Rangers Banter Archive March 17 2013

17 Mar 2013 20:38:23
Why does every rangers fan who is on mccoist back just xxxx off he bought players who would win 3rd division and no Scottish player wants to play in 3rd division so that's why he went abroad think many fans forget where we were at last year I know I was happy when mccoist stayed when all the rubbish unfolded last year if he didn't think many fans would be worried that not 1 bluenose was about it would of being worrying that new owners came in and didn't know what rangers where all about I'm glad he stuck about rangers will be bck to where we were winning the top flight year in year out so mccoist will be there till then and will buy better quality players when the time is rite ie top division mccoist will get us there and after a couple of years on top division if he's not doing it I think he would resign kid on fans think they know it it's a recovery period get behind team every sat I don't care about performances in a rubbishty league points come first then when we are bck to where we belong we will see the real rangers

That is the worst excuse. So by your point ally will look to buy players for div
2 and wot, get rid of some of his previous signings. Rangers have a fantastic chance here to have a very young Scottish squad.
Ally reminds me of barcelonas manager
Alls good when on form but when that change is needed or the tactics don't appear to be working the manager is stumped.
1 last thing rangers may win a lot of there games but the mentality is to play ugly football. My mate recently said ally's heart is running this club not his head. A ruthless manager is needed not a manager who thinks rangers are to big to lose

I am trying to work out what you are on about as there's no full stops in your post.
What about last season's signings? What about tactics, or lack of?
What about fitness, or lack of?
What about playing players out of position every week?
All irrelevent to what league we are in.
Ally has a better chance of returning us to Administration than the top league.
As for a kid on fan, I'm 46, being going regular since I was 5, I've had a season ticket since the age of 15 and been all over Europe following my team. I went through all this when John Greig was in charge and see similarities, although Greig knew about tactics, so wise up and smell the coffee before Ally finishes us off for good.

Orange Peel

Ally reminds u of the Barcalona manager surely that's not Guardiola or Vilanova? Must be the wee coach that's standing in your on about? Last week we had Hutton compared to Pirlos now Ally's like the Barca coach I've heard it all now I think Ally's more like Benitez not wanted by the fans and always has a glaeckit look on his face lol.

Larky Bear

Yes he bought players to win div 3.

but they did NOTHING in the cups. even the Ramsden!!

winning div good, getting promotion and bringing in money from cup runs is more important.

ally doing least. this the issue.

no future in just winning div3/2/1/ and making no re-building or income generation. ally is highest paid manager in scotland (counting shares)!!

1st poster here clarifying.
Trying to say buying I players for each division is a bad excuse for ally.
I agree he is not up to the task.
About liking to Villanova, he and ally have no idea how to change a game when they are needed, like tactics.
If ally was as big as a supporter than he claims to be he would see that rangers would be better off with a manager with more experience.

@5: bit hard to really change the game from New York while recuperating from cancer, is it not?

17 Mar 2013 17:22:29
i think ally should get neil mccann in his back room staff what's everyones thoughts?

Why? because he summarises on TV? Get Gabby Logan as well then.

Please not gabby logan there, s enough t**s in the technical area
just now. jimbo.

Maybe a good shout. Gabby Logan could win the third division as well! Ally should go now. If he is happy with that performance yesterday, we have major problems. Every game seems to be a struggle.

Dont tell me, he is a Rangers man and knows what it takes. Can we not just recruit people on ability. I don't care what anybody tells me but the football for the last ten years has been *hit.
McLeish, Smith and now McCoist boring negative painfull to watch *hit. Why did Ally get the job again?nice to see he has not lost any of that sense of humour he has, I was watching him have a good old laugh with some of the guys at the weekend, I just think there is a lack of discipline and respect throughout the whole set up. I just get frustrated watching this dire football being served up every season. What are we doing at Murray park with the youngsters where is the technical ability. Please just try and play the game the way it should be played, I, m tired of watching this stuff please listen to the fans before we lose the support we have. Sorry I have had it up to the back teeth, "that was the performance we needed " deary me.

17 Mar 2013 16:06:11
I've got to laugh, listening to the radio yesterday and the pundits are all saying that sky needs to be sitting down with the SFA SPL and try and sort out a way (with sporting integrity still in mind) of fast traking Rangers back to the SPL to save Scottish Football. They were going on about sky won't wait another 2 years without an Old Firm clash. what's happened to all this "We don't Rangers"
SCM

The pundits are looking out for their own jobs They don't speak for the fans

Wonder who the Ex-Ranger pundit was?Propaganda maybe?

We don't want back in spl let them suffer they got their way

This talk is irrelevant. Rangers need three years of audited accounts before being eligible to play in the top tier. This is a uefa regulation.

To post 4 absolute bum juice mate, you need 3 years of accounts to play in europe!

god where do these folk come from, and why was such a blooper even posted.

*ksd*

To @5 @4 is right you need 3 years audited accounts to play in top division of a country affiliated to UEFA - but as ever if you are RFC sporting rules mean nothing.

if did not stop them playing in CL before (not having current audited accounts, as they had 3years of old accounts?) -

doubt SFA/SPL will stop them (armageddon argument is about RFC NOT getting in to top league asap - not collapse now).

@5 dems is de rules mate!

*ksd*. @4 here. Your ignorance is laughable. You've embarrassed yourself there fella.

17 Mar 2013 13:56:47
How can Ally come out and say that we will be starting next season with kids? As far as I am aware most of the players signed have 2 or 3 year contracts and unless he is playing too release them then he will have to try and sell them. Can't see many other clubs wanting these players who have performed so poorly and are on good money being attractive to other clubs. It also looks as though McCoist is getting his excuses in early for next season! On a different point " how petty are the SFA refusing to let Barry Ferguson do his coaching badges in Scotland?" just another example why these people should be removed from office.

Barry Ferguson is footballing national team disgrace and should never be allowed a management position anywhere in Scotland.
Tartan Army Footsoldier.

Il never watch scotland again and hope they lose every game they play

@1, you say 'Tartan Army Footsoldier' as if that's something to be proud of. 'Loser' would have done the job just fine.

@1 what do u base your argument on? Or are you just another bitter man?

17 Mar 2013 11:19:42
This is not acceptbale any longer. Get the title wrapped up, hope the whole reconstruction thing works in our favour and make a change in the summer.

McCoist out. And let him take his diddy signings with him.

s20c

17 Mar 2013 07:55:17
I've been both supportive and critical of McCoist in the past but I think it's become too predictable to go Ally bashing on this site nowadays. Take yesterday for example and the slaying of the team's performance by fans. I'm pretty sure the manager would have picked Cole, McCleod and Temmpleton if they had all been fit to play. I was far happier seeing McCulloch back shearing up our defence and whilst I'd still prefer to see Little playing as our central striker, there wasn't a lot McCoist could have done differently. Look at the bench and see what other options he had. Not many.

Oh yeah but they just punt the ball up the park and hope for the best I'll hear. That wasn't true and the opposition always flood their midfield and pack their defence against us and leave very little space for our midfielders to play. McCoist has given the youngsters every chance this season and Some times it has worked and some time not but I support his efforts totally for this. Some of them have just turned 18, are playing week in, week out against players who gear themselves up to make a name for themselves in four games of the season against Rangers and fans come on here and criticise them.

I'd like to see us win the league soon and for Ally to play as many as the younger players as he dares in the remaining fixtures and say to them go out and play and have fun expressing yourselves and don't worry about making mistakes. Ignore the boos and the taunts. Maybe the fans will start having more fun too.

Gretna walked div3 - without any of the resources for gers, no internationalists, no spl-level players, and walked it 3-1 on average.

there is no comparison to the durge we seeing.

Well that's a new one, the oppostion are treating it like FOUR cup finals now. How very dare they! And don't you think every domestic game is like that for both Rangers and Celtic? There are 6 or 7 internationalists in that squad that should be making this a relative breeze for the younger players.

Gaz

I have got too disagree with you when one of our younger players finds form he drops them why? All this don't want too burn out the younger guys p$sh does not wash with me there so called "professional" footballers if playing a game a week tires them out they should just pack there bags the best players in the world don't want too miss a game and these teams are usually playing atleast twice a week. Our fitness levels are shocking I've questioned Rangers training regimes since Smith was in charge it's become embarrassing beating Elgin 1-0 away when East Stirling & Peterhead can score 6 & 7 goals. We can't take set pieces we can't defend set pieces. too say we couldn't have done much differently is a joke he had Hemmings McKay & Naismith on the bench yesterday when Black & Sandaza were woeful & done nothing too warrant a start in any game this season there is no desire in the team or the management staff we are on a sinking ship here CG needs to make a change soon or were going to continue to ship silly points or win ugly get chucked out the cups & sign total duds overpaid & overpriced because no one on Scotland will sell too Rangers cheap the coming seasons are going too be bloody hellish and I'm just sick of it no other club in the world would have kept McCoist after the performances & lack of Commitment his team have shown against part time outfits!

I think our youth system and set up bringing young players through doesn't seem to be working. for example walsall set up smallest budgets in that league favourites to go down. chairman and good young manager dean smith said there's no way their going too buy their way out of league so set up from schools and youth system to bring players through watching football league show a lot of them went to school together brought them through together. you can do it with small budget if u have system in place from top to bottom which we don't have.

I just hope that whoever takes over from Ally wants to get us playing entertaining football because the entertainment value of watching the team this season has been frankly pathetic most weeks.

What name for themselve's, because they are playing Rangers, get a life these guy's work for a living and are out for a game of football.
Tam

What 18 year old players are played week in week out? Lewis Mc!eod was the only one starting every week until his injury. McKay had been on the bench mostly and Crawford, Aird and Naismith haven't started many games. As for Cole think he had only started 1 game until he got injured. So I don't what u base that statement on? The performances have been shocking, he plays 1 of our top scores out of position week in week out, he plays 1 up front home and away and finally his signings have been woeful. It is easy to criticise him due to him being useless as a manager. If your happy with what your watching week in week out then you must be easily pleased. I like many other fans what to see my team play some good football and entertain. Don't think that's too much to ask for?

Use some logic people, I totally agree that performances have been woeful but let's look at this with a bit of common sense eh

you can't compare us to Gretna or any other team in the division simply because we are completely different to any of them

It's a circus when Rangers come to town, the teams up their game and do all they can to take a dent out of the big boys, it's a completely different situation than any other team in the division has ever faced

Ally plays 5 in the middle to try to combat the increased effort of the opposition and to give our shoogly defence a bit more protection, which is why it's mainly set pieces that cause us grief

5 in midfield means you have to sacrifice a striker, Little is by far the most suited to go out wide so he goes out wide

The kids have done well but they can't be expected to carry the expectations of Rangers without the help of the experienced players

It's not a perfect situation but we're winning the league in March ffs, with a team thrown together at the last minute, it may not be perfect but it'll do me fine under the circumstances

@8 we are up against part time PLAYERS. The team thrown together as you say contains Alexander, Wallace, Black, Shiels, McCulloch, Sandaza & Templeton all of whom have plenty SPL experience. Added to that Little & Hutton who have played at a much higher level than the 3rd division. Your argument just doesn't wash and yet again another fan who is happy to makes excuses for diabolical performances. The football should be improving as the season wears on not getting worse

Good post look at annan yesterday losing to clyde these teams only up their game when rangers come calling

@9 I'm not making any excuses, the games have been woeful to watch but after the last year do we really want to start complaining about quality?

Alexander, Wallace and Big Jig have been as solid as expected, Little and Hutton have came on leaps and bounds while Temps and Shiels have been hit and miss (literally more often than not), Sandaza tries but is let down by lack of support and Black has been a major let down in my opinion

Regardless of that it takes any team time to gel, Man City have took some beatings and have hardly looked like world beaters this season

I don't care if we're playing against milkmen and plumbers, they quite clearly raise their game against us, they have no expectations on them while Rangers have every scrutinizing eye on them

My point is that there are clear reasons why certain decisions are being made, it's beyond the pale in my opinion to get the pitchforks out without looking at the reasons and the context

We have lost 2 league games, drawn 6, sitting 20 points clear, have a goal difference advantage of +38 and could potentially be lifting the league trophy on the 23rd of March!

Is there another side in the world right now that can say that?

There was none of this earlier in the season when we were scudding teams for 5 or 6, or wiping the floor with Motherwell, you say teams are supposed to improve but like you say, we're playing against part timers, in cow fields infront of a dozen people, it's hard to stay motivated when the job is quite clearly done and dusted

Far from making excuses I'm just a tad more realistic than most, try it, it's less stressful

@10 really? You can't play against a bunch of plumbers and carpenters who train maybe twice an evening? Wow your "manager" can't come up with a game plan to beat less talented, less fitter and earning far less than the pramadonnas in the newco team?

Wow your excuses are pretty p. s poor mate! What is it going to be like next season or even when you get back to the top tier (whatever it will be called) and you are struggling along? Because there is no way you are going forward with ally! But someone like you will have a whole new bag of excuses by then won't you!

@12 Like I said I'm not making excuses, we should be playing better, we certainly should not be relying on the long ball

If you, and others, can just for a minute look through the blinkers, I'm assuming they're green in your case, at the problems the 'newco' are facing then there are easy to see reasons and answers

talent and fitness are a factor I'll give you, earnings aren't, like I said before Man City are hardly setting the world alight despite their multiple 200k a week superstars

The main problem is motivation in my opinion, the game against Motherwell should beyond doubt what we can do and let's look into that a bit more

The first game against an SPL side since we left the league, everybody writing us off, no real expectation and everything to prove, yet we wiped the floor with them

Kinda like a tiny wee club, say Stirling Albion or Annan Athletic just for instance, wanting their time in the limelight, trying that extra wee bit harder than usual, running a bit faster for a bit longer, chasing balls they wouldn't usually go for, going in for tackles a bit harder, just generally putting more passion in due to the spectacle and the occasion

I'm sure you'll still see all of that as an excuse but if I have made any excuses then please let me make just one again

We have lost 2 league games, drawn 6, sitting 20 points clear, have a goal difference advantage of +38 and could potentially be lifting the league trophy on the 23rd of March

Is there another side in the world right now that can say that?