Rangers Banter Archive April 17 2015

 

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17 Apr 2015 21:27:55
I don'tunderstand why anyone would like cathro appointed instead of mccall the guy has no management experience, yes he might be a excellent coach but that doesn't mean he would make a good manager. Lots of assistants/coaches have failed to make the transition from coach to manager mccall deserves to be able to bring his own players in and not to be judged by working with the garbage mccoist brought in

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18 Apr 2015 07:55:49
Hooly78,I totally agree with you as I also think ian cathro is a very good coach but like your good self I want stuart mccall to be given the chance to be the new permanent rangers manager on at least a 3 year contract thus allowing him to plan and build his own rangers team with his own ideas as he's undoubtedly a good coach,mccall is single minded and would put his own stamp on his rangers team,I say remove the uncertainty now and give him the job permanently!

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18 Apr 2015 08:19:31
Just my opinion hooly, I don't know anything about Cathro so I don't particularly want him as manager but under Mccall things havn't got much better, the Livy game last week and the QOTS games to name only two games where he was unable to lift the team and MANAGE us to victory. I also believe, and its up for debate, that Walter Smith would have taken that same squad by the scruff of the neck and dragged them screaming and shouting up to the standard that they should be at.
All that said if Mccall gets us up I'll be there at Ibrox singing his name and cheering him on his lap of honour so perhaps I'm a hippocrite.

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18 Apr 2015 10:38:28
Jyf,with all due respect here mate you can't fully judge stuart mccall with someone else's team,I say wholeheartedly give mccall a chance as he has good contacts,an eye for a player,gives youth a chance & as proven at motherwell he's a good coach,surely that's enough to give him a chance and the rangers manager's job permanently

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18 Apr 2015 11:53:51
I didn't want mccall to begin with but in the big games he has shown he will change his team and try new things so I would give him a shot, not many managers out there that would be willing to come that are better than McCall. It's a poisened chalice.

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18 Apr 2015 13:35:33
As it stands Mccall only has a 50% win rate (Mccoist 74% KM 30% this season)and in the games we didn't win and the cowdenbeath game which we did win we have been very poor so that's why I am not shouting from the roof tops that we must sign him on a long term deal.

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18 Apr 2015 13:51:18
Are you for real still defending mccoist! Mccall only had a hand full of games how the he'll can u bring winning percentages into it, mccoist is a money grabbing still taking his money while the club has to get 1.5million loan of 3 bears to survive shame on him

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18 Apr 2015 16:02:52
Holly I was asking what McCall has done since arriving to deserve along term deal and don't you like FACTS?

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18 Apr 2015 16:31:49
Jyf it's unfair to compare McCall and mcdonalds yet given the fact they had ally's team.

McCall beat hearts and hibs sonething niether couldn't do

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18 Apr 2015 17:42:36
Maybe mccoist win percentage is 70 percent because for the past 3 years he was playing against joiners and postmen etc!

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19 Apr 2015 13:28:54
I did say "this season" hooly if you read my post.

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17 Apr 2015 17:38:32
while I understand the board have made getting to the bottom of the ashley deals top priority surely the no. 1 priority should have been appointing a scouting team and sporting director so we can find and sign players for next season, if we don't go up I can see the current squad being offered new contracts, hope i'm wrong, couldn't face watching mcculloch, boyd, foster etc again next year. anyone agree?

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17 Apr 2015 21:06:59
u ont know what the board are in the process of putting in place

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17 Apr 2015 12:54:27
Can someone please explain to me how hibs are at a disadvantage if we played our last game on the Sunday? Is it easier to win on a Sunday? It make us go into the match needing a victory and piling on the pressure and then if we fail we have less recovery time for the playoffs and finally what's it got to do with hearts? Yes we play them but the league is over for them.

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17 Apr 2015 14:10:40
Well for a start if it comes down to goal difference you will know exactly how many goals you need to take second. Also you will know wether you are playing for a win or a draw - simple stuff really

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17 Apr 2015 15:04:48
So its beyond the realms of possibility for hibs to just go and win and force us to go to the champions needs to win by 3 goals ect? That's what I would be saying if i'm Alan stubbs, imo it shows they are running scared. who here would rather we played Saturday and hibs Sunday?

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17 Apr 2015 15:44:31
It's sporting integrity. it's the right thing to do. Hibs could go out and lose, so we just go oh well to bad that's field the u20's kind of thing. it all goes back to Germany and Algeria. They knew they had Done enough to Qualify so passed the ball around for 90 minutes.

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17 Apr 2015 16:40:09
I didn't look at it that way to be fair but what I would say is hearts have nothing to play for so can't they play who they want or just stand still for 90 minutes?

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18 Apr 2015 11:54:49
I thought the spl were doing it so the champions would be closing out the season and also to add more excitement if it does go to the last day for second place. I wouldn't care if it had been hjbs playing the Sunday

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18 Apr 2015 15:19:56
I see the blinkers on for many regarding sporting intergraty. Rangers got the season extended for 4 years & the Scottish Cup Final was moved to a week later!!I also remember Celtic playing games in advance before a euro final,yet rangers postponed games so why have clowns like BF moaning & bleating that it's the " agenda against us". If he paid his EBT LOAN back maybe just mabe & the dozens that owe LOANS pay them then ADMIN & Liquidation wouldn't have occurred!!

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18 Apr 2015 19:53:47
Titties, thanks for your insightful unbiased posts. They are of course taken most seriously.

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17 Apr 2015 13:28:03
Just want to straighten out the goings on with Mr Cashley.

as I believe just now, Ashley owns 75% of rangers retail. Made up of 26% which is a term of the first tranch of 5mil and will return to rangers as soon as we pay the loan back. 49% which ashley directly owns and will until he decides to sell.

is this correct? does this mean we could change the deal that gives us such a measly amount?

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17 Apr 2015 13:40:57
Payback the loan and the retail will go back to 51/49, it's that simple.

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17 Apr 2015 13:43:46
To change a contract is called a renegotiation, and is something that only happens if all sides agree to do it. Nobody gives up contractual benefits without a trade. What is it you think we can offer Ashley to induce him to give up his possession of the share of our retail?

Or is this the great mythical "we'll change it just because we're the mighty gers and all cower before us" big-talk again?

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17 Apr 2015 14:57:35
but if rangers have 51% and ashley 49% wouldn't we have the upperhand?

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17 Apr 2015 16:46:59
All it means is the club reverts back to taking 51% of the retail income instead of whatever we get now, not that we have 51% of the control.

Imagine you own 49% of a company with your pal, and he decides because he's got 51% and he thinks this gives him a voting majority, he's decided you now only own 10% instead. That's called theft.

Your pal can offer to buy you out, but you don't have to say yes if you don't want to. Your pal can dilute your shareholding by making a further share issue, but company law says you can't without 75% of the existing shareholders agreeing.

And the board can offer to buy Ashley out of his share, if we can convince him to do so. He wants £25 million. Since we can't even afford to pay him back his £5million loan to get a chunk of the retail back, that seems highly unlikely to happen.

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17 Apr 2015 12:28:23
so it seems we are in a bit of a sticky situation here. we can either buy the tops directly. Or we can buy season tickets and what not, for the club to give sports direct money to cover for the unsold tops. we are basically stuck between a rock and a hard place, Do we buy the tops or do we let the club suffer from it?

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17 Apr 2015 21:33:08
The tops we don't sell rangers need to buy of Ashley so not buying them cost rangers not sports direct can't believe people are not going to buy

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18 Apr 2015 09:53:24
Here's a thought, no-one buy the shirts from SD, Rangers buy them from Ashley, sell them on to the fans for a surcharge. Club is quids in. Bit tongue in cheek, but could be a way round it.

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17 Apr 2015 10:22:32
Don't know what to do here about buying the grandkids shirts, which they will be looking for very soon.I personally don't wear shirts to games, I think its for youngsters, just my opinion.I don't want to let them down and in the end I know I will buy them, but it breaks my heart knowing the club will only get 7p in the pound.

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17 Apr 2015 13:05:44
on the other hand if you don't buy them the club will be forced too buy them at a bigger loss so ultimately I think we will be better off as a club if we buy them. Still sucks though

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17 Apr 2015 14:00:27
the club should have anticipated Ashley getting the strips out early and try get him to the table if no response then go to court these deal are not for good of the club so why do the new board not take action I think they are waiting to see what league we will be in response to the above about we will have to pay more for the shirts if the club do not sell them we have to pay more we should buy the lions shirts then let Ashley trying get the money of king ect they will not just hand the money offer un till all these contracts are sorted out buy the lions shirts and do not give Ashley another penny

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17 Apr 2015 15:48:54
You're right craig,its one thing Ashley controling the money coming in for the merchandise,but I can't see King etc paying for unsold stock without a fight.

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17 Apr 2015 16:29:57
Ashley will have thought of that,so he will check to see what stock is left over and off-set it from whatever we're owed from sales.I'll stick to the fitbaw I think!

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17 Apr 2015 20:47:47
If the company are forced to buy the jerseys, does that mean they physically get the jerseys? If they do, can the company not then sell said jerseys on to the supporters for their own benefit? Then maybe add an extra amount on (which I am sure you would all pay as you know it will be going to the company) to cover costs and maybe make a profit??
Could they do that??

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17 Apr 2015 22:18:34
we are owed very little from sales so let him keep that buy the other tops and all the money goes to the benefit of the club folk saying club will be worse off if we do not buy the tops there is no chance king ect will not hand over the cash so we will not be worse off

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17 Apr 2015 10:20:28
Where was the sporting integrity in 2008 when we reached the UEFA cup final?

Just a stupid little phrase people are trying to use to make themselves seem like a big shot dempster, budge, Celtic fans lmao.

People only want sporting integrity when it suits them.

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17 Apr 2015 14:53:24
Lol would love to see roles reversed and see if you had same opinion. So you see no advantage to knowing the team (challenging you for 2nd) result and final goal tally before you play your final game? You would be happy if Hibs had that knowledge going into thier final game?

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17 Apr 2015 20:48:53
Wasting your time tompo! Of course they don't!

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18 Apr 2015 11:56:18
Wouldn't care, shouldn't leave it to other teams to help you to finish higher lmao. Everything's a conspiracy haha

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17 Apr 2015 09:53:10
great piece in the daily record today by barry ferguson on so called sporting integrity!!

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17 Apr 2015 07:36:03
The SFA muppet Regan has issued a statement casting doubt over whether King will be cleared to be Rangers' chairman. Here we go again, the SFA preparing to kick us in the teeth. Having said that, I'm sure that King will have made provisions to be 'in control' of Rangers whether or not he is chairman and as he's been cleared to be a director via the courts, surely the SFA can't stop him sitting on the board? The board must start taking action now:
1. Inject much-need funds. What about the 3 Bears' £6.5m they said they were prepared to invest? Also, King mentioned up to £30m at one time - where is it?
2. Pay of fat-cat Ashley and get him off our backs for good.
3. Start discussing new player targets for next season.
4. If McCall gets us up to the SPL, then I think he should be given the managers' job on a permanent basis.
5. Ditch the deadwood, sign two or three marque players and give the kids their chance!

The board also needs to keep fans informed on all ongoing issues and get the business listed on the ISDX exchange.

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17 Apr 2015 09:28:50
Dear god, we've already been asked to be patient, this doesn't happen overnight. DK AND THE REST OF THE BOARD WILL GET IT RIGHT, let them get on with there job and support the team and trust the rest

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17 Apr 2015 10:20:21
what makes u think these things are not in hand they will be clearing up debris from last encumbents for ever and a day we must walk before we can run

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17 Apr 2015 10:28:15
DOIGER, I would have thought the first thing the 3 Bears and King would have done was too stand at the front door of Ibrox with the Title Deeds in their hands to put everyone at rest. I think that King will be passed and then youz will have to get a shift on if you are promoted as youz are not equipped yet for the SPFL. The worrying thing is that with Cashley and the "DEEDS" there will be so much red tape and disclosures for keeping things silent, it could be years before you get any proper information about who owns what. Divina should get the Job though,Hail Hail

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17 Apr 2015 10:34:28
Agree DOIGER,but any signings we make will be two-man tent material rather than marquee lol.

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17 Apr 2015 11:08:40
Nice on gkk!

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17 Apr 2015 12:55:56
Previously the boards if we can call them that rushed in and made some ridiculous and mind blowing descions . Now we have a board that are taking due diligence in going through the details of certain transactions that were basically set up by scallywags, very business minded ones at that . They did things that served their needs and not the clubs. Now all your moaners if you new how business was run there are legal issues that must be investigated and these issues must remain at the moment under wraps. Please bide the time and all will be revealed.

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17 Apr 2015 13:45:59
Nobody is paying off Ashley - not unless someone has a spare £25m rattling about in their pocket.

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16 Apr 2015 23:04:41
I think rangers centre half/right back darren mcgregor has been a cracking signing for us,he's always very solid and very rarely let's you down,I've always thought lee wallace will be the next glasgow rangers captain but I also think that darren mcgregor has it in him to be a future glasgow rangers captain,mcgregor is a good communicator on the park,for a centre half which undoubtedly is mcgregor's best position,he is also pretty quick,I'm a big fan of darren mcgregor and I'm delighted his one year option on his contract have kicked in as he's played over 50% of our games,in my opinion mcgregor could easily play as our centre half in the scottish premiership,thoughts on this bears

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17 Apr 2015 09:36:53
Jrt
Absolutely spot on about McGregor. He strikes me as someone who knows what it means to play for Rangers and gives 100 per cent in every game. Quick, good in the air and strong on the tackle - he ticks all the boxes for me.
On another note, does anyone else feel Cammy Bell appears to lack the confidence necessary to be a top keeper?

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17 Apr 2015 09:43:15
Play him at CB v Dumbarton.

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17 Apr 2015 19:52:09
Gogs24,I've said for ages now that cammy bell is an ok keeper and that's all,I've never really rated cammy bell that highly,we made a huge mistake not signing craig gordon while we had the chance after helping him back to full fitness,gordon trained with us at murray park for around 8 months and wasn't offered a contract by mccoist,a helluva big mistake as far as I'm concerned,craig gordon at his best is one of the best goalies in britain!

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17 Apr 2015 21:36:15
my god jr we concur sir

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