Rangers Banter Archive April 18 2018

18 Apr 2018 22:57:53
Appointing GM until the end of the season was, in my opinion, the correct decision at the time. It's not been the miracle solution we had all hoped but more importantly the board have SURELY used this time to pinpoint and sound out, not only their ideal candidate but options B and C as well!
Christ, I hope so, because there's only so much more of this car crash I can stomach.

19 Apr 2018 11:39:11
I wish I had your faith.

18 Apr 2018 20:39:48
No to the following managers
Del bottler
Steve clark
Warnock
Gio
Laudrup
Arteta

We need a proven manager that has won titles or cups every place he has managed and needs to be a good man manager too as they will need to bring that winning mentality to a bunch of players who don't have it snd he will know who he can and can't work with do he can then sort out the deadwood and clear it out

18 Apr 2018 20:57:58
So who do you think Knowger as you seem to have written a right few off!

18 Apr 2018 20:58:34
And who might that be?

18 Apr 2018 21:18:38
There's not really much point saying we need a guy who can do this and that, if you can't actually name one that fits your criteria, that's realistic/ we can afford.

18 Apr 2018 22:07:29
I don't know yately all i know is we have had too much talkers and we know meed some one who had the walk to go with the talk and the presence to cope with being the manager of our great club and the names getting branded about just don't cut it they might have some of the attributes but not them all so enough of the mediocre let's go big and take back our city and our tittle after all we are rangers the worlds most sucesful club let's show them why

18 Apr 2018 22:24:20
Sorry i never gave a name big marv but am i not allowed an opinon or just say what we should be looking for and expect in a new manager too.

18 Apr 2018 22:49:06
Knowger, u sound like a genius. Del Bottler? Classic. Looks to me that what ever it was that he didn't like has proved to be correct. U would need to be half daft or desperate to take the Rangers job at this time. Who do u want. Zinedine Zidane ?

18 Apr 2018 23:08:55
Does anyone really think we can attract some of the calibre that knowger wants? Whoever is our next Manager is bound to have had a few failures on his managerial CV

18 Apr 2018 23:35:51
Knowger guardiolas contract is up next year maybe he fits the bill

19 Apr 2018 01:13:46
IMO we have to attempt to bring Clarke in at least.

Makes his team hard to beat and gets in the oppositions faces. 60% win ratio with Kilmarnock, only 3 losses, done something that 3 bosses could not achieve in the league = beat Celtic (with Kilmarnock let’s all remember) .

The guy has taken a team that almost certainly looked like relegation fodder to within 7 points of 2nd and going by form they look more likely to get 2nd than we do. It’s nothing short of a minor miracle what he has done with that team.

Sick of hearing some of our fans say he’s ‘not good enough for us’. The fact is most of us are actually questioning if the Killie manager will turn ya down or not, reality check bears.

He reminds me of Smith, who ain’t coming back. We need Rangers to be hard to beat again and tough on the park, that’s what Rangers success was built on, we need it back.

19 Apr 2018 07:36:18
Funny one rtid all i am saying is that must of the names being branded about we can do better and that there is a big difference to managing a club that you are not expected to win every game to managing rangers when you are yes my expectations are high but this next manager needs to be the right one we are all never going to agree on the same person on here so who ever we get will be given the support from the fans

19 Apr 2018 12:35:12
Totally agree Bearmode, he's the closest we're going to get to Walter

18 Apr 2018 17:21:19
So I think we’d all agree everything is a bit of a mess again right now (to put it mildly) No one truly knows what’s actually been going on behind the scenes and there’s been so much conjecture and guessing from both us fans to media (and I use that term loosely) pundits over the last few days without any actual facts or real information.
All I would say is that watching the level of performance in general on Sunday and the tantrums being thrown left right and centre would suggest there was something really wrong behind the scenes already going into the games, the player’s AND management team all just seemed preoccupied.
Which brings me to my main point. Everyone is debating what the right move was or who was right or wrong in the miller/ Wallace and Murty situation. However really we should take individuals out of this and rephrase that to ‘two players against their manager and then look again at the situation.
We would hope by now the board are in the process of maybe behind the scenes sounding out or contacting and beginning discussions with whoever our new manager will be. And if who ever that is has any sense they in turn will be trying to find out as much as they can about the true current state about the club behind the scenes before deciding whether to take the job.
Now imagine what they would think if they heard there was a major player revolt where senior players openly challenged the person in charge in front of the rest of the squad and after doing so the board either a) did nothing or b) even worse, backed the players over the current manager. They’d run an absolute mile and not touch the managers job realising that the players have far too much power and the manager wouldn’t receive proper backing from his employers.
Therefore the board were left with no choice at all other than to do what they’ve done. Now I’m in no way saying that this board are fantastic and have got everything they’ve ever done correct, I think we all know that’s not the case. However in this situation, however unfortunate it is, they really were left with little choice. So all these idiots in the press selling papers by yet again sticking the boot in and jumping to the defence of the players (without even knowing what actually happened or what was said) really are just a bunch of idiots.

18 Apr 2018 17:55:55
Are you not sticking up for the board without knowing what happened? The board have done something or Mr traynor has done something after every Celtic defeat and it takes all the pressure off the board. Wake up guys.

18 Apr 2018 18:07:23
Please re-read my post. No I am not sticking up for the board at all, in fact it was their decision to put Murty in charge on a temporary basis in the first place that has ultimately led to all of this, (Think of when you were at school and a supply teacher came in, all the kids acted up as they knew that teacher wouldn’t be there long term) I clearly said that we all know the board have got things wrong. What I am pointing out is that if we actually want a new, decent, respectable manager to come in next season the board can’t be seen to not back the current manager, or worse, back players over a manager.

18 Apr 2018 18:29:50
None of us know what was said and in what manner. BUT Murty said things were raw in the changing room and god almighty so it should have been. I was hurting. Were you. So if players have overstepped the mark when they were hurting and let rip. Then its not a sacking offence. This is murtu and the board on a course of major smokescreen to degclect an absoute shocker on the pitch

18 Apr 2018 19:13:29
I’m sorry but I just can’t see how the suspension of two senior players and the creation of even more negative headlines and even more overall bad feelings for the fans is creating a ‘smokescreen’? This seems to be something the papers are suggesting and people are buying into it. Tell me, did anyone wake up to the story about Wallace and miller and suddenly forget all about the fact we’d just been turned over again and made to look stupid OR like me, did you think ‘oh no, not something else, not more trouble behind the scenes after also being thumped by Celtic, not sure I can take much more of this’.
So please explain this term ‘smokescreen’ and how this news has ‘covered up’ the terrible result?
Also do you think they’d take this sort of action from a legal point of view simply to deflect attention?
None of that makes any sense.

18 Apr 2018 20:26:12
SPOT ON IT WOULD TAKE MORE THAN THIS TO MAKE ME FORGET OR BE DEFLECTED FROM THAT PERFORMANCE

18 Apr 2018 20:35:32
It's nonsense to suggest it's anything other than the board doing what they can to set an example, the players in question were out of order whether I agree with them or not they as senior players should no their actions only upset squad when we need everyone pulling in same direction! No player is bigger than the club! Imo it's time up for Murty Miller and Wallace and we move on

18 Apr 2018 22:56:23
Smokescreen. . its quite simple. The papers and these forums are full of discussions about Miller and Wallace instead of focusing on the board and their inability to get Derek McInnes. They waited 6 weeks to approach him. irrelevant whether u wanted him or not, who waits 6 weeks. and then appoint a youth team manager to manage Glasgow Rangers football club. JeZ oh. its no that difficult!

19 Apr 2018 00:33:34
We've always been guilty of this but I don't like this total lack of transparency. We know nothing regarding funding, players in/ out, any long/ short term plans, managerial position and this just for starts. It's worse now than when we were controlled by Marlborough.

18 Apr 2018 16:21:53
with regards to our director of football do fans think he has done a good job so far
I no king think he has done prob cause he saved him forking out money for transfers
But is this model going work in the long run.

Or would it be more benificial to put this salary towards a good manager and allowing them to implement there own scouting network to buy players and bring there own coaches with them aswell if they are better than what we have.

18 Apr 2018 16:36:11
The DOF is the only football brain on the board. HE MUST BE GIVEN TIME!

18 Apr 2018 19:03:14
LDM is right DoF must stay. Those who say put his wage towards managers. How much will it cost to pay off mark Allen.
Use wage from alves or Pena towards manager wage.

18 Apr 2018 19:22:53
Any decent manager worth his salt wouldn’t work under a DOF especially at us, it just wouldn’t work in my opinion

18 Apr 2018 12:58:34
Players who could be good for us to challenge for the league again lafferty would add height and experience in attack and knows what it means to play for rangers mcgregor would be available for free in the summer great experienced keeper who could help youngers keepers learn aswel and be a top goalie for us ad fod is hot and cold in games and a know they left but they did what was best for there careers at the time plus the big defender kipre for motherwell would add some physicality to our defence which we severly lack at times and mulumbu in the middle would add a bit of steel to out midfield and let guys like dorrans and docherty get farward more him and jack would be a good pairing protecting our defence plus the striker from motherwell the boy worked his socks off against aberdeen and gave us lots of problems when we played them he just looks like someone who is proud to be a footballer and will work non stop everymatch no matter who he's playing against just my opinion guys what yous think

18 Apr 2018 14:35:34
Yeah let’s bring back washed up deserters back to the club that would be a step in the right direction

18 Apr 2018 14:44:46
We need to show ambition instead of talking about has beens and washout. We are a joke of a club at the moment and going for aging players and one season wonders is not going to make any difference

18 Apr 2018 16:02:03
Lafferty hahaha! Please tell me you are kidding, He was useless in the air even when he played for us

18 Apr 2018 16:02:46
Washed up deserters we need to get over that how many people would stay at there work doing the same job for less money in worse conditions or do that same job for more money no brainer to me not all people who play for rangers are fans like us its a job to some guys at the end of the day a did mention a couple of other non ex players aswel robbie and arthur who do yous recommend we sign then to make out squad better

18 Apr 2018 16:44:01
lafferty no thanks but would definitely take mcgregor back wes leaks goals like a siv and is hopless coming for crosses but would really like to see mulumbu

18 Apr 2018 17:55:24
Sm99

You clearly don’t understand what happens when you transfer your contract across. No one expected these players to stay but by signing over we would have got a transfer fee. Instead these players left and the club got nothing. It’s really that simple and I don’t know what you fail to understand this. All the talk about getting less money is just rubbish

19 Apr 2018 02:56:43
Arthur don't think u understand how much of that money would have went to the club with the people in charge at that time so don't kid yourself think the players knew what was happening and we couldn't have afforded the big wages these guys were on if they transfered there contract over

18 Apr 2018 10:54:10
Interesting piece by Hartson in the Herald that by the board siding with Murty and suspending players, it is likely that he will be in charge next season.

18 Apr 2018 11:38:48
John Hartson is a complete idiot, its a very rare occasion he gets anything right. Miller was OOC and it was rumoured before Sunday that Wallace would be released in the summer.

18 Apr 2018 12:23:35
It doesn't mean that at all. The managing director and the board have to back the manager as in doing so they're defending the integrity of the club. As interim manager, Murty calls the shots and not any single player and that's the way all businesses are run.

18 Apr 2018 10:40:10
my view on new managers who have been talked about

FDB - would be risky. if the team in general had potential then this would be a good appointment but dutch managers in general are not good when heads are down. however he is a name and could bring a higher calibre of player.

Alex neil - could be good as well done well with limited resources and knowledge of scottish game

Clarke - has only done well with killie over a short time but could but has done nothing else

Pardew - for me is a waste of time wants a high wage and in all honesty is nothing

Potter and Reid - for me have worked wonders at a team over a longer period. could be a good shout.

Rannerri - for me should be stand out appointment. lots of experience all over the world and knows the British game and a big name. would it be bad to think a rannerri amaruso and ferguson to work as a 3.

Arteta - apparently allens choice. For me high risk but with working as number 2 at man city we may be able to get good loan signings and he may be able to get players playing properly. not the rubbish scottish way. but quality players needed.

my personal view is the board should do everything to get Rannerri from Nantes.

18 Apr 2018 11:40:44
Ranieiri at Rangers on our budget PMSL HAHAHAHAHAHA

18 Apr 2018 11:40:05
Ranneri is hopeless, better with nigel pearson it was his team that win the league anyway.

18 Apr 2018 12:01:03
you are correct it was pearsons team but did he win it. no. same can be said at celtic. the majority of celtic team is dila team not rodgers. he added 1 or 2 players. better off spending 1.5m on a good manager than getting total rubbish.

18 Apr 2018 14:28:10
Jamie5100 I agree on most of your OP but Clarke got WBA an 8th place finish in his only full season in the EPL beating Rodgers's Liverpool home and away in the process (more than what A Neill did with similar resources at Norwich) . Plus he won everything down there as Mourinho's no.2 at Chelsea. So it's unfair to say all he's done is a few months at Killie. Also while Ranieri is highly unlikely it's worth noting that at Leicester he took over a well drilled team that had went on an excellent unbeaten run to stay up the previous season. Most of your suggestions are high risk, and you shouldn't even have mentioned Pardew.

18 Apr 2018 15:07:19
I’m with you BigMarv, when I look at all the runners on my betting app it is Steve Clarke who I would choose, it’s very difficult though so the board have a job on there hands firstly to find the right man and then convince him to sign. When McInnes was favourite for the job I was 100% against it and Steve Clarke represents many of the same reservations I had about DM but I think what he has shown with the squad he inherited he is a good manager and gets the best out of what he has, something that we need right now. He is only 7 points behind us just now and if he had been appointed in the summer then they may be 2nd at the moment.

18 Apr 2018 16:38:22
Huge difference between where we are and where Acektuc were before Rodgers, your comparing Apples and Oranges. Ranneri is clueless hence why he was sacked, also strong rumours relating to the players following Shakespeare rather than Ranneri! It’s good that names are being discussed as everybody will get to read a number of views but I don’t see any benefit to Rangers appointing Ranneri.

18 Apr 2018 09:37:22
So Murty is getting blamed for this and that. If a player can't get himself motivated and hyped up for a semi final against his biggest rivals he shouldn't be anywhere near ibrox. Everyone having a pop at Murty tactics and he should have played this way or that way or players him instead of him. who uld it have matters as the player who were on the pitch didn't up for it and for me that'd a disgrace. I

18 Apr 2018 10:10:17
a Blind man could see the set up was wrong

18 Apr 2018 10:40:42
His formation and inclusion of Halliday was absolutely madness

18 Apr 2018 11:32:28
Sunday team for me. Sick of this one up front. Teams have sussed us out already. A lot of flack for Morelos, aye he’s missed sitters. 1 player surrounded by usually 2 or 3 defenders, min service, long ball punted to him to try and hold up. He needs help up front. This team shape can be adjusted to 442, 4132, 4312, 4231 easily. I can never see Graham Murty changing the shape much,

Fods always been unsure of, his distribution is poor at times. Goal kick 7-10 he kicks it out. Slows up play when we have chances to break quickly
Something needs to change.

Alnwick
Tav Mcrorie Alves john

Goss
Docherty Murphy

Dorrans

Morelos Cummings

18 Apr 2018 08:04:48
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18 Apr 2018 06:19:08
Go out and get Kip.