Rangers Banter Archive August 16 2012

 

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16 Aug 2012 19:29:29
serious question....how many times do you lot change your values?the faux outrage at fans booing ian black, don't make me laugh....maybe these comments will refresh your memory on what ra peepel think (thought?) of your latest victim of abuse:


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Might I add that something should be done about Ian Black, that's two horrific challenges that he's got away with, and as much as I like seeing a celtic player on the deck in pain, he could have ruined his career, same with Jelavic and his cowardly tackle on him. I think that's why Jelavic reacted against the hibs lad, as the Hibs boy tried the same challange.

Rikkisixx

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Ian Black (as much as I hate him) was booked for a late challenge

GovanFR

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watched the game today and got to say was not impressed with ian black at all i think he is a total waste on wages what did he do at hearts part from chop players nuthing hutton would be alot better than black

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and finally Ian Black in a rangers top, disgrace and offensive and insulting to the club, he is a thug that does not deserve time on a football pitch, simply NOT GOOD ENOUGH

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Iwas never a great fan of Ian Blacks always thought he was to Dangerous a player was always on the verge of ending someones carrier with mad tackles

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When Blacks name was first banded about i posted o here regarding my disapproval. The guy is a thug and will spend more time serving suspensions than on the park. Thats just my opinion.

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If Ian Black does sign then it absolutely stinks

Mac2

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he is just a total w4nk3r of a guy tried to break jelavics leg and hes sh1t

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Thst would be the final straw for me I cam handle watching s**te players but not that thug, he would be a cert to be sent off in old firm games

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The man is a thug! And to be honest not very good at football. Wouldn't get a game for Stranraer! JBBEAR

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black is mince all he is good for is kicking players up and down the place

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No chance he is a dirty B*****D!
WATP
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Are people forgetting the guy was caught with cocaine in edinburgh nightclub last year. The guy is a f*d. Is this the kind of player we really want representing our club?

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Ian Black is an absolute thug of a "player". He hates the Rangers fans. I wouldn't like to see him in our jersey.

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Why look for a "hot head". He's dross. Lafferty is a liability at times if your looking for a hot head. Big Jig... He serves absolutely no purpose apart from to play this Ian Black role. Even Naisy has a wild challenge or two in his locker. We need a player or two who can control a football and show some composure not idiots who kick anything above the grass with no quality. Hot heads lose games. Whittaker blew the malmo away leg. Jig blew St Mirren away a couple of weeks ago. Enough said.

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Hate him with a passion he was the one that crocked big jelavic and the guy is rotten at football which is most important. We already have a guy that is good for nothing more than kicking people Lee (i canny kick a baw cos am past it) McCulloch.

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I think you'll find the majority of fans didn't want him in his team, and to be fair his actions are different to Ian Black, as diouff's behaviour rather than the reckless, dangerous career threatening behavior of Blacks

stop trying to defend this guy.

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The only type of ability i've seen from Black is an ability to hurt other players. Nothing more than a thug. Definitely not wanted at Ibrox imo.

Gerry The Ger.

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Me and my brother were talking about Ian black coming to rangers and we both agreed that he is a dirty player we don't need that at rangers he was the one that Jelavic out for the rest of the year in his first season remember?
Brian

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A hope not he is nothing but a thug that likes to cause injury!
WATP
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this gut isnt a player he's a thug who goes studs up in every tackle making him a liability to his team

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I've reed a few people on here posting Ian black for rangers if he ever does sign I will send my season ticket back

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On another note, I see that person Ian Black has been at it again today. He's a disgrace and would be in Saughton if it wasn't for him being a footballer!
He's going to end someones career soon, animal!

Baybear

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Talentless animal who reminds me of Neil Lennon and Scott Brown. 0 ability 100% dirty c***.

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I'm surprised no one has mentioned Ian Blacks other action after he was taken off. Following walking off, kissing his badge then taking off his shirt, he then crossed himself. I have no problems with players who wish to cross themselves but this purely done to get a reaction from us...

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I cant stand the guy just another poor footballer and the type of player that makes the spl look like pub football.


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Somebody should make an e-petition to have Ian Black kicked out of Scottish football lol. Seriously though one of the dirtiest players I have ever seen.

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I have been saying this for years, before he went to hearts. not only that but he tackles like a coward, either when a player is already down, or a cowartdly stamp on the achilles from behind... and it is deliberate every time, two weeks after Jelavic last season, he had a two-footed lung on a celtic player who was down injured last season, and as far as am aware never even got booked....Unfortunately its only ever highlighted, and described as clumsy on TV.

The guy is a weasel

Rikkisixx

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Ian Black is the dirtiest player in Scotland, I was saying that as I was watching the game yesterday, he's a dirty growler and a very average player. Why did he kiss the badge on the way off to the Rangers fans when we couldn't care less?

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Im glad we got that game out the way with that idiot black sliding studs up into every player putting their career at risk

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Was going to post a comment about Ian Black earlier this season after the idiot was sent off for a shocking tackle on Keith Lasley, but thought i was being a bit paranoid. However, yesterday was a classic example of why the guy should be nowhere near a football pitch. Taking into account the foul that lead to Jelavic missing 3/4 months last season, the tackle on Lasley and his assault on diouf on his debut for us last season, i am serious when i say this animal will ruin someones career shortly. It took that ref 6 mis timed tackles for him to book Black, yet Whittaker was given a yellow after his 3rd foul. Is that fair? Are refs that bit more tolerant with black because of his reputation as a midfield "stomper" , not my description, but Mr Craig Burley's. Who stated that Black is just that type of player, is that a player who is good for injuring 4/5 players a season Craig? Fed up watching this guy and worrying who he may injure. Am i the only 1?
J1985

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The most worrying thing for players playing against Black, is that ALL ref's know the type of tackles the clogger put's in, game after game. I agree, he is not far away from seriously injuring someone, and I jjust cannot believe that his yellow / red ratio is not the worst in the SPL ? A bomb scare footballer he is !

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He's a dirty little barsteward, its not that his tackles are mistimed, he deliberately goes in to hurt players. We should bring back big Dunc the next time we play the Jambo's and let him knock 7 shades of s**te out of Black.

Gerry The Ger.

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Ian Black is one of the dirtiest people and football players. He put another scissor challenge on Naismith toward the end of the game similar to the one he injured Jelavic with. Am I right in thinking he was also arrested in relation to drug charges.
Kick Ian Black out of Scottish football.

GovanFR

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Short memories eh! These guys have booed more of their own players in recent times than they have other teams players! if Black was still with hearts then they along with the media would Well done OP great post.

Briggs

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Ha ha ha haw haw haw he he.
The prosecution will rest its case your
Honour.

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Rather compelling . . .

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Every Celtic fan should cut and paste this, send it all over the net.I wonder what FF and RM would think of this

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Very interesting to see some of the posters tags.

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Exactly. He was booed for being a thug. The amount of posts I've read on here about not wanting him on the team were huge, yet you think he was undeserving of the boos? Nothing to do with him being a rangers player. He was booed coz he's a nasty player. Paranoid hypocrites

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Even henric wont support you next tuesday.

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A lot of rangers supporters still don't like him.

He was booed at Easter rd the other night because he's now a Rangers player (no rubbish about being an ex jambo pls). Sums up the shortbread tin mafia that follows Scotland.

You can see how no necessarily liking Ian Black and no liking the fact he was booed the other night because he's now a Rangers player is a logically consistent position I do hope???

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Guys still not liked at rangers and will need to be a stand out if he hopes to turn that around. The booing thing is crappy though, feel free to give him peters all day long in a gers shirt, soon as he pulls on a jersey for the nation, he deserves your support.

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Every sinner has a future, every saint has a past.
I think black's been playing well. And I'll be there supporting him and every other player in a gers strip this Saturday.
Dtp89

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OMG, caught! 30 odd supporters didn't like Black over what? a year's period. Freedom of speech and all that, can't please everybody all of the time.....
I think the posts are fairly reflective of supporters views over a long period of time. Surprised you haven't said that it was the same 30 odd guys who booed him at Easter Rd the other night.
The point is that a player playing for his country should not get booed by his own support. Especially the Tartan Army another 'we're the best supporters in the world' set of fans and I've travelled with Scotland.
Maybe Craig Levein missed the games that the posts refer to, but he merited a place in the squad and cap according to him and because he is a Ranger the fans booed him, something that no player should receive for playing for his country.
So all you've proven is that you can copy and paste, spend bags of time collating outdated posts reflecting your obsession with RFC.

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Moch outrage is always the best lol

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He is a dirty player I accept that. I'd rather have him playing for us than tackling our players.

GovanFR

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Wait a minute are you trying to suggest that prior to him signing for Rangers the Rangers fans didn't like Ian Black. I can't quite believe this what an outstanding piece of research you have done, contact the press!

Oh wait he was booed every time he touched the ball at Ibrox, so your point is? I think the Rangers fans argument would be why boo your own player.

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Man get a life... I have never defended this guy, and stand by my words over the last couple of years. Black isn't a footballer....he's a sh*tebag and a sh*te footballer, and would have Hutton over him any day of the week

I think someone needs to get a wee life outwith rumours forums, how long did that take to copy paste....

Rikkisixx

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People are entitled to opinions, if he tries when he has that blue jersey on, good enough for me. Incidentally when the green and grey hordes wanted rid of Lennon at the start of last season any chance we could see those posts as you seem to have plenty of time spare.
People in glass houses remember!

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The sad thing is that a sad wee Celtic Fans went through the Rangers page with a fine tooth comb finding all those posts, Obsessed much?

Larky Bear

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Hurlock, souness,,,, mcculloch getting past it ' you have a position to fill, black fits the bill perfectly. i should also point out a position we have never used, we prefer footballers .. shamrock

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Seems that some of the posters on here have been shown up for being as two faced as we all knew they were.

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17) black was booed because he's a thug not because he play's for rangers. iv'e watched rangers for 25 years we've had our hard men throughout that time,but we've never had a player who want's to end someones career i don't want him in the team he doesn't deserve to put the rangers shirt on his back just a THUG

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@ 16.......tell you what, that took me all of 5 minutes to put together, so you can do your own digging on Neil Lennon. i'd be delighted to see the 'masses' of posts that demanded Lenny was sacked, cos for the life of me i don't remember any!


taco

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@17: obsessed in the way that Green is as he mentions Celtic as much as possible?

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The OP was 'Taco' he made a comment on the Celtic page about his comment finally being posted last night and this was the only post that didn't have a tag at the end that was anywhere near the time he was talking about. Why didn't you sign your name Taco?

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Taco why didn't you tag the post originally did you want to see the reaction before putting your name to it?

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Just for Taco since he asked to see posts about Lennon for the sack; sorry ed its another long one.


see if we dnt get something dun with getn players in why dnt we stay away from games then they will have to do something bec any decent celtic fan will no that was a pub team we played the night lennon cant come out with any excuses after that he could say the big person dan did not help us wiyh getn sent off after 1 min but he fu,,,picked him disgrace guys never thought for a min we would get beat off that shi.never mind sack lennon sack the board greedy bast..goodnight god bless jim the tim

some of the fans on here are a disgrace its the first loss of the season and already you are wanting lennon sacked.

how you doin ed? terrible reuslt today surely lennon must go now. personally i was one that wanted wee strachan to go but i think that was our biggest mistake would love to see the wee man back. and 1 other point i've defended the big keeper to the hills and back but he let us down big time today again must follow lennon out, if he goes ed who u think for the job. 1st time post Coatbridgebhoy

Lennon must go. If he stays this season, Rangers will win the league. His transfer activity during summer wasn't good enough, his tactics and team selection are woeful and his substitutions and attempts to change a game are utterly pathetic. He hasn't got the experience or know-how to take the club forward. After the Mowbray disgrace he was the cheap and easy option when the club needed someone good to get us out of trouble.
Sack Lennon, now.

Celtic is too big a club for a rookie manager. The expectations and demands of the job are far too great. Tactical experimentation in the course of learning your trade at Celtic can be the difference between winning or losing the league.

neil lennon the man will always have my upmost respet for all the s**t he has stood above.but neil lennon the manager will never get any. his team selections are unbelievable , his tactics are always wrong and his subtitutions are always too late and wrong. it's fine to support him and i always will ,but there has to come a time when we , the supporters put celtic first, lets be honest guys , he just doesn't have what it takes to manage our club. i hate to say it BUT LENNON MUST GO!!!!!!

please please please Lennon must go board members please read this

Now must be the time for lennon to go. We have the worst defence that I have seen at Celtic for years. We all Knew last season that we needed to strengthen the defence with a centre half, goal keeper and centre forward and lennon did not deliver that is why we are in this position. We are stuck with this bunch of players until January and then who can we buy with no chance of Champions league football.

this is not a rumour,its time for lennon to go he has not got a clue.if that was mowbray or anyone else the fans would be crying out for them to be sacked.but lennon cant take all the blame that board need to spend some decent money on players.you only get what you pay for and thats rubbish we have,keep ledley & hooper but the rest your times up,and the board must now be on a tight rope after buying all that rubish thats on the park,fed up hearing the other mob are skint,they seem to be putting a better team on the park every year


please please please Lennon must go board members please read this

Now must be the time for lennon to go. We have the worst defence that I have seen at Celtic for years. We all Knew last season that we needed to strengthen the defence with a centre half, goal keeper and centre forward and lennon did not deliver that is why we are in this position. We are stuck with this bunch of players until January and then who can we buy with no chance of Champions league football.

this is not a rumour,its time for lennon to go he has not got a clue.if that was mowbray or anyone else the fans would be crying out for them to be sacked.but lennon cant take all the blame that board need to spend some decent money on players.you only get what you pay for and thats rubbish we have,keep ledley & hooper but the rest your times up,and the board must now be on a tight rope after buying all that rubish thats on the park,fed up hearing the other mob are skint,they seem to be putting a better team on the park every year

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@23: maybe he forgot and in #21 he said it was him that posted.

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@23: obsessed with Celtic so you're on their page? lol

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Surely all of the above just proves how totally fickle football fans are?

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16 Aug 2012 18:52:29
anyone know how many season tickets have been sold to date? got mine sorted today? see yous all on saturday!

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16 Aug 2012 18:36:05
please accept we are a newco with conditions relating to oldco . unless conditions were met transfer of licence would never have been agreed meaning we would have been a team without a league , one condition was that we would accept footballing debt , to satisfy others dissatisfaction towards us, unfortunately the monies due for being runners up last season relate to oldco nothing to do with us also monies due for transfers all relate to oldco , again nothing to do with us sorry to say this but it is facts

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Yes I understand your point, but the SFA are there to protect their other members so any monies due to other clubs should be distributed to them before the remaining money is sent to oldco.

So the SFA & SPL should have paid off as much of oldco's debts as possible with the money which should have been awarded for 2nd place.

The Pilot!

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And who makes up the rules?!? One thing's for sure, Rangers' prize money for last season certainly shouldnae have been split between the integrity collective, that is the rest of the spl. Unreal.

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I think the liquidators may have a call on any money due to the oldco before it goes anywhere else

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16 Aug 2012 17:15:59
You know I can't believe I am saying this but I am really looking forward to Saturday. I stood in a queue yesterday for five hours to get a season ticket. I went to SPL games lady year and it was dross,Celtic apart, and so we have lesser players now but I for one don't give a damn.

Just think how sweet it will be when we win the SPL title
again, that will be some party.

I have been critical of our fans in the past, I have no time for the knuckle heads that continue with the bile, I saw people in Manchester who are just a waste of time and a disgrace to the jersey, but really am astonished at the number of tickets sold, there is not another club in the world that could sell what we have sold in our position.

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As a Celtic fan I have to disagree. I am positive that if our club was in same position we have plenty of loyal fans like yourselves who would back the bhoys to the hilt

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Plus the only reason your all jumping back on board is because Charlie bhoy and Sally are giving it large with the everybody hates us propaganda.

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The novelty will wear off soon enough. Like when you buy a new car and you look forward to going out for a drive here and there but then after a few drives it bores you and it then becomes more and more of a chore.... Then you just can't be arsed anymore Thats when you let the wife drive but in this case you will want to go shopping with the wife on a sat instead of watching the newco! That's what I predict for newco fans in a few months.

Briggs

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There is only a few miles away. But before you go ape**** let's be clear. You may end up with more season ticket holders this year, an ignorant, the tickets are cheap protest against all unsundry. But at the end of the day you are paying good money to watch Div3. Enjoy winning. To the outside world every away game is another reason to laugh at the once great Gers. Oh and by the way, you will still have less supporters than the Celts. GIUY

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It's easy to see why the newco are easily selling season tickets , prices have dropped 50% from the team they followed last season. Wonder how many would have follow followed at £500 a shot.....Stevie

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Agree with #1. I think both sides have the same level of loyalty to our clubs. I hope you can find a way out this. By buying your st etc, I think it's the only way you can really feel you're doing something to help. And it will. I look forward to the next old firm. It'll be a belter

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Op here, my goodness the Celtic fans are out in force tonight, still obsessed bhoys?

1). Time will tell but I think many Celtic fans may not want to go when the league is over by November for the next three years.
However I cannot argue that Celtic would still get goodies crowds
2) absolute rubbish, nothing to do with what Green or Ally say, we want to support our team and there is a bit of "well show you" attitude. It was not so long ago when you guys were telling us that we wouldn't sell 10000 tickets.
3) you may be right but I think that the SPal clubs will suffer more, sell out Saturday's was a flop. We will see how many are there when Celtic win by thirty points every year. The argument against Scottish football is that it is a two team league, now it is a one team league. A competition without competition is nothing.
4) you can laugh all you want I could not care less what you or the rest of the Scottish fans think. I would much rather give our money to the SFL rather than the corrupt chairmen of SPL clubs. You are paying more money to watch SPL games if there are any teams left to play next season. Tell the 200,000 in Manchester that you have more fans.
5) no they have not they have reduced 30%
And my tickets are still £600 and I bought two.

The one fact that cannot be denied is that you lot are obsessed with us. I do not understand why you choose to visit here, I would never go on a Celtic page because I just don't care about them, I have no interest in anything they say or do. Seems you care more about us than you do your own team, quite right, you are seeing the light.

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Celtic fans as well as all other premier team supporters are not obsessed with rangers , they are just doing what you lot would be doing if the boot was on other foot good luck in div3 ............not

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Well said seven exactly they are obsessed the fact we survived really hurt them they were gutted they thought they had got all there Christmases at once but then they woke up and realised we were still here. But they did not give up they are like a parasite trying to get inside our minds with more stories of doom and gloom and don't by season tickets of green or your stupid he's ripping you of you will be back in admin by Christmas. Honestly it's amazing the lengths they will go to. So I think it's time we told them straight we don't care what you think so stop wasting your time thinking we do we have bought our season tickets in the thousands. Yes attendances might fall come winter but so will you what does it matter that season ticket holders stay away when it's cold the seat might be empty but it's still paid for and that's all that matters

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There is no 'obsession' as such, what has happened has just been amusing and a talking point since Feb and now we have Chico providing daily ahem 'funnies'.

Celtic have one of the top 10 matchday revenues in Europe and that will continue easily. Ed007 has the stats from Deloittes if you need them. I've no doubt Celtic would sell more than your club, for one...Celtic Park holds 10,000 more than Ibrox.

As I've said before, don't mention the word obsession when you are buying tickets and merchandise from a guy who mentions Celtic every opportunity he gets. Celtic have not responded pure & simple as they know his childish agenda just like everyone else in Scotland AND England. Feel free to speak to any Sheffield fan.

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Ok no10 whatever you say you ain't obsessed I bet as soon as you seen the word you jumped onto try and tell us differently obsessed or what lol. Just as well our teams worth talking about because no one is talking about yours not even there own supporters lol anyway good to know we are still keeping the easily amused amused

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16 Aug 2012 15:48:57
What does everyone think the team should be on Saturday?
I think it should be:
Alexander

Broadfoot Goian Bocanegra Wallace

Shiels McCulloch Black

McKay

Sandaza Kyle/Little

Not too sure about Little or Kyle yet.
Dean The Bluenose

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No broadfoot please .

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Would drop broadfoot and slot little in at rb

Andy

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I think I would like to see Perry play if he is able. Would put Sendaza with Kyle up top. Little is still up and down for the Gers. The back 4 all look rubbish right now.

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Wouldnt have broadfoot or goian near the team after last week.

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But ur sure of broadfoot ?? thank god u aint the manager

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I agree other than Goian, Boca and Broadfoot mate.

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It could be:

Goram
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Ricksen Gough Greig Albertz
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Gascoigne Jig Durrant
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McCoist Hateley Laudrup

Think it would rule. Left Jig in cause I want to give youth a chance. Was gonna include Bomber Brown, but the pub's are open at the same time.

Best of luck to you all!!

Shug

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16 Aug 2012 15:48:37
Come on fellow Bears let's get to Ibrox on Saturday and get the place rocking.Let's make sure it's a sell out. FOLLOW FOLLOW WATP

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16 Aug 2012 14:09:40
Team for Saturday:

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Broadfoot Goian Bocanegra Wallace
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Different back line, other than Wallace.

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16 Aug 2012 14:03:30
was reading through the tweet from MORITZ and some of his english is hard to make out but u really get the impression that he wanted to play for rangers and tha ally really liked him, he said the risk was to high.im just thinking maybe there was money issues or they didnt meet his demands why would he just refuse point blank to play in a bounce game. although he is away to england now so maybe hes just a money grabber after all.

also would rather rangers went back to a solid 4-4-2.play cole instead of broadfoot and i love big jig to bits but a think hes the drive,determination and courage we lack in midfield with little and sandaza up top l thoughts guys

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Maybe he realised you are in bottom league

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Still think Green is hedging on being in restructured SPL next season. If he isn't things could unravel very quickly next summer.

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16 Aug 2012 13:59:40
Rangers take 21 year old Australian starlet Francesco Stella on trial as Italian club Siena release him.
Source: the rag, daily record.
WATP Stevemac

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16 Aug 2012 13:48:18
Just would like to say congrats to Ian Black on his first Scotland cap last night. I think it waas disgusting to boo someone on probably the best night of his life so far especially after the Olympics crowds were so good...back to business as usual for the lunatic fringe.

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Celtic fan here who totally agrees with you.
The booing was a disgrace.

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Would this be the same lunatic fringe who wanted him strung up for his tackle on jelavic?

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Just watched STV finished 15 mins ago and interviewed Scottish tartan army rep, interviewed black and a Scotland coach. Then back to studio and it was suggested it was Hearts fans. So Ed was wrong suggesting it was Hibs fans. I criticised Dd and he didn't put up my post! {Ed001's Note - so Hearts fans were booing there own player in an Aussie shirt? Because McGowan was getting booed too.}

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16 Aug 2012 13:44:57
Let me get this straight, the spl are holding monies due to the oldco being liquidated, right?, then why are they hitting the newco with transfer bans and fines that clearly should have died with the oldco? seems charlie boy was right after all, now the world can see what a vindictive corrupt organisation the spl are. wonder if the sfa will step in, answers on a postcard please.....col.....

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Its the SFA that have hit you with a transfer ban not the SPL so I guess their not going to step in. Doh!

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Absolute rubbish, stop pretending to be stupid. The penalties are entrance requirements for the club to get into Scottish football. End of.

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Your having a laugh you ran the sfa for years , nothing said then

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OP - the SPL have decided to split the money that was owed to us between the other 11 clubs,nice work if you can get it!

JG

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@2 No the penalties are to prove that the SFA and SPL are in charge, or try to be, nothing about entrance into scottish football. Both the sfa and spl need RFC in scottish football, get it!

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16 Aug 2012 13:31:12
It strikes me that with the recent warming to Charles Green that Rangers CEO truly is the easiest job in the world. It only requires two things to find the disgruntled masses giving you fullsome praise, it really is that easy.

1) Sign players way beyond the requirements of the league job in hand. If you can win the league with wages of £20m, make it £35m. If you can do it with wages of £4m, make it £6m.

2) The key one, get the masses onboard by launching attacks on percieved enemies and making mad promises you will never keep in a million years. SPL - doesn't matter if they followed the rule book. SFA - doesn't matter if their actual punishment was a fudge compromise that actually didn't impact Rangers too much. Nor that they bypassed numerous rules to get Rangers back in, nor that they created a "temporary license" to allow the club to play. Attack the BBC, even if they were right about the then owner being more than a touch dubious and if their two contracts documentary was pretty much on the money. Then, and this is good, attach yourself to a club legend, come out with insane promises such as a 25 year contract for an unproven, tactically questionable manager.

I really think we should reallocate certain teams nicknames, the way you so easily follow, follow without engaging your brain or acknowledge facts suggests to me you are more like sheep than any Aberdeen fan.

Shed the wool, grow a pair and look at things for what they are, not for what you or whichever CEO wants them to be.

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Well written, good points and accurate. But I bet you get more disagrees than agrees.

Most Rangers fans are a Chairman's dream, hit it with the bigotry, everyone's against us, blatantly twist the truth, a few slogans thrown in, a few boasts that make you sound better than you are, ignore absolute facts, give them a wee cup of tea...etc....they won't question you, they will follow, follow blindly again & again & again.

Perfect patsies.

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And what colour of glasses are you looking at the world through mate?
Not that it matters that much,but you'd be more recognisable,you haven't even left a tag name.
Don't really know anything about you do we?but you sure got some opinions and advice for us bears.
However the main message i seem to be getting from your inane rant is that we should stop supporting our club??
The fans at every football club subsidise the signings and wages of their players through season ticket sales and other retail outlets,why should we be any different? So away back to your wee hidey hole and eat your cheese.
P.O.B.

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Bigotry, Green was and is correct. Let me explain to you that the SFA are enemies in the eyes of Rangers supporters. You wait and see when the admin notices go up round the SPL clubs, we will see if they are dealt with in the same manner.
You state that SPL followed the rule book, well that is rubbish, there was no rule in place, the same as the transfer embargo from SFA tribunal. Illegal and unjust and yet we are blackmailed to accept it.
This would be the same rule book as used when Well went into admin, no penalties at all.
The rest of Scottish football, except Celtic, have ripped us off for years, why do we pay £10 more for a ticket that the Dons fans pay?

I stood in a queue for five hours yesterday to buy my ticket, just face it all the provincial teams can only dream of such a thing, and that's for div three. How many Aberdeen fans would be there if they were in div three.

One man, two dogs and a flock. We will have more people at Ibrox on Saturday than the six SPL games have added together.

Enjoy your last kick because believe me we are going to make you lot suffer big time and I am looking forward to it.

I will never set foot in any Scottish SPL grounds again, no more ripping us off.

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I, like tens of thousand others, renew our season tickets year after year because we SUPPORT our team - no wonder the SPL is in financial ruin if that concept is so alien to you ......

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Haha, considering all the celtic supporters wanted Lennon out when they were 15 behind in the league, the team getting booed etc, then Rangers get decimated from Craig Whyte, Celtic win the league, and now Lennon could be an EPL manager.
Don't make me laugh trying to make out Celtic fans don't follow blindly, then turn on their manager and team when things go wrong.

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P.O.B, OP here, I never mentioned anything about not supporting your club. If you want a short synopsis it is this "stop believing every word out of a new CEO's mouth just because its wrapped up in a Rangers banner". Was the BBC right about Whyte, yes or no?

@3) You started "let me explain" and then you explained bugger all, where are the facts, indiscriminate facts, against Rangers?

Regards the rulebook, the precedent had been set by Gretna and Livingston, jeez are you still flogging that long dead horse? Division 3 was the inevitability of...wow...guess what? Two previous CEO's overspending and feeding you bulls*** and what do you know we're back at my first point again!

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@4) are supporting your team and not blindly buying every catchphrase mutally exclusive? If over 30,000 season tickets sold is true then I applaud that, it is a phenomenal effort, it doesn't make Charles Green a legend overnight, it doesn't mean you have to applaud him for his 25 year contract nonsense. There are some ocassions when you warm to someone because they say something you don't want to hear, not something you do, these have been garbage pladitudes, nothing more, nothing less. It's season ticket selling time, he'll promise you Messi if he needs to.

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@3
If any SPL club goes into administrtion they will get a 10 point deduction, like Rangers did. So exaclty the same treatment.
What happens after that will depend on the financial situation, but they will probably get a CVA accepted and not go into liquidation, because they are unlikely to have such a large debt. Why, because the banks don't throw money around as they did in the past, the other clubs run on smaller budgets and they will probably not owe the tax man anything close to what Rangers may have done.
If, however, they are accused of committing any of the other breaches that Rangers were accused of, then they will be treated in the same way as Rangers as the authorities have sent certain precedents.
Remember the only reason that Sevco had to face a vote to determine where they were to play is because Rangers were heading to liquidation.
So get that chip off your shoulder.
Al

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3) here to answer op.

1. If the rule book said div three then fine, it does not it says nothing.
2. The rule book does not give them the ability to impose a transfer embargo. Not in their rule book
3. So we take to court and win and they threaten us with no place in SFL.
4. So we are in the right and are blackmailed into accepting a delayed illegal embargo.
5. They threaten stripped titles and decide our guilt in two weeks. It has taken the HMRC tribunal six months and still no decision.
6. They then try to blackmail the SFL chairmen to parachute us into div one.
7. They then renege on a deal to pay the clubs as promised
8; when Green says bigotry caused them to not allow us into SPL that is correct. The problem with this narrow minded country is that as soon as you mention bigotry you think of religion. However neither you or the SFA have the ability to read a dictionary for the definition of bigotry. It includes anyone that does not agree with your opinion. The problem is that you are the uneducated bigot, and Regan (the purveyor of religious bigoted emails) accuses us of bigotry.

So explained it now?

The problem is that this happened in the close season when so called fans threaten to boycott their own teams if they allow Rangers into SPL. That was not caused by desire for the good of the game, it's because these other fans have taken beatings from us for years and don't like us. Whether or not it financially ruins the game is of no interest, they wanted to kick us. The chairmen of SPL clubs did not want this because they want our fans money. So St Johnstones 667 vans that could be bothered voting did so, and backed their chairmen into a corner. Forget about the 50000 Rangers fans, they don't matter, but their money does. Sporting integrity my arse.

The problem is that you are one of these narrow minded bigots and because you don't agree with my opinion makes you one, as per the definition. FACT

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#7 - poster 4 here - your totally missing my point - my point is we are buying so many tickets as we do every other year - it has nothing to do with David Murray, Craig Whyte or anything Charles Green has to say - because Rangers are our team - and I mean team not the company, not the chairman or Chief Exec - that's why the OP is so far off the Mark with his inane nonsense

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@9: so everyone who disagrees with someone else's opinion is a bigot?

And the rule book says that when a club is liquidated they have to apply as a new entity - new Rangers were denied entry to the SPL and accepted into the SFL division 3 - there was no demotion as the new club wasn't in any league.

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If I don't agree with you 3) then I'm a bigot in your tiny mind. I posted first and you didn't agree with me, doesn't that make you...well you know the rest (I hope).

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@10 OP here, sorry I was 7 too, just forgot to say so. Maybe we are at cross purposes here but my initial post wasn't referring to ticket sales as such, just folk "warming" to Charles Green, you're right it doesn't impact ticket sales for a club like Rangers with the support it has. I was talking about how after saying what the fans wanted to hear, he was being viewed in much better terms. All I said in essence was that after Whyte I'd be a bit more reticent in buying into all that a CEO says and a bit more concerned about wage levels that go way beyond the requirements of Divisions 3 & 2.

No where did I mention season ticket sales, I was talking about Green's popularity, different things entirely.

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16 Aug 2012 11:58:25
proud to be a gers fan today.

season ticket sales going really well.

great to see us all rally round to support our grewat club.

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I am a Celtic fan, however I have to say hats of to you. I for one didn't believe you would sell anything like that amount.

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To the celtic fan its nice to hear some niceties for a change cheers.

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Good point poster 2, I am really tired of all the bickering between OF fans, its wearing now.

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16 Aug 2012 10:50:41
Now is the chance s to be respectful of all away supporters & enjoy & make good Friends in town that our club visit - First time poster

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Good day fellow Bears…
One of the best posts I have read in a long time, well said mate.
We have a chance to let the footballing world see what we are about, so let’s just play football, get to where we want to be and have a blast doing it.

It’s great being a bear.
Rosehearty true blue.

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Op. Thank you for posting that.Maybe some of the idiots will read it,can only hope they think about it and see how much good it would do us all--and them.They have given our club a very bad image over years and it's a chance now to change.I don't want to be embarrassed by their antics anymore.

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Get a grip mate.
Dtp89

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Aye right, your well a Falkirk fan pal haha.

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I wholeheartedly agree, if all first time posters had your attitude, the world would be a brighter, better place.

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If the idiots dont stop the bile they sing they are going to cost the club more money fines witch we dont have.

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Sorry buddy, didn't mean to post that under your comment. Had difficulty with my phone. It was for a comment earlier.
Dtp89

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Well said lets drag them all into the twenty first century and enjoy the journey back we dont need all the old songs hate lets bring fun to the games all the way back to the top "singing dont worry about a thing cause every little thing is goin to be alright " love it its fun ;;;;;;cooperboy

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Still quoting Bob Marley? Thought he was a Celtic fan. You'll be quoting Jim Kerr and Rod Stewart next

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16 Aug 2012 06:59:13
Good result against the Aussies fellas. How was the game? and standout performances?

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The game was awful, standout performers, possibly Snodgrass he was OK. The defence was dire, lucky that Fox wasn't sent off for a deliberate hand ball to stop a goal.

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The aussies must be rank rotten if we beat them because we are mince.

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Thanks for the info guys though can't understand why there's so many disagrees. Surely any win for the dark blues is a good win, no?

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16 Aug 2012 07:18:35
Really struggling with this OldCo NewCo thing. Ed039 says that you are a NewCo so why should you pay Dundee Utd!! Then all the fans on here say that you are the same company.

Either be a NewCo with start again, no debt and only an affiliated claim by the fans ( cause they haven't changed) to the history.

Or be an OldCo and accept punishment for liquidation, work to pay off all footballing debts and have a proper claim to your history.

This "it was the holding company that went bust" is a lot of crock. Rangers went bust. Accept it and Build a NewCo for the future the fans can be proud of.

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Gawd, this has been done to death. Hey, Ed(s), any chance of providing a FAQ or something on the oldco/newco, transfer of membership etc thing somewhere? {Ed001's Note - people don't read those kind of things anyway, they just ignore it.}

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We have paid all Scottish football debts, move on.

BTW - I never knew that CG waived the £2.5m that Rangers were due for finishing runners up last season?! We have been screwed from every angle here bears

J

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Nobody has gone but the 'oldco' known as RFC 2012 are in administration. The 'newco' The Rangers Football Club Ltd play in division three using the 'oldco' football share.

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Rangers FC 1872 -still going
Rangers FC ltd 1899 - this is what failed , not the football Club , but the company

Footballing debts ?

How about the money Everton owe us over £2million
How about £800k the SFA owe us
How about the £2.5m the SPL owe us

that should cover the footballing Debts

BF

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Legally we are a newcomer mate. But some things like owing poor clubs money is kinda a moral choice. Few teams said bad stuff bout us though, so depends how you look at it.
Dtp89

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Does the J stand for JOKE? Cause it is your dead club that has screwed clubs and ppl from every angle, who don't you ask rapid vena, arsenal, man city, spl clubs and lots more? What don't yous get, you can't rack up 135mill of debt then go bust and think you can get away with it. Deal with it your club racked up so much that it ended one club and punishes the other, you can't have a get out of jail free card.

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It is not Rangers that are causing this problem. We are asking the SFA, and the SPL to clarify whether we are the Oldco, Newco or Both. The response is inconclusive, and we are whatever suits them on that day of the week !

If we are a Newco (no history, start a fresh, etc) then why do we have to take the penalties and debts of the old club?

If we are the Oldco then why do we not get the SPL earnings from last season?

Alternatively we are a Newco who is able to take the history of the Oldco, but must take punishments for the Oldco (Division 3, Fines, Football Debts inc. Europe, No 2011/12 SPL Earnings, No Europe for 3 years, and No TV Money), but then is this list of penalties acceptable for having a self-vetted owner under SFA process who intentionally did not pay tax .... in otherwords wanted Rangers liquidated.

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16 Aug 2012 02:57:50
If I was Ian Black I would not play for Scotland again, after the shameful treatment he received from the so called support after coming on as a sub tonight. bluenosecraig

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Get a grip m8, It'll Hibs fans giving him the treatment last night.
maybe something to do with being a ex jam tart ..
Dont take things so personal as its nothing to do with him playing for us or about being a third division player ...

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Forgot to say .. you watch scotland thats funny

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With his style of play and reputation, he's probably used to that kind of treatment. Which is why he's in the team.

McWulf

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I have never turned my back on club or country, a few idiots booed black. hibs fans i would say with no brain cells. i have been at ibrox when our own fans have booed our own players . edu , broodfoot , super ally had his times, mo johnson the list is endless. do not give up on rangers or scotland , get behind them . 1998 is a long time without a compition .

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I remember Rangers and Celtic fans booing him after some of the outrageous tackles he made on each of our players. (Jelavic springs to mind, pit he din't spring out the way)

At least we didnae sign him.

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If it is the case that it was Hibs fans booing an ex Hearts player, which it was to a certain extent given the treatment of McGowan then why were they not booing Andy Webster?

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STV tonight raised the issue had black on and a senior tartan army rep and a Scotland coach........ It was suggested it was hearts fans booing nothing to do with Hibs fans at all.

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16 Aug 2012 02:05:08
Instead off signing all these Older players with no sell on value, we should be buying young talent like martin boyle from montrose, dundee have just agreed a fee or him 22 goals in div 3 last season, c'mon ally wake up a bit. W.A.T.P billy the bear

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Maybe the issue with players under contract is paying a fee?

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Hate to break this to you Einstein but the players with the ability to play in Divisions 2 or 3 don't tend to command a transfer fee, Infact transfers involving money are few and far between way down there.

What's that? £9M for Ki, £12M for Wanyama, £7M for Ledley, oh Hooper £10M, Stokesy £5M . . . oh it's tough t the top!

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I no no sell om means wages for players with no value noe mr green u tell me how rangers will be in a better position than celtic at end of season when u look celtic should get 2 the champions group stage thats 15mill wanyama will be sold after that and thats about 10mill and ki is 2 be sold 2 qpr for 7 mill so that is 32mil all in so mr green explain

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The second post was hilarious. These are the sort of posts I love. I bet that guy really believes that as well. I don't know whose valuation is furthest off, possibly Hooper's the guy is a tap in merchant.

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15 Aug 2012 23:26:30
Let us not worry about booing, it is time to show we are better. We have taken all that can be thrown against us and we are still standing. My personal feelng is that Mr Charles Green is doing a good job and the pendulum has now swung above the head of the spl, who are now behind the 8 ball. Clubs will go to the wall but we will help those that are in the sfl, so those that stuck the boot in, LOOK OUT.

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Look out,we will remember etc,etc. Your grasp on the facts of this is staggering.Green will be exposed,mark my words,everything he is doing is to sell season tickets.He might have got the same result with coming clean to fans but did not.Why? I would guess the large tab you are running up to Greens consortium might be the reason.

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You say it's time to show we are better and then finissh by saying "LOOK OUT to those who stuck the boot in!? Also as for Mr Green - DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THIS MAY. He is a very shrewd business man.!

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@1stop it my sides are hurting with laughing at the bulls,,t coming from you and your kind. Comon then tell us silly rangers fans how you know these things did green phone you upand tell you all this or as I expect you are just bitter that rangers survived and you keep making this nonsense up to keep your deluded mind happy. Maybe green is dodgy but it has become apparent so is the rest of Scottish football. The bottom line is we have to get behind. Green or else our club will definetley die and we ain't about to let that happen without a fight

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15 Aug 2012 23:25:24
For years rangers have acted in a proffesional manner concerning situations with regards to speaking out. The club has always kept information within and never hit at other clubs or organisations. But now I think Green is right and it's about time we did some shouting of our own! Where was the punishment to lawell for his comments on refs being biased? We need a fighter and greens speaking out loud for us! So I say well in there and get it right up the SFA and the rest! WATP!

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Acting in a professional manner.Don't make me laugh (again) SFA a are going to make a fortune from Green & McCoists professional
manner.Trust me

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Blah,blah.Lets see some financial facts from Green before hailing him eh?

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"The club has always kept information within" - Murray leaked numerous stories to the succulent lamb brigade. "Never hit out at other clubs" - tried to get five of them out of Scottish football in the 60's. "Or organisations" - what about McCoist demanding the names of the panel, Green calling people within bigoted?

I appreciate your club's history, or lack of, is under debate currently but would you please refrain from rewriting it!

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Green made a fool of himself in the early days of his involvement. But I've been quite impressed with him the last few weeks.

McWulf

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15 Aug 2012 22:22:22
New campaign to start:

Naismith, McGregor and Whittaker play for Scotland = We don't go!

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Will always support the Gers and our national team. We missed out on money for these 3 and I agree, it's a sore one, especially with naismith, considering we nursed him through two bad spells, thought he would have done the same for us, but flying the flag for Scotland is a privilege and if these guys can enhance our squad, I'm happy to cheer them on.

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Get a grip mate.
Dtp89

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Wow, just focus on your team & forget trying to start a new "campaign". You sound petty & bitter.

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So if you earned 25k per year and wee asked to take a wage cut to 9k or move to another company what would you do? The clues in the word professional.

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Shouldn't be going anyway as long as Doncaster, Regan and co run our game.

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I hope you don't, Scotland doesn't need fans like you. And no I'm not a Timmy or anything else, I'm a Rangers fan. It's people with your attitude that booed Black last night. The SFA and SPL are a shambles, Craig Levein isn't covering himself in glory and Scott Brown normally plays for Scotland but the team still represent our country to the best of their ability and that is good enough for me. If you want to stop going because some players walked out on us ten that's up to you but if Naismith scores the goal that takes us to the world cup, I would still go through the roof!

Grant

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Why ?

These poor guys former employers went bust and they had to find alternative employment!

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Another campaign.So if you go to a Scotland game and these players come on
you would boo them.What you peepil like
Pot,kettle,Black (pun intended)

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Achieving what? Yes, Rangers has had a roungh time but fans like you need to grow up.

McWulf

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You are as bad as the Ceptic fans not going to the Scotland games as they would rather see the Irish play... I smell a rat@!

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@ 5 wtf you on? running our game has nothing to do with the 3 players looking after their own bank balance etc

shona baird

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