Rangers Banter Archive September 16 2012

16 Sep 2012 21:41:55
Kyle Bartleys tweet...is it really childish off me that seeing celtic lose puts asmile on my face ...yes some will see its childish,but nots get on the lads back..i havent had the smile wiped of my face since....A..they went bankrupt..B..the slogan we dont do walking away,then nearly all did..C..cars repossesed..D...a porno clown as an adviser...E..craig whyte..F..a guy calls green buys the assets and creates a new club,making the last and first new owners GREEN&WHYTE..G..craig whyte sold the bike&pies..H..the new club cant win away against plumbers,joiners,painters,with there supersatrs they bought too play against them..i could ad more but that would be a bit childish of me ...stevo

Only knows a - h, poor timmy...
RFCJ

I'm impressed you know the alphabet so well Stevo ..... as a blue nose i only really know watp, rtd and of course ..... iou! LB

Haha good reply LB,after all its a BANTER page..stevo

FFs Stevo your not only obsessed about Rangers it seems you have an unhealthy obsession with ex Rangers players.

if i was you i would just forget about our we third division team and concentrate on your world beaters because lets be honest things are not all rosy over in Paradise at the moment

Lochaber Bear

"with there superstars" ha best part of that dribble
FauldsRFC

@3. Surely a manager who has brought in £20m in revenue after winning 100% of games in Europe isn't under threat?
Add that to someone who clearly has an eye for a player and who has amassed a squad with considerable resale value and the future is bright.

Get Ally on that 25 year contract! Make sure there's substantial compensation clauses built in should Manchester United or any other EPL swoop for him. Mmm
Maybe not eh?

When McCoist gets hounded out of Ibrox it'll be his last job as a football manager!

@ 6),

Put Lennon in McCoist's shoes. Lennon has a decent wage bill to play with and money to spend so can attract half decent players, McCoist has never had that luxury.

......and Lennon certainly hasn't won 100% of his European games.

Lennon isn't as good a manager as you make out.

TTG

Good to see your still here Loch Bear, thought you'd be off hibernating!

Everything is "rosy over in Paradise" son.....Wednesday we prepare for the arrival of Benfica in the Champions League.....that game will be shown all over the world. We get to see Óscar Cardozo, Bruno César et al

Then we get to see Iniesta, Xavi, Messi and Pique.

Whilst your games are shown on BBC Alba! And you get to see players such as Graeme Ramage, Martin Bavidge, Jamie McCunnie and Paul Millar! Exciting times down govan way....wouldn'y you say Loch Bear?

DazzaBhoy

@4: what about your unhealthy obsession with Juninho's EBT?

16 Sep 2012 19:16:38
I have just been reading some of the websites that have published details of Gavin Rae's alleged EBT and dual contract.
The point I would like to make will be controversial but in my opinion may be the best way forward for our club.
If we are found guilty and after viewing these websites ( if they are true) I do not think we have a leg to stand on. We must distance ourselves from the old club to protect the current club and I will give you my reasons why.
1. If the old club are stripped of titles it will not make one bit of difference to the current club going forward. We enjoyed the good times and nobody can ever take them from us
2. Although I hate to admit it we are a new club, still playing at Ibrox and still called rangers but a new club. A new club that will continue to support through thick and thin (as I have done for over 40 years)
3. My fear is Mr Green has agreed to accept all punishments that the SPL and the SFA deem appropriate if we are found guilty. This may lead to fines and points deductions being levied against the current club. This in turn would hinder our recovery and hamper our push to get back to the top of Scottish football and competing in Europe where we should be.
We really need to start looking forward rather than back; I would gladly give them titles and cups from the old club than see any further punishments levied against the current club.

No way your a rangers fan

So you think what the old rangers did should be just forgotten about {Ed039's Note - So many people keep reminding us that we are a new company and as such lay no claim to oldco history but want newco punished for its sins, another prime example of folk wanting it both ways, and I am not aiming that a you in particular poster, I am aiming the huge amount of dross posted on here by the anti rangers brigade)

Our name is mud the world wide can only imagine what it's going to be like when this all comes out

A very sensible post.we must remember that the majority of celtic fans don't want the titles awarded to them if stripped from oldco,they just want the history books ammended fairly.i mean, a monetary fine can't be held against oldco as they are bankrupt so stripping titles is the only thing that can be done in my view

Our glorious leaders needs to learn to shut his mouth when talking about dual contracts and EBT's, talk of witch hunts etc are doing us no favours. We know the numbers involved in terms of personell who were on EBT's and we know the level of cheating is £50m. The name rangers has been tainted forever and no amount of defiance is going to change that.

@1: typical narrow-minded response from the type of blinkered fan who cannot see the bigger picture.

Fello Bears this is a Rangers rumours/banter site infiltrated by too many from the dark side.So wee warning read comments with a pinch of salt guys because on other site congratulating themselves on stirring it up on here.Sad or what.

I am the OP and I would like to take issue with some replies.
Reply 1. How dare you doubt my rangers credentials just because you don't agree with my opinion, everyone's allowed their own opinion
Reply 2. No I most certainly do not want to forget about everything that the old club achieved but I would rather see the history books were changed than our future was compromised.
Ed 039. How do I want it both ways? I want no punishment taken against the current club, let them take historic titles from the old club if they want but do not punish the new club. Let us get on with rebuilding.
To everyone else out there, what punishments would you accept because make no mistake about it they are coming our way. Just Google Gavin Rae EBT and decide for yourself if we are going to get through this without any action being taken. {Ed039's Note - My reply was in reference to the post it was linked to thank you very much)

I.d sooner shoot my self than let titles, which from the fans point of view are legit. be taken away from us. we,ve endured enough humiliation. we are a wounded lion, and like a wounded lion it is time to fight back

At 4.) Typical celtic fan saying they only want our titles 'cos a fine is of no use to old Rangers. What about the previous owners getting the fines instead, surely that would keep them happy...don't think so! celtic fans should be honest and admit that nothing but our titles will do for them.

Can they not just take away David Murray and Craig Whyte for ritual sacrafice and leave our titles alone thanks! they are the real villains here! LB

Well said at 7).....our Banter site is crawling with them, but then look on the bright side - we are Scotland's biggest and most successful club by far! Geo the Ger

Its 5 titles that can be stripped at most from time period mentioned let them take it we will be back

When did gers fans become lions.Your only
bears!Please remember there's only one set
of LIONS in Glasgow

A very mature post. Who won the most titles is a schooboy attitude. The only matter of importance is who wins the next title.

Ed 007 is always telling us it's not a celtic banter site, it's a banter site about celtic so all welcome. so this is a banter site about the rangers , works both ways. if you want a rangers banter site join swallow swallow. im a member. shamrock

@16 Yes it's a Rangers banter site but you lot spend most of your time on here obsessing over a team you claim no longer exists rather than moaning about the poor product on your own patch! Peter Lawell has really pulled the wool over all your eyes for years by merely feeding the narrow mindedness within your own support! As for the OP...never a Rangers fan! We are not a new club FFS! New co and oldco are the terms banded about! I don't remember spending over the last 30 odd years supporting Rangers football company! Company merely owns the club and operates the financial side of things....do I need to spell that out for you?

@17:: there was a fair bit of obsessing about Celtic recently too, especially over EBTs - works both ways.

@17 bit rich saying lawell has pulled the wool over their eyes. sounds more like your current and previous chairmen

16 Sep 2012 17:51:46
I would say the problem with Rangers is that all the excellent 'managers' spend their time on here. So many experts on here, I have learned so much. We have managers, financial experts,legal experts etc etc. Why go anywhere else when everything you need to learn is on this page, and its all free.

Glad to be of service,you can always rely on us garlar07

Think the problem with rangers is...playing 1 up front (a 34 yr old at that) against a bunch of part-timers who are no better than junior level,
it's embarassing and shambolic that mcoist is being so cautious,im sure my local pub team could give this rangers team a run for its money and thats after last orders!!
mcoist get a grip for christ sake

@2

Taking soccer a little too seriously methinks, only a game lad. {Ed039's Note - More than that to a lot of folk)

Shankly wud kick your bum no 3)! and ..... soccer? where you from dude!? LB

16 Sep 2012 16:10:31
I know a will prob get told to p#ss of here but can't believe it's already started with the witch hunt to get Ally out! Give him a chance at the end of the day we have not started the way that we all thought we would but we are only one point from the top!! It will take time for us to get use to the small stadiums and style of play so instead of moaning about the manager,team ect why don't we get behind them
WATP

What are you on about? He has already had a chance. Remember last season when he blew a 15 point lead and then hid behind the admin story.

I ll agree with you, problem is the 'loyal' supporters are a very fickle bunch. We are only a team, have no divine right to win every game. Also, everyone knows better than the manager that is in charge, thats why they spend their time moaning on here.

I think McCoist must go I've said it since last season. He has no tactics n just looks like a rabbit in the head lights. He should take his back staff too. Looking at his transfers they have more bad than good. I don't think he can take our club forward. Managerial wise. Still a legwnd

16 Sep 2012 15:21:27
the league will be won by xmas, not going to happen.. the team is managed by a ex player legend.. growing numbers want the legend sacked because he is not up to the job , only to be castigated by the fans who cant see past the '' legend '' status.. you decide who i am talikng about.. shamrock

Shamrock....
that's rich coming from selick fans who were after lennons blood last year,remember he seemed only mins away from the sack during the kilmarnock game

This time last year it would be a certain NL

If the truth be told mcoist and lennon are both 3rd rate managers sack them both now

Shamrock. Celtic fans are already showing discontent with their team.
You accuse Rangers fans of not seeing past the legend status.What has NL done to receive the same accolade from Celtic fans? Ally McCoist has served our club for twenty two years in various capacities. He is our all time top goalscorer and is deserving of the true legend status.
How do you think he'll be treated if he manages to blow the treble two years running?
P.O.B.

@4: maybe the OP is referering to both managers?

3 and 5 spot on , pob wrong as usual. shamrock

16 Sep 2012 12:18:09
Ed, see your refusal to authorise the case study of Gavin Rae will come back to bite you on the botty.
This is the kind of evidence {Ed001's Note - no, you are obviously unable to distinguish between evidence and hearsay. Go away, I will continue to delete your hearsay until you have proof.}

Is not RangersRumours? {Ed001's Note - yes, rumours, not vicious and potentially slanderous gossip.}

Ed, is there any credibility at all to what the OP is trying to post? When he/she states that there's likely to be redress? Are you likely to be made to look silly if/when this information is accessible more likely? {Ed001's Note - why would I look silly? I can't post for legal reasons, I don't have any money to fight a court case, whether or not the poster is telling the truth or not.}

If its the breakdown of Gavin Rae's EBT why can't you post it citing the well informed RTC as the source? That then would take away any liability on you as an individual? {Ed001's Note - that is merely an anonymous blog with no credibility as a source.}

The RTC is an award winning blog, the Orwell society recognises it as such? {Ed001's Note - yes, a blog, not a source. You do realise a blog is just an opinion piece don't you? An online diary, so to speak, that is all.}

Ed, im a celtic fan and you are perfectly right not to get involved in gavin rae,s alleged ebt too much at stake for you to get involved.

Ed, yeah leave this alone,, it's pointless until anything officially announced. shamrock

16 Sep 2012 11:09:58
"I'm not embarrassed . . . I might be disappointed."

Well Ally , us as supporters are embarrassed by your shambolic signing policy, your tactical nievity and your rambling to the press!
The tippex one was the latest in a long line. He needs to engage brain with mouth before he starts. Tippex is used for correcting mistakes!
It was the same with the "who are these people?", endangering their lives whilst the club had been informed before hand exactly who they would be; the club secretary was in the same room as them!

We've got Green doing it on a huge scale whilst blatantly having an agenda to raise as much money as possible we could do without you continually scoring own goals!!

If we're going to watch football against the likes of Annan is it too much to ask we attempt to play some stylish and attractive football, after all Ally's tactics of hoofing the long ball up to a lone striker aren't exactly paying dividends are they?

And don't tell me we shouldn't be able to pass a bunch of joiners and plumbers off any park, plastic or otherwise.

One of the best posts on here for a while... I dont mind playing bad football if people are trying to play good football, but we ad trying to play crap football, with crap players and doing it very well.

16 Sep 2012 10:29:13
The problem with rangers is that ally isn't the manager smith still is. Unless ally adopts his own style and gets some experience to help him then I can't see him being manager for much longer.

Blueice

Dont agree with this. Smith used to win all the games and do it playing some decent football, not great but decent. Ally had the same players last year as Smith bar a few and was showen up big time. Too big boots to fill for Ally and the club got it wrong to give him the job, 18 months later, is enough time to show some progress, but there has been zip.

Shame really. Ally is a club legend but that does not make a great manager - Big JG is an example. Should have the corage to step aside but unfortunately has boxed himself into a corner with his "We don't do walking away." So even if he wanted to...

16 Sep 2012 03:06:40
Surely there must be some type of an investigation into this. Rangers TV said it twice during the game, so it must be true. Seemingly teams are treating visits by Rangers as cup finals!

I mean, how dare they! They are therefore motivated and want to win. How can a club with facilities like Murray Park and a wage bill of £7m compete against guys trying hard? It's so unfair.

Forget talent, international players, superb facilities, well paid coaches. How on earth can all those things match players who see a ball probably no more than six hours a week (including games) when they turn up motivated and determined?

This must be the first time ever this has happened to Rangers (even in cup finals presumably). Because no one saw this coming, nor expected it. It came like a bolt out of the blue. Small teams roll there sleeves up against bigger team. This headline should be winging it's way around the world. Hold all other news stories.

After the last seven months how dare teams whose monthly outgoings will be akin to Black's wage have the temerity to try. Shocking!

The wage bill is more than £7m.

Part timers from Scottish villages forcing new rangers onto the back foot and their coveted 0-0 draws. Lots for those sparks, joiners and mechanics to talk about doon the pub.

I've heard from a decent source that our goalkeeping coach earns more in a week than the combined weekly wages of the jobbers at at last two Division 3 clubs.

Seriously tho, i need a plumber and wi all of them rolling their sleeves up and humping my team with cup final performan moral vitory draws ..... ma new bathroom suite still isny in! LB