Rangers Banter Archive August 17 2020

 

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17 Aug 2020 23:42:19
Hate to say it think the managers time is up lol. Why oh why are we selling/ loaning good players. We have learned nothing from the last season we need to play 4-4-2 against teams who sit really deep with 11 men behind the ball especially when they have no pace to counter attack against us. He had £8 million worth of strikers on the bench. Helander is just too slow and will struggle at times even though he is a good reader of the game. And playing 2 holding midfielders in Jack and kamara is not necessary when they play so negative. I would have Greg docherty in front of kamara all day long.



18 Aug 2020 01:25:28
He will see the season out, can't see him being removed. Just got to hope he switches up tactics and players.



18 Aug 2020 01:51:24
Don't think 442 is the fix.



18 Aug 2020 06:56:20
I would go 352 instead of 442 as a 442 would maybe stifle barasic and (Tav) getting forward as much as they do.



18 Aug 2020 07:41:17
I’d go 352 also Good all round formation

High defence line - pressing opposition and wingbacks support the attack

And the benefit of having two up top instead of 1 or And possibly having the attacking midfielder in the middle could push up to give the 3 up front

The formation allows to press the opposition that we usually do anyway but right now Morelos up too on his own and comes back to midfield to pick the ball up which is hopeless as wee seen on Sunday

Maybe I’m talking rubbish and I should stick to playing fifa 😂😂😂🤣.



18 Aug 2020 07:51:43
Who are we selling/ loaning? that's going to improve 1st 11?



18 Aug 2020 08:04:31
Creative midfielder who can split a defence open one way or another

God knows who though

Will wait and see who we manage to get in.



18 Aug 2020 08:39:16
I blame this Football Manager game. Everybody seems to be an expert on tactics now. If SG chucks it we will be in good hands with all the experts on here.



18 Aug 2020 09:31:01
Totally agree Jaws, I can't believe the reaction on here since Sunday, thank God we're not Barcelona.



18 Aug 2020 10:03:45
Jaws couldn't agree more. 1 Draw at a notoriously hard away fixture and people want the manager gone haha. Laughable 'support'. I was as disappointed on sunday as anyone but surely when you take a step back you move on and look to the next game. New signings need to bed in, however i do agree we can't be giving them 20 mins here and there and expecting them to change our fortunes.



18 Aug 2020 10:21:52
Don’t need to play footballs manager to know that 4 3 3 is not working same tactics every game and same tactics that has not won us any trophies when are we going to learn it needs to change.



18 Aug 2020 11:11:34
I said two year ago that 433 is not working and that we should be playing two up top. 👍.



18 Aug 2020 11:33:49
Coldo, you still need to get the ball to your 2 up top. are you really saying start playing the long ball over the top?



18 Aug 2020 11:45:18
we pass to them to hold it up, we cross it in to them or we go long to them in behind. Geesa don't you know how to play football? Trying to play it through a back 10 to one ST hasn't been working for a few year now🙈👍.



18 Aug 2020 12:15:23
Exactly Coldo. It doesn't need to be pretty, just effective.
Against Livi before Itten came on we put a few decent crosses in but the 2 Livi CDs were all over it. Tav put a good cross into the box into an area where a second striker should have been either waiting or running into.
As it is we are not getting the ball into dangerous enough areas when teams play the low blow because we are too slow and our pass and movement in the Livi game was awful.
Best way to get the ball into the danger area is either long ball or in from the wings and then if need be be first to the second ball.



18 Aug 2020 13:03:00
Spot on JC, its not rocket science. 👍.



18 Aug 2020 13:06:42
Surely the way to get through a back 10 would be to play through it? 🤔
Is 2 strikers better than 3 forwards? 🤔
Morelos holds the ball up and harasses CB as good as anyone
We didn't play well enough against livi, it wasn't because we were playing 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, or even your answer to everything 4-4-2 coldo! 😉.



18 Aug 2020 13:47:12
we played over 20 minutes against livi with a 442 and played worse in my eyes.



18 Aug 2020 17:21:38
But we couldn't play through them on Sunday mrgrumpy so surely we should have went over them or at least set up and tried to. No point continuing to do something that isn't working as I think we can all agree we could see after 20 mins what was happening.



18 Aug 2020 18:08:56
Kent, Morelos, hagi didn't turn up.
I think it was more poor individual performances that was to blame.



18 Aug 2020 19:56:30
I agree re poor individual performance I’d also add arfield kamara jack to your three.



17 Aug 2020 23:10:13
Quick question

So reading the posts today folk saying Mccrorie and Docherty not good enough?

Mccrorie aside

Can anyone tell me who signed this list of players? Either permanent or on loan and if they were good enough and why they were bought .?

Greg Docherty
Jordan jones
Murphy
Andy king
Jake hastie
Brandon Barker
Greg Stewart
Edmundson
Eros Grezda
Worral
Flanagan
Ojo

You can see where I'm going
Some have already left tails behind there legs

Some still here but apparently not good enough for Rangers

Why did we sign them?

one or two decent players he's managed to sign but look at the majority

If we all had millions to spend I'm sure we could all dig out a few decent players too

A lot of money in that list in transfer fees and wages

And guess what no return?

Yes I may be like a dog with a bone lol

Yesterday the light switched on and realised

Our manger is way out his depth I almost feel sorry for him he didn't know what he was coming into and didn't realise the job at hand

Wonder how the board feel behind closed doors with there millions all spent 😳😳😨

It's not 4 games. It's on his 3rd season.



18 Aug 2020 01:14:46
Yes, unfortunately looks to be the case. Really have to hope he changes his mindset as unlikely as it is.



18 Aug 2020 01:22:50
Edmundson has been a decent signing, Jones should be utilized better. Other than that. Not looking too good.



18 Aug 2020 06:58:13
I would play Edmundson before helander as he is far too slow can read a game but he couldn’t lace David weird boots.
I said yesterday his signing haven’t been up to scratch.



18 Aug 2020 07:52:43
half gerrards signings hav been honkin there's certainly no denying he's wasted a lot of money.



18 Aug 2020 09:06:09
Think Filip is decent too, hasn't really done much wrong.



18 Aug 2020 09:51:01
Show us a manager who has nothing but successful signings? When trying to put together a totally new squad you are obviously going to pick up a few that don’t set the Heather on fire.



18 Aug 2020 10:38:31
The overall value of the rangers squad is over £50m.
Has SG made dodgy/ odd signings? Yes but have a look at the squad a couple of seasons ago to the one we have today.
We're in a much better place now.



18 Aug 2020 12:55:19
Mr grumpy I would hope so given the money spent

Past few years before him we were not spending the money we are now - need to go back a fair few years pre Mccoist

Can’t remember which manager last had £7 million
4.5 million -and what’s ever millions we spent on 2 new guys

It’s been a while I’m certain if that

So if the team was t better after that then that would be a major worry lol 😉.



18 Aug 2020 17:00:49
Stigno do her and Murphy signed by rangers pre gerrard.
Edmundson doing fine for a young player.
Flanagan done us A job, which was why he was brought in.
Jordan jones had it then blew it. Rest I agree poor.
And Barker was signed by Allen, without gerrard knowing.



17 Aug 2020 22:16:10
Well I wish Ross Mccrorie all the very best for his future as an individual. He lived the dream wearing the famous shirt but it was not to be.
I hope he has a fantastic career, and plays many games for his country.
Thanks for what u gave for your team and ours.
It's a loan to buy deal, so only way he will return is if we change manager, which I don't want.



18 Aug 2020 07:51:40
John25, echo your words extending best wishes to the boy, although believe we are making a mistake.



18 Aug 2020 08:37:41
Bankie we sure r. but Sg did not want him. 350 k not much plus add ons and sell on.



17 Aug 2020 21:15:38
You've got to laugh whenever its one of our players being talked about for a transfer fees peole scoff when we say we want this much or that much for example Barasić some people say we'd be lucky to get 8 million while Tierney went for 25m they say we should just accept 10-12m for Morelos and I saw a story somewhere Edouard now being quoted at 40m its a laugh that when we value our best players at what we think is top dollar people maje fun of it and the that other mob seem to inflate their players prices and nothing gets said so out board are just right to tell clubs to pay up or piss off.



17 Aug 2020 23:28:31
Champions league exposure and performances add value, unfortunately our players aren’t playing at the top table. If Barasic performs well for Croatia in next comp then his value will soar and I believe he’s our biggest financial asset.



18 Aug 2020 07:00:32
Scotty when have they played in champs league and down well recently?
edouard has only played in qualifiers am sure maybe wrong but when your own fans say he ain’t even worth this amount how can we expect top dollar for our players.



18 Aug 2020 07:54:42
Morelos current form not even playin like a 2mill player never mind 20. borna is a 20 mill player all day long. Older he gets his value will go down tho as will soon b no sell on value.



18 Aug 2020 11:13:20
We got abuse from the usual blinkered posters on here for calling out morelos a few weeks ago🤦‍♂️👍.



17 Aug 2020 21:01:04
Need to change to a 3-5-2 for the teams who park the bus. Need more numbers in and around the box

Mcgregor or McLaughlin

Goldson. Balogun. Helander

Jack or kamara
Tav. Barisic
Aribo. Hagi or Kent

Morelos Itten.



17 Aug 2020 22:06:06
Fed up saying that.



17 Aug 2020 22:23:19
Agreed, thought we caused some panic in Livingston defence yesterday in the last 10 mins when we were more direct and started firing balls into the box where Roofe and Itten were. Tried that earlier I'm positive we'd have won that game. Unfortunately, I don't see a change happening cause Gerard won't change. They went 3-5-2 after the winter break and steam rolled over everyone so it worked for them.



18 Aug 2020 11:14:22
Stevie wonder could see the difference in our play when we went two up top👍.



17 Aug 2020 20:26:02
Aaron Hickey Off to Bayern Munch 5 year deal. we should be buying the best Scottish talent.



17 Aug 2020 20:33:44
Punter and play him where.



17 Aug 2020 20:34:17
Don't know what young Scottish talent would get in our team! To be honest every time I seen hickey he has a stinker.



17 Aug 2020 20:38:51
he'd be one for the future.



17 Aug 2020 20:40:49
they just pumped Barcelona so the coaches must know a bit more them our shower.



17 Aug 2020 20:48:24
Hickey for me is a dumpling.



17 Aug 2020 20:51:17
Punter we can’t afford to buy players at his price and not play them.



17 Aug 2020 21:18:14
Don’t see it.



17 Aug 2020 21:37:34
Surprising as the boy has been very poor anytime I've seen him.



17 Aug 2020 22:13:56
Rank rotten.



17 Aug 2020 22:56:26
Don’t really get this, anytime I’ve seen the boy he is nothing special, in fact often a weak link in Hearts defence.



18 Aug 2020 05:19:37
Terrible anytime I have seen him, no physicality. Would never get a game for us. We are not very well renowned for giving youth a chance also unfortunately.



17 Aug 2020 18:25:41
How should we line up on Saturday against Kilmarnock? What formation? Who gets dropped?



17 Aug 2020 18:39:49
As we know Kilmarnock are bus parkers.



17 Aug 2020 18:51:25
Well no win that game waythe same drab players look SG has to go its no working and we all can see its no working i said ages ago SG hasn't a clue n i was hung fur it but bet loads of people agree with me now.



17 Aug 2020 19:05:18
2 up top ( won't happen) drop hagi.



17 Aug 2020 19:07:33
Team for killie.
Mcgregor
Jack goldston Balogun kamara
Tavernier barisic
Roofe Hagi Kent
Morelos.



17 Aug 2020 19:21:33
How would you set them up john25.



17 Aug 2020 19:28:06
Exactly way I’ve written it. Jack rb kamara lb.
folk say too defensive these two so play them in position they cover.



17 Aug 2020 19:52:47
Jack at RB? Tav DM that’s the biggest laugh I have had in ages.



17 Aug 2020 20:02:43
Oh dear.



17 Aug 2020 20:03:16
Mcglaughlan, goldson, edmudson, hellander, Patterson, jack, aribo, Kent, barasic, Cedric, roofs. 352.



17 Aug 2020 20:05:18
😂😂😂.



17 Aug 2020 20:11:55
kJ how everyone moaning jack and kamara don’t go forward enough. Too defensive, so play them as defenders.
Barisic is a left back but was our most forward player in last two games.
As for tav dm loads on here want him to play further forward so I’m giving them what they want.



17 Aug 2020 20:13:50
My team against kilmarnock on saturday would be-
Mcgregor
Tav
Goldson
Balogun
Barisic
Jack
Arfield
Aribo
Roofe
Itten
Kent.



17 Aug 2020 20:26:35
SGL arfield should be nowhere near the team IMHO.



17 Aug 2020 20:26:52
Drop morelos bring him on as a super sub, let the new guys have an hour at least.



17 Aug 2020 20:35:18
SGL not bad, mb not arfield mb Davis.



17 Aug 2020 20:40:53
Tavernier at DM? You're having a laugh! You need discipline in there, sniff out danger, track runners, read the game etc! Tavernier has none of these abilities! I doubt he could read a book.



17 Aug 2020 20:43:18
Steven Davis still has his qualities as a midfielder no doubt about that but i truly think gerrard will pick and choose carefully, the games davo starts in John25.



17 Aug 2020 20:48:21
Definitely got to be 2 up top.



17 Aug 2020 20:53:17
King Walter we don’t need dm according to plenty here, I’d play tav and barisic in a six up front 😂.



17 Aug 2020 21:05:54
Mcglaughlan
Goldson. Edmundson. Balogun.



Tav Aribo. Jack Barisic.

Kent


Morelos. Roofe.



17 Aug 2020 21:13:32
McGregor
Tav
Goldson
Balogun
Barasic
Jack
Aribo
Davis
Roofe
Morelos
Kent.



17 Aug 2020 21:17:15
Blue bear SG won’t play edmundson just can’t see it.



17 Aug 2020 21:25:15
McLaughlin

Tav
Goldson
Balogun
Barasic

Kamara
Jack
Aribo
Kent

Ltten
Morelos

The big lad needs to start as expect Tav, Kent and Barasic to continue to supply decent crosses.



17 Aug 2020 21:41:41
That's my line up as well Bankie 👍.



17 Aug 2020 21:43:38
KjA9. I agree SG won’t play the fridge but I think he deserves a chance. Hellander gives me the fear sometimes.



17 Aug 2020 22:11:03
McLaughlin

Paterson Goldson Balogun Barisic

Jack


Aribo Kent

Roofe

Itten Morelos

That’s my team if we’re fully fit Go for the throat win the game by the hour mark and then bring in Davis, Arfield and the like.



17 Aug 2020 22:17:46
Would like to see JJ brought back into the team, ideal player for these games.



17 Aug 2020 22:28:41
Bankie - I like the look of that line up. However we can all have our fun and see what we can come up with, but we all know it'll be exactly the same 4-3-3 of

McLaughlin
Tav Goldson Balogun Barasic
Jack Kamara Aribo
Hagi Morelos Kent

Arfield will be in again for Aribo if he's not fit.



17 Aug 2020 22:29:21
Good few bites in that thread John mate 🤣.



17 Aug 2020 22:50:14
McLaughlin

Tav Goldson Balogun Barasic

Jack

Aribo Hagi Kent

Itten Roofe.



17 Aug 2020 23:38:29
Changes from Sunday I hope will be
IN Aribo and Itten
OUT Hagi and Morelos
If Tav and Barasic deliver same amount of crosses and movement is better in the box, with front post runs we will score a few from their delivery.
Roofe isn’t ready to start a game yet, fitness wise he’s still playing catch up.



18 Aug 2020 08:40:36
Snell was thinking that myself, the FIFA guys dived straight in.



17 Aug 2020 17:47:58
Kamberi was the striker we badly needed yesterday.



17 Aug 2020 18:25:44
Fantastic striker, actually has technical ability.



17 Aug 2020 18:56:33
Blue would do. U r at the wind up lol.



17 Aug 2020 19:16:03
Oh dear BkueWouldDo! You constantly slate Morelos but he has scored more in 2 season's than Kamberi has scored in his full career! 🤦😂😂😂😂.



17 Aug 2020 19:47:54
I thought by now everyone would have caught on to bluewoulddo, he's so obviously a dark side troll.



17 Aug 2020 20:19:16
The covenanter what's your view on many of our supporters on here calling for steven gerrard's head this early mate? 🤔If he doesn't win the league/ or any silverware for that matter, that should be the decision time for our supporters and the club in general, don't you think? Would you prefer to change the manager mate and if so who would you go all out to get to replace gerrard as rangers manager? 🤔.



17 Aug 2020 20:19:23
Yes Covenanter, I am not going to reply to his crap in future.



17 Aug 2020 22:05:34
Give him credit, he was a decent player in Scotland.



17 Aug 2020 22:07:51
Would of been a low risk signing for us also.



18 Aug 2020 04:38:44
BWD you where on here before the league was stopped slating the guy for not scoring!



17 Aug 2020 17:25:59
I think 400k for the doc is selling ourselves short. Hearing even less for mcrorie if the sheep buy him after loaning him. The mere mention of us signing/ looking at a sheep player and they add about 70% on the players value.



17 Aug 2020 17:35:21
Totally agree Bathgate. I’m told low fees and big sell on clause. Ie 20-25%.
Yet people talk 2-4 million for Ferguson. I see both our lads worth about 750k.
It’s about reducing wage bill.



17 Aug 2020 23:41:11
Doc 400k and McCrorie 350K is what’s being spoken of with sell on fee clause but no first refusal buy back.



17 Aug 2020 16:39:17
Alright guys

Just want to see what the feeling in the camp is regarding dropping Morelos for the Kilmarnock game.

I would in my opinion purely to mix it up and having brought in two new strikers. I always found it hard coming on off the bench to make an impact and I really think Kilmarnock will shape up the exact same way Livingstone did.

I don't think Gerrard will because although this season I think he's been good last year hot or cold he would not drop Goldson.

I think we look great defensively btw and actually like Jack and Kamara in the middle together. Don't think Hagi has been great but I don't think his best position is wide right coming inside.

Also on Morelos I think he's a real good player but I like my strikers to be in the box.



17 Aug 2020 16:51:16
Should be benched, his form this year has been nothing short of embarrassing in all honesty. Can't see the manager doing that though.



17 Aug 2020 16:56:22
Goldson has started the season very very well.



17 Aug 2020 16:58:56
Morelos has an excellent regard against killie. The two new guys need minutes. Mb closed door game this week will help them.



17 Aug 2020 17:50:37
I want to see how itten will do as I am 50/ 50 on wether he will work or not.
Roofe am sure will be a good player and must better than hagi in that position.

SG has wasted a lot of money on players his signing record is shocking to be fair.

I know he won’t but I would play 442 against Kille with fredo and itten up top.



17 Aug 2020 19:52:39
Your right KJA9

His signings have been shocking

Think I’ve asked the question many times without an answer

Is it down to Gerrard - is it the scouting team somewhere along the line there is a problem?

Where does that main problem lie - Gerrard door or the scouting team door
Or the the past football director mark allen?



17 Aug 2020 20:29:17
Thestigno1 where u not rating 1 of the signings at 10 mil 3 days ago in Kamara Borna worth 20 mil bought for if I remember 1.5 mil and this seasons singings I take are classed as not good enough?



17 Aug 2020 20:29:22
The stig I wouldn’t get rid of SG right now can’t get rid 4 games in but saying that do I think we will win the league as him as manager it’s unfortunately a no as I said before the season started he doesn’t learn from past mistakes.

I have no idea who we get to replace that’s why I ain’t shouting for his head but it’s going to be a long season.



17 Aug 2020 22:45:27
Bluebell 15

Check my posts never have I ever said Kamara is a 10m player ever

Borna I like yes and worth his weight

But come on lad, he’s had over 30 players brought to the club
How many millions profit have we made

How many trophy’s

Going round in circles on here

Everyone who is for him jumps on silly things instead of coming out and giving the facts of why he’s doing so well
Transfers what profit have we made from his transfers since he’s been here .
And why he should stay considering we have won nothing and still deploying same old tactics against same old teams and dropping same points year after year


Do you know what don’t reply

No one ever gives a straight answer

Yesterday was enough for me too stay we’re going to have same results as past two seasons
Even before lockdown we were well off the pace and never catching them

4 games in and already showing no bottle.



18 Aug 2020 09:00:10
Sorry my bad must have been different debate haha! And u are right the frustration is there the reason my frustration is there we seem too take 3 steps forward and 2 steps back but it’s the first steps we have took foward in years within the last season, if we sell the players he’s brought for the money spent imo we would be in profit down to Barasic mainly which some might no see as a positive due to the point u made of the amount of players brought . finally I will be sticking with him and the team until if a point comes where the league can’t be won this season he was brought here to stop 10 iar imo that can still be achieved.



17 Aug 2020 16:17:56
Any other day bornas free kick sails in the back of the net just wasn't our day yestarday and livingstone defended For there life's my only critasim is our overplaying at times have a crack from outside the box how many times we seen games won with a wonder strike and on the manager front most ones people say we should go for we simply can't afford them and stevie g has attracted players to rangers with his reputation alone we can't deny that.



17 Aug 2020 16:53:44
Of our midfielders only Docherty has the ability to shoot powerfully from outside the box.



17 Aug 2020 17:27:25
aye bankie and it looks like he is out the door. I have always thought that Docherty is the perfect midfielder for scottish football. Powerful, Athletic and Skillful. For some reason he doesn't seem to fit in with Steven Gerrard's plans. I for one will miss the lad, and wish him all the luck in the world.



17 Aug 2020 17:31:46
I too sit screaming "shoot " at the TV when we get in good positions outside the box, Considering that's where a lot of Gerrards goals came from in his career I'm surprised we haven't seen more of this from our team.



17 Aug 2020 17:36:54
Agree Scotty, in training jack should shoot at every opportunity when 20 yds out.
He can only get better.



17 Aug 2020 17:51:30
Bankie jack scored a couple from outside the box it’s a ridiculous comment to say he is the only one with power to score from outside the box.



17 Aug 2020 16:11:10
I hope to god we don't sell borna barisic,
but worse case scenario if we accepted an offer we just couldn't refuse we have to replace him with a class left back. Imo if barisic were to be sold we should move to try and sign gent's iranian left back milad mohammadi, he's terrific and fast!



17 Aug 2020 16:59:49
Ughelumba is the answer at lb.



17 Aug 2020 17:32:25
I believe he's going to a club in belgium John25.



17 Aug 2020 17:45:41
Coops, think you’ve taken the bait.



17 Aug 2020 18:01:59
SGL why would he move so quick to another club, only moved on July 1.



17 Aug 2020 18:26:42
SGL doesn’t know he’s our player 🤣🤣🤣 GOING TO BELGIUM, ahahaha.



17 Aug 2020 18:58:48
I’m saying nothing, rather embarrassing. The boy came out ten days ago and says he wants club to use his correct surname, hence change in team lines.



17 Aug 2020 19:06:52
would take barry douglas or dallas in replacement. Dallas slotted in well at lefr back for leeds last year.



17 Aug 2020 20:24:57
Hands up guys i actually thought John25 was talking about the leicester guy but he's a right back.



17 Aug 2020 20:36:58
Least u put hands up SGL, we can all make a wee ricket now and again.



17 Aug 2020 20:37:50
Paul 86 both guys you name would be assets to rangers, hard as nails.



17 Aug 2020 20:53:50
If you don't mind me asking John25,
where did you hear/ read, that rangers are linked with man utd and wales right winger daniel james mate 🤔.



17 Aug 2020 22:24:08
It was on here before plus I follow United. We r reputed to have asked if he would be available on loan as he will struggle for games next year.
It’s very unlikely to happen in my opinion. but we can dream. We have to find that quality of player somehow.
Whether it be James Olsen, Murphy. We need someone who takes players on.



17 Aug 2020 15:54:06
Seems rangers are very much focused on getting rid of some of our wingers that steven gerrard just doesn't rate. We most definitely imo need a class right winger and rangers are linked heavily with both skov olsen and newcastle utd winger jacob murphy. I rate both these wingers although if I had the choice i'd prefer skov olsen! 👌
I think gerrard needs to shift some wingers out the door, before he can move for the class right winger he craves. Gerrard and wilson actively trying to move out jamie murphy, greg stewart, jordan jones and possibly brandon barker, glen middleton, to lighten our squad and make way for a class starting 11 right winger!



17 Aug 2020 16:04:55
sgl its alright getting rid of players who are not good enough, but mcrorie, docherty, and murphy to the two mankiest waster clubs in the spfl, ie scumdee utd, the sheep and hull, will be a loss on all three of them, will be sold for peanuts, we are not now a selling club but a charity club, can't believe we are dealing with these clubs.



17 Aug 2020 16:21:06
I agree with you truebluesotrue in regards to selling/ loaning any of our players to these 2 absolute scummy clubs ie. abaaaadeen and scumdee utd. I would give them f**k all!



17 Aug 2020 17:33:29
I disagree with you SGL. I would gladly give these two clubs a smell of my sunday morning fart, after a good curry the night before. A wee bit too much information methinks 🤣.



17 Aug 2020 17:53:42
SGL you seem to rate every player we are rumoured to go for

Olsen I would take in a heart beat Murphy not seen enough of him

We definitely need a winger or two and a Powerfull box to box midfielder.

Not a fan of helander and never will be am quicker than him.



17 Aug 2020 18:29:49
KJA9 yes he does! He’s probably hardly watched either of them. But his “sources“ have probably told him. 😂
M O O N H O W L E R!



17 Aug 2020 19:11:09
kJ I think we need three more in if Alf leaves.
RB. RW attacking mid Mb another mid on loan depending who leaves.
A name I heard today was James on loan Man Utd.



17 Aug 2020 15:23:31
6th October 2019. Livingston 2 Celtic 0. Have we all forgotten that? Is it such a disaster to have only drawn yesterday? There is no way Rangers (or Celtic) are going to win every game this season. Points will be dropped. Stop all this negative nonsense and be patient and get behind our team and manager!



17 Aug 2020 16:02:54
C Orrect doiger, a voice of reason amid all the hysteria.



17 Aug 2020 16:16:08
Aye it’s a disaster, same old rangers as past few years, can’t break teams down ego sit in we could have put huge pressure on on celtic with a big points gap to bridge. And fu@@@ng Brandon Barker u having why has he even got a squad number.



17 Aug 2020 16:27:01
Doiger spot on 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇦🇺⚽️😎👍.



17 Aug 2020 16:30:46
You always make a lot of sense Doiger. People who come on here and say Celtic would have done this and that etc - are they not aware of what happened to them last October at Livi, or even last week at Killie? , some people want SG sacked and these are some of the same ones that didn't want Pedro to leave. Unbelievable.



17 Aug 2020 16:33:48
Too early for the positivity Doiger.
All the weans haven't collected the toys they threw out the prams after yesterday! 🤣👍👀.



17 Aug 2020 17:40:22
Deemc22, Supported the Gers since I was a little lad, and I want everyone in a blue shirt to do well, but I have never seen Barker offer anything, despite the reports of him being unplayable in training. Frustrating but every time he comes on I think "maybe it'll be today " - I still can't fathom out what he's supposed to be doing on the park!



17 Aug 2020 17:55:00
2-0 Celtic Livingston is irrelevant if you want bury your head in the sand then so be it.

Same rangers as 2nd half of season yesterday FACT.

That team with that formation will not win the league.



17 Aug 2020 14:33:29
I wish nothing but the best of luck, for our 2 departing midfielders ross mccrorie and greg docherty, as both deserve to be playing first team football for some club! I just wish however the mccrorie wasn't going up to sign for abaaaadeen, as i totally despise that football club! I wouldn't give that mob the reek from my 💩! Looks like doc is signing for hull city for 400k and i wish him all the very best at hull city 👍I hear also that scumdee utd want our winger jamie murphy,
again i wouldn't give them the reek from my 💩! I would honestly keep jamie murphy at rangers 🙏.



17 Aug 2020 15:48:04
If the manager does not rate a player or want him little point in us keeping them. We r not rolling in money.



17 Aug 2020 16:00:01
John25 that's not what i'm meaning/ saying here mate! I'm all for these players that gerrard deems surplus to requirements, to go to a club as they deserve to be playing first team football, but i would prefer them going down to england and not to the sheep or scumdee utd mate, that's all! We all know how vocal these pair of scumbags were against our club, i've not forgotten and hate the sight of them and their stoneage supporters!



17 Aug 2020 16:32:49
I'd rather we did not deal with either the sheep or that other mob, however as long as they are not being allowed to leave on the cheap, I'll just need to suck it up.



17 Aug 2020 16:47:38
SGL if your employer does not want you, would u go down south.
Mccrorie now has four offers two in Scotland two abroad.
He decides where he goes not a manager who is worried about fan back lash.



17 Aug 2020 17:09:51
Seeker definitely leaving on cheap, mccrorie less than400 k.
I think his agent is looking at bit of payback with Rangers, May be wrong.



17 Aug 2020 17:38:00
John25,i wouldn't sell to any of those 2 clubs and that's it for me pal! I'm quite sure there's better clubs wanting ross mccrorie than aberdeen mate. Was portsmouth and fleetwood not also interested in signing ross mccrorie? 🤔.



17 Aug 2020 17:56:43
100% correct John.
Rangers don’t decide where a player goes the players does simple as that.



17 Aug 2020 19:00:32
SGL where r the better teams, also once we accept a fee player decides where he goes.
Tray or playing with us.



17 Aug 2020 19:01:20
Fleetwood better than Aberdeen your having a laugh.



17 Aug 2020 19:16:12
Not technically true kja9 as he is still under contract with us.



17 Aug 2020 20:22:08
Splitting hairs rangers have said we will sell them, they now decide who they sign for if price is met.



17 Aug 2020 14:22:50
Some people on here are unbelievable. Loads of comments that have been posted are ridiculous. You know who you are. People need to calm the F down. We are 4 games into the season and have not been beat or lost a single goal. You would think we are sitting bottom of the league.



17 Aug 2020 15:48:29
Well said c of ibrox.



17 Aug 2020 15:50:01
Well said 👏
The usual suspects just waiting to pounce after a disappointing performance where the players dominated but lacked a wee bit composure and creativity in front of goals but blame it on tactics🤦 and Tav being captain 🤦 as usual. 👀.



17 Aug 2020 16:05:10
It’s crazy lads. We were all disappointed and everyone is entitled to their opinion of the game and how it went but some people are just going over board. Don’t give the Tims reason to get their heads up.



17 Aug 2020 16:29:35
We've seen this garbage for the past few years, could care less how many games in we are. Can't seem to eradicate the slackness.



17 Aug 2020 16:34:34
It"s unbelievable. All the same ones that hardly say a cheep when things are looking good, as soon as there is a bump on the road, suddenly the world has ended.



17 Aug 2020 16:54:56
I agree with everything you've said cofibrox.



17 Aug 2020 17:16:14
Great post c of Ibrox🇬🇧✌️.



17 Aug 2020 14:18:00
Disappointed with the result yesterday didn't move the ball quick enough and missed that we spark, that is t going to e the only game like that we play this season. You can't expect us to win every game so let's look at the brightside, top of the league and still not conceded a goal.



17 Aug 2020 14:03:38
Can't believe some saying it's a point, a clean sheet, that's loser mentality we are rangers we should never be happy with a point every draw should feel like a defeat we need that kind of winners mentality.



17 Aug 2020 15:20:20
So we must win every game we play this season? Get real!



17 Aug 2020 15:53:23
And when did Rangers ever go through a season without dropping points?
Get off your entitlement horse. 3 points have to earned. We didn't do enough in the final third to win the game but were solid enough at the back to keep the clean sheet and earn the point.



17 Aug 2020 16:32:50
Yeah delighted with the point, team was unlucky. More nonsense, club seem to be spending big with little reward.



17 Aug 2020 18:40:02
So guys above

Walter smith - souness etc would be happy with result yesterday

And happy with results past seasons?

Don’t talk absolute Crap 💩

We spend millions compare to livingstone so he we are entitled to win that game with the players we have

If they can’t win games like this THEY shouldn’t be here and neither should the manger who has won us what again What’s that silence?



17 Aug 2020 18:41:02
It’s not the loosing mentality no one went into the game saying a point will do - it’s frustrating but people saying same old and Gerrard not the man for the job those people will be happy to see us drop points to come on here and say I TOLD YOU SO.



17 Aug 2020 12:53:13
So everyone on here moaning about the manager who do you's want to replace Gerrard that will come in and as you's all seem to expect win every game never concede a goal every signing is world class and every decision they make will be the right one because that's what people seem to think we should be doing everyweek on here.



17 Aug 2020 13:11:10
If Gerrard goes then we must go and get an experienced manager who is tactically astute and doesn't keep making the same mistakes over and over again. 👍.



17 Aug 2020 13:15:21
Don't see anyone saying they expect that. Same as the other post saying why don't we disband because folk are calling out celebrating a clean sheet against Livi. Are totally within our rights to call out a team that plays the same way and has the same issues for two seasons against one very specific style of play. Actually can't believe some quoting "we would have lost that game last season" almost passing off a nil nil as a positive. A one off bad game I get and wouldn't s**t the bed. A bad game where the same frailties of the past few seasons are still clear is different.



17 Aug 2020 13:17:43
I agree Sm87 although it was and I am disappointed we didn't take all 3 points it's not as if we didn't try and what about anti football Livingston to a man they just stuck to there plan and not one of them made an error we could have capitalised on.
So another clean sheet top of the table and we move on. wrtp.



17 Aug 2020 13:47:45
Totally agree Brycey, their defence was awesome.



17 Aug 2020 14:30:08
Once again Snell, please direct me to where anyone says they are celebrating a clean sheet. Simple fact is we kept a clean sheet in a game where last season we may have conceded and lost the game. I will say again, i am not happy with the result yesterday but it could have been zero points instead of one.



17 Aug 2020 14:31:06
Coldo mate. Who would you like to see as Manager if SG did go. ( To which I don’t think will happen at this moment in time) 1 He would have to be able to attract a better caliber of player, 2 Would likely need more funds, 3 Be willing to drop players who underperform. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇦🇺⚽️😎👍.



17 Aug 2020 15:12:48
I'd go with van bronkhorst cunny. However there might be better available. We couldn't afford anymore gamble's or projects or apprenticeships whatever you want to call it👍.



17 Aug 2020 15:27:22
With pleasure MOCBear. Just listen to the managers after match interview where he says he is pleased with a clean sheet. Also if you read a post of 17th August at 9:47 it is clearly quoted "bit of a positive we kept a clean sheet"

Sound familiar mate?



17 Aug 2020 15:30:12
True Coldo. If it happens we need someone with a track record and is not afraid to kick some ass. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇦🇺⚽️😎👍.



17 Aug 2020 15:50:29
Coldo u keep saying this, van bronkhurst on three million a year how do we afford his salary and that of his coaching team.



17 Aug 2020 15:55:11
Yes snell it does sound familiar. Any clean sheet in any football match is a positive. Its hardly a celebration saying keeping a clean sheet is a positive. Come on man gimme a break here surely any team sets out and tries not to concede any goals. If that's not the case then I've been getting it wrong all these years.



17 Aug 2020 15:59:20
Van Bronckhorst🤔😂😂😂
Aye because he'll leave the riches of China to come to Scotland.



17 Aug 2020 16:09:14
how much is gerrard an co on, not working for peanuts methinks.



17 Aug 2020 17:24:09
Aye I get that mate. I am just disappointed we are talking of positives after a really poor show, especially the fact the gaffer referenced it after match. Sure il calm down in a day or two, just gutted at the showing yesterday and the fact it's the same short comings of last season. Sorry if I came across as a bit of a pr*ck.



17 Aug 2020 17:26:13
Gerrard on about one million. Big bonuses re Europe and winning league.



17 Aug 2020 17:52:48
No need to apologise Snell and you didn't come across as a pr##k. Healthy debate and differing opinions are good mate. I like your passion bro.



17 Aug 2020 19:03:32
Snell, your posts r good, u certainly not a prick. That’s for others.



17 Aug 2020 19:21:39
Spot on Modbear. A clean sheet is obviously a positive. That's all the boss is saying. He doesn't follow that up by saying it was a good result. Two completely different things.



17 Aug 2020 12:49:46
I think we should be looking at the boy Josh Doig from hibs as a potential replacement for when Borna inevitably moves on at the end of the season. Obviously we have Bassey, however this kid is a prospect which we will hear a lot more about as the season progresses and will attract interest from premier league sides.



17 Aug 2020 11:38:45
Hi
Yes I am disappointed, but we all know how hard it can be breaking down teams that park the bus.

My main gripe is how slow we were going forward and never tried to mix it up, we looked more like scoring when we got desperate near the end throwing long balls into the box.

If it is not working try something different and go at them from the first whistle, don't wait till its too late.

We played from back to front too much and our keeper never tried the long ball.

We lick our wounds and move on, keep the faith.



17 Aug 2020 11:59:01
Correct.
For me Jack and Kamara were too pedestrian in dictating the pace of the game at the start and should have been moving the ball forward a lot quicker.
In the end it was the opposite with everything all a bit rushed and no quality balls up to Itten.
And Kent blew a glorious chance at the end.
But let’s all blame Tav being captain 😂😂😂.



17 Aug 2020 13:20:11
Jack and Kamara are there to cover Tav and Borna when they go forward however against teams who park the bus and we know who will not attack, I don't see the need for 2 defensive midfielders. As a poster said above, we looked more dangerous when we started firing balls into the box in the last 10 mins with Roofe and Itten. Had we done that from the off with 2 up, I'm confident we would have won that.



17 Aug 2020 14:52:19
It depends on the quality of the balls. 👍
And why spend money on Kent, Hagi, Aribo etc if we're just going to miss the midfield out and play route one football for 90 minutes.
It was ONE game! Only made worse by 2 facts. Celtic dropped points away to Killie and they've been banned from playing for a couple if weeks and posters on here got all excited about a potential points gap instead of taking it one game at a time. 👍.



17 Aug 2020 11:17:56
Let's see what next weekend brings. The Gers at home to Killie and the other mob at Tannadice. That won't be an easy game for them. Why not play an old-fashioned 2-3-5?

McLaughlin; Tavernier, Barisic; Jack, Goldson, Balogun; Aribo, Arfield, Itten, Roofe, Kent

Could be as good as:
Ritchie, Shearer, Caldow; Greig, McKinnon, Baxter; Henderson, McMillan, Millar, Brand, Wilson

I wish!



17 Aug 2020 11:06:25
We didn't play a back 4 yesterday. Tav and Barasic starting position was in Livi half, almost like wingers, that's why we played "2 holding mids" Jack was the deeper compared to Kamara who joined with play in the more forward phase. So we pretty much played a back 3 . I don't know why folk can't see this and continually go on about starting with a back 4 and having 2 holding mids?!?! It was a lack of creativity that caused us and Morelos movement is now worrying, he rarely makes a front post run or any kind of run that will influence the team. He needs shifting ASAP. Hagi is the new whipping boy and I agree hasn't been at it but it's an over reaction after a handful of games, he maybe needs rotated.



17 Aug 2020 15:00:48
Scotty123 thank goodness someone else can see and understand what is going on with the setup of the team. Most of them on here prefer to give 'points' for performance like they are Keech Jackson or somebody, and try to pass that off as 'knowledge'. Others pick their wee teams like Football Manager, while the Fickle Loyal will criticise us no matter what the performance is like.
Anyway, you are correct in saying a lack of creativity was our main issue, borne out by the absence of our best creative player, Aribo. Kent has great feet and few brains, Hagi right now is struggling badly and Morelos is anonymous, mostly hiding behind defenders and hardly ever offering himself for the ball. I said last week our defence looks solid enough, now we have to introduce those new boys to the team and freshen up our attacking options.



17 Aug 2020 15:52:21
On the button covenanter.



17 Aug 2020 11:02:22
McLaughlin 6,tavernier 5,barasic 6,goldson 6.5,hellander 5,Jack 5kamara6 Hagi 3,Kent 5.5,Arfield 5.5,Morelos 5 would have kept Arfield on only because he was making positive runs into the box and can score. Would have taken either jack or Kamara off after 20 mins as you could see how the game was going, we didn't need them both as they don't have a creative bone in their bodies between them. Mind you is that no what Hagi is for? He would have been off after 20 minutes. Missed Aribo he can go at their defence and caus havoc. Kent to me is an out and out winger, he seems to be trying to play number 10 now. Had barasic scored it would only have covered the cracks. Is the starting 11 any better this season? I say no.



17 Aug 2020 11:21:11
Helander 5? Why?



17 Aug 2020 14:53:23
5.5's😂😂😂.



17 Aug 2020 15:04:47
bgate w so we should have made 2 substitutions in the first 20 minutes, Helander was poor and you wouldn't have taken a winning goal because it would merely paper over the cracks. That's your take on things, okay.



17 Aug 2020 10:40:40
Gerrard is full of life for matches against Celtic or in Europe. Directing the players and urging them on.
Against every other club in Scotland he sits on his a**e and offers no inspiration whatsoever. His captain is even less inspiring. Sick of it now.

Gerrard more or less has own team of his own signing's now but we lack winners/ leaders on the Park and we are clueless at breaking down teams that park the bus. Why play two defensive players against Livingston. It was a huge risk appointing a youth coach as Rangers manager for me.



17 Aug 2020 11:03:37
Or one ST up top, he's had long enough to work it out but yet keeps making the same mistakes. 100% agree niceday👍.



17 Aug 2020 13:06:40
But he didn't sit on his arse all game and he played two up front.



17 Aug 2020 13:07:44
Got to agree lads, he has not learned.
Next game against Kille should be identical with them sitting in so let's see what we do differently if anything.
I don't expect SG to be sacked or to leave this early in the season, or even during the season for that matter unless we have another meltdown. If things don't go as hoped then I do hope the board review his position as I have said before he has taken the club as far as he can.



17 Aug 2020 10:28:43
Gerrard has only 1 season left if he fails this season. So let's support him till that day. If he wins the league he'll be a hero. If not goodbye Mr Gerrard and thanks for the effort. If he loffted that cup at end of the season and said goodbye. I would be happy with that.



17 Aug 2020 09:59:38
4 games into the season and this site descends into the usual poison and laughable know it all posts after 1 game where some posters seem to think we have the devine right to become "invincibles" over a full domestic season!
First up the predictable poison aimed at Gerrard from the tactical geniuses on this site who wouldn't know a formation if it was written down on a piece of paper and stuck up their arse!
Did Gerrard's tactics make Kent miss a golden chance at the end? Did his tactics make Kent constantly run into people with the ball?
Did his tactics make Barisic, Kent, Tav waste countless cross balls and corners?
We weren't good enough in the final third yesterday - it happens.
We go again and I've every faith the players mentioned above will deliver in the next game.
Now onto the laughable. The fans who've written off Hagi. A young talent. Probably the same fans who were quick to judge Barisic.
And even more laughable - the Fairweather fans who've written off the title after 4 games.
In the words of 4lads - ignore the nonsense, irrelevant and the noise.
Looks like it applies to some of our own. 👍👀.



17 Aug 2020 10:31:41
MrPotatoHead, you have hit the nail on the head, I criticised the slow nature of our play in my post, and also Morelos for not moving the defenders around enough to allow the space needed up front, I agree to call for a Managers head because we've drawn a match after 4 games is ridiculous.

Everyone has an opinion, but I, like you, would question why certain individuals show the attitude they do, I would think that very few of us are qualified coaches, some maybe, but the closest others will come to being a coach is, and this is an old one, lol, 'to take their teeth out, and put 42 seats in', no offence intended folks, just a light-hearted look at things. We will get there, we need to forget about Celtic, and just get on with improving our own stats.



17 Aug 2020 10:42:11
Couldn’t have put it much better 👏🏻.



17 Aug 2020 10:50:36
The title is not over after 4 games but winning yesterday was a must to put pressure back on Celtic and the players or manager failed miserably so who do we blame for that.
Our midfield is our biggest problem yet one of our good youngsters can not get a game in there and is ready to move on to another team.
Are jack and kamara miles better than mccorie i would say certainly not.
Our midfield has been poor for last two seasons yet our manager seems to keep picking them we are not going win a title unless drastic changes are made to the midfield.



17 Aug 2020 11:54:16
Yes they r better than Mccrorie.



17 Aug 2020 09:45:30
If his name wasn't Hagi there would be nowhere near the amount of admiration for him by most on here.

He's been a passenger so far this season.
Not much better than Barker is Hagi.



17 Aug 2020 10:10:13
If his name wasn't gerrard.



17 Aug 2020 10:31:22
You’re probably one of the “fans” that never gave Barisic a chance but now wants £25 million for him if we sell him🤔🤪.



17 Aug 2020 09:15:23
Morning bears, terrible show yesterday hope we have all calmed down I have. Just. Not making excuses but that's football, yes the players are paid a lot of money to perform and ours didn't get memo. My fear is we will drop more points similar to this game later in the season.



17 Aug 2020 09:32:28
We will chunky because gerrard still hasn't learned👍.



17 Aug 2020 09:47:30
Chunky, Coldo, dare I say it but that was a game yesterday where we would have potentially lost last year. Total domination without creating much and then get hit on the break and lose 1-0. We seen it last year a few times so its a bit of a positive that we kept that clean sheet. Who knows it could even be a vital point come the end of the season. i'm honestly not trying to be the eternal optimist and take a positive from that yesterday just for of it but we move onto the next game still having zero goals conceded. For me our big problem is our movement in the final third. I tried to pay attention to that yesterday and lots of players just running towards the ball and showing to feet. 3/ 4 players all making the same run makes it exceptionally easy for the opposition to mark. A couple of teams when Morelos came in short we seen Arfield run into the space created but the pass was overhit but its that type of run from Arfield we need to see from more players more often. Arfield didn't play well and didn't have a lot of touches but his running off the ball is good and he seems to be the one from midfield that's willing to go past the strikers. Just my observations lads.



17 Aug 2020 09:54:02
If a 0-0 at livi is a bit of a positive moc then we should just chuck it. Honest to god🤦‍♂️👍.



17 Aug 2020 09:54:37
If we are celebrating clean sheets against Livi then sorry let's just call it a day.



17 Aug 2020 09:59:06
I tend to agree MOC, l was watching that yesterday thinking we could lose a breakaway goal similar to last season.
We still seem to be unable to break down teams that build a wall
Do you think Aribo was a big miss?



17 Aug 2020 10:17:58
Totally agree MOC Bear, Arfield was the only midfielder trying to run behind but, unfortunately, he’s not got enough pace. Two holding midfielders was never required yesterday and all Kamara and Jack (in particular) did was slow the game down even more with their sideways or back passes to defenders. Formation wise, I’d like us to try 3-4-3 against these teams. We only need one CDM and by playing an attack minded midfielder behind a fluid from three and wing backs we could be pulling opposition players out of position instead of them sitting back marking one central striker.



17 Aug 2020 10:25:53
Aribo was definitely a big miss. He seems to be our most creative player at the moment Gger.

Coldo, i'm not saying the whole game was a positive and Snell i'm certainly not "celebrating" a nil nil with Livingston. i'm only saying that had the defence not been as solid to start this season we could have lost that game as we did so often last season.



17 Aug 2020 10:35:43
Okay you guys that have said let's call it a day, let's do that and resign from the SFA and the SPFL, and sell Ibrox, and de-register all the players, after all, there's no point in Rangers FC continuing according to some on here. How would you feel if that happened.



17 Aug 2020 10:48:00
Going to Livi with tactics a pitch like that was always going to be tough. Our creative players had an off day and yes we definitely missed Aribo. We have no divine right to win games and I expect we will drop more points over course of season as will Celtic. The over reaction is incredible.



17 Aug 2020 11:48:30
Well said Irvger.



17 Aug 2020 09:05:16
Need more creative players. Never looked like scoring yesterday. Best chance from set pieces. Not good enough. Hopefully a minor blip. Move on and hopefully learn from it. Barker hopeless. I could play better than him. Keep it real gers fans we are the people.



17 Aug 2020 09:55:46
Let’s be honest, nothing is going to change under this manager. He’s continually standing by players that are letting him down when it really matters.
Spunking 3m on Hagi is criminal.



17 Aug 2020 08:24:10
OK yesterday was frustrating but people severely over reacting.
Why do people continue to blame Tav? Ryan jack is playing like a 3rd CB now and him n kamara just didn't work. Jack hasn't become a bad player over night.
Yes we missed aribo. hagi has had a slow start this season,
Fk some people are even writing off roofe and Itten already 😂😂. its laughable tbh.

I seen a post and it was
We beat St mirren- wow
We beat St Johnstone -wow
1-0 v Aberdeen. is that not a win at one of the hRdest places to travel to?
Some folk find a negative in everything.

Also, folk blame Gerrard, for those of us who have played at a good. level, infact any level. We know that the set up we have should work v teams IF our big players play to their ability which yesterday too many didn't. So in my eyes its the players to blame, not Gerrard.
But hey ho that's just my opinion. no need to panic just yet. Both sides of the OF will drop points through the season.



17 Aug 2020 08:50:56
Utter pish kri55, you saw the difference when we went 442, proves the issue was tactical and not the players. Folk need to open their eyes👍.



17 Aug 2020 08:57:13
What difference Coldo? We didn’t score mate. Livingston played with a back 6!



17 Aug 2020 08:57:31
OK so explain to me how its Gerrard's fault if he changed it to 442 n it still didn't work? Lol your just ruining your own arguemrnt. Dnt hit me with utter pish either. Your prob someone who's never kicked a ball in your life n realise that players have a big big responsibility, esp when any tactics we play are not defensive. We had enough on that park to win the game. The players failed. But sorry you are a Mr know it all coldo.



17 Aug 2020 09:08:03
Seen a lot of posters still moaning at Goldson getting picked for every game. The man has played well since start of season and deserves his place in the team. He has even brushed up in his passing which used to be appalling. As for the whole team we are going to drop points so will they but the new boys look like they will do well after they settle in.



17 Aug 2020 09:12:23
Kri55, this management team are responsible for those players and that performance. His style of play works well when team come out and have a go, but when a team is camped inside their own half it simply doesn’t work and it’s plain for everyone to see. Therefore if the manager can’t change his system then we will fail yet again.

Or we get a manager that does know how to break these teams down?



17 Aug 2020 09:12:36
Are you's telling me that you's never saw the difference in our play and tempo when we went 442? Gerrard left it far too late. We know these teams play with a back 6 so why are we playing with 1 ST🤔🤦‍♂️ you don't have to kick a ball to know that. Kri55 you are no better educated than anyone else whether you kicked a ball or not😂😂👍.



17 Aug 2020 09:18:30
Agree Jaws, Goldson has been solid as a rock.



17 Aug 2020 09:23:44
Goldson has been great, I thought helander looked dodgey yesterday. 👍.



17 Aug 2020 09:34:08
KRi55

I agree with What Ziko said .


Tell me is it not Gerrard who has brought these players in?

How many players has he brought to the club since he came here?
How much overall in wages and transfers has he spent of the clubs money?

Now tell me how many trophies he’s won?


And also tell us from your apparent professional career
Most of it iOS not down to Gerrard

Is not his job to make sure players are playing to the best every game to get the best out of his players he bought?

Is it not his job to find a suitable tactic and formation to break these teams down? yet year after year has failed to do so?

And at what point do we stop looking at the players and look at the manager and his lack of experience and ability to get his own players playing for him

What excuse can we give for the poor performances after two winter breaks?

What excuse can we give for a lot of his transfers not working out and guys getting let go after picking up hefty wages? Making no real profit from these said players?

What excuses can we give for the performances overall winning nothing and HIs team folds under pressure?

I like him I’ll say it again really nice guy

NOT a rangers manager the job is just to big for him we all know it and some too scared to admit to that now

It’s clear as day the job is far too big for rookie Manager trying to learn his trade
The pressure up here to win games is evidently too much for him and his team to handle
It’s been showing time and time again

There is no excuse for yesterday or for the post winter break last season

We can’t afford to keep letting him spend millions and having no end product

And we can’t afford not too take Celtic right to the wire this season His time is up in my opinion

He does not have experience to know how to change it and infuse belief into his team or possibly doesn’t have the. bottle to kick arses when it’s needed

Time is up for him and I guarantee you I’m my unprofessional opinion we will win nothing under Steven Gerrard
My mind is made up on it the fact now

I’ll still support. But merchandise and support the team but I know we’re not good enough to win this league no winning mentality
If it’s not there last season and yesterday it won’t be here tomorrow under Gerrard

It’s plain to see and it hurts like hell mate.



17 Aug 2020 09:42:02
OK so some are saying he changed the system n some saying he didn't, so your counter acting each other. This shows he can change the system n style but the players still failed to produce? Explain that.

Well coldo if you've played the game at a decent level you understand as a player you can take responsibility on the park n try something different, so yes people who have played the game are more educated you baffoon.



17 Aug 2020 09:42:52
Also those calling for his head, who would you replace Gerrard with? Enlighten me.



17 Aug 2020 09:47:03
Great and honest comment stingo. But keep the faith. Need a creative player to unlock defences. And I think we can go all the way to 55. Ps yesterday was hard to watch. Can't see us dropping points at home. But away is doubtful. Need another signing pronto.



17 Aug 2020 09:51:09
The stig, at what point did I say i had a professional career? Just like most your post you make stuff up.

Gerrard can't physically make a player perform. The players we have and had on the park yesterday are by far good enough to beat Livingston if they play to their potential. they never. Explain to me how that's Gerrard's fault? Its unreal some folks views on how a manager and players work.



17 Aug 2020 09:57:53
How many signings do we need or how much do we spend before we realise the problem is gerrard🤔👍.



17 Aug 2020 10:14:30
I agree with you kri55👍.



17 Aug 2020 10:23:40
Coldo you have a great nack of avoiding questions. The same players you all praise for getting us so far in Europe?
So il ask again, you said Gerrard changed tactics sooooo if neither tactic worked is that not the players?
I love it when players are written off after 4 games 😂😂 class.



17 Aug 2020 10:40:49
Here's a point guys, we have players who cost £millions, shouldn't they show the initiative to change things themselves on the pitch, our great players of the past didn't need a Manager to make them creative on the pitch.



17 Aug 2020 10:41:45
His tactics work in europe because these teams play against us, domestically they don't because teams park the bus and we get found out particularly away from home. Its not hard to understand Kri55. He left it far too late, we were much better when we went 442. He will start 1 up top next week again🤦‍♂️👍.



17 Aug 2020 11:00:56
Coldo you can't have it both ways mate. He changed tactics i think Itten came on about 70mins. Roofe earlier so he changed tactics but it didn't work. still so isn't that the players issue?
Agree we played 2 sitting mids n we didn't need to however some folk on here give the players a free ride, they are. responsible. for how they perform. Same as I am responsible for how I perform at my work, or is that up to my manager?



17 Aug 2020 11:21:08
They give certain players free rides kri55. Is a game against livi not a perfect game for 'the best £7m rangers will ever spend' Kent to step up? 🤔
I do understand the frustration with the result yesterday but that result doesn't mean we can't have a successful league campaign.



17 Aug 2020 11:32:50
Kri 55

What did I make up?

Way I read your previous posts sounded as if you were making out you have played football at some level professionally

Maybe I got that bit wrong

But I answered your questions in post and asked a few of my own?

When do you look a treat he manager?
When would you say?

How much does he have to spend to beat teams like Livi and hearts like last season etc etc

What would you say is Gerrards job?

Does he not pick the team is he not the one to kick arses when there not as you say playing to there full potential

If players are not playing to there full potential is not his job to change those players?

What players did not play to there full potential yesterday and who should he drop and bring in next game?
And who should sit on the bench?

When does the board say Mr Gerrard you have spent a lot of our money we need results and trophy’s in the cabinet

Please can you answer the questions for me so I can see it from your outlook mate.



17 Aug 2020 11:47:15
Jack, kamara, Kent, hagi, Morelos i'd say didn't perform.

I have played semi pro in america yes.

Gerrard picks. the team, Christ me or. you could pick that team n they should have enough to beat Livingstone, but they didn't perform. This has always been my issue, not just with Gerrard or. rangers. Players get it easy n it all falls on the manager when they don't play well.
OK maybe SG could have changed it earlier il give that. But il flip it round, at what point do you make the players shoulder the blame for not performing?
These are. grown men, professional footballers, they shouldn't require a. kick up the ar** to beat Livingston.

On a separate note, the way livi played yesterday would get football stopped and no wonder Scottish football is a laughing stock, teams like that are embarrassing and esp the way they celebrated.



17 Aug 2020 11:55:01
Kri55 he left it far too late to change it, he continues with this 433, 1 up top pish that hasn't worked domestically for 3 years. Why is that so hard to grasp. 👍.



17 Aug 2020 12:46:31
It ain't hard to. grasp coldo but you say he hasn't got a clue tactically but then say he did change it, all be it a bit late. So in my eyes that's a failure on the players part if they fail to carry out two tactical moves.



17 Aug 2020 13:20:00
Far too late to have any impact. That's been gerrard's problem too many times. His stubborness to persevere with his 1 up top will be his downfall Kri55. Fair enough against celtic and in europe where teams play against us but against the rest we should be playing 2 up top. We have stuttered since the start of the season and yesterday when we went 442 you could see that the we were looking more likely to score. Our tempo and play was a lot better. We have the players to win this league they are just not being utilised properly and that is down to the way gerrard sets up. 👍.



17 Aug 2020 14:06:16
We can agree to disagree mate. 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 etc yesterday we had the players on that park at any one given time to be enough to beat Livingston simple as that really.



17 Aug 2020 07:56:14
Morning Bears. Disappointing result yesterday after the start we've had to pre-season and the league.
However, We are top of the league, haven't conceded a goal and are unbeaten. Also, Celtic lost at Livingston last season I seem to recall and they too have already dropped points.

I'm beginning to wish Morelos had gone to Lille. Time to play our new strikers from the start. Also agree Jack OR Kamara, not both. Perhaps we do need McCrorie and Docherty in our squad to add some bite and muscle. Too much namby-pamby passing at times. I thought Tav and Borna put in some very good crosses but nobody took advantage.
Onwards to Saturday at home to Killie while the unwashed are at Tannadice. There's a long way to go.



17 Aug 2020 08:22:07
That’s the problem Doiger, with a long way to go, we have proved we can’t last the pace. Then you see we have accepted a bid from the sheep for big Ross which is a strange one from us😡.



17 Aug 2020 09:08:17
Dont know why they didn't play itten from the start given the amount of cross balls we put in with no height in the box.
Most of them were easily dealt with by Liv defence.



17 Aug 2020 09:35:37
Too easily laudbear

Training session for Livi in basic defending.



17 Aug 2020 09:39:17
Spot on laudbear👍.



17 Aug 2020 07:53:49
Morning Bears

Dust has settled. Frustrated from yesterday but that's what Livingstone, Kilmarnock etc are going to do . They have no intention of trying to win the game . Livingstone best chance was a shot from the half way line.

The most embarrassing thing is this "football game" was live on Skysports so people all over the world would have been watching it . Scottish football

Very much a game of Rangers attack and Livingstone defend .

Still top on the table. Defence look sold personally I think Morelos needs dropped and give a start to either one of the new lads brought in purely to mix it up a bit .



17 Aug 2020 08:24:09
AB, fair play to Livingston and they deserved their point. If you want to be champions it’s your job to break them down🇬🇧✌️.



16 Aug 2020 19:50:48
Ed pole please is it time for a change of coach.



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Rangers Coach poll

17 Aug 2020 10:43:28
Why don't we have a poll, 'Should we have New Fans', it would make as much sense 4 games into a season.



16 Aug 2020 23:55:04
Part of the problems on here is how many times celtic are mentioned in people's posts and aw they will do this or that let's focus on rangers and get behind them we have 2 new attacking players who are bedding in and plenty of time to add to the squad we won't win every game that's just how it is let's be honest our squad was a mess when stevie g took over and he's rebuilding and getting rid of some of the dross we've been tied to due to previous managers I have faith he will bring home some silverware this season.



17 Aug 2020 07:17:41
The main problem is playing 2 defensive midfielders, manager seems scared to change which is worrying.



17 Aug 2020 07:38:52
Agree, both teams struggle against teams that park the bus (livi and Kilmarnock this season so far) . Needs a little bit of luck like a deflection or the ball to fall the right way. The Luvi game away in particular has become really tough for both sides over the past couple of seasons. Desperately unlucky with Borna's free kick and saw enough from Roofe and Itten to think they should fit in after they get some games in. Take a point and move on to Killie next week. Hardly the disaster a lot of people are making it out to be. Just think back to the dark days of Pedro and consider what we might be seeing just now.



17 Aug 2020 07:59:05
Sorry he has had plenty of time and has brought in over 30 players

How many signings does it take and at what cost

The team should be good enough by now to beat Livingston

He’s had plenty of time and plenty of money

It it’s the same thing week on week out against the same opposition in the league it’s not good enough anymore

It’s high time the board now really looked at him his signings the money spent and ask is the tram going forward from past 2 seasons?

It’s went forward since he took over granted - but it’s levelled off and we’re no better from last season
Still no creativity and still no plan b for the teams who sit in

And let’s face it most of the teams we face will sit in

It’s a big problem

Also big problem in my opinion is when little bit of pressure for our team to win a game and put pressure on Celtic
We fail to deliver now every time

We won that game and our next we would be 11 points clear of them and little bit of pressure would have been on them to win. There games there isn’t now and pressure back on us to win our next game and show we can over come teams going forward who sit in

All eyes on rangers now to see if we have learned from past couple seasons if we can indeed break down teams and yesterday was just a blip

I’m not convinced!



17 Aug 2020 08:29:08
No it’s not. It’s totally natural to compare yourself with your closest rivals and it makes not a bit of difference to any final outcome.



17 Aug 2020 09:03:25
my question is why did we still have two holding midfielders still on the park for last twenty mins we didn’t need two Livi offered very little going forward but we should have sacrificed one and put another forward on and flood that box disappointing display for me but let’s not panic we will not win all games and that surface is a problem for us but keep the faith.



17 Aug 2020 09:26:31
We finished the game with Itten, Roofe, Kent, Barker and with Barisic and Tav also bombing forward. Jack and Kamara have more to their game than as holding midfielders and a few times yesterday were trying to link up on the edge of the box. It is always difficult against sides that park the bus and didn't help that they didn't make any mistakes. Normally you can lokk for a deflection or a wee turn off but tbh their defence was superb all game. Sometimes you just can't do anything and have to hope for a wee slice of luck. If Borna's free kick had gone in the forum would this morning would be displaying a totally different dynamic. Fine margins.



16 Aug 2020 23:53:01
Jeeso folk need to calm down. Yes we should have been taking 3 points today. Yes i'm starting to get bored listening to the same post match excuses from our manager. Yes there are players in our team that are stealing a wage. Its too early to panic though. Win our next game and see how celtic get on away at scumdee utd. Things might look a whole lot better by then.



17 Aug 2020 07:21:35
Always get behind team Stevie g and continue to do so in seasons teams play with10 men behind ball and will continue to do so which has cost us with too many drawn games and there will be plenty more games like yesterday . if we don’t find a way of breaking them down then it will be too many drawn games again and we won’t stop 10 in a row.



16 Aug 2020 23:43:51
Been thinking of this one since the game finished and thinking about what some of the comments on here as well, how much do people think our current say first team is now worth imo I would say about 75 mil+ - Borna 20 Alfie 20 (not on today’s performance) Few others 5-6.



16 Aug 2020 23:19:40
Feel too many people are frustrated and rightly so but wasn’t too long ago were on the end of 5-0 defeats . the league is 4 games in we haven’t conceded a goal the worst case senario is we are level on points at the top

It’s a very irregular season ahead more points will be dropped the key will be to have consistency to run the course of the season we have new players getting up to speed the jungle Jim’s have pretty much the same team bar 1-2 players and have dropped points within 2 games hopefully a run of wins until the first old firm they will then feel the pressure!



17 Aug 2020 07:24:24
This is the third in and we are seeing the same mistakes unfortunately, keep blowing chances to put any sort of pressure on. Might only be a few games in but its still not good enough. Really needs to change more, needs to utilize the players better.



16 Aug 2020 23:19:35
Missed the game today, saw the highlights what is going on with the midfield! Jack and Kamara should not be playing in the same team, it's like watching a feckin Scottish dance off Side-side-back. This is driving me nuts. Get a driving mid in quick smart, there must be some gems in the Scandinavian or Baltic leagues at budget prices. What we have now being workmanlike doesn't win leagues. Totally peed off.



17 Aug 2020 06:16:48
Tactics caused the sideways or back pass. 👍.



17 Aug 2020 09:00:27
Coldo we had better chances when we played the 433! Nothing to do with tactics, some players where off their game and a determined 11 players behind the ball caused the draw! I personally think we played worse when we went 442.



16 Aug 2020 23:07:05
We lacked a bit of quality in the final third today. "

Steven Gerrard was left frustrated after Rangers' goalless draw with Livingston 👇

And that's why I thought we spent a good few million on itten and roofe and hadgi and Kent .



17 Aug 2020 05:54:42
Hagi been our worst player last 4 games.



17 Aug 2020 07:50:12
Would been happy even to see JJ getting a game, an unpredictable winger with more than pace. Would of been ideal for this game, the management have to start using what they've got, that's always the sign of a good gaffer.



 
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