league this year when we are sitting on top of the table.

Crazy, albeit it's perfectly valid to offer up some criticism of that team on Sunday and personally I think myself that Tav just didn't look like a captain when we could have done with being rallied up, while Morelos again didn't look like a player anywhere near the board's valuation of him.

18 Aug 2020 16:12:13
Terrifically written post which i agree with Gers1978👏The time for judgement in our management team and players is at the end of the season 👍 Superb stuff Gers1978👌.

18 Aug 2020 16:42:01
A few preseason results, oh dear.

18 Aug 2020 16:47:04
Well done Sir!

18 Aug 2020 16:48:30
I agree with what you say GMW. Obviously no one likes it when we have a poor result and we’d love to go through the season and win every game and at times we will be disappointed and I’m not saying that we shouldn’t be disappointed at times or annoyed by certain performances. I have just been astounded and disappointed with some of the things I’ve read on social media over the last few days (and not just about the Livi result, also in regards to the sales of Docherty and McCrorie as well) . So many ‘supporters’ just seem so quick to jump in and slate everything Rangers or Gerrard related and I just don’t understand some of the reactions. As you may guess from the name I’m 42 now and in the past it was always the case that after a poor result, yes we’d be disappointed but we’d get behind the team, move on to the next result and get behind them and show our support. Now it’s, sack the manager, sell the players, change all the tactics the moment we don’t win a game.
Not sure if it’s a consequence if social media giving everyone a voice, a general sense of entertainment/ lack of patience from a younger generation or panic in regards to the possibility of “10 in a row” for them. Or maybe a mix of all those things.

18 Aug 2020 16:56:35
* entitlement not entertainment, sorry.

18 Aug 2020 17:03:32
And BlueWouldDo, no need to make an issue out of one thing I mentioned. I’m not highlighting preseason games as anything major. I’m merely pointing out that overall we have gone 8 games (over 720 mins of football in total) without conceding a goal. Which ain’t too bad considering all the complaints last season about how terrible half our defence (Tav and Goldson) are. So far we seem to have tightened up a bit at the back (Which I’m sure the coaching team have been working on in training) which was one thing we all felt had to happen, yet I see little praise in regards to that.

18 Aug 2020 17:19:03
You's said let's be positive last year, the year before, the year before, the year before, the year before and oh yeah the year before. When do we start being realistic🤔👍.

18 Aug 2020 17:20:05
Gers 78 very well written. Blue would do one of them.

18 Aug 2020 17:43:34
Ummm no I didn’t coldo, especially since I’ve only been posting on here for the last two years. So please kindly take that thumb of yours and place it firmly up your arse 😁. And anyway I was merely talking about some of the over hysterical reactions and general nonsense that seem to come from some sections of our ‘support’ on social media. I’m not saying everyone should always blindly follow with fingers crossed when real change is required (ie times like when Pedro was in charge) .

18 Aug 2020 17:58:57
I said you's 78 meaning collectively not you specifically

18 Aug 2020 19:52:55
Coldo u say be realistic, have u ever read my posts when I say we will mb not win league for another two three years.
We r building, most don’t like that but I’m being realistic.

18 Aug 2020 20:24:10
SGL the time for judgement is not the end of the seaso he hasn’t learned from the year before or the year before that the end of the season they will have won 10 as that lot won’t win no league you lot can call me negative all you like as I know it’s being a realist unless we get a new captain and right back a box to box midfielder and at least one more winger we haven’t a hope in hell.

18 Aug 2020 13:05:54
Right heres my issue. Folk wanting 1 holding mid ( which is fine i do to) but then name kamara a guy who can at times be tidy on the ball. But in very same breath is very lightweight and would back out of a good solid tackle where as we all know ryan jack isn't backing out and can definately play. Was arguably our most consistant player last season.

18 Aug 2020 14:29:30
Personally I would be absolutely delighted if we could sell Kamara and bring in a top quality box to box midfield player. I agree 100% with Paul86, Kamara is very lightweight, goes missing when the going gets tough and as with Sunday adds absolutely nothing in an attacking sense. He dithers on the ball, he slows things down too much, the majority of his passes are square, are back or go to the opposition. We need a heavyweight that can track back in defend or can carry the ball forward, take a man on and distribute to ball well. Someone that can complement Aribo and Jack. The type of player that would be ideal doesn't exist within our price range in Scotland but if our Scouting System is up to par then we should be able to find that type of player in Eastern Europe or further afield.

18 Aug 2020 16:02:57
Berkshire Blue, we already had a box-to-box player in Docherty.

18 Aug 2020 18:00:35
Its like hardie all over again🤦‍♂️😂👍.

18 Aug 2020 18:08:06
Doiger he means a good box to box player with real ability.

18 Aug 2020 20:24:44
Doiger he isn’t good enough.

18 Aug 2020 12:30:43
Don't like this, one lousy draw and everybody and their dug on here wants SG head taking half backroom staff with him. Christ Almighty!

18 Aug 2020 12:57:08
Welcome to the fish bowl 😂😂.

18 Aug 2020 13:32:00
1 lousey draw aye ok was the same last year when we drew or lost “aw it’s a draw it we just got beat, he will come good”
It’s the exact same as last year and exact some comments when he’s getting interviewed after a game.

18 Aug 2020 13:42:30
Deemc22 So you're suggesting gerrard has to win every game or its a failure by your standards?

18 Aug 2020 13:56:56
He has to win enough games to at least challenge for the title barrowlad, which he hasn't, not even close to winning enough games. 👍.

18 Aug 2020 14:04:20
Barrow lad

We need to win more games than anyone else to win the league
Do you agree?

There fore already dropping points 4 games in is not good enough

Why isn’t it good enough?

Because Celtic time and time again have shown when they need to they win games and that’s why come lockdown we were so many points behind

Why were we so many points to behind because of stupid results like Sunday there?

We as team under Gerrard time and time again have shown we have no bottle and we have not got a tactically gifted manger that should already know how these teams set up by now to would think, right?

Hey he keeps getting it wrong
Or HIS players let him down

I mean how long does it continue?

oh give him the rest of the season and Celtic winning 10
Then we can look at changing as he will prob walk at the end of the season after spending millions and win nothing anyway

It’s not good enough

Why why why why is that good enough for you and the rest that still supporting the same old 💩 Now in his 3rd season

Why is that - we wouldn’t accept it from Graham murty
Mccoist certainly wouldn’t have gotten away with or warburton
Why steven Gerrard?

I’ll tell you why the name Steven Gerrard that’s why

Truth hurts lads but end of the day it’s still the truth.

18 Aug 2020 14:06:26
Just what I said Coldo haha great minds mate great minds 😁.

18 Aug 2020 14:16:00
Lads I'm on about now this season!

18 Aug 2020 14:19:12
OK the stig,
Il ask mate, say we change it, gimme a few names to replace him with?
Who will want to buy his own players and settle them in, then who knows IT mate or may not work. However if we don't win the league with this new guy in charge, he either walks or is sacked at the end of the season for failing. then what? a new man in, a new team in, another rebuild?
Your ideas at not plausable one little bitmate.
Not to mention the pay offs of Gerrard and his backroom staff etc.
But hey what don't I know that you clearly do mate.

18 Aug 2020 14:26:47
No that's your opinion theinstigno1 (which your perfectly entitled to) but that doesn't mean it's the truth. 😉
There's plenty who don't agree with you and eternal optimist coldo! 😁
There's plenty of things to look forward to this season and plenty of us who are not willing to give up on the season ( especially after 4games)

18 Aug 2020 14:34:03
KRi55

We need experience - so we should lead with experience

You say if a new guy came in and didn’t win league, why would he be sacked?

Gerrard in his 3rd season not won anything and not sacked

So why would a new guy sacked at end of this season for nkt winning
Because it’s not Gerrard?

And to answer your question I have no idea who could come in
That would be down to our board to make the decision

But the. (what’s the word I’m looking for)


Experiment of Gerrard


Basically they have taken Gerrard on big name but no real experience managing a big club where every game is analysed and pressure to win every game
Especially win 99.9 of the games to take the title from your fiercest rivals

Gerrard and his team to date have failed to do it

We do need a change mate not being bad

It’s the same thing now going on in to the 3rd season and same lame excuses

Oh I’m fed up with it to be honest

Possibly experience manager changed it up gets more out of players

Look at Rodgers when he took over Celtic It was a winning side but the players were not playing great for Ronnie

He came in big turnaround in the same players

We need someone to come in with that same impact

Don’t you think? They might just get that extra we’re lacking at the minute and last season.

18 Aug 2020 14:37:27
The main issue for me is playing with seven defensively minded players against a team that were always going to play for a nil, nil draw and that was blatantly obvious the second that Dykes wasn't playing. We didn't need to play both Kamara and Jack and for me the sooner we cash in on Kamara the better. With Aribo injured it is also worrying that the best that we could put in the team was Arfield who is slow and more defensively minded than other options and he is no where near the player he was. A faster more attack minded person would have latched on to one of the through balls that he failed to connect with. We had the ideal opportunity on Sunday to have played our two new boys alongside Morelos and Kent and gone with two in midfield which for me would have been Hagi in a 4- 2- 4 formation. We still don't have still failed to bring in a quality winger and a quality box to box midfield player despite all our transfer business and our squad is still inadequate if we expect to win the league and have a run in Europe.

18 Aug 2020 14:56:44
Fair points stig. In all fairness with any manager we appoint nothing is ever assured. We could go n get a top top man n he could fail.

Pep was brought to man city to win the CL and he's failed in his man quest so its not always cut n dry.

18 Aug 2020 15:16:16
Has had his head turned.

18 Aug 2020 11:34:36
Two up top is the way to go, I saw a few posts below with 352 and its grown on me.

McLaughlin
Goldson helander balogun
Kent arfield kamara aribo barasic
Morelos itten.

I don't think we need two holding mids there kamara gets the nod before jack as he is much tidier on the ball.

Arfield aribo getting forward

I have gave morelos a chance in there as I would like to see him playing off a target man, I think he would thrive. I know his form hasn't been great.

No room for tav and hagi for obvious reasons. Barasic for captain🤔.

I have to admit aribo has been playing well recently so gets a start in there.

Just a thought👍.

18 Aug 2020 11:44:34
Jack far more reliable than jack 👍.

18 Aug 2020 11:45:19
jack more reliable than kamara that should say ☝️.

18 Aug 2020 13:17:36
Jack has to play. End of.

18 Aug 2020 14:43:24
Replace Kamara and Arfield with two quicker, more attack minded players and a bit of dig and I would agree with you Cold but for me, in games in the SPFL, Kamara is a luxury that we cannot afford and Arfield is too slow for that attacking role. As proved on Sunday, when Aribo was not in the team we had no one that might do the unexpected. I'd rather see us move Kent inside and play Jones out wide than have Arfield anywhere near the team.

18 Aug 2020 15:23:25
The one thing that annoys me about gerrard is nothing changes until 60 minutes.
I have seen him have Rangers play some fantastic football. But in cames where teams park the bus doesn't know what to do.
If it doesn't really work change after 30 mins or at half time.

18 Aug 2020 01:21:53
SGL, I've just noticed a post you made for me yesterday. In reply, I think those calling for Gerrard's head right now are, frankly, idiots. However, it is getting frustrating that he seems to have caught the Warburton 'Plan A' bug, but I hope he has the savvy to turn this round. To do so he has to be ruthless and set himself to drop Morelos, Hagi and maybe others. This is nothing to do with values or big names, but the very integrity of our team.
You know, one way or the other I think this season might be his last, winning the league or not. One disheartening thing I have heard is that some of his background staff are not popular with the players and he relies heavily on one of them, Mick Beale. As for a new boss, I'll wait until a lot nearer the time to think about that. Hopefully the board already has plans in place. And it won't be that crackpot halfwit Billy Davies 😂.

18 Aug 2020 06:27:12
I haven't heard about some of gerrard's backroom staff being unpopular with our players, but i have heard that all our players rate and think the world of first team coach michael beale 👌! I wonder who the unpopular backroom staff are the covenanter 🤔🤔. Michael Beale is a very highly regarded coach and you wonder in future years when gerrard does eventually leave us, that he might have a chance of becoming rangers head coach, as opposed to being named manager, to work with ross wilson going forward 🤔 What's your thoughts on this the covenanter and any other gers supporters for that matter? 🤔.

18 Aug 2020 07:33:18
I wonder why the back ground staff are unpopular?


Honestly they get paid a lot of money to kick a ball about and be idols to kids growing up etc

They should get on with it

We all have to work and I bet many of us have l/ had some issue with certain things in the workplace
But we get up in the morning and get on with it for nowhere near the pay these guys get

Moaning bxxxxxxxs 😀😀

A good swift kick up the behind is what’s really needed.

18 Aug 2020 07:48:22
Coops. The background staff are fine and after a bad result some will always seek to stir disquiet. On subject of Beale he did underestimated our league and Tav was echoing his words last season when uttering nonsense about us being more equipped for Europe and struggling against sides in scotland that get in your face. Hopefully he (and Tav) learned a lesson then. No way Beale is a future Rangers manager.

18 Aug 2020 09:09:06
I think if and when Gerrard leaves he will take mick Beale with him.

18 Aug 2020 09:28:45
Whether there is any substance to the Coaches talk, why, is this forum drifting towards a cesspit of negativity because we drew a game. C'mon guys, let's all keep our powder dry, and get behind everyone at Rangers. The Tims will take leverage from all this negativity, just my opinion guys, BTW, I wasn't happy at all with Sundays display, but we have played very well in other matches, let's give it time folks.

18 Aug 2020 09:36:03
Good post irvger, let’s all get behind SG, his staff and team.

18 Aug 2020 11:05:13
Cov how can you call people idiots for wanting rid of gerrard and then say you hope he has the savvy to turn it around. He has been making the same mistakes for 3 years and has shown no sign of any savvy to stop making the same mistakes? 👍.

18 Aug 2020 11:09:52
Also cov pretty sure you were one of the one's having a go at people for wanting morelos dropped two weeks ago🤔. Apologies if it wasn't you and I have made a mistake but🤔👍.

18 Aug 2020 12:55:33
It certainly wasn't me as others will tell you, I'm sure. I advocated him staying in the team because he was the best striker we had.

18 Aug 2020 13:08:53
SGL, I believe not all the players think the world of Beale, but what I said was that Gerrard relies heavily on him. I also don't think he will ever be Rangers manager or head coach for various reasons outwith his coaching knowledge. Coldo, surely even you can differentiate between wanting him sacked immediately and hoping that he has the savvy to turn this round? No? Oh well.
This year is really the first year where he has been fully equipped with all the tools (new strikers, players he can call his own etc) and this will be his defining year, so I hope he has the savvy to sort out the issues facing the team. As for Morelos, he has been given the opportunity to turn his form round in the past few games and hasn't done it, so I suggest that maybe a spell as an impact sub will do him good.

18 Aug 2020 13:59:24
I hope does have the savvy cov but he has done nothing to suggest yet that he does have the savvy👍.