Rangers Banter Archive August 16 2011

 

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16 Aug 2011 23:30:33
Shagger
Whitts, juhasz, goian,Wallace
Bedoya, danns, Davis, Naismith,
Jelavic, goodwillie

Subs- hemed, Conway, papac, Bartley, McKay


What might have been if mr w was not as tight as a ducks arse.

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Jamie Ness is better than Danns anyway

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Better off playing with 10 than have whitts there

T-Bear

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16 Aug 2011 22:51:47
Craig Beattie's agent is trying to get him a years loan move from Swansea to Rangers or Hearts, not saying we are interested, but his agent will be touting him from tomorrow.......he's on premiership wages and won't play, has a year to go and is looking to come up the road, would he do us a turn for a season? source-my wife's cousin plays with the Swans (cannae get a game either)

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Let's hope it's hearts

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Might do us a turn for a season, big Rangers man......strong quick and can score, not brilliant, but we could get rid of the other Beattie who is on 15+ per week and doing nothing.

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Aye, tied them down so the asking price is higher. aw this talk of us being debt free etc, aye we may not owe to the bank but its just been moved to another firm.
smoke and mirrors - not a happy bear. your telling me that craig conway wouldnt have been a good addition to our squad on a free.

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16 Aug 2011 23:04:32
Why does everyone get on whytes back he tied down mcgregor and whittaker and davis on new deals which was as important and getting in new players

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So he can get more when he punts them

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I coz whittaker is a guid player

T-Bear

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Exactly, pay them for a wee while, then sell them

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16 Aug 2011 22:38:26
russia clubs spend stupidly big because they dont naturally attract players. 15-20 mil for jelavic id sell anyday

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16 Aug 2011 22:32:33
ed do you no if weiss contact runs out in 2012 cause if i does then why r we trying to get him in on loan when we can just get him on a pre contact in januray {Ed001's Note - maybe so you can have him before 2012.}

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We aint trying to get him on loan moron

T-Bear

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16 Aug 2011 22:16:23
anyone think we should change the name of ibrox with a sponsership, it would generate a good sum of money for transfers good way to make money. what u think ed ramie govan front

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Yes doesnt matter what its called still be ibrox to the fans

T-Bear

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16 Aug 2011 22:34:51
Hi edi boy, everton r taking bids of 2.5 mil for beckford thts a good buy we shuld bid for him hopefully we culd sneak him away from leicester what u lads fink?
........... WATP JOHN A {Ed003's Note - Could Rangers match the wages Leicester will offer?}

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Stop it...he'd need to be 400k for us to be interested, then we'd offer 200k

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He isn't going to come to our crappy league and be on bad wages

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16 Aug 2011 22:20:52
Team for Thursday

McGregor

Broadfoot Goian Perry Wallace

Ness

Edu Davis

Naismith Ortiz

Jelavic

Hopefully Wilson could come in at centre half along side Goian. But apart from that we haven't got any other options, unless Bartley's fit.

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16 Aug 2011 22:15:19
On STV website Rangers made £16.6m from their european run last year and £14m the previous year. That is over £30m on top of season ticket sales of about £9m each year I make that roughly £48m yet we STILL owed bank millions what type of people were handling our affairs. hate to say it but Celtic with nowhere near our euro money have no debt left to speak of (OK £0.5m) so what is Lawwell able to do at parkhead that our financiers seem unable to do at Ibrox? Someone needs a lesson in accounting somewhere in Ibrox. Wee Bud

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Pay tax?

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Your right, i've thought for a long time that there is a bit of jiggery pokerey going on.

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They have a multimillionair owner. {Ed047's Note - they both do

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16 Aug 2011 22:14:20
Vitali Kutuzov is available on a free transfer, he is a very good player. Similar to kenny miller. Quick, will run the channels. Worth a look.

Rory

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16 Aug 2011 22:07:56
This is how much we made in the Champions League last season:

www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/uefaorg/Finance/01/66/11/07/1661107_DOWNLOAD.pdf

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16 Aug 2011 22:05:29
To all the people who say Whyte has no money. He must have some sort of money to be able to buy other companies and build them up so they are making money then sell them on for a profit, even if he done that with Rangers then i dont see a problem coz more people would be interested in buying the club if we didnt have the debt we had when he took over. Before anyone says we still have debt, yes we do but no threat of administration or banks taking control. the hmrc thing is all about finished although there is absolutely no way we can sue them as they are not a company or single person but we could sue the person that leaked the info to the papers. Why are you all doubting Whyte he is a gers fan as am i he also has Ellis on board, i know alot of you prob dont trust him either but you have to give them a chance, their is still another 2 weeks left til the window shuts then you will all be shouting his praises for not lying about spending money. Ibrox has had alot of money invested in it also since Mr. Whyte took over so again it does sound like he does have money. I dot see why everyone is so scared give whyte a chance

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Finally somebody who is being positive

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Thanks, i dont know why others are so against the man. same with coisty he has big boots to fill given the chance and experience he will do the job, it is exactly the same situation that Walter Smith had when he took over from Souness.

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Mate i totally agree with you and ally mcoist will do a good job a just know it

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You are so wrong, the whole thing is a mess, you just can't see it.... Open your eyes, the transfer fiasco's have been a complete and utter shambles and a total embarrassment to the great name and history of GLASGOW RANGERS, remove the blinkers man.

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Seen as your such a bigfan make sure you are buying a couple of extra season tickets this year to support the club through challenging times.... Mr Whyte is a life long fan and has tipped in at least over 20M, the club and fans shouldnt have a problem with him bringing stability to the club and we shouldnt be fluttering away money because he has it otherwise we will be back in the same position in no time. Stay the course Mr Whyte the real fans are 100% behind you, Ally and the club.
An estimated 150 thousand fans travelled to Manchers for the cup final two years ago, if we could get them all to contribute or donate 100 pounds each to the club we could have a fantastic outcome for the club in terms of financially and we could buy the big names fans like you are calling for, so if your so passionate then put your hand in your pocket...
Soilder on Mr Whyte

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16 Aug 2011 21:41:58
with the imaginery stories on here today it must be a record day for posts by deluded runners up fans

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16 Aug 2011 21:41:56
Anyone know whats happening with Rhys Murphy??

Rory

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16 Aug 2011 21:27:46
why all the anti whyte stuff? rangers will be running at profit soon..... using ibrox as many ways possible to generate income made me sick reading that mob are running smoothly financialy..... also not being held to ransom with buying players etc.... although do wish we could tie up the boy wydle

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Rangers skint and Wylde is p***, we're looking to make someone a superstar, and we ain't got any coming through

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16 Aug 2011 21:17:53
Whats with all this negativity. I for one am optimistic for the future. I know I'll get it in the neck from all you sceptics, but I'm willing to give Whyte the benefit of the doubt. You guys just think he can spend millions ala David Murray. No, gone are those days. We have still brought in players, for little money, and who may make this club a fortune come the future, thats Whyte's philosophy.

Football has changed. Theres no way we can throw 12 million down the drain for a Tore Andre Flo. Its all about wise spending. Our youths can also have a big future at the club. Who would have thought the likes of Jamie Ness could get into the first team and be man-of-the-match on a few occasions. The youths should follow his lead. Thats where most of the squad depth is coming from in the future.

Start being optimistic. Now is not the time for any unnecessary criticism at anyone, or finger-pointing. Its time to get behind the team and look forward to a brighter future together.

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Xsactley mate people think if you don't spend massive amounts of money on one player there gonna be s**te but they talk s**te

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16 Aug 2011 21:04:03
No source here, just gut feeling. My gut feeling is usually right. I hear people come into my work every transfer window saying "my friends aunties cousins son works at ibrox blah blah blah" then i come on here n hear all the same sh..crap. 99.9% of it is always total nonsense. Ive always used common sense to put what the papers say and probability of things together to make my own theories and evaluations. So here's my prediction.. I don't think anymore players will leave Ibrox this summer, except maybe Wylde, only because of the crap wage's Rangers are offering. I'd say with 90% certaintity Jelavic will still be a Rangers player, only 10% of doubt comes from the chance of a BIG money offer coming from somewhere, I'm talking £9million +.
I believe we will make a maximum of 3 more transfers, excluding loans, probably being a central Defender, a left winger and a striker. I don't believe we'll spend more than £6million doing so. Remember this, this time last year, who had we signed? The year before that at this time of year, who had we signed? We have a good core of players, with they extra players we bring in, it will only enhance the squad. Support the team, Support Ally and let everyone go about there business at Ibrox in the manner they have done so far, because realisticly, White has gone about his business quielty and professionaly. My only complaint is, why do we blab to the press about who we are targeting and on 1 or 2 target's, if we really did want them, why not pay the going rate? Appart from that, ive been pretty impressed. These things take time perhaps, trial and error, or maybe they have better knowledge of the finer details and players real worth, but hey, it's still too early to be too judgemental. Support the team and im sure the plaeyers and management will get the results we all want.

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Totally agree mate, we dont have the same money we used to have in the good old days,Its a new era and we need to get behind super Ally and the team.I think we need 4 more players in and as you said you dont always have to spend a fortune to get agood player.Lets judge on 1st September and see where we are at New Year.rumours are rumours and part of the fun and the media just try to play each other off.i too dont like the babbing coming out and i do wonder if someoone from the old regime is the leak,buts thats todays world.There will be good and bad times but always support the team.
WATP AND HERS TO 4 INA ROW.
Gordie 46
WATP and hers to 4 in a row

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16 Aug 2011 20:58:36
To the guy that wants to know how for kersakov How much money do u actually think we have we are only a few months into being able to actively go into the transfer market we will be lucky if we spend £5 million in the next 2 windows The club needs stability not wreckless spending as that is why we are in this position and i for 1 am glad whyte isnt goin in to heavily on transfer fees clubs have saw us coming for years and its time that stop and if u look around u can find quality for very little money

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16 Aug 2011 20:47:28
Does anybody remember the Celtic fans demonstrating in the street when they were in financial turmoil. They backed the club into changing. We did nothing, we sat back and watched a bank put us into the s**t. If all of us had made a point by taking our money from lloyds they would have backed down, but we sat on our arses moaning, we let mr Murray away with murder and he got next to no serious criticism. This is the man that has potentially put us into administration with the potential tax liability. This is the man who claimed to be a custodian of the club, some custodian. He then approved this latest joker despite warnings from the board. Now the realism is setting in, he had no money, and mark my words when they go into administration, Murray park will be sold to Ellis and whyte will sell for property development and disappear with his pockets full. The club should never have been sold to one person. There were150,000 people in Manchester, if all had put the same as they spent that night the fans could have bought the club. They would be proper custodians. Had we the fans done the same as them from the other side we might not be in the mess we are in. We deserve all we get.

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You are so right we dont have bottle

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You really are "the glass is half empty" type of guy aren't you You have no clue what will happen to our club. We could win the case, we could win the league....AGAIN We could sign a few more players before the window shuts, who the he'll cares how little they cost as long as they do the job and play for the jersey, we could then clear the debt by winning the case, we could then buy better players and we could then win the league again and again and again......get the picture? Did you believe we would win 9iar? Most likey not, you probably thought Walter wasn't fit to lace Souness boots
Maybe time will prove you right, I would prefer to think we can achieve anything by supporting our team, I would prefer to look at the last three seasons and see us on our knees yet defy all odds and lift another 3 titles.

You carry on your way, I'll carry on mine thank you.

GDog
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I hope you are right, but I fear not. It is not that the glass is half empty, the bank account is completely empty. I just wish someone to explain why Ellis is involved. He is a property developer. The only property to develop is Murray park. Would you give me 25 per cent of your house if I introduced you to the seller. Of course you would not. As it happens I really think Murray park is an absolute ego trip for mr Murray. Why we need 8 pitches I don't know. We won the ecwc by training in the car park. I am not saying that we should go back to that, but there is a happy medium. Why not develop the area surrounding ibrox fir training ground. Just worried that if we do sell Murray park that rfc will not see the money.

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16 Aug 2011 20:19:29
wish all you guys would get behind the team. if ally would just realise that sir walters formula of parking the bus is old hat now and be his own man we would get on a lot better. sod maribor there no better than a sfl team. go for them ally. 4 4 2 at least. we need to be in europe and this comp is probably more realistic for us.. sausage bear

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Always behind the team and the manager,but the owner is out of his depth.
Sir Walter would not have put up with what is going on though.

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Walter Smith put up with MUCH worse...

daviet

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Do you think if walter smith wanted goodwillie he would have got him?, do you think if walter smith knew we couldn't pay for goodwillie he would have allowed a phoney bid?

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P*sh record in europe p*sh record in england couldnt wait to get rid of him first time around now you want him knighted priceless

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16 Aug 2011 20:13:22
Why is everybody giving the lad Murray Davidson stick just because he plays for St.Johnstone, clearly if you say he is rubbish you havent seen him play because so just dont talk bulls**t, he is a decent player.

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He's p*sh.... never stood out when he's played against us or the jungle jims. can't even remember hearing his name mentioned when we play st johnstone.

the lego-eater and Thomo the tim basher were stand outs when the Hibs played us or the other mob.

Jody Morris is 10 times the player Davidson will ever be

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Murray Park should be full of Murray Davidson 'type' players, if it's not, we should build flats and just train somewhere.....Davidson is a very very average SPL footballer....if we can't produce better, we're done.

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For the Jody Morris poster.......i just said to my mate at the weekend, based on the type of player we are trying to get at the moment, we could do worse than go for Jody Morris on a one year deal, i think he could do a good job and is capable of going right in.....not long term stuff, but worth a look. Davidson is dire.

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Aye mate, I'm the one who said Morris is better than Davidson, and I totally agree.

Morris is intelligent, see's a pass, can break up play and stamp's his authority on a match.

I'd take him for our squad, the wee man's still got it.

Mark WATP

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16 Aug 2011 20:01:53
We are in big trouble, David Murray has provided the final insult by ditching our club into the hands of an 'astute' business man who will profit from our financial situation. Whyte is dangerous and is not here to bail us out, we should not be surprised as the outgoing board warned us all publicly.
Season ticket money and revenue from adam & bougherra outweigh expenditure. 5 year deals being handed out are only there to provide sellable assets when required. I smell phoney bids and phoney interest in players with no genuine attempts to sign any half decent players.
The fantastic team spirit which have saved us over the last 3 championships will be stretched to the limit and we are in danger of having no european football, if that happens I fear that Jelavic,McGregor etc will be sacrificed.

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Just like the phoney bids that went in for Ortiz, Wallace, Goian, McKay & Bedoya, aye?

F*ckin bampot, away back to the mhanky mobs page

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16 Aug 2011 19:05:41
Convince other posters on here that your rumour is a fact by typing "FACT" after every comment in big scary letters...seriously some folk need to get out the house. Blueboy.

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How the F*** can a rumour be ''fact'' it's a rumour......haaaaaaaahhhaaaaaa
Brilliant..

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16 Aug 2011 19:04:33
Im tired of listening to you all making excuses
for the inexcusable for Mr whyte seems to me if you bought into this its your own fault
you cant say you werent warned,god knows where your money will go mine is in my pocket
dont give me crap about not being a real supporter
you are the mugs not me -we can only hope for a miracle now one of those things the other lot always pray for.

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16 Aug 2011 19:03:41
i heard ally mccoist was thinking of being player manager as he thinks he would be better partner for velivic than the rest

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16 Aug 2011 18:20:40
Why is everybody cutting craig whyte as much slack,,we needed players weeks ago and he hasnt even tried to get serious about delivering them,,its beyond a joke now,they ask for your season ticket money and merchandise money and want to hit us with players valued around the 300 grand mark,,we are now a total embarressmentwhy tell us that we would be getting quality players at decent money when its obvious even to a blind man whyte will not part with a penny,,and before anyone jumps on me for saying this its a fact that the money he has spent so far has came from the sale of bouggy and charlie adam

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True - he is an imposter and I will bet anyone that unless we sell, we won't sign anyone over £2m

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The biggest problem here is the 'way' we are conducting our business, i was all for Whyte, but not now.....do we know if he really is a good buisnessman, you can make a few quid, even a right few quid, but when you take on the day to day running of an institution, then things are different.
Whyte, so far has totally and utterly embarassed Rangers with unrealistic bids for numerous players and just carrying out business in the open, when we have no chance of getting players with derisory offers....that is ''not'' good or shrewd business, that is embarrassing and stupid.

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Good post mate,sadly some folk cant or wont admit your correct

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Well said mate the man is a fraud
To many fans on here cannot see
what this man's all about.

Ally Mc

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Oh,and while i,m on my high horse,the lack of investment in players will eventually come back and bite us,possibly starting at fir park,always a hard pac to go to

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16 Aug 2011 17:33:16
Just read that we made £16 Million from our participation in last years champs league. the team that made the most from last years europa league was Villareal who made £8m. Few points to make.

Firstly if Craig Whyte is the canny businessman he keeps making out he is with regards to not paying top dollar for transfers did it not occur to him that if we made an outlay of even just a few million before pre season we would have had a fantastic oppurtunity to make the group stages and make that type of money for the 3rd year running?

Another point is I think it really shows how much we need to play summer football in the SPL. Obv we get rubbish TV money in our league but can you imagine if we played summer football, all the european fans missing out on football could watch the spl and obv all the bookies would have our matches on for fans to bet on with little or no competition as few other leagues would be competing for tv at that time?

Then we would have had a good few months build up so better chance of qualification and also better gates as more people could take their kids to a game on a warm summers day (during the summer hols) than a cold winters night when the game will probs get called off Also we could easily accomodate for world cups and euro championships by shifting the league around by a few weeks when they come up.

Think everything I'm saying here makes sense and don't understand why it didn't and couldn't just happen?

Gutted we're not in the champs league and as next years is an automatic qualification spot we really need to go for it Reckon another year without the champs league would really have the moneymen at the San Giro squirming

Rossco, Cyprus bear

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Agree with everything you say but it probably makes to much sense for SFA/SPL

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You should send this to the SFA

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What about when the world cup is on? even if it starts just after - we're still going to be cutting into a deserved break for the players. I've thought of how this would be a good idea too, but it won't happen for this reason.

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I mentioned in the post that we would shift the league by a few weeks to accomodate these comps. The players would get a break over winter as that would be incorporated to stop games being called off and fans having to go to games in freezing temps.

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16 Aug 2011 17:32:45
to all you bafoons who are telling people to stop with the negativity regarding mr whyte... well he brought it on himself when he said we had 15 million to spend in an interview with jim traynor, so far our net spend is 200k or near, and we are in dier need of new players, we have let bougy go with no replacement, so we are a player down from the malmo tie going into this important qualifier we maribor, you supposive "real fans" need to get real.

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If you actually read the interview,whyte never once mentioned a figure He just said that there would be more available than first thought,it was mr.traynor that added the 15m

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All good points on whyte today although where did he say £15m. He said £5m per year on players with £5m in facilities. The article referred to him not ruling out stretching this investment to £15m for the right players however once he's invested in new contracts a couple of million has gone from the budget. Add the players he's brought in and still in negotiating with, I make that £5m plus so why are we unhappy?

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I just love the fact you're calling people 'bafoons'.

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Supposive thats not even a word ya bafoon

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16 Aug 2011 17:29:56
this really bugs me ... the way the english don't rate our players and don't rate our league .. take charlie adam for example statistics showed he wiped the floor with lampard and gerrard... for goals passes completed penalties scored ect .... yet 9million he sells for.... then take a look a stewert downing 20 million and some of the other younger players going for 16million ect ... it is insane ... andy carrol 30million to david goodwilliies 3 million .. if charlie adam was english he would have been sold for around 30million easy on the back of last seaons exploit ....

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F*** sake man......how can you blame the English? WEE didn't rate Charlie Adam

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16 Aug 2011 17:09:18
lol go onto newcastle rumous i need sum help hear the one that says rumour in glasgow jelavic going to them they trying to say they would hammer us and jelavic is less han average

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Newcastle,the great underachievers ,won sod all for years,great fans,trapped in history ,would finish 3rd in scottish prem.

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Mite have been different rumour I read one about £11 million plus Drinkwater on loan which would be a bit of a miracle as Drinkwater is a Man Utd player who has never even been on loan at Newcastle has TIMWIT all over it

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16 Aug 2011 17:08:57
Come on people, get off Craig Whyte's back. He is nothing to do with the transfer negotiations. Ali Russel and Andrew Dickson. Gordon smith says this on his interview which can be found on the bbc website

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He supplies the bloody money dippy, the man is a fraud

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16 Aug 2011 17:02:29
Blackburn want 2 sign raul enjoy the reserves goodwillie.:-D

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Lollol like it

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He turned them down but why you,re having a go at goodwillie i don,t understand, its us everyone is laughing at not goodwillie

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16 Aug 2011 16:28:11
ed... why do you let timothy on here spouting clear rubbish... when someone refers to the almighty super ally as 'sally' surely you must know its a member of the elite runners up association..... This is meant to be a rumors page is there not banter pages for all that nonsense? {Ed032's Note - all fans can post on this page and that rumour of him beign 7/4 to be sacked by christmas is unfortunately true on some betting websites}

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16 Aug 2011 16:10:22
How far down ally's transfer list are these guys we are signing, apart frm lee wallace what do we know about these players? Prob not fit enough to wear gers jersey, I think any1 thats happy way these players are kidding themselves on, these guys will be dross

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Can't agree with you m8 the reason I am filled with hope with what SUPER ALLY is doing is bedoya and mckay I have watched as much footage as possible of these 2 players and both look good additions 2 sqaud both players r not exactly giants but they r box 2 box players who never stop running both have exceptional skill levels something our team has sadly been lacking when SIR WALTER was in charge if u where not over 6 feet tall u never got in his team I couldn't believe it when he signed davis or beasley look at the season when SIR WALTER was forced 2 play beasley and novo in the same team we scored about 24 goals in 5 games that time what happened when mcculloch and edu were fit beasley and novo dropped and davis moved 2 right midfield the only giants SUPER ALLY is trying 2 sign is defenders he is trying 2 get a more attacking team on the pitch which I am sure most of our fans want
WATP

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To the last post: finally someone who knows what they are talking about Seriously, I loved Walter and all his idiosyncratic ways, however your assessment is spot on. Last season when injuries kicked in towards the end of season he was forced to play 442 with Wylde and it was those 6 or so games we won the league banging in the goals Ally is no fool, when being interviewed I have never heard a manager speak better about their club, not even Fergie. He is the right man and he will get the right players.

WE ARE THE PEOPLE

GDog

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16 Aug 2011 15:57:39
to all my fellow bears ...ally will get players in before end of the window i have ever faith . we have all our best players tied down on new deals and celtic are mince ...4 IN A ROW ......bigt

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16 Aug 2011 15:51:15
PETER LAWWELL the tic chief executive has confessed that Celtic's failure to stop Rangers winning Three in a Row torments him EVERY DAY.

Don’t you just love being a bear.
In Ally we trust, four in a row and counting.

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Don't care about anything that comes from that @rseholes mouth, he is a *^+%$£"

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The deeper the his pain the more I laff GIRFUY and long may it continue 4IAR just 6 TOGO

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16 Aug 2011 15:29:36
What once was will be once more, all you tic’s posting your inert drivel must be getting scared I say this because you are starting to scribe some real pi*h, go back to the dark side o town shoo, get go away your club needs you Fake off.

In Ally we trust. Four in a row, has a ring to it don’t you think.

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16 Aug 2011 15:24:52
God Dose it ever stop, sold a slice of land outside Ibrox, F**k *f*, get a life you Muppet. See this is what happens when you smoke that crap Ha Ha, don’t you just love been a bear.

In Ally we trust..

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16 Aug 2011 14:42:11
To the Gers faithful, please stop all the negative talk, we are one of the largest clubs, it’s true the rangers blood runs through the wee mans veins for sure, so lets cut out the nonsense and ge4t behind him an d the team/club.

Ibrox was once a field of dreams a cauldron to be feared, so lets make it what it once was. Away the Gers. I just love being a bear.

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16 Aug 2011 14:28:28
i wish everyone would give whyte a break , he's done well so far 2 big players sign contracts and whyte put in money towards the debt and he's only been here for a few months

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Whytes only looking for more cash back when/if big bids come in for these guys,instead of the club being in debt it now transpires the clubs owner is in debt,at the end of the day the new owner has not cleared this debt and the question of why it still hasnt been paid remains unanswered?the fans are not been told the full truth here and whyte is taking them for granted and all because he thinks he saved the club,whyte has to realise that there will always be a rangers,whether he appeared or not does not detract this fact.

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16 Aug 2011 14:28:26
Please stop the negatives trust ally he bleeds rangers I am excited about this season retained top players Wallace Ortiz McKay beyoda Bartley goian signed,ness hutton cole fleck Wylde developing McMillan promising stop the rubbish talk unite behind ally whyte smith etc media have an anti rangers agenda we shouldn't inflame it by tearing ourselves apart

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16 Aug 2011 13:44:15
Cmon Gers fans Try and remain positive, yes we are out of the CL, yes things are not looking too clever on the park, however McCoist needs time We want it all and we want it now culture that exists with some gers fans pi**es me off no end I went to most of the games last year and some of the crap fans were coming out with regarding walter was unbelievable We have played 3 league games, we have 7 points - we have made worse starts than this What is the problem? I dont know whether McCoist and this team will be successful, however I WILL support the Manager and the Team
Some fans are NEVER happy though
Stop winging......start supporting
Davie Mac

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16 Aug 2011 13:21:22
I have no inside info and this is only my opinion.
The lack of signings is worrying but could it be the case that we are waiting until closer to the deadline to aquire our targets?
ideally i would have liked to see players brought in earlier but having listened to comments by people in the game regarding the lack of transfers in England and Europe overall.
Most say that clubs don't want to loose their players but this might change nearer the end of the window.
Hopefully Rangers are doing the same and just biding their time.
Of course it could be that we don't have the finance or White is unwilling to back McCoist.
Just trying to be positive as their is a lot of negativity which i can understand.
However come Sep 1st and the squad has not been improved i think strong questions should be asked of the owner.
I am also interested if we will ever hear from the previous chairman regarding his comments on leaving.
BR

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16 Aug 2011 13:09:26
Not a rumour but personally I am just pi$$ed right off with the public pursuit of players and penny pinching. The big money moves that funnily enough collapsed were just a smoke screen, Craig Whyte never had any intention of shelling out that kind of money. Gutted for the legend that is Ally McCoist but once the window closes and we are left with second rate signings I hope the $hit hits the fan and Whyte is brought to task. If we have no money then just tell the fans this, instead you are making a rod for your own back.

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I agree I am starting to think the public pursuit of players is nothing more than a PR stunt to make fans believe that Whyte has money and is willing to spend it. A couple of the players we have been in for did not want to join our great club these things happen and I hope they end their career think what might have been however the other players that expressed the desire should have been tied up at the earliest opportunity. If there is money to spend then lets not loose out on a couple of hundred thousand (easy to say that cos its not my money). I think its time Whyte proved the doubters wrong and showed us that he is willing to invest in the team. Ed - whats you stance on this?

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16 Aug 2011 12:43:01
God bless reality and rational thinking.

Where do you get all this bloody drivel from:
Quote: One way or the other Ally McCoist is out just after Chrimbo, what a load O” sheeite. I liked the comment: Away play with your rubber ducks wee man, in super ally we trust

Here we go again Derek Ferguson, the daily Record, Ray Wilkins, Graham Sourness and Betty Davies And all from a “VERY,VERY good source” I think they meant to say sauce. What a load of single fish, me thinks that these comments are the bye product of drinking far to much shamrock teat, away and bile yir dead min.

In the wee man we trust, this is the start of the Ally dynasty just you see, four in a row, god its great being a bear, and to all you doubters out there get a grip and get behind the man and his cause “he who is Rangers, we are famous however again under Ally we will be great and rich in all things silver..

Away the bears.

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He shdnt ave been manager to begin with FACT

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16 Aug 2011 11:39:59
If you were to believe all the nonsense on this site we should have the best 11 in Europe by now Lets just refrain from putting any more ridiculous rumours up and if get players in GREAT

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16 Aug 2011 12:16:37
ed any update on the mckay deal it seems to be taking ages {Ed001's Note - just waiting on the work permit to be sorted still, that can take months for a normal person so I wouldn't get so stressed.}

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Decision will be made on friday ...bigt

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16 Aug 2011 12:16:35
Why dont we get it from craig whyte in person that ally mcoist will not be sacked for a minimum of two years or more to show all the stoogiies
who keep posting this crap that it does,nt work
grizzleyadams..

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16 Aug 2011 12:11:29
Why has it all went quiet on the
striker front after Goodwillie. ?

We seriously need another quality
striker to play up front with Jelavic

C'mon Ally get a proven goalscorer
in ASAP

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16 Aug 2011 11:48:59
I've not been a craig whyte from day 1 but those asking for david murray to come back are idoits, its his fault the state the club is in he messed up back time.

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16 Aug 2011 09:24:59
does anyone think that potential signings are more for rangers commercial benefit than anything else? Celtic went out and signed a centre half from china, nakamura from japan and a few koreans.At the time it was obvious that they were doing this to break into these markets, are we trying to do the same? I'm not knocking it, it makes good business sense. We are signing bedoya-USA and maybe Bocanegra-Also USA and potentially McKay-Australlia. I think McKay looks a good player, not seen anything of Bedoya and would love to see Bocanegra as a player with his EPL and international experience would be great. WATP.

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16 Aug 2011 11:22:09
I fear the worst now for our club fellow bears, why are we being linked to a 32 yr old centre half who was bought 1 year ago for 400,00 when if we have not secured the signature of juharz then surely we must still have the cash available to spend we are being short changed by Craig Whyte, he has so far only spent 400,000 on players if you factor in the Adam & Bougherra cash. And before you start about him securing our star players on long term contracts this is just to secure Rangers assets to ensure that he gets his money back when HMRC case goes Pete Tong. He has also not got rid of our debt just moved it to his own company (wavetower ltd) which makes him our No1 creditor, this means that if Rangers are put into administration then he will be able to sell our assets(mcgregor,whittaker & davis) for top dollar and get his money back then pick up the club for pennies. This is also why all our "higher" bids are staged over a long period, for example Goodwillie, where we only offered a small initial amount down then payments over a 5 yr period, if the club goes into administration then the payments do not have to be met and we would have been able to sell another asset and Whyte would be first inline for the cash. Believe me i really hope im wrong on this one but it does not look good.

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We cant get jurhaz because his club dont want to sell him . what else do you want rangers to do they offered the money that was asked and anderlecht moved the goalposts other than go and kidnapp the guy what can they do .or do you want to offer more than the guys worth and let anderlecht take the p*** out of us ....bigt

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This makes a scary amount of sense. We were warned before it was completed, i hope to GOD you're wrong but money can be made from this HRMC case going against Rangers and it wont be profitable to the mighty gers but it could be for the sneaky Whyte...I wish Ellis and his multi millions had bought us...

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Its kind of scary the amount of timothys on ere making sh*t up.

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Whyte is a venture capitalist - This should have been your first clue

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I am gers fan have been for 30 odd year an the post is 100% correct

bigt rangers didnt offer the full amount it was with adds as per usual


T-Bear

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With regards to ellis,if he had serious money in the first place,why after due diligence did he not buy rangers?why has whyte given ellis 20% stake in rangers for free,why is whyte reclusive when it comes to answering concerns of the fans,you would think after buying his boyhood heroes he would be singing from the rooftops,something aint rite behind closed doors at ibrox,the fans are hearing more from the dhaily rhags than from the elusive new owner.

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16 Aug 2011 11:19:35
Why pay for bedoya now, when we can get him in january for free. Doesnt make sense to me.

Rory

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We are short in numbers as it is, so the question is wither he is worth 400k for 4 months?

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16 Aug 2011 11:00:50
I haven't seen this dude bocanegra play,but I'd rather see perry given the chance to gain experience,I personelly believe that's the only way forward for rangers is to get the young guys playing....

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16 Aug 2011 10:35:27
Those post slagging off whyte get a grip or get a celtic scarf you should be ashamed to call yourself RANGERS SUPPORTERS if it was not for whyte who knows what state we would be in with the banks short memories shame on you, true blue always

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True mate. if the bank was still in charge shagger an davis plus others would be gone. and nobody brought in. there is still time and ive every faith we will bring in new faces. still want to see a bit of quality up font though with jela.

jmac

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We bought jelavic with the bank 4 million
we ave spent a net 300k with whyte u do the math

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Mate,its called having an opinion,some fans are unhappy with whyte because they feel he isnt giving ally his full backing cash wise,debt wise hes only took on the debt,if he is as wealthy as claimed why has this been shifted and not been paid?if they are so confident of winning the main tax case why has 2 offers of settlement been scoffed at by hmrc?as for the appointment of gordon smith,the less said about him the better.fans dont have to show support for for two bob bit owners but on the other hand they MUST show support for the team.Ive also heard that whyte is only a face and his financial backer is a wealthy glasgow buisiness man,nothing that whyte has done so far makes me think he has financial muscle,he wont last a quarter of the time david murray lasted,dont trust him one iota.

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No1 is allowed an opinion if u dont agree with the fans with blue tinted specs on they aint worth ur time whyte has no cash an lied to the fans our net spending is 300k FACT ita beyond belief they cant see it an whyte making all the excuses it aint his faul we are out the champs league it is his fault an his only

T-Bear

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16 Aug 2011 10:25:52
Could not be happier if Ally, himself or through a 3rd party, is speaking out. It's about time somthing was done. Mibbies now we will see some action. If not I'm guessing McCoist will leave or be pushed

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If ally is speaking out through a third party then he will no doubt be found out and taken to task so he should come out and say whats on his mind if anything at least the fans would support him 100% because if you love this club you should not keep quiet if it is being hurt in the fans ALLY SHOULD TRUST. READY BB

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16 Aug 2011 10:15:21
Why are we going for 3 central defenders? We only need another 2. If we get 2 in we could let Broadfoot go and McCulloch go.

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16 Aug 2011 10:12:19
martin oneil would be a great manger for us, if it does not work out for mccoist. but we all no he would not come to us as he managed celtic. so dont be leaving comments saying oh f him f celtic. most true rangers fans knows he would be a good manager, adn he is a great manager were ever he goes.

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So would jose mourinho, it's just as realistic as o'neil, there's no point in this post.

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That post was pointless u should go on that tv show u might win

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16 Aug 2011 09:09:44
Awryt boys I was good mates with greg wylde at school, don't see him much now but got speaking to him yesterday he was at his cousins in denny, asked him why he wasn't signing a contract its got nothing to do with wages he thinks he doesn't feature in mccoists plans as they are playing someone in his position who doesn't even play there and they are apparently looking to get another winger in, so that's the reason. He doesn't want to not feauture in the team, I can kind of see where he is coming from as he hasn't really put a foot wrong, he's now to old for rangers 19s so if he doesn't play first team he doesn't play at all

Billy90

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He will get a game if he signs a contract, it's a catch 22 situation , why play someone that wants to leave and doesnt have heart in it.

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16 Aug 2011 10:05:52
Lol can I just say that anybody who believes that rubbish people are talking about McCoist & Whyte are gullable and just plain thick. Ally will always be a Rangers legend and is Mr. Rangers, Whyte has put us in a position financially that we wouldn't have been in otherwise. I think the real buisness and big change in Rangers will start when this tax case is resolved and common sense prevails that Rangers don't hold the liability. Rangers till I die.

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Poster of this comment, *gullible* I was a bit highly strung and frustrated with the obvious tims coming on to slag of Rangers haha. WATP.

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I'm always behind Rangers, and think Ally should be given plenty of time, but a great Ranger doesnt always mean a great manager, look at John Greig although he did inherit an ageing team and had no money to spend.

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Same as ally then. he inherited a team and not getting backed with money either

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What if the tax case is resolved, but goes against us ?? Whyte has not put anything into the team, because we went out of C/L, and we went out BECAUSE he put dink into the team. It is time for the blinkered bears to wake up to this man, before it is too late.

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16 Aug 2011 09:44:14
Whyte is an imposter bring back david murray

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16 Aug 2011 08:27:11
Heard on the radio on my nightshift ( just in ) that we are to bid for Bocanegra the big centreback. He is an American with 93 caps and is currently at St Etienne in France. I watched him in the world cup, but cannot say I was impressed, or otherwise. I spoke with a guy in work and he reckons he is a steal at the asking price and his words were, " buy him now, excellent buy"............... Any Bears know anything much about this guy ? We need someone at the back, and a striker. 4 in a row

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16 Aug 2011 08:23:51
Firstly it’s a new day, and its still great being a bear, however as with numerous posts it is absolutely pathetic some of the fees being offered for our first choice targets which can be clearly seen to slip through Smiths scroogie fingers, I think the Tic have employed him to bring the club down Ha ha just joking.

I do however believe that Rangers should offer young Greg Wylde a decent package, he has proved he is worthy and capable, moreover he has a lot to give, give him first team action week in week out I can almost guarantee you he will be one of Scotland’s best wingers, and for sure an asset to the club, I believe the wee man should take a long hard look at a few of his younger boys, after all we are surly not just bringing young talent through to sell them on for poultry sums, so they can shine elsewhere and make some English club a thick wedge, no lets get a grip and take a long hard look at the talent we already have.

Smith if you were brought in to help the wee man, time to step up to the plate Mr scrooge McDuck The club has enough maradona’s without you joining the popstar ranks, get a grip and earn your keep.

We are Glasgow Rangers, we are good we can be great again. Its great being a bear.

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16 Aug 2011 05:04:28
david templeton is a celtic fan with no desire to join glasgow rangers FACT

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My uncle bob is a celtic fan tho wid still sign for gers.

T-Bear

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Aye ur right if gers offered him 200k a week he would hold out for celtic to offer 10k ..... ur a daft wee boy ... FACT

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D temp is also named after d cooper and one half of his family are gers and the other septic so i think he would play for us

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16 Aug 2011 02:17:33
Get greg wylde some first team action week in week out i can guarentee he will b 1 of scotlands best wingers since neil mccan

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He cant cross a ball

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He really cant cross a ball, im not overly convinced by him he has pace ill giv him that .... has LOADSA pace but thats pretty much it.

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Really you can guarantee that . If we sign Cristiano Ronaldo i guarantee u we will win the league heard he has a £1billion release clause maybe we should just try for him instead

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16 Aug 2011 01:17:43
at 250k matt mckay is a bargain and looks like he will do very well in the spl. If you dont believe me then check this out:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhZ6pY62zOc

I dont think that ally is trying NOT to spend money, rather he is trying to get more quality for the limited amount he has got.

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16 Aug 2011 00:33:55
Whoever wins the league this season will be the worst set of players 2 win league since mid 1980s both old firm teams are rank rotten with poor managers, any thts ed?

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Silly hibs fan. Go back te yer wee sad team and dream of better days.

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No celtics team now i better than strachans final league title

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He is 100% correct so dont say hibs fan just showing up as being non educated

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