Rangers Banter Archive July 17 2014

 

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17 Jul 2014 23:05:18
New strip out today may grow on me but not that impressed, but at least the Grandad top will go down well with most of the first team.

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How about doing some homework before you come on here and spout this nonsense. Go have a look at the first team squad and work out the average age. I am sure you will get a shock. IF you come back with an answer to this (which I doubt) then I am sure you will be eating some humble pie

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18 Jul 2014 16:46:47
@1 Oi Ally's agent isn't this a banter site? However I did what you suggested and of course it depends on what team Ally picks
But from previous form I reckon he will select if fit
Bell 28
Foster 28
Moshni 26
McGregor 28
Wallace 26
Jig 36
Black 29
Law 26
McLeod 20
Boyd 30
Miller 34

average age 28.27years

Aird would bring the average down Shields would put it back up Templeton at 25 would reduce it slightly.

Not the oldest Rangers team ever but will be the oldest in the Championship

Looking at these players only McLeod would probably be on low wages.

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JonnoSTB take a friggin chill pill it's a banter page I'll give you the time of day this once so don't challenge me to reply to you mr McCoist had not exactly brought in young players in fact he's doing the opposite are you ally his child or something, I bet you've pictures of him in you bedroom.

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Bongo the comment about grandad shirts is vert apt

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Bongo these pictures you talk of are probably hung on the walls in the toilet lol

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17 Jul 2014 20:48:50
I'm reading the Rangers rumours and the guy writes That rangers didn't find their rhythm but whether that was down to the poor surface or fatigue from training GIVE ME A BREAK 3 games into pre season and he's saying the players are tired I recommend that the players do 40 hours hard labour like the rest of us do every week. And they get a wee jolly to America as well fatigue my Butt, friggin lazyness

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17 Jul 2014 17:22:55
March planned for this week-end is a total waste of time. Much as I am 100% against the 'rebels', I applaud their dedication, but we must try to get some sort of unification. Our starting point is that we are all bluenoses, so why don't we try to promote a supporter's association with clubs from all districts, meeting to try to get a united front. First factor that must be sorted is the divorce of the financial side of the team and our problems with the management and team.

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Billy, who is marching? And what are they marching for?

JG

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JG, according to reports it's the uof walking to Ibrox from Kinning Park [I think. ] It is, in my opinion, a futile attempt to try and protect the title deeds for Ibrox etc.

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17 Jul 2014 21:14:32
JG It's the Sons of Struth/ Union of Fans trying to keep up the awareness of their campaign to ring fence Ibrox and Auchenhowie. I tend to agree with billyb whilst admiring their enthusiasm and dedication what ultimate difference will it make? I suppose I wouldn't knock it as the easiest thing in life is sitting back and criticising and I agree with billyb we need to get all the fans together somehow. but billyb even if we agreed about the board, the shares, the governance and a way forward there is a certain wee gang of three on the touchlines who hopelessly divide us. But I forgot am being positive today so we shall overcome- someday!

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I agree with you both, it doesn't have much chance of making any impact after the ST boycott fiasco but I also won't knock the bears who attend for trying to make a difference.

Is it being reported in the papers back there because I couldn't see anything about it?

JG

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17 Jul 2014 22:50:14
Won't make a blind bit of difference but you have to applaud those guys for trying to do something. The real issue is that Auchenhowie hasn't produced the young talent it should have and thus it's not paying for itself. The running costs are supposed to be very high and too much for the club to afford.

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Instead of admiring their dedication get there leaders to sit round the table and agree a way forward to buy club instead of waiting for some other greedy grasper talking a good game but doing nothing

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Just so I'm clear.

You all advocate doing nothing but would like change? Criticize the few folk who will march against the board and actively come on here to say you don't agree with any protest?

If your the the voice of Rangers I give up!

"And Nero fiddled while Rome burned. "

Charli3.

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18 Jul 2014 08:49:01
Charli3 you have kinda got us but not quite. If you read my post I am recognising the lads are committed and doing their bit but just questioning whether it will actually change anything.
Remember the "Save Rangers" Campaign where the organisers failed to offer Paul Murray any financial help to increase the pot to defeat Green ( to have the highest bid)?
The failed withholding of the season ticket money this year and now a march to an empty stadium.

Hats of them and not being critical because as I say that is the easiest thing in life to do -sit back -do feck all and be critical we were simply offering an opinion that it will probably not succeed but wishing them well.

Another quote I would offer here is for "evil to succeed all it takes is for good men to do nothing".
We all sat back and believed Whyte's lies and I will get behind the next good idea 100%.

So not being critical just doubting the voracity and chance of a game changing outcome of the march to an empty stadium.

But well done chaps - thank you on all our behalf's and every best wish for the march.

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Charli3, I think the general opinion is that the march is a waste of time. Obviously something has to change, especially on the playing side. We might not agree on the commercial decisions made by our club but these are made by the officials of the majority. [i. e. the board. ] However, there is a growing majority fed up with our style of play and that is what we should target with the initial protests.
And Charli, I think most of us would not fiddle, but phone the fire service.

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Charli - don't know what you are responding to but it sure isn't the posts above

None of the above posters have criticized those who will march in an effort to have security over Ibrox, all we are saying is that their march will not have any impact,

maybe you should read through them again

Just so I am clear,

I have always advocated fans buying shares

JG

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Charli3 I like your post mate and I have already answered it some time ago but it maybe got lost in the ether or the "Tinternet"

A bit of your criticism is hereby fully accepted by me.
However given the "Save Rangers" campaign failed to save us.
The march to Hampden didn't do much good
The Dave King/ Union of Fans witholding of season ticket money to secure Ibrox and Murray Park all sunk like stones

Isn't there a danger of the Gers support being labled with the following two or more isms?

Chocolate fireguard-ism
Ash tray on a motorbike-ism or in other words not much effen use or no real need for them.

"So your saying sit back and do nothing?"- No not at all but let's think about what will work. What would get whoever to sit up and take notice and once thought through let's all do it. Your right not everybody will do it because a lot of people prefer to sit on their asspidistras and criticise its easy we can all do it. But although I don't know the other chaps personally other than through these banter pages I know we all care passionately about the club and would go the extra mile if the idea had merit and a chance of really changing anything.

Maybe sometime in the future the ED might go for a couple of suggestions to effect change per day and see if any of them find favour with the posters on here?

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17 Jul 2014 16:13:43
I reckon another urgent walk required at Ibrox with a simple banner "Thanks Ally --- NOW DO WALKING AWAY --PLEASE"

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Kerry - if we lose the first cup game against hibs, the board must take action

Say what you want about green, but I think if he had been on the board last year when crowds were falling, he would have bumped ally

JG

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So winning the league isn't enough for you then eh?

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JonnoSTB, winning the league has been the absolute minimum requirement for the last 2 seasons and now for this one. Failure to win the Ramsdens or what ever it is called now is a sacking offence given our resources. So if I'm honest winning the league alone is not enough. In my opinion Ally will win the league this season then leave the club as a hero having taken the club back to the prem, but leaving an already ageing squad and about 10 of the first team squad out of contract which the new manager will then be left to pick up the pieces with a reduced budget (as Graham Wallace has already stated) and salary.

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Jonno - if that question is for me then
No, not this year,
Ally must put decent cup runs together, we got knocked out league cup 1st round last season, we couldn't even win the ramsden cup and lost to the first decent team we played in the Scottish

that is not enough, for me anyway

JG

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N2jonnostb no other rangers manager has gone as long as mccoist has without winning a cup people say we should at least win ramsden cup with our wage bill well I think we should have won it these last two seasons we should be going for 3 in a row with this trophy imo as its not just this season we have dwarfed these opposition sides money wise

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2. ) So winning the league isn't enough for you then eh?

You havin' a laugh!

Cannot believe your post is serious.

We could have, and should have been put out of the Scottish Cup by the mighty Albion Rovers last season.

Is that good enough for you eh?

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19 Jul 2014 10:59:50
tmwnn I think IF we got promotion this year and we didn't win the Ramsden's on any of the three seasons we could have won it. Then that would trump by the length of Paisley Road West wee Ally's undefeated 3rd worst league triumph. If we don't win a cup this year he would have been in charge of 13 cup campaigns all ending in failure but the three Ramsden's would surely have been the most win-able in theory?

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Nbear I wonder if ally would now give up the unbeaten run for one win of ramsden I think he would bite yer hand off to have won it by now eh I would rather have lost a few games and won ramsden than not to have won it at all unless ally knows we will win it this season eh lol what's your thought on this defeated but won ramsden or unbeaten no ramsden

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Tmwnn The longer Ally is in charge the less important the results are becoming to me. I will always want the club to do well but when it is Ally's version of "football" I become more and more scunnered. In terms of history a defeat or three in the Championship would be less damaging than 3 years in the lower leagues without the lower leagues cup.
Incidentally on the financial pages I am not advocating any innocence but if it is all over and cut and dried as these more knowledgeable posters state categorically why is no-one in jail?
I would almost plead guilty if it got me a cell with wee Shyte and a chance to severely slap his puss

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@9 Nbear

"The longer Ally is in charge the less important the results are becoming to me. I will always want the club to do well but when it is Ally's version of "football" I become more and more scunnered. "

I share your sentiments totally.

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17 Jul 2014 15:30:06
Just reading about Ally planning to show the video nasty of the defeat to the recently formed American team. I'm sure some of us could think of a right few other matches to look at over the last 3 years however here's a thought.
Would it not be better to show these players a positive match like the World Cup Semi between Germany and Brazil?

Now I am acknowledging the massive difference in class but what I'm thinking of is let the players see how much easier it is for the player in possession if his team mates are running into space and giving him
more options?

Just like the Germans did against Brazil. If you look at the game there are always a number of passes open to the player in possession.

And yes they are a class apart and yes it is a confidence thing and players will hide if the confidence is low which is why wee Black moaning at them won't help.

But I'm trying positivity today what about it Ally show the players a video goody and not a nasty?

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Nbear, your logic is spot on and any decent coach would try to educate the players by viewing, ' how to play the simple game'. Maybe, even 2touch in bounce games-- wall passing [ one, two's], call it what you like. But, most of all play football on the deck and get your wide players behind the opposition. It's not rocket science, just common sense. Nbear, like yourself, frustration about our tactics is paramount to our predicament on the pitch. I posted on the 1st. July that my comments in future would not include A. Mc, but we will not produce a good team until he is gone.

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I agree with both post above but I think the team have got to try a 5 yard pass before they get addventures and try the dreaded 10 yard pass so maybe as you suggest billyb they should try the old one two with the wall cause that way the ball would come right back to them maybe lol

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Tmwnn, Like Nbear and yourself I am trying to be positive but one of the 'ally brigade' have pointed out that we need to allow for the roughcast and, anyway, there are no walls on a football pitch!

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Billyb there are no football players on our pitch

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If you really want to see Ally's "tactics" at work, watch our subs at half time. All they do is batter 50 yard long balls at each other fom one side of the pitch to the other. Whereas most opposition teams will be playing a short passing game and when somebody in the wee circle of players miscontrols/loses the ball they go into the middle to try get it back (they sometimes end up with 2 or 3 players in the middle putting pressure on the ball at so that their colleagues get accustomed to receiving the ball in tight situations).

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Youngwinston we have seen allys tactics at work long ball to daly if that don't work then the players punt long ball to daly and if it doesn't work again they say third time lucky try punntin a long ball to big daly lol

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@6, and if that doesn't work, take Daly off, put Moshni up front and punt it up to him.

Laughable.

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17 Jul 2014 14:22:25
New complete kit 14/15 now on Rangers website.
smart
r. f

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Pity it as it won't suit the players or manager as their standard of play isn't too smart

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Even the new rangers strip is used to have a dig.

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17 Jul 2014 00:28:20
Watched game via Rtv, as an exhibition I wouldn't look too much into it, though match was very unpretty. It seems apparent why we used the 'Black to Daly' tactic last year- we can not string more than 5 passes together! Does this not bemuse /worry anyone? 'professionals' on professional wages are incapable of mastering a basic football skill.

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Passing ain't really a skill is it?

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Fosters quote on the defeat class.
"none of us are looking for excuses for the defeat, sure there was the travelling, the time difference, the pitch, the, new formation.

failed to mention half the teams crap, and the other half had hangovers from the poolside party, with the college kids who humped them.

Tab being picked up by fans ST renewal monies.

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Bb he isn't looking for excuses then give three amazin eh lol if we don't lol we will end up greetin

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