Rangers Banter Archive March 17 2018

17 Mar 2018 22:41:59
Your flat statement regarding The Cup is blatantly wrong. We were crap today but this is still a team of individuals who have played together a matter of months. Although I'm not a big fan of Murty as full time manager what he has done is put the rudiments of a good team on the park. Perhaps filling in few positions next season we could really compete. But Tic are not unbeatable as we showed and they are all between us and Cup victory.

17 Mar 2018 23:17:39
The tic aren’t unbeatable as we showed? How do you work that out? I thought they beat us last week so please explain that statement.

17 Mar 2018 23:20:01
Dont mean to be negative but when did we show they are beatable? Hearts and Kilmarnock have but we certainly haven't.

17 Mar 2018 19:58:04
What a difference a week makes. Last week we were looking to close the gap to 3 points now they are 9 ahead with 2 in hand, and the sheep are 2 behind with 1 in hand. The beauty of the game can be very frustrating at times. Let's concentrate on the cup and finishing 2nd then see where we go from there.

17 Mar 2018 20:50:08
That team will not win the cup not good enough

17 Mar 2018 21:06:02
AurthurD, for goodness sake can’t you be a bit more positive. There is no doubting the odds will be against us when we face Celtic in the semis. To say though we have no chance of winning the cup goes beyond being any reasonable definition of negativity, and with the match a month away displays no knowledge on introspection, team bonding and preparation. The beauty of football is that is the beauty of the upset.

17 Mar 2018 21:06:43
We all get to far to carried away at the end of the day this side is not good enough yet a few wins in a row and all the talk of we are back and all are players are outstanding like goss and bates exc when in reality if we want to win titles and cups and get into Europe again there nowhere near good enough the worrying thing is if some people had there way we would be handing out new 5year deals for the likes af bates and even Wilson and signing goss and martin on permanent deals we need to realise we need a higher caliber of player.

17 Mar 2018 21:25:10
Agree the quality of player is simply not good enough, the board and DOF need to address this a. s. a. p. cause 50,000 fans won, t accept this dross much longer.

17 Mar 2018 21:30:41
No point being positive if it's not t realistic. How can you possibly say we can win the cup? That's was dreadful today. Truly shocking. Certain players actually hiding in the 2nd half

17 Mar 2018 21:37:25
Deanobear very tube who would/ should we keep? I would punt: alves, holt, Herrera, o halloran, Morelos given wiki g buyers. I like Martin but we still concede goals with him in the team and goss has hid for 2 games now and Murphy for the second half today. Cummings is brutal. His control is shocking and he can't hold the ball up. I don't know where we go from here. Hopefully McCrorie for Goss and Dorrans for a n other. Windass is a passenger

17 Mar 2018 21:45:42
Mistake to start with Cummings today and surprised Murty caved to pressure from many fans to play him at expense of Morelas. Murty outsmarted tactically today by a very experienced tactician with a thorough and rehearsed game plan. We had all week to prepare for today’s game and really no excuses.

17 Mar 2018 22:18:01
biggest mistake trying to play cummins one up, can't hold it up meaning windass had nothing to run onto. to punish moelos and pkaying goss who imo was more guilty is unreal. ven halliday would have been better today and i ain't keen on him.

17 Mar 2018 22:18:12
Cummings is not good enough for Rangers he can't play to our system of one up top and to play as a pair with Morelos leaves us short in midfield I just can't see what all the excitement of Cummings is I'd send him back at end of the season, we had no width today and only Docherty and Tav showed any commitment, as for Murty I read people saying he talks great in front of the cameras I could listen to him all day, well for me I couldn't care less if he couldn't string two words together it points we need, look at Killie they pushed the boat out and got an experienced manager in we have an inexperienced manager and results show it

17 Mar 2018 23:19:26
Bankie

I am giving an honest opinion as I see it not being negative just be realistic. We had our chance last Sunday and blew it.

18 Mar 2018 00:52:42
End of season in the ideal world we would get rid of hodson Martin cardoso haliday holt goss kranjcar ohalleren dodoo Cummings miller and anwick i'd keep fod tav Alves John Wallace so will need a new keeper and have fod as number 2 then 3 new centre backs and a new right back as competition for tav then midfield I'd keep mcorie docherty dorrens then think we should sign a strong controlling defenceive midfielder and another goal scoring attacking midfielder to complete with windass then in the wide possessions I'd sign Murphy permanently but bring in one left sided one right side to push Murphy and candidas then up top if moralos stays then I'd like to see two other new strikers one to really push him then maybe another as a back up for the 2 of then. So I'd say 12 players out the last of the duds then 11 in of higher quality to match and really push are better players the likes of tav candidas moralos exc.

18 Mar 2018 08:42:38
I’d look to get rid of Foderingham at best average keeper who concedes soft goals. Our bench was a complete waste of jerseys yesterday with only Morelos possibly capable of doing anything. Miller is done and was awful when he came on and I don’t even know why Herrera is on the bench as he offers less than Miller

19 Mar 2018 13:24:40
It proves Marco C that a week is a long time in football. We played so badly it was scary, Alves made Bates look like an international class defender. Tav apart we struggled all over the park, I'm away to lie down in a darkened room.

19 Mar 2018 13:25:18
the joys of being a bear lads but let's face it if we can win the cup and finish second every one of us would have taken it at the beginning of the season if we were given the option let's not start loading the gun for murty yet judge at the end of the season

17 Mar 2018 18:56:05
Another very disapointing day for us . i'm not saying for 1 minute sack murty but surely the board and allen between them must have some sort of plan for next season . that's us lost the same amount of games as last season already with plentu of hard games to come . people have said there's been progress but where . don't know where we go from here but hope the board do.

17 Mar 2018 19:21:37
Murty needs to have a pre season and summer to recruit based on his performance so far. The progress was there for all to see last weekend, we were competitive against Celtic where under Warburton and Pedro we weren't. The Jan signings have been good, particularly Murphy and Docherty whereas our summer signings are back in Mexico or warming the bench week after week at best. Kilmarnock have been excellent under Clarke and are undefeated against us and Celtic under him, played 5, won 3 and drawn 2. We should be beating Killie at home but it's perfectly natural for there to be a hangover from last weekend considering the hype beforehand and the fact we led twice to go on and lose. Murty has to take responsibility but so do they players he puts out. The man is working with a contract until the end of the season, in hindsight the board should have gave him a 18 month deal to give both him and the players some stability knowing they'd have a go next season. Now we've got some fans calling for him to go after losing two games by a one goal margin against the current champions and form team in the league. For me, Murty must be the man for next season and hopefully beyond. Progress has been made, it's a case of expectations being elevated by us fans too soon. When Pedro left us in a state less than 6 months ago I'd have been delighted with where we are today.

17 Mar 2018 19:48:34
Very well said. We have improved vastly, but are still needing reinforcement in certain areas. Don't have the options on the bench we need, although we do have 6 players injured. Still work in progress and we need to ride these setbacks and push on to grab 2nd, and hopefully a cup final too. C'mon the Gers!

17 Mar 2018 19:57:22
Murty is a good coach but I feel for our
club we need a more experienced first
team manager if we give Murty a chance
for next season and results don’t go well
we will be hounding him out so go with
an experienced manager and let Murty
continue his development as under 21
coach and gain more experience to
become a first team manager

17 Mar 2018 22:06:35
Regardless of who we have in, if things don't go well they will be hounded.

17 Mar 2018 22:08:17
We would have been happy losing to Kilmarnock? Are u mental? Half the progress is via loan players! Big question mark over 2nd place

18 Mar 2018 01:16:21
Twisting what I said there pal. Not happy losing to Kilmarnock but from where we were under Pedro to where we are now I'd say the majority of fans are happy.

18 Mar 2018 08:44:34
Murty is not the answer and progress hasn’t really been made the team are weak especially at home. That was a disgrace yesterday players were hiding and didn’t try

18 Mar 2018 09:35:05
It's obvious to me that our central positions are our weakness.

Goss has a nice left foot, but lacks any dig. Windass a luxury that we can't always afford, continually goes missing. This leaves Docherty who has a bit of everything.

These players have their strengths, but through new signings or return of injuries, we need alternatives.

We're strong down both wings now, but against any decent, organised teams, tic, hibs, killy, we lose the midfield battles and therefore struggle to build.

Jack, dorrans, mcrorie give the manager options to change that.

Central defence needs fresh blood full stop.

19 Mar 2018 13:22:02
So why wouldn’t we go for Steve Clarke?

19 Mar 2018 13:23:01
if Aberdeen win their game in hand we are exactly where we were six months ago- third. With Hibs breathing down our necks

17 Mar 2018 17:53:29
Okay, words fail etc etc on this type of performance but looking at the scenario of Murty not being in the role next season who would be the best option?

17 Mar 2018 17:58:09
Steve clark

17 Mar 2018 18:09:07
Clarke shows what can be achieved with a good manager.

17 Mar 2018 18:19:36
ffs last week Murty was the man 6 days later sack him what next boyd scores let's buy him once they cross the line the manager can't do much more why show fight against Aberdeen then nothing players are hiding at times

17 Mar 2018 18:29:23
Big blue bear

Not everyone on here thought Murty was the man as you put it and it’s not about sacking him. He was only given job until end of the season. At the end of the season he should go back to his role as u20 coach.

17 Mar 2018 19:16:08
ArthurD, you and me have had disagreements on the subject of graeme murty becoming our manager or not, beyond this season! I for one, said he should get the job beyond this season on a 12 month rolling contract! I still think this and he made the correct substitutions today, but some of they rangers players against kilmarnock today, have to hold their hands up, for that very poor, flat performance today! Some of these players just can't perform at ibrox with the expectation of our home supporters! The glasgow rangers jersey is far too big for them! that's an astonishing 7 times we've lost at ibrox this season, that ain't acceptable! Some of our players hide at ibrox especially against teams we're EXPECTED to beat!

17 Mar 2018 19:39:29
Yes we have supercooper and I still don’t think he is the man to take us forward however I couldn’t agree more about your assessment of some of the players. The performances of some today were beyond disgraceful and no player should be as inept as some of ours were today. The jersey is clearly too heavy for some and too many were hiding

17 Mar 2018 20:01:03
I will upset many with this, but here it is. I believe a huge factor in our Ibrox record is the negativity of the supporters. They put huge pressure on the players when it is not going to plan but are excellent when we are doing well. If we could channel the positivity when we are struggling maybe we could lift the players and contribute to a change of fortune. Head above parapet, shoot if you will!

17 Mar 2018 20:19:49
Clarke puts 10 men behind ball and hopes for a set piece or breackaway to get a result. that's why their crowds are poor.

17 Mar 2018 20:33:05
ArthurD, if you don't mind me asking, who would you want as the next permanent rangers manager?

17 Mar 2018 20:47:16
We can't keep sacking managers. i'm not happy to lose games like today but I can see an improvement since Graeme Murty has taken over. So say we sack Murty and get new manager and he loses a couple of games early on what then? Do we sack him as well? The players should stand up and be counted some of they guys are getting away with murder.

17 Mar 2018 20:52:16
Stevie Clark

17 Mar 2018 23:22:54
Jaws

It’s not about sacking Murty. He has the job to the end of the season then should go back to the u20 side.

19 Mar 2018 13:21:29
Your right coop some players haven't been performing but isn't it the managements job to address this? Murty seems like a nice enough bloke, says the right things but if he can't motivate players surely the buck stops with him? Clarke at Kilmarnock shows what can be achieved

19 Mar 2018 13:26:50
we wouldn't be sacking him Jaws mate. His contract will expire

17 Mar 2018 17:40:22
Evening fellow fans, once again i find myself unable to not post my thoughts on how our club is just now. As i see it we are taking 3 or 4 steps forward followed by 2 steps back, not good enough for RFC.
Once again we have lost at home and I believe we now have to start putting a plan together to go forward, I will put forward my preferred option on how we get going.
RFC need to appoint Mr S. Clarke ASAP, some have said to me, "he won't come to us" "is he not a `tic fan" etc. I don't care, make the approach and see where it goes. Take a leaf out Lawwell`s book and tap his agent up (like he did with Allen) on the likelihood he would sign or not before making it public.
If our decision makers are not on to this after today then am sorry they are totally incompetent.
Clarke has proven he can set up a team of journeymen against everyone and beat them. He has proved he can go "toe to toe" with BR and more than match him, he was not fazed and backed his team which is exactly what we need.
Mr Murty, our Club is very much richer for having you in its employ but you are not ready for the office at the top of the marble staircase, just yet. Thank you but please go back to take care of our future stars and when the job comes back up maybe it will be your time.

17 Mar 2018 17:29:22
What is with our home form this year. we have been much better away. The simple facts are, if we finish second and we win the semi and then the cup murty, will stay. If we do neither- he will absolutely go. if we do one of the 2, then a decision needs to be made. but if we don't finish second and don't win the cup i think its time changes were made at the top. not just the management. and playing staff, for one bad decision after another. I think most people with any credance would say that appointing an under 20 coach to a top management position at a crucial time of rebuilding at a big club is suicidal. Enough people want to do harm to the club without us repeatedly making bad decisions and cutting our own throats

17 Mar 2018 17:23:51
Surely Rangers need to offer Steve Clarke the manager job in the summer. If the season started when he took over kilmarnock would be clear in 2nd place 3 points behind celtic.

17 Mar 2018 17:05:34
Can anybody honestly say they are surprised?

17 Mar 2018 17:09:38
no not at all and heres a surprise. murty vs clarke records

Steve Clarke - In charge of Kilmarnock for 22 games, earned 43pts, and have a good of +10

Graham Murty - In charge of Rangers for 21 games, earned 40pts, and have a good of +16

yet many claim murty is the messiah

17 Mar 2018 17:20:12
No was 50/ 50 two poor teams playing against each other

Only positive is the board SHOULD be now searching for a qualified Rangers manager .

17 Mar 2018 17:23:37
welcome to reality! . probs still to deluded though perhaps killie just got lucky ask Bazza. Murty must stay!

17 Mar 2018 17:25:18
Im not. I put money on a killie Aberdeen double stuck a fiver on it. £76 I can drown my sorrows. Rangerd need a proper manager. Found out twice in as many weeks by better managers.

17 Mar 2018 17:03:00
UJ and Seeker how is your title challenge getting on.

17 Mar 2018 17:25:51
Obsessed.

17 Mar 2018 22:04:19
maybe that is wrong with us we want rangers men but as a andfootball club we realy need people who understand football. and get some people who play the game with their head and not how they where brought up

17 Mar 2018 16:58:24
Writing this as I'm heading to subway. Hope all the murty supporters out there realise now he isn't the man to be there full time. Playing Different teams means playing different players. Different formations. Not playing same every week hoping it works. . Out thought by steve clarke. They snuffed us right out and we didn't like it so players were pish apart from docherty.

17 Mar 2018 16:50:24
Sorry not good enough I've advocated GM get next season at least but after last week's debacle now this can't really make a case for him we desperately need an older head with experience at the top level
How many fans of top level teams would accept the under 20s manager getting top job not a lot I think! I've not seen any benefit Jimmy Nicholl has really brought to the party, another wasted wage Another weekend ruined
Back to under 20s I think.

17 Mar 2018 16:57:08
Harsh.
Although it's these types of point losses that will indeed see GM back with the youths

17 Mar 2018 16:44:11
Absolute dire, shocking performance.

17 Mar 2018 14:23:26
I will be interested in Killie game today as a benchmark because they ran unclean close last just to see if we give them a gubbing and can genuinely say we have improved.

17 Mar 2018 12:34:14
Ed could you set up a poll for me please?
Josh Thompson or Haliday as cover on the left?

For me i would sell Haliday and give Thompson a 2 year contract. As would prefer him as cover to Haliday

{Ed033's Note -


Thompson or Halliday Poll

17 Mar 2018 10:52:46
Not posted for a while. So here goes. I think Murty should be given at least next season as still some work to be done in stabilising the team.
Give him a Season budget of 10m and let him shape his Squad as still a lot of areas to be addressed.
Hopefully Murty and Allan do the same in the Summer as they did in January bring in loans with view to making them permanent. Also signing up loan players that have worked out like John.
I would sign Murphy Cummings Martin and Goss (if there's any chance) plus i would add Cadden Jones McBurnie and Bartley all on permanent deals.

17 Mar 2018 11:47:01
Which players would you like to see bringing in on loan with the view of making them permanent?
I would start with Moult and McKay as England is the main market as always looking to lower wage budgets.

17 Mar 2018 11:48:07
McBurnie is surely a no-brainer, frightening form atm in the Championship down south and I believe he's out of contract at the end of the season? Doesn't hide the fact he's a massive fan, that plus his good friendship with Cumdog surely means it's a win for everyone involved.

17 Mar 2018 11:54:10
My main taget would be Davis if Southampton go down would love to see him back at the club but better seeing what he can still offer to the team as big gamble because of wages

17 Mar 2018 12:12:31
Yes Rutherglenbear McBurnie is a no brainer. can't believe he didn't come in January when he was available for loan but might have been down to wages as Herrera was still on the books taking a hefty wage.

17 Mar 2018 13:14:16
Well hopefully once we get rid of the dead wood in the summer we'll see some movement on that front!

17 Mar 2018 13:29:00
I’m excited about the summer transfer window, when the January window opened I wasn’t expecting much and the business done was very good lots of work to be done shifting the dead wood and sniffing out some bargains I think!

17 Mar 2018 21:13:20
I'd like to see mcburnie, Davis a winger, two centre halfs. Bates and hardie signed, also still think we need a goalkeeper