Rangers Banter Archive July 15 2020

15 Jul 2020 22:47:45
Is it just me? Zungu scored 2 in 52 league appearances. I thought we needed an attacking midfielder capable of scoring goals that’s what we have been lacking. Oh well have to wait and see I guess, fingers crossed.

15 Jul 2020 23:59:57
It was a hard defensive midfielder i was led to believe we were needing to sign the Muppet and that's what zungu is. He's strong and physical.

16 Jul 2020 02:23:31
SGL if it was rumoured that we were going to sign an attacking midfielder, some on here would say we need a defensive midfielder just to be contrary. I posted elsewhere that most fans agreed we need a more physical presence in the middle of the park and that's what we're going after. This lad is tall, strong, physical, energetic, likes a tackle and can find a pass, and if the C.V. crisis helps reduce the price, even better mate.

16 Jul 2020 06:37:01
I'm sure you've read my post on here regarding the defensive midfielder i would have wanted us to sign the covenanter? It was tapia who's a free agent after leaving feyenoord mate.
But of course if it is to be zungu that gerrard has earmarked for that role in our team, then without a doubt i'll trust his judgement! 👌.

16 Jul 2020 06:42:22
The covenanter, what's your take on the wingers we've been currently linked to mate! Guys like skov olsen, diangana, crysencio summerville etc? I would hope here that we sign skov olsen from these 3.Having said that all 3 wingers look really good and any of the 3 would undoubtedly improve our starting 11!👍.

16 Jul 2020 06:42:48
Wee signed hagi he's attacking midfielder and imo i think centre half on loan probs to cover katic and a proper right sided pleyer way better than ojo and possibly 3rd striker i would be happy with that.

16 Jul 2020 07:46:46
We lack the ability to break down defences there is no denying that. For that we need creative midfielders capable of killer passes and an eye for goal. Zunga is missing the latter part. At the same time I agree we need more steel in the middle of the park.

16 Jul 2020 08:16:31
Hagi not an attacking midfielder muppet?

16 Jul 2020 09:11:25
Well if Zungu is the presence we need in there and has the attributes that yous guys say that will do me. The attacking midfielder is hadji, I don’t see him as a winger at all.

16 Jul 2020 13:23:47
I really like the look of Zungu, I think his will energy give aribo and hagi more breathing room to create upfront, and his passing accuracy and range will benefit the wide players etc too, I’d be delighted if we signed him 👍.

16 Jul 2020 13:25:15
agree with sg loyal, hagis is the cam we need.

15 Jul 2020 19:39:30
I saw a woman running around naked today on the motorway I shouted wtf that's terrible at least put a pair of socks on.

15 Jul 2020 13:43:42
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Tactics: Part 1 - The 4-4-2

16 Jul 2020 08:31:44
Very good read 👍🏻.

{Ed001's Note - thanks SHUG. I wasn't sure if anyone would be interested, normally all the articles I do are requested.}

15 Jul 2020 11:11:38
Currently i think our best Starting XI available is:

McGregor
Tavernier
Goldson
Helander
Barisic

Jack
Aribo

Jones
Hagi
Kent

Morelos

all players fit and healthy then Katic comes back in for Helander, outside of that our first XI isn't the problem in my opinion. The squad isn't strong enough to compete on all fronts for the duration of a season. Yes we have back up in every area but of those who is actually good enough? Davis, Arfield, Defoe is about it for me, obviously there is young boys in there like Patterson and Bassey whom will hopefully be good players but are unproven.

15 Jul 2020 11:48:49
I agree apart from Aribo, He was dropped from the left midfield position as he was finding it difficult to take on the tactical information. Gerrard/ Beale put him further forward which clashes with the better players in the line up. Aribo is a conundrum for me. He needs to work on his ball winning, tackling and heading, for a big lad I've never seen him win a second ball header. Hopefully he can kick on the season and make that left mid position his to loose. I would like us to play more like in the Braga away game, very disciplined, organised and lethal on the break. If we continue with gunghoe tactics against the SPL diddies we will have more silly goals conceded in the 10th and 80th minutes and points dropped.

15 Jul 2020 11:49:49
Arfield in the middle for me. Not convinced by Aribo.

15 Jul 2020 12:46:26
Need 4 signings to this group or its not even a close 2nd its a distance 2nd.

15 Jul 2020 13:01:47
We won’t place a 4231 formation we will play a 433.

15 Jul 2020 13:04:21
I wouldn’t have Jones in my team other than pace I don’t think he offers much. in domestic games we are constantly playing against 10 at the back and one player sitting at the half way line. Players like Arfield, Davis Kamara and Aribo are fat better than Jones just on the ability to pass and chip in the odd goal. Unfortunately the days of the flying winger to cross the ball to the lumbering forward are done until teams start coming out. That’s why in Europe players like Middleton Jones even Ojo ( on the odd occasion ) actually worked as we played teams who attacked. Other than that I would agree that it’s probably our best 11. Kent differs from Jones as he doesn’t actually run up the wing he prefers to showboat and come inside allowing barisic to move upfield and put the ball in and not just to the forward as he has the ability to pick out a player. But that’s my opinion and I’m not the manager ha ha.

15 Jul 2020 13:13:39
Comes back in? Makes too many mistakes and always gets dropped. The Fridge looks like the best bet.

15 Jul 2020 13:17:08
Living on a mystery planet where Jones is in our best 11.
Barely played at all last seaon and would be way down the list for me.

15 Jul 2020 13:27:25
Would rather throw in an unproven player at RB, seen quite enough.

15 Jul 2020 13:35:58
Jones wouldn't be near the rangers starting 11 for me. I agree with DOIGER, that scotty arfield would always be in my starting 11.Arfield makes very clever runs and always working extremely hard without the ball and always looking to time/ make those terrific runs beyond our striker. Steven davis will have his games chosen carefully for him, by gerrard. I think davo will be kept fresh for our so called bigger games! Jermain defoe i honestly think will be very important making a scoring impact, coming from the bench in most league games.

15 Jul 2020 13:36:24
Aribo out Arfield in. Need a RB CM RW/ RF and a TM. All must be established first team starters ideally with leadership qualities. 👍.

15 Jul 2020 13:38:26
Jones is no good and aribo still has a lot to prove for me, we need to sign 4 players that improve our starting 11, a CB, CDM RW and CF we don’t need any more squad players we need guys that with make current starters into squad players!

15 Jul 2020 13:46:57
Would have murphy in the lineup instead of jones.
Need a big dominating CM and RB and RW.
Aribo hasn't settled properly but the goal he scored for against brasil was awesome.
How many players have celtic signed
That take a couple of seasons before
They start to really produce.
Biggest issue for rangers is not. blooding the youngsters enough.

15 Jul 2020 13:56:33
Looking at last season we conceded the same as Celtic and our strikers totalled about the same number of goals. Regular goals from midfield is the difference. Kent got 7 last year, could def push for many more, hopefully Hagi playing central can bring some in, airfield chips in too.

A proven rw who will get 10+ goals is most important signing needed this summer for me.

15 Jul 2020 15:46:54
I wouldn't have Jones anywhere near the team and while I would love Aribo to prove me wrong I reckon he is currently no more than a squad player. What worries me is that along with the new lad from Leicester this is probably our best players but we still don't have a proper holding midfield player with true quality at the club to sit alongside Jack and we don't have a right sided attacking midfield player unless we move Kent to that role in which case we need a left sided player. We have no cover at right back, in midfield Davis is in the twilight of his career and Kamara is as timid as a mouse and from an attacking perspective we only have Defoe as cover, Arfield as an option in midfield and that is about it. It simply emphasises the need for at least a quality holding midfield player, a quality striker and a quality attacking midfield player already to walk into the starting eleven plus a quality right back even if it is as backup. A squad and a first sixteen or seventeen is going to be fundamental next season given the way the games are likely to be played!

15 Jul 2020 16:46:42
Murphy over Jones with jones coming on the last 20 with his blistering pace.

15 Jul 2020 20:17:28
Attacking 3-5-2 for me with the central CB advancing into Def Mid when in possession.

McGregor

Goldson Edmundson Helander

Tavernier Arfield Davis Jack Barasic

Morelos Cosgrove

That’s leaves us a bit light in defence but plenty of options in midfield with McCrorie, Doherty, Kent, Aribo, Hagi etc to bring into the fold when required. Maybe sacrifice Arfield for Hagi when a team is camped in. I would also bring in Dykes to compete with Defoe for a starting position.

15 Jul 2020 22:58:01
Kent and hagi on the bench? Wow zikos just wow👍.

15 Jul 2020 23:00:50
zikos - you would have 14 million pounds worth of players on the bench in Haji, Kent and Aribo.

16 Jul 2020 08:30:31
Definitely Kent in the bench, he flatters today deceive tbh. Over a season contributes very little. Not a single assist from a winger/ forward - Actually quite unbelievable.

Hagi I would certainly play more, but in a 3-5-2, he would play as the most forward of the 3 central midfielders or as a deep lying forward. As I said for teams camped in their own half, I would replace Arfield with Hagi for that bit more creativity.

Personally the price tag shouldn’t guarantee then a place in the starting 11.

16 Jul 2020 11:54:32
There are arguments for Murphy instead of Jones for sure, i just think he was injured most of the season and if we can get him playing the way he was at killie coming in off the side he will cause teams a lot of trouble, same way Kent does it.

As for Aribo who seems to be a hit or a miss within the fan base, give him time to settle in and he will be our best player by a long way in my opinion. He has came from Charlton with a manager who clearly has no ambitions for any of his players as he said he would be better going to another championship team than come to Rangers and is currently trying to steer Lyle Taylor away from Scotland also, he was coming onto a game at the tail end of the season and i think we will get a massive season out of him.

KJA9.a 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 are effectively the same formation, we will have 2 midfielders (Jack and Aribo for me) who will take the ball from the back and find out impact players, then Hagi will play a lot further forward to link with the striker, that's assuming SG doesn't stick him out on the right hand side again.

15 Jul 2020 10:34:47
Big seasons ahead for several players imo.

Tav needs to prove he can lead a team.
Goldson hasn't been anywhere near consistent enough past few seasons.

Aribo, Kent and kamara all found wanting last season.

Davis bottled the challenge 2nd half of the season when he should've been the player grabbing the games by the scuff of the neck.

Defoe looks done but should still manage 15 goals in this league.

15 Jul 2020 10:48:12
If Tavernier was up to the job he would have proved it by now. Goldson is always prone to mistakes but also agree it’s time Kent and Aribo showed more consistency. Was hoping to see Kamara sold.

15 Jul 2020 10:57:26
A new striker needed.

15 Jul 2020 10:57:28
For me Tav has had his chance to show this. Now been at the club for 5 years now and has proven time again to not have that winning mentality we need.
Goldson i think deserves another season, has shown in glimpsed the quality he has however i do still think he's a bit soft so needs to improve if we are to win anything.
Aribo looked to improve as season went on, think he could be more regular in the side now he may be settled a bit more, got to remember he's still a young lad.
Kent the go to boo boy. One of our top players however the weight of our whole side on his shoulders at times when morelos form dipped proved too much. Hopefully he can be back flying this year i'm confident he will be.
Kamara isn't good enough to win titles imo. If we could get a few mil for him as suggested i'd move him on.
Davis still shows his quality but two shocking second half of seasons. Has his legs gone? i'm not sure. Notably when the pitches became shocking in second half of the season he looks half the player. Think he should be a bit more a squad player this year.
Defoe signing baffles me, looks decent enough at home against poor opposition but other than a few goals offers the side nothing. His wages could have been much better spent elsewhere in my opinion.

15 Jul 2020 11:02:38
Sweep1, totally disagree with you strongly regarding stevie davis and jermain defoe! What are you honestly consuming pal? 🤔Steven davis far from done, although i do think that given his age, gerrard should/ will pick and choose when davo should start games, ie. probably the bigger games, i'd imagine. Davo was terrific for us in the first half of last season and got a bad injury at pittodrie, where he was kicked up and down! He never recovered from that injury and THAT'S WHY davis's form dipped, nothing to do with him being finished! Jermain defoe will be very important for us again this season,
with his contribution of regular goals, from the bench. He's as fit as anyone, with a physique like a guy 10 years his junior! Defoe's goals will be very important for us and is easily the best goalscorer/ finisher at rangers.

15 Jul 2020 11:03:17
Yeah would like to see kamara replaced biff was awful last season.

15 Jul 2020 11:05:33
Yes Biff. Sell Goldson and Kamara. This is a big season coming up. We need Big performances.

15 Jul 2020 11:26:57
Agree with the poster that says Tav has had long enough to prove he has a winning mentality. He clearly doesn't have it and never will.

This season of all seasons, we 100% require someone who is absolutely determined to win to lead us on the field or we can forget it.

15 Jul 2020 12:03:12
Tav is nowhere near good enough and has had 5 seasons to prove otherwise, Goldson can be very good but also very rubbish. He needs to just stick to do the basics well.
Davis for me hasn't the legs to go box to box anymore and should be deployed as a DM at all times. Just split the 2 CH when we attack make them almost a 3, it is a position that requires very little running and he could do it in his sleep, this would also give the other 2 CM the freedom to go box to box.
Defoe, at Ibrox when teams are camped in, no worries but away from home, not ideal unless it's in a 2.
I feel we need to change shape slightly or we need a new RB and CH.
I feel we'd do better with a 3-5-2 or a 4-2-3-1.
But what do I know.

15 Jul 2020 12:37:59
Must be you smoking something or just can't read steven Gerrard loyal, I said Davis bottled it last season not finished, Defoe is done if he wasn't he wouldn't be playing in the SPL FACT.

15 Jul 2020 13:20:43
If Defoe was done Sweep1, he wouldn't be playing at all.
So as per usual you are talking absolute nonsense and stating an opinion not a fact.

15 Jul 2020 13:45:07
Sweep1,how many goals did defoe score for rangers, mostly as a sub,
do you actually know? 🤔Its very impressive and proves that defoe is important and contributes by making a big impact! I don't know what goes through your mind, mr negative!

15 Jul 2020 14:42:03
So haji and Steven Gerrard loyal, are you both saying he would be at Rangers if he wasn't at the end of his career?

15 Jul 2020 15:32:27
Steven Davis was injured up in Pittodrie in December when the ref allowed Aberdeen to kick us off the park. He was out for most of the second part of the season.

Defoe needs someone close to him to get the best out of him. SG put Scotty Arfield beside him and they were excellent at the tail end of the previous season. He still scored enough as second striker last season to suggest he will be an important part of the squad.

Also hope Tav rams it right up all of his doubters.

15 Jul 2020 16:02:45
Tav is in the final year of his contract so for me we need to decide does he merit an extension or do we hope to cash in. I don't believe that he is a Leader but then I don't believe that we have a true leader at the Cub right now. (Davis, yes if he was younger but not now) .
Goldson makes too many mistakes for me but when you look at our stats we didn't lose a lot of goals and a lot of the problem lies in midfield and a lack of goals at the other end.
Aribo, and Kent have the ability and I would hope that they come good this season. Some players take longer than others to settle in, hopefully this is their season.
Kamara I would try and sell. He is a decent football player but he has the heart of a mouse! We need midfield players that can look after themselves and he goes missing far too often.

Davis got battered against Aberdeen last season and never recovered. We need a Holding midfield player that controls midfield, that can look after himself and his colleagues and doesn't get intimidated by guys like Brown. If there is one position in the team where we need a leader and a winner that is it. I personally don't seee Davis being any more than backup.

Defoe lcan only go on for so long and although we are fortunate that he is of a quality that will score goals, we can't be relying on him to replace Morellos if he is out for a few games. We must sign a quality striker, two if we loose Morelos.

15 Jul 2020 16:02:53
That's not the point Sweep1.
You said he was "done" which implies he's finished and yet he's still good enough to score 21 in 37.
So you are talking absolute nonsense.
When he stops scoring then he will be "done".

15 Jul 2020 16:35:48
Some of u guys have short memories and need a reality check when it comes to the market we are in. Tav has been the best RB in the country for a good few years and his assists are invaluable, could we replace him and have the same assist return? Kamara was the best 50k we have ever spent and After a dip in form/ confidence we should get shot of him? Sell Goldson who is arguably our best CB when we have lost Katic to injury? Defoe and Davie legs have gone? That’s hilarious . Who are we replacing these guys with and how much would it cost to replace them?

15 Jul 2020 16:47:33
If Katic was fit i'd go 3-5-2.

15 Jul 2020 17:15:47
Berkshire tave contracted to 5/ 22.

15 Jul 2020 17:18:16
Correct Hagi7!Sweep we're talking about defoe playing in scottish football here and that's my whole point! Honestly mate and no offence intended here sweep1,but are you for real? 🤔 Do you not grasp what we're saying/ meaning regarding what defoe is capable of STILL, in scottish football? 🤔.

15 Jul 2020 07:44:45
Alright guy's,
I have heard about this virtual season ticket thing.
How does it work? Do i get access to RTV because i'm a season ticket holder?
Do you have to be a Mygers member?

I really want to watch the friendly games so i could use some information!

Cheers in advance.

15 Jul 2020 09:43:38
Season ticket will be all you need and we will be given access when we login with rangers number etc.

15 Jul 2020 09:48:43
Yogibear1972, you can also watch all our 4 friendly games on premier sports mate! But don't tell John25, he doesn't know this pal! 🤫🤫😂😂.

15 Jul 2020 10:06:23
The two games in France are only on premier sports, you won’t get them on RTV as a season ticket holder, however you do get the games against Motherwell and Coventry (which also happen to be on premier sports as well I believe) . I imagine this is because the french have the rights to the games against Lyon and Nice,

15 Jul 2020 10:19:19
SGL u think u r a smart se. Remember u watched tapia tear us apart in holland.

15 Jul 2020 11:03:50
Lighten up John25, only a wee laff pal! 🎣🎣🎣🎣.

15 Jul 2020 18:56:35
SGL u laught at others then don’t like it when u r on receiving end.