Rangers Banter Archive January 17 2013

17 Jan 2013 16:00:52
(Rangers fan here) I think auzzie players are hit or miss, we signed Matt Mackay, auz national team captain at the time, and he was tosh, but you look at ryan mcgowan at hearts (i dunno if he left recently) done well. Apprently when they come from the auz league they struggle with proper training!

McKay? you think he got a proper chance? Aussie players struggle? Moore, Viduka and McDonald seemed to get on fine.

What a load of crap mate! Matt McKay was a cracking player theonly thing he struggled with at rangers was the incompetent manager not playing him! He was outstanding in the reserves, but due to a much publicised falling out with mccoist he never got the chance!
Stella was an unknown quantity and the fact that he had come from an Italian team and not the a league proves your theory wrong! Lets face it the a league as dier it is is a far step up from scottish football leagues especially div 3!
Maybe Stella left because he realized that going to rangers was a huge mistake and no way to further his career! And the realization that mccoist would be the worst manager the boy has ever worked with! Just food for thought for ya!

McKay was quoted saying there was no real training just bounce games.

@3 yeah that doesn't surprise me! Probably the limit of ally's coaching techniques! For somebody to come out and say A league training is sub standard to Scottish football! Understanding how serious Australians take their sport the institute of sport in australia are world leaders in training and producing high quality sporting teams and individuals and has been the role model for our own sporting academies!
And before all the negative comments come back let me remind you that Australia in football terms have done something that we have never done, and qualify for the second phase in a World Cup! And qualifying in a group containing Brazil, Croatia and Japan and only to be cheated out of a quarter final by a diving Italian!! And all that having to come through qualifying play offs against Uruguay!!
They have come a long way considering it would be Australia's 4 ranked football code and probably 6 or 7th ranked team sport!!
So before you start slagging Australian football maybe take a long hard look at our under achieving football set up!

McKay was in the form of his life when he signed. In his first start he dominated the right side, including whipping a cross in on a dime for an assist (header by McCulloch I think). It was a shame to see him wasted on the bench. A waste.

Melb bhoy

Hey Melb I agree, but he wasn't even in the squad that much, never mind the bench, whattamisso.

Kelpie
Brissie

17 Jan 2013 13:21:09
If workers can go anywhere in the world to work, then why should football players be treated any different from UEFA/FIFA etc..? I'm not saying we should move sticks and head south, or anywhere else, we're a proud Scottish club and here we'll stay, but why are footballers denied potential moves to other clubs due to certain restrictions enhibiting them from the chance of furthering their careers due to their age, ie under 21's need to be capped at international level a certain number of times to be even concidered for a cross continental transfer, we don't have fair prospects in Scotland, the horizons need to open up with FIFA/UEFA for fair workers rights with respct to where you choose to work.

Kelpie {The Ed039's Note - Kelpie, Workers cant just go anywhere else in the world and work. ie if you moved to Australia as a British citizen then there is certain criteria you would need to fufill before being granted a visa to move and work there and its the same vice versa, there are no restrictions on members of the EU moving between member countries to work and live, but outside the EU then there are most certainly restrictions on "ordinary workers" moving, its not UEFA and FIFA who put the work permit restrictions on non EU players in the UK, that is the home office who make these rules, and make decisions on everybody, not just footballers)

Kelpie . Football has it own rules ( Bosman) for instance. Its complcated . FIFA/UEFA do not like the civil courts getting involved in football. The initial 3 forigners rule in the 80s that included EU players. Just lets leave it and not to get bogged down in it mate.

Most countries around the world require a university degree as a minimum, regulated by Goverment, for a residence permit and work visa.

Not the uk, I was able to join the armed forces as a commonwealth citizen! But it is very difficult to get into oz! And rightly so! But I am sure you will all feel very much at home in Perth WA as the amount of lowlife English there is a disgrace! {The Ed039's Note - Well as a member of the commonwealth armed forces one might have thought that you would know the difference between coming from Scotland and England)

I filled my paperwork out and moved to Australia around 9 years ago Ed. Funny you mentioned that. Thanks for your replys.

Kelpie.

p.s. We might not be the best at the moment, but we still need to get behind the players & the team, the good times outweigh the bad, and will again soon enough, i'm keeping patient and possitive.

@#1. Wasn't the Bosman case held up in a civil court, thus causing the transfer of free players to be placed in those players hands?

@#2. You don't need a uni degree as a minimum to obtain residence or a work visa for most countries, as you posted. My point is if players can meet a standard to which I had to, to get into Australia, why is it harder for sports people to go elsewhere, if they want to and are wanted. Then only to be stopped by some age old seemingly timeless rules, I just don't think that sport as payed work should be any different to any other trade/job.

Kelpie.