Rangers Banter Archive November 15 2017

 

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15 Nov 2017 21:34:30
Hi guys brilliant site. I signed up a while back as I like reading the many views from many fans. First off thanks to the editors jeez you must read so much guff. Can I ask, which I get Scottish football is a slight back water, many have an opinion who the next manager should be. We've had McInnes, McLeish, gio and many others who do you think would be a good appointment? I appreciate if you would prefer not to answer. Thanks again brilliant site.



16 Nov 2017 02:10:50
Honestly mate the more I think about it the more I would like to see Murty get it to the end of the season just to see how it goes. I know he's not got the experience of the other suggestions but he's got the players on side. If looking at other options, McInnes is the obvious one but I would also love to see Van Bronckhorst but that seems like the long shot.



16 Nov 2017 09:44:11
Tony Pulis?



16 Nov 2017 15:44:41
No thanks Scotty123



15 Nov 2017 18:32:25
I think Mcinnis is a good manager and if he was to take over rangers only time would tell if he was successful but in Murty we have a guy that’s already there and has trust with the players. this time and the last he got the best out of them which the two previous managers couldn’t and with one of those games being a well deserved draw with Celtic and that was also with only having a few weeks of putting his ideas over to the team plus on top of that working with a director of football probably wouldn’t be a problem. if you ask me the answer to our problems is already there



15 Nov 2017 19:10:56
what is murty, s win ratio



15 Nov 2017 19:20:09
If Murty got the job, as soon as we went on a bad run the fans would turn on him and the board saying we lacked ambition etc . For that reason he’s not the man. We need an experienced manager .



15 Nov 2017 19:43:39
5 wins 1 draw and 2 losses with a 62.5 percent win ratio. hopefully that’ll increase after the next match and with more time with getting his ideas across I think will only improve



15 Nov 2017 21:05:09
Maybe it’s a good coach we need, maybe not a manager as such. We have a DOF who should have the contacts in regards to players. New scouting network etc.

A coach runs the teams then works with the dof in regards to players / targets / playing style to bring in suitable players. A manager will want the budget, his own men, own players maybe from previous teams / contacts.

Why have a dof and a scouting system if manager doesn’t fancy or over rules.



15 Nov 2017 21:18:53
Djab. you can’t say he’s not the man based on if this or if that plus any manager regardless of who it is would get a hard time if he got it wrong but also unlike yourself I’m stating this on my opinion as oppose to you saying he’s not the man because this might happen or that might happen



15 Nov 2017 14:40:02
honestly don't know why people are against a good rangers man in mcinnes .
he came into that job and done a wonderfull job of getting more from what he had and also he can spot tallent that's good enough for the spl
i think he himself would become a better manager with our great club and take us further than any of us thought he could .

plus he is good with the media and good rapor with ex and current players.



15 Nov 2017 15:09:02
Think most sensible people know that
Tommy



15 Nov 2017 17:16:42
Sorry lads but I don’t agree he will take us anywhere near them . we need a proven manger that has won titles, cups etc . mcinnes is a just an easy option. for the the budget the sheep had when we weren’t in the league he should ahve finished second



15 Nov 2017 17:27:43
He had a very small budget, so your talking nonsense, before you mention Europe, that is the players fault, he can only prepare them, if they're not fit or savvy enough then he can't do much with them, with Rangers he will. although the also like Graeme Murty a lot, think they could be a great team, no Coleman, oniel, pardee, allardyce, etc, hopeless at club football,



15 Nov 2017 17:42:54
Tommy it’s u that’s talking nonsense mate. we are a big club we need a big manger and mcinnes isn’t one . never won a league, lost 2 cups finals last year. u mention Europe and that’s the players fault is it? For not being fit or savvy? . Now that’s nonsense



15 Nov 2017 18:07:33
Is it? Walter smith wasn't a big manager, neither was Alex Ferguson, neither was bob paisley, neither was mourinho, nor guardiola, nor Jim McLean nor big Eck, nor Lennon, nor Joe Fagan, all won titles with major clubs or on small budget, like McLean, and according to you, player who isn't performed properly is the manager fault? Tell me everything a manager can do when players don't perform? Many manager has lost his job because players don't care, they still got paid, you obviously think a " big manager" is going to come to Scotland, Brenda came here to take advantage of Rangers situation, enhance his reputation and make a fortune, tell us what is a" big manager?
Tommy



15 Nov 2017 18:08:55
I think Mcinnis is a good manager and if he was to take over rangers only time would tell if he was successful but in Murty we have a guy that’s already there and has trust with the players. this time and the last he got the best out of them which the two previous managers couldn’t and with one of those games being a well deserved draw with Celtic and that was also with only having a few weeks of putting his ideas over to the team plus on top of that working with a director of football probably wouldn’t be a problem. if you ask me the answer to our problems is already there



15 Nov 2017 18:25:52
It’s not mcinnes I’ll tell u that

So u telling me if we do appoint mcinnes and we don’t win anything in the first year then it’s the players fault not Mcinnes? .

A big manger is someone when wins things regardless of the budget. who gets everything out of the players season apon season. and has won things when the season ends

We as a club are looking to close the gap on them we
won’t do that with mcinnes

U tell me what’s so special about mcinnes that he deserves the gers job?



15 Nov 2017 18:27:51
Tommy- sorry but your point is mute. All other managers you mentioned, won the title. Mcinnes hasn’t! For me
He shouldn’t be the manager because he isn’t the caliber needed! Considering that us/ hearts and hibs all went down in recent years, it would have been criminal if Aberdeen did not finish second repeatedly. Outside of the 2 Capital clubs only Aberdeen can compete in regards to budget/ fanbase so if you were young/ Scottish and wanted to at least be challenging for something in the last 3 years, Aberdeen was the only option outside of Celtic and yet they failed to produce anything. I’m sorry but Mcinnes isn’t a winning manager and that is what we need. Bringing Sir Fergie into that comment was just daft. Not a big manager!? Also- Brenda joined Celtic because he was a boyhood fan and although I despise them, he’s worked magic so you can’t really knock him. He almost (and should have) taken Liverpool to their first title in years and was outstanding at Swansea. You clearly like Mcinnes because he’s an ex player of ours and would be “safe hands”. But I’d rather see a winning manager with a proven record come in.



15 Nov 2017 18:39:05
It’s not mc innes I’ll tell u that

A big manger is someone who gets the best out of the players season apon season regardless of the budget he just does it end of and he produces titles and cups mcinnes won’t do that for us

I’d rather we just left murty in charge rather than go mcinnes it’s just my opinion tommy

(I’m starting to think your tommy his no2 😂)



15 Nov 2017 22:44:30
Tommy

I’m with you mate. Mcinnes has done a good apprenticeship and done reasonably well at Aberdeen.

He knows the club and was at our club when we were a fantastic club. He is Scottish and knows what it’s all about. Something I think we need. Someone to get a bit of pride back and get the club moving on the right track.

I hope the board have the money to make it happen but the delay in appointing a new manager worries me and I am rapidly losing my confidence in them.

Fingers crossed Tommy they do the right thing



15 Nov 2017 23:21:39
Come aff the glue. Rangers are a massive club in name, size and support. Unfortunately we r not a big draw for a big manager at this time in our history . We don't have the money to pay him and we don't have the budget. u all really need to get real. McInnes is the stand out candidate at the price and he woukd work within our budget.



15 Nov 2017 23:30:18
JCGERS. . you want a big manager who has won things noo you want Murty. he's won hee haw!



16 Nov 2017 08:27:39
Let's all be honest. Currently, where realistically is our squad - a comfortable 2nd place.

A good manager, even with a limited budget, should be able to put some pressure on celtic, win the games we should win, and punch above our weight as an underdog.

Unfortunately, I think unless there is another 10m investment in the summer, we'll be behind them again no matter the managers being touted.

Therefore, the pressure of expectation will inevitably be on the new man, so it needs to be someone who understands and can handle reality vs expectation.

We need to get a consistency of performance that allows us to put pressure on celtic firstly.



16 Nov 2017 12:35:27
You do realise I was talking about them being" big manager" before they got their job and started to win things don't you,? Would you have done without Walter? Unbelievable
Tommy



16 Nov 2017 13:27:18
Mols your opion becomes null and void mate when u say your a comfortable 2nd. You have never been there your not even aa comfortable 3rd lol.



15 Nov 2017 11:00:41
Van bronkhurst would be the choice for me. A winner as a player and looks as if he is going to be a great manager as well.



15 Nov 2017 11:21:53
Been saying that for weeks gio for me



15 Nov 2017 14:33:22
we could never afford him plu after a great start he now sits 6th in the league which is terrible for a league with that quality



15 Nov 2017 16:47:11
And Derek McInnes sits 2nd, as he has done for sometime, he could not be expected to best septic, he will with Rangers, I have no doubt, he is destined for the kings throne and should have been back long ago
Tommy



15 Nov 2017 17:27:05
Sorry tommy mate but I just can’t see it . big club like ours need a big manger and mcinnes just isn’t one I’m afraid



15 Nov 2017 19:35:14
we can afford gio.

just give him an EBT haha



15 Nov 2017 21:06:53
Tommy, the reason a lot of fans don't want McInnes as manager is because his teams always get pumped off of Celtic. Its never even close! I didn't want the entire game the last time Celtic played up there but I did see the first 10 mins and tbh it could have been 5 nil by that point. Number 1 priority when your team isn't as good as the opponents is to make your teak hard to beat. MW and PC couldn't do it and neither can DM.



15 Nov 2017 23:26:08
McInnes and his Aberdeen team have been poor against Celtic. have u watched our games against Celtic. they pumped us at Ibrox the last time. Sir Alex couldnae work with our squad or budget. we need a big manager? . I want a big present for Christmas but i will prob get socks. get real



15 Nov 2017 08:33:06
I think Chris Coleman would be a great manager for the gers.



15 Nov 2017 09:12:39
Cruz just you leave the thinking to the sensible folk. Coleman is not the answer as we don't have bale to rely on



15 Nov 2017 09:35:51
Are you his agent cruz because you've said his name enough times in the last couple of hours, personally I don't think he's the answer either, because as god rightly says we don't have a Gareth Bale in our team



15 Nov 2017 13:11:49
I'd take Coleman every day of the week before mcinnes



15 Nov 2017 15:50:33
Why is that? Has he been a successful club manager somewhere I don't know about? Sad that some"Rangers fans" don't want a true blue who has been successful to the best of his clubs abilities, Derek is a real Gers man
Tommy



15 Nov 2017 16:47:43
Why? Ridiculous
Tommy



15 Nov 2017 18:30:54
How is he? Just because he played for us doesn’t make him a true blue. He’s been managing the sheep for years without us, without hibs/ without hearts. Still accomplishing nothing! Sorry but a higher caliber is needed. McCoist was a true blue nose as well, so was McCall. Look how well that served us



16 Nov 2017 12:47:58
What makes you think McInnes isn't a true Gers fan, ? I can assure you he is a Rangers man through and through you suggested I called him true blue because he played for us, well he would have been at Ibrox even if he didn't. He is a real Rangers man and should be the next manager
Tommy



16 Nov 2017 20:58:52
man, should be at rangers because he is true blue. he should be at ibrox because hd is a top class manager. being supporter or ex player means nothing. mccoist managed for a period witbout salary he is trje blue but didn't make him a better manager. souness wasnt trueblue beforehe joined us, advocat wasnt. in fact where was smith before joining us. indeed if smith hadnt announced at christmas he was leaving we likely would have had 10 in a row. we need a manager because he is a good manager. i don't care what religion, colour or race he is as long as he can get the team winning



17 Nov 2017 10:25:40
I do realise that being a rangers man 👨 doesn't mean you get the job, I am saying his heart and soul would be put into making rangers great again, beware of what you wish for, for me it's either Derek or wright
Tommy



15 Nov 2017 08:17:36
For me we're getting it all wrong here. We don't need a manager. we need a coach. We have a director of football in place who takes away a lot of the responsibilities and duties of an old style football manager leaving the football side of things solely to the coach. I think we have the perfect coach right under our noses in Murty. Give the guy the gig to the end of the season. With the right scouting dept and the proper back-up team now in place also i think he could do a great job.



15 Nov 2017 10:39:38
I agree bigjohn, I would be happy to see how things go over the next 6 weeks. If we are sitting 2nd with good results against Aberdeen then i’d give Murty a 1 year rolling contract. It’s early days but his instructions to the players have made them get the results, I expect another 2 wins to follow before the Aberdeen games then we will see where we are at.

One worry I have is that whoever gets the managers job should have the final say on any transfers IMO. The director of football should be overseeing scouting, youth development and to an extent transfers but I don’t want a situation whereby the coach is there to coach what he’s given every summer like what happens at some Prem/ European clubs.



15 Nov 2017 13:24:49
Agreed wee bear. The manager must identify the players he wants then it is up to the director of football to broker the deal.

Murty is intelligent, speaks very well, we know he's a good coach and most importantly he has the respect and backing of the players. No brainer for me!



15 Nov 2017 16:12:47
I wouldn't get carried away and say the next 2 games are gimmies because that's when you usually get bit on the archie



16 Nov 2017 21:01:33
is that not the job of scouts, the manager idendifies areas to improve, the scouts find them and dof signs them or am i stupid, don't answer that.



15 Nov 2017 07:42:27
Get Chris Coleman in.



15 Nov 2017 07:40:55
Chris Coleman would be a good choice
Would love to see him with the best club in the world.



15 Nov 2017 10:17:22
Celtic aren't looking for a manager atm



15 Nov 2017 15:51:58
Septic are a long way from being that, a long long way,
Tommy



15 Nov 2017 01:09:24
Murty for me. Has intelligence, man management and great potential.

Would much rather have Graeme for free than pay compensation to anyone. Also, I am not too impressed with the records of any of the bookies favourites.



15 Nov 2017 04:36:42
Got w feeling that it's between McInnes and O'Neil! As for the Compensation Fee for McInnes, it's maybe that we are just going through negotiations over Payments! It may be that the Club coming in for him have to Pay the 800k up front BUT we want staggered Payments? Definitely think that this is the reason and out of the two its McInnes I'd go for.



15 Nov 2017 07:36:55
Don't see why paying compensation is a problem, we pay a whole lot more for some pretty average players.



 
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